View Full Version : Troy overrated?!?

08-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Anyone agree with this? Click link for the top 10 NFL overrated players and why.

08-27-2012, 05:09 PM
It's Fox Sports. I'm not gonna read it.

08-27-2012, 05:42 PM
I wouldn't call Troy overrated but he does get exposed in some areas
#1: he whiffs on a lot of open field tackles.
#2: he's not the greatest Cover guy in the world.

BUT having said that, you gotta take the GOOD with the BAD and the Good by far outweighs the Bad. Therefore I wouldn't call him overrated.

08-27-2012, 06:09 PM
Anyone that's ever seen Troy play live could never call the guy overrated.

I've never seen a football player do what he can do. He covers more ground than anyone in the history of the game. I've never seen a guy line up 20+ yards down field and end up making a play in the backfield. His football speed and instincts are ridonculous. And you don't see it on tv.

Add in he's a freakish athlete that can often make himself unblockable. He can time a snap count unlike anyone I've ever seen. And he can run down a play from the backside when he shouldn't even have made it to the backfield.

And many of the times he gets knocked for not being a form tackler, he's making an attempt at a play that no other player would likely be within 5 yards of making.

He's not the best coverage safety. But he is also our strong safety. And while he isn't the best cover guy, I've seen him take Antonio Gates and TO out of games when they were at their peak. How many guys can do that?

And like on the plays where he doesn't form tackle, on many of the plays he gets beat in coverage, he probably wouldn't be in the picture on those plays. So he gets knocked again for his uber athleticism and instincts.

Other than when he's played through some nagging injury, I've only seen Troy taken to school on the football field. And it was Drew Brees that outsmarted him a few years back. I'd really only say that NO game was subpar. Brees got him. And to his credit, kudos to Brees. He's a great QB.

I'd actually argue Troy P is underrated. He should have more DMVP awards on his mantle. When healthy, he has very few equals in the history of the game.

08-27-2012, 06:33 PM
The Fox Article also doesn't take into account that (from what I'm seeing and understanding) a number of his "play making" opportunities have been shifted to Timmons. I believe that was the plan all along, by the Steelers to give the younger guy a chance to dominate and take some of the wear and tear off of Troy.

I'm sorry but when I see an "over rated" list that doesn't include Ray Lewis -- I tend to think the Writer and I are watching a different game.


Captain Lemming
08-28-2012, 11:58 AM
Overrated!!!! No WAY.

Dudes hair has no peer in this league.

Heck that is like calling Keisels beard "overrated".

Frankly, I sometimes fear that they are on some kind of "follicle enhancing drugs" that will get them bounced from the league.

Troy WE KNOW it aint just "Head and Shoulders" that gave you that mane.

We know the commish hates Steelers, so stop the drugs before he singles you out

Captain Lemming
08-28-2012, 12:13 PM
#2: he's not the greatest Cover guy in the world.

I believe that Troy occasionally guesses wrong, which puts him far from a play. Then his amazing recovery speed allows him to get close enough to be the closest guy to a big reception. It "looks" like he couldnt cover the guy but a typical player would not be in the picture.

If Troy did not take risks, his ability to cover would never be questioned.

But he would make fewer highlight plays too.

Like you said "good with the bad."

But I dont think receivers "beat" him nearly as much as it seems.

THAT SAID, the article is right that Troy is not CURRENTLY the same player he was a few years ago.

About three years ago he got hurt early in the season. He played OUT OF HIS MIND that game before getting hurt. I dont see THAT guy anymore.

08-28-2012, 01:30 PM
His tackling could be better. I haven't seen Troy make any one-handed-behind-the-back tackles in a few years.

08-28-2012, 01:53 PM
Calling Polamalu overrated is like calling Barry Sanders overrated because he had a tendency to get tackled behind the line of scrimmage at times. Both players have their plusses and minuses, sure...but the plusses for both of these guys are absolutely MAGICAL.

08-28-2012, 07:08 PM
I think TP playing hurt makes him seem overrated; he was no where near right in the play off run and SB loss vs. GB. He was playing on one leg. They picked on him all game. So, if you are basing some of his play during the stints where he is playing hurt, he appears overrated. But healthy? He isn't overrated. Just look at the D and team with him vs. without. They barely have a winning record when he's not playing. The D goes from #1 to ordinary at best when he is missing.

08-28-2012, 07:19 PM
During televised games, they should draw circles around defenders that show how much field they can cover pre snap. Troy's circle would be way bigger than anyone else's. And it would be clear he's underrated.

Eddie Spaghetti
08-28-2012, 08:55 PM
color me concerned.

09-02-2012, 04:46 PM
Polamalu enters season ‘safety centered’

By Alan Robinson
Published: Sunday, September 2, 2012

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Steelers strong saftey Troy Polamalu during practice at St. Vincent College July 31, 2012

Troy Polamalu remembers when he could rely upon his exquisite timing to vault the offensive line and propel himself into the backfield, disrupting a play even before it started. Nobody else in the NFL could do it.

Or when he made plays so instinctively and athletic — such as his improbable, one-handed interception on a snowy field against Philip Rivers of the Chargers — that it required multiple replay reviews to determine how he possibly made them.

Those were the days for the player of a generation. These days, Polamalu is out to prove it’s not a generation that’s passed.

“I’ve been hiding a lot of my faults,” he says, laughing.

Once a super athlete whose ability to play half the positions on defense made him a game plan nightmare for offensive coordinators, Polamalu — at age 31 — is as apt to rely on his nine-plus seasons of experience as he is his unnatural instincts. He’s also become more of a true safety than a defender who regularly makes can-you-believe-it’s-true plays.

And when he films those Head & Shoulders ads that, according to Procter & Gamble, boosted sales 10 percent among the young adult target group, he must tint some of his gray hair. He’s also more fastidious about his offseason eating, dieting earlier in advance of training camp this year than before.

It’s not as if Polamalu is being ravaged by time; it’s just that a player for the ages has to be conscious of his age. He also appears intent on improving upon a 2011 season in which the Steelers were No. 1 defensively and he made the All-Pro team, but his interceptions dropped to two from seven the season before.

“I think he likes people saying he’s lost a step or that he’s injured too much,” fellow safety Ryan Clark said. “Troy isn’t Troy until the lights go on.”

A Fox Sports analysis recently referred to Polamalu’s 2011 season as being “average” and called him one of the NFL’s top 10 overrated players, but NFL Network analyst Jamie Dukes disagrees. He ranks Polamalu as the second-best safety behind Eric Berry of Kansas City.

However, Dukes said, “More teams are finding a way to put him in space, and that’s the only real chink in his armor ... you can negate him.”

Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau appears to be taking a less-is-more approach with Polamalu to utilize his strengths and prevent him from getting too overloaded with responsibilities, thus avoiding that negation factor.

“My role in the defense has changed quite a bit,” Polamalu said. “I was playing five different positions. Am I playing nickel? Am I playing dime? Am I playing safety? It was like, ‘We want to attack Troy when he’s in that position, but he might not be in that position.’ ”

Polamalu is becoming, in his words, more “safety-centered” and less likely to be an inside linebacker on one play, a nickel back the next and a blitzing cornerback the play after that.

“It’s changed quite a bit in that way, and with time it’s changed even more,” Polamalu said. “There’s always a possibility of playing dime, nickel, and I played quite a bit of it last year. But it was more like, ‘All right, guys, we’ve got to put this in in the middle of the game.’ Which is nice for coach LeBeau to be able to go there because I have that experience. It’s lessened my role in the whole scheme of things.”

When he shifts positions, Polamalu said, it’s not just to give the offense a different look but to — in his words — “calibrate our eyes” so everyone on the defense understands what is going on at every level.

“Sometimes when you’re just down, down, down in the box and reading tight ends and in the slot playing man-to-man the entire game, you get into deep pass ... and you see the game differently,” he said. “What’s tough about the position is over half the game I’m playing man-to-man on a receiver, and the other third or quarter I’m playing in the box, and the other one I’m playing deep pass.”

So it’s not as if Polamalu has gone from being an every-day position player to the football equivalent of a designated hitter.

“I think Troy’s back to being Troy,” Clark said.

Just an older, wiser Troy.


09-02-2012, 10:30 PM
It's easy for some to call troy overrated because throughout any game he generally has one or two easy to spot misses. What most seem to overlook however is those misses comes from Troy's ability and desire to sell himself out completely on every play. He's all over the field and is simply the most involved player on the defense. I suppose he could take a page out of ed reed's playbook. he could lay back, rarely tackle and cherry pick 10 interceptions a year - and then there would be minimal mistakes to point out by those totally overlooking the fact that less mistakes would be due to him taking few chances.

in today's world of ESPN and 5 second video clips - a selfish player can literally take 30 plays off, make 2 great ones, and end up in the HOF. good thing for us Troy treats every play like it's his last, and NEVER plays it 'safe'....no pun intended.

09-03-2012, 06:14 PM
When healthy he's not overrated. When he is injured, well, everyone sucks.
So you can say he's been injury prone, but he plays safety. Alot of the top safeties are injury prone. Reed, Bob Sanders and the like.

09-03-2012, 06:33 PM
When healthy he's not overrated. When he is injured, well, everyone sucks.
So you can say he's been injury prone, but he plays safety. Alot of the top safeties are injury prone. Reed, Bob Sanders and the like.

Sanders is beyond injury prone. He simply could never stay healthy other than a handful of years. Reed, yea he has had some injuries, but he plays more than he sits, something I can't say about Sanders. Sanders was an injury machine. Season-ending injury after season-ending injury. He was small but played big, and I guess he ended up being to small to play that big after all.