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California-Steel
08-14-2012, 11:27 AM
I heard that Mike Wallace is going to report to camp soon!!!! Anyone heard this news?

California-Steel
08-14-2012, 11:39 AM
By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com

Mike Wallace's holdout could be coming to an end shortly.

Wallace, the Steelers' leading receiver, is expected to report to the team before the regular season begins, according to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. This doesn't guarantee that Wallace will be catching passes in Week 1 -- Schefter prefaced this with "he always could change his mind" -- but this is the first indication that Wallace is not planning to extend his holdout into the regular season.

Wallace, who has yet to sign his $2.7 million restricted free-agent tender, only needs to be on the roster for six weeks to be eligible for unrestricted free agency next season. So, there was always a chance he could repeat what Vincent Jackson did in 2010 and sit out the first 10 games of the regular season.

ESPN's John Clayton predicted Wallace will return to the Steelers before the start of the regular season in his weekly mailbag because Wallace will lose $159,000 each week in salary.

According to Clayton, the Steelers are offering a five-year contract worth more than $50 million. Wallace wants around $11.5 million per year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...medium=twitter (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52550/wallace-expected-to-report-before-season-begins?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

SidSmythe
08-14-2012, 12:24 PM
What a DINK!!
It wouldn't bother me so much if we didn't have a new offense. I hope he's our 4th WR this year. BUTTHEAD!!

papillon
08-14-2012, 01:06 PM
Wallace has misplayed this holdout from the beginning. Coming in at the start of the season guarantees you don't get a long term deal completed, because the Steelers don't negotiate contracts once the season starts. If he's coming in for week 1, he should sign the tender now and let his agent continue negotiating the long term deal. If he's going to wait until week 1, he may as well wait until week 10, why risk injury without the long term deal you want?

He has been either given bad advice or has made poor decisions on his own this entire holdout, IMHO.

Pappy

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 01:42 PM
Wallace has misplayed this holdout from the beginning. Coming in at the start of the season guarantees you don't get a long term deal completed, because the Steelers don't negotiate contracts once the season starts. If he's coming in for week 1, he should sign the tender now and let his agent continue negotiating the long term deal. If he's going to wait until week 1, he may as well wait until week 10, why risk injury without the long term deal you want?

He has been either given bad advice or has made poor decisions on his own this entire holdout, IMHO.

Pappy

Completely agree. I really have to wonder if he really wants to stay a Steeler despite the propaganda he puts out through buddies on the team. IMO the internal competition with Antonio Brown may be a little more than Wallace can handle or wants to deal with.

Why else would you adopt a strategy that EVERYONE KNOWS will not get you a contract?

DukieBoy
08-14-2012, 02:25 PM
$159,000 per week. I'll bet most of Planet Steelers work 3 or more years to earn $159K.

I Know ... my perspective is all wrong.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 02:41 PM
$159,000 per week. I'll bet most of Planet Steelers work 3 or more years to earn $159K.

I Know ... my perspective is all wrong.

Yes you are wrong. Don't you know that these guys are entitled to make enough money by their late-20s so that they never have to work another day in their life. It would be completely unfair to ask them to use the free education they got playing football in college and get a second career. It would also be unfair to ask them to live in anything less than a million dollar home or reduce their lifestyle at anytime in their lives.

I think you are just being unreasonable to expect these demi-gods to live anything like the fans who worship them do.

D Rock
08-14-2012, 03:13 PM
hate all you want Ovi, but you keep watching them play. That's the reason they get paid so much...because we all keep watching.

They have a skill that other people pay to see them use. Good for them.

feltdizz
08-14-2012, 03:13 PM
Yes you are wrong. Don't you know that these guys are entitled to make enough money by their late-20s so that they never have to work another day in their life. It would be completely unfair to ask them to use the free education they got playing football in college and get a second career. It would also be unfair to ask them to live in anything less than a million dollar home or reduce their lifestyle at anytime in their lives.

I think you are just being unreasonable to expect these demi-gods to live anything like the fans who worship them do.

Nothing cute about jealousy

How many college players make the NFL every year? Maybe 10%...

the rest have to struggle like us at regular jobs.

phillyesq
08-14-2012, 03:26 PM
Wallace has misplayed this holdout from the beginning. Coming in at the start of the season guarantees you don't get a long term deal completed, because the Steelers don't negotiate contracts once the season starts. If he's coming in for week 1, he should sign the tender now and let his agent continue negotiating the long term deal. If he's going to wait until week 1, he may as well wait until week 10, why risk injury without the long term deal you want?

He has been either given bad advice or has made poor decisions on his own this entire holdout, IMHO.

Pappy

Well said, and I completely agree.

Regardless of his poor off-the-field decision making, I hope that Wallace returns, and the sooner the better. The Steelers offense is undeniably better with him on the field.

pittpete
08-14-2012, 03:39 PM
supply and demand fellas

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 03:42 PM
hate all you want Ovi, but you keep watching them play. That's the reason they get paid so much...because we all keep watching.

They have a skill that other people pay to see them use. Good for them.


No hate. Learn to recognize sarcasm. Don't hate them anymore than anyone who wins the lottery and most players just won the genetic lottery.

D Rock
08-14-2012, 03:59 PM
No hate. Learn to recognize sarcasm. Don't hate them anymore than anyone who wins the lottery and most players just won the genetic lottery.


Oh I picked up on it plenty well. You were being sarcastic in defending their lifestyle. That equals hating on them buddy.

It's an interesting version of sarcasm really. A passive-aggressive sort that just comes off as bitter.

feltdizz
08-14-2012, 04:03 PM
No hate. Learn to recognize sarcasm. Don't hate them anymore than anyone who wins the lottery and most players just won the genetic lottery.

genetic lottery? No... you still have to produce, shake the right hands and make the right moves to get to the NFL. I've seen tons of talent fall by the waste side because kids didn't understand the "game" before and after the game.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 04:12 PM
Oh I picked up on it plenty well. You were being sarcastic in defending their lifestyle. That equals hating on them buddy.

It's an interesting version of sarcasm really. A passive-aggressive sort that just comes off as bitter.

Can't fool you. You truly understand the inner workings of my mind and my deepest thoughts Got me.

Don't mistake the fact I don't worship these guys as hate because I don't. I love the sport and the entertainment it provides. They entertain me just like a movie actor does.

DukieBoy
08-14-2012, 04:40 PM
hate all you want Ovi, but you keep watching them play. That's the reason they get paid so much...because we all keep watching.

They have a skill that other people pay to see them use. Good for them.

​Yeah, I do enjoy watching them.

Shawn
08-14-2012, 06:04 PM
hate all you want Ovi, but you keep watching them play. That's the reason they get paid so much...because we all keep watching.

They have a skill that other people pay to see them use. Good for them.

Exactly. These guys have a skill set that people want to see. That skill set pays a lot of money. If they want to make as much as they can with said skill set why would anyone be upset with that? I will never understand the hate.

flippy
08-14-2012, 07:03 PM
hate all you want Ovi, but you keep watching them play. That's the reason they get paid so much...because we all keep watching.

They have a skill that other people pay to see them use. Good for them.

Unfortunately no one will pay to watch me type.

hawaiiansteel
08-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Unfortunately no one will pay to watch me type.

I would if you looked like this: ;)

http://images.inmagine.com/img/ojoimages/oj096/pe0064657.jpg

NorthCoast
08-14-2012, 07:48 PM
So let me ask the question; Wallace holds out for 10% more, .. can the Steelers dock his pay 10% if he fails to produce ? ... seems the team takes a lot more risk than the players in these high dollar/guaranteed contracts. I am sure glad the Steelers have some sense about how to manage their cap and talent.

D Rock
08-14-2012, 08:00 PM
So let me ask the question; Wallace holds out for 10% more, .. can the Steelers dock his pay 10% if he fails to produce ? ... seems the team takes a lot more risk than the players in these high dollar/guaranteed contracts. I am sure glad the Steelers have some sense about how to manage their cap and talent.


that's what performance bonuses are for

hawaiiansteel
08-14-2012, 08:08 PM
Why else would you adopt a strategy that EVERYONE KNOWS will not get you a contract?

well, it won't get Wallace a contract with the Steelers perhaps. but since the Steelers are unwilling to meet his contractual demands and he seems intent on getting paid Vincent Jackson type money Wallace is going to sit out as long as he can and reduce the risk of injury and look forward to becoming an UFA next season (assuming the Steelers don't franchise him) and get his new contract from another NFL team.

aggiebones
08-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I read he'll be back for the last preseason game.
I don't understand why he doesn't sign and come in and leave enough time to renegotiate. Obviously they are willing. Dumb. By delaying, he all but guarantees that he'll be playing for $2.7M

skyhawk
08-14-2012, 08:31 PM
Yes you are wrong. Don't you know that these guys are entitled to make enough money by their late-20s so that they never have to work another day in their life. It would be completely unfair to ask them to use the free education they got playing football in college and get a second career. It would also be unfair to ask them to live in anything less than a million dollar home or reduce their lifestyle at anytime in their lives.

I think you are just being unreasonable to expect these demi-gods to live anything like the fans who worship them do.

Tagging on late, sorry.

They think they are entitled to all this money. And they may be right. A study that Dr. Phil mentioned on his show (Terrel Owens was on it - deadbeat dad) that 70% of NFL players are broke 3-5 yrs after they retire anyways. :O

Flasteel
08-14-2012, 08:39 PM
Tagging on late, sorry.

They think they are entitled to all this money. And they may be right. A study that Dr. Phil mentioned on his show (Terrel Owens was on it - deadbeat dad) that 70% of NFL players are broke 3-5 yrs after they retire anyways. :O

They make a lot of money, but like Patrick Ewing once famously stated, they spend a lot too.:D

SanAntonioSteelerFan
08-14-2012, 10:02 PM
So let me ask the question; Wallace holds out for 10% more, .. can the Steelers dock his pay 10% if he fails to produce ? ... seems the team takes a lot more risk than the players in these high dollar/guaranteed contracts. I am sure glad the Steelers have some sense about how to manage their cap and talent.
I always thought the opposite. Can't the teams just let the people go if they start with major suckage, or if they get injured and then it's Wal-Mart here I come for the player? I probably got that wrong, don't mean to be in-your-FACE about it, sorry!