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phillyesq
08-14-2012, 10:55 AM
Great news:

http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2012/08/14/starks-removed-from-pup-list/#.UCpXoenr6pY.twitter

Wexell reported earlier this morning that the Steelers plan to have Starks start at LT this year, barring a setback. Even if he starts, I think Adams will end up playing at some point, either at LT or RT, and I think the year as a reserve will serve him well.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 11:11 AM
Good news. Let's hope they bring him back slowly. Yet again the most underappreciated player in recent memory may become one of the most important.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 11:14 AM
Great news:

http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2012/08/14/starks-removed-from-pup-list/#.UCpXoenr6pY.twitter

Wexell reported earlier this morning that the Steelers plan to have Starks start at LT this year, barring a setback. Even if he starts, I think Adams will end up playing at some point, either at LT or RT, and I think the year as a reserve will serve him well.

IMO Adfams will play this year only in the event of an injury to Gilbert or Starks or to give someone a breather. He could very well be inactive for many games. I think he will be a good player, but he needs to go back into the oven because he isn't quite fully baked yet. Still a little soft in the middle.

phillyesq
08-14-2012, 11:31 AM
IMO Adfams will play this year only in the event of an injury to Gilbert or Starks or to give someone a breather. He could very well be inactive for many games. I think he will be a good player, but he needs to go back into the oven because he isn't quite fully baked yet. Still a little soft in the middle.

It will be interesting to see what the Steelers do on game days. With Foster getting time at RT and Gilbert at left, I wonder if the plan is for the gameday backups to the Foster and Legursky. I'd prefer an arrangment that doesn't require shuffling 2 positions in the event that Starks gets dinged, and I think that Adams/Legursky allows that flexibility. Should be interesting.

Shawn
08-14-2012, 11:52 AM
We don't want to see any scenerio where Adams is starting this season. He was raw in college...no way he is ready for the NFL. He will need some time...at least one season...and probably two before he is starter ready. So this is great news.

Snatch98
08-14-2012, 01:46 PM
I don't think the Steelers are as worried about Adams as some of the fan base. It's still WAY early and I've read on a few occasions about players being impressed with him while run blocking. He just wasn't ready for the speed. He needs James Harrison in practice and he'll turn a corner OR find out that he's really not ready. Harrison off the PUP only helps Adams.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 01:54 PM
I don't think the Steelers are as worried about Adams as some of the fan base. It's still WAY early and I've read on a few occasions about players being impressed with him while run blocking. He just wasn't ready for the speed. He needs James Harrison in practice and he'll turn a corner OR find out that he's really not ready. Harrison off the PUP only helps Adams.

James Harrison actually practicing...that is a whole other issue:rolleyes:

Who will practice first: Harrison or Wallace? I'm not so sure it will be Harrison. I think we have seen the last of the "great" James Harrsion as a real difference maker.

Pops8
08-14-2012, 02:18 PM
The Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.kffl.com/team/30/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers) activated OT Max Starks (http://www.kffl.com/player/9603/nfl/max-starks) (knee) from the Physically Unable to Perform list Tuesday, Aug. 14. The team also signed free-agent RB Jason Ford (http://www.kffl.com/player/26622/nfl/jason-ford) (Texans) and put RB John Clay (http://www.kffl.com/player/23961/nfl/john-clay) on the Waived/Injured list.
2012-08-14 10:54:54 | Source: KFFL.com (http://www.kffl.com/)


Read more: http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=803829-steelers-roster-moves#ixzz23Xt8kfmf (http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=803829-steelers-roster-moves#ixzz23Xt8kfmf)

Slapstick
08-14-2012, 02:29 PM
I think we have seen the last of the "great" James Harrsion as a real difference maker.

When you put quotes around the word great, you are implying that James Harrison has not been a great player...

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 02:43 PM
When you put quotes around the word great, you are implying that James Harrison has not been a great player...

GREAT--fixed that!!!!!!!!

phillyesq
08-14-2012, 02:48 PM
James Harrison actually practicing...that is a whole other issue


Who will practice first: Harrison or Wallace? I'm not so sure it will be Harrison. I think we have seen the last of the "great" James Harrsion as a real difference maker.

You've been predicting this for a few years. No offense, but I don't look forward to when you are ultimately right on this one.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
You've been predicting this for a few years. No offense, but I don't look forward to when you are ultimately right on this one.

I don't want to be roght either but IMO it was inevitable with his bullrush, balls to wall style that his body was going to give out. It's not like he was a 22 year old when he was doing it.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
08-14-2012, 04:02 PM
When you put quotes around the word great, you are implying that James Harrison has not been a great player...

I think that he is stating that the JH we have become used to - the dominant force - will no longer be playing at the same level.

Oviedo
08-14-2012, 04:17 PM
I think that he is stating that the JH we have become used to - the dominant force - will no longer be playing at the same level.

Correct. That was the intent. Unfortunately it may have begun to end after three year of excellence.

hawaiiansteel
08-14-2012, 06:34 PM
Moving along

TUESDAY, AUGUST 14, 2012
posted by Dale Lolley


The Steelers on Tuesday activated Max Starks from the PUP list, meaning he will likely be ready to start the season at left tackle for them - at least that's their hope.

In the meantime, the Steelers will continue to work Marcus Gilbert at LT as their emergency plan with rookie Mike Adams out with a knee injury.

Starks won't fully practice until Friday and won't see action against Indianapolis in their preseason game Sunday. But expect him in the lineup when the Steelers travel to Buffalo Aug. 26.

@ Running back John Clay apparently tore his quad muscle at practice Sunday and was waive/injured Tuesday.

With the roster space, the Steelers added former Houston Texans running back Jay Ford, a 5-10, 238-pound fireplug.

Ford looks like a fullback, though I can't find a lot of background info on him.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

fezziwig
08-15-2012, 04:23 PM
wow, the injuries keep monting

hawaiiansteel
08-18-2012, 01:19 AM
Notebook: Starks doubtful for Sunday

By Alan Robinson
Published: Friday, August 17, 2012

http://triblive.com/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=t27WP n1qLS7UlG_ZrqlZlc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYvIUbQa$zLyYaI d5AKKSmx1WCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4 uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_C ryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg

It's unlikely that offensive tackle Max Starks will play in the Steelers' preseason game Sunday night. (Chaz Palla | Tribune-Review)

• Coach Mike Tomlin said he hadn’t ruled anybody out that’s not on the physically unable to perform list. “All other guys are in play, and I think that’s appropriate,” Tomlin said. All except, perhaps, offensive tackle Max Starks, who was activated from the PUP list earlier this week. Starks returned for limited duty on a rain-soaked Friday afternoon but doubts if he’ll play Sunday. “(Tomlin) may not rule me out, but in my mind, I’m not going to ready by Sunday, but you never know,” said Starks, who had offseason knee surgery. Tomlin on Starks’ possible availability against Indianapolis: “I wouldn’t be surprised at all,” he said.

• Linebacker Sean Spence returned to practice two days after going down in practice with a low ankle sprain. Also, running back Jonathan Dwyer practiced after suffering a shoulder injury.

• Nose tackle Alameda Ta’amu has dropped nine pounds in an effort to improve his quickness and lateral movement. The fourth-round draft pick began the season weighing 348 pounds. He said he’s trimmer, but stronger. “My plan is to do my job and not mess up,” Ta’amu said.

• The NFL fined Eagles cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie $21,000 for his illegal hit on Steelers quarterback Byron Leftwich on Aug. 9. “Twenty-one thousand,” Rodgers-Cromartie told CSNPhilly.com. “I ain’t even got that.” Illegal hits of this nature earned a $20,000 fine last season, but minimum fines were raised 5 percent through the collective bargaining agreement.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2431693-85/starks-tomlin-sunday-amu-list-pounds-practice-pup-returned-tackle

BradshawsHairdresser
08-18-2012, 09:44 AM
“Twenty-one thousand,” Rodgers-Cromartie told CSNPhilly.com. “I ain’t even got that.”
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Pretty sure the Commish will work out a payment plan for you, buddy...

SanAntonioSteelerFan
08-18-2012, 10:10 AM
Maybe he could borrow it from Ocho Cinco. http://freddyo.com/update-ocho-cinco-is-now-facing-foreclosure/reality-tv/

Or Plax. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsogyq_plaxico-burress-owes-59-000-in-new-york-back-taxes_people

hawaiiansteel
08-21-2012, 04:28 PM
James C Wexell ‏@jimwexell:

Max Starks says he'll be practicing with the 1st team today. LT of course.

https://twitter.com/jimwexell

fezziwig
08-21-2012, 04:51 PM
He's the security blanket.

Oviedo
08-21-2012, 04:55 PM
James C Wexell ‏@jimwexell:

Max Starks says he'll be practicing with the 1st team today. LT of course.

https://twitter.com/jimwexell

Good news but there is no way he is ready for game action unless he is a medical miracle.

hawaiiansteel
08-24-2012, 10:00 PM
Buffalo turf will test Starks’ knee

By Mark Kaboly
Published: Thursday, August 23, 2012

http://triblive.com/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=2KxhU DbNWvhR2HbUXW9utc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYsD__W4otkyfOR bvcM7l11FWCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4 uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_C ryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg

Max Starks’ surgically repaired right knee passed an important test on his way back into the Steelers’ starting lineup by going through a week of pain-free practice.

But the veteran left tackle is a little concerned about his first game action in more than seven months when the Steelers travel to Buffalo for their third preseason game Saturday because of Ralph Wilson Stadium’s artificial surface and how it may affect his still-healing knee.

“Turf is always a concern for any of us because of the way it shocks your body,” he said Thursday. “It doesn’t have as much give, even though the technology is so far ahead. At the end of the day, it still has concrete as a base layer.”

The Bills replaced their eight-year-old AstroPlay turf last year with a more forgiving A-Turf Titan 50 surface. Still, Starks knows his knee will be tested on the surface under normal circumstances — let alone seven months after ACL surgery.

“Even when we go in the (Steelers’) indoor facility, you feel it the next day,” he said. “Your joints are just that much stiffer because of the fact that you are undergoing a harder pounding versus the grass.”

Ralph Wilson Stadium is one of 12 NFL stadiums that use some form of artificial surface. Including the preseason, the Steelers will play five games on an artificial surface — at Buffalo, the New York Giants, Cincinnati, Baltimore and Dallas.

Starks said he would rather test his knee this week on turf than wait until the final preseason game Thursday against Carolina on Heinz Field’s grass surface.

“(Turf) is always going to be bothersome a little bit, but I’d rather get in this game because it is a big game-prep week,” he said. “This is what a week would go through as far as the play calling, as far as the amount of snaps we are getting. As for the Carolina game, it’s going to be more of an inconsequential game.”

Starks will start and play at least into the second quarter against Buffalo. It could be more, or it could be less.

“We will play it by ear,” coach Mike Tomlin said. “Our intentions are to let him play.”

Starks is being counted on to be a bridge until second-round pick Mike Adams is ready to take over. Starks was signed days before training camp and removed from the physically unable to perform list last week.

“It felt good all this week,” Starks said, “so I am looking forward to playing.”

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2466465-85/starks-game-surface-turf-week-stadium-knee-steelers-buffalo-artificial

flippy
08-25-2012, 12:01 PM
Buffalo turf will test Starks’ knee


It's a wonder with all the new concern about player safety, the league doesn't enforce some league wide standards on field condition. Just as Buffalo should probably be outlawed, so should Pittsburgh's field.

RuthlessBurgher
08-25-2012, 02:36 PM
It's a wonder with all the new concern about player safety, the league doesn't enforce some league wide standards on field condition. Just as Buffalo should probably be outlawed, so should Pittsburgh's field.

Outlaw Buffalo's field because it's artificial...make them switch to grass.

Outlaw Pittsburgh's field because it's grass...make them switch to artificial.

I must have missed something...:confused:

flippy
08-25-2012, 03:24 PM
Outlaw Buffalo's field because it's artificial...make them switch to grass.

Outlaw Pittsburgh's field because it's grass...make them switch to artificial.

I must have missed something...:confused:

How bout something in between concrete and a field of holes?

Here's the last article I could quickly find on fields.
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d81e1a8d0/article/player-survey-reveals-arizona-indy-have-best-fields-in-nfl

Pittsburgh, Minny, Buffalo have the worst fields. Oakland, Chicago, and Miami have bad grass fields (slightly better than Pittsburgh). I also seem to remember that SF has a bad field because it gets flooded a lot.

90% of players think artificial surfaces shorten playing careers. 82% think they contribute to injuries. And 84% want a league wide standard on fields. If the players want this and it helps with player safety, why wouldn't they get it. Seems like something they should have negotiated last year.

Probably the only thing that would change it is if players started suing the NFL for injuries due to subpar fields.

hawaiiansteel
09-02-2012, 04:31 PM
On the Steelers: Starks back as starting LT

September 2, 2012
By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

For the second consecutive year, Max Starks' biography is nowhere to be found in the 500-page Steelers media guide. For the second consecutive year, Starks will hold down what football people say is the second-most important position on offense, left tackle.

He will serve as quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's blind-side protector for the fifth consecutive year. And for the second year in a row, Starks will work on a one-year, minimum-wage contract.

He couldn't be happier.

"I've been fortunate to have been in this position the past two years," Starks said, sincerely.

He goes to work with a smile on his face, even though his employers often have shown him little respect. It began with the new coaching staff in 2007. They took one look at their starting right tackle of the previous two years, including one that helped produce a Vince Lombardi Trophy, and demoted him. He started just four games that season.

Starks was headed for the same fate as a backup in '08 when Steelers management, obviously disagreeing with their coaches' assessment of the big tackle, put the transition tag on him. He played that season for $6.85 million. Good thing, too, because with Marvel Smith hurt, he became their starting left tackle and pocketed his second Super Bowl ring.

The Steelers rewarded him in '09 with a four-year, $26.3 million contract. Just two years into it, they cut him after he missed all but seven games in '10 because of neck surgery.

He sat out the first four games of '11 while the Steelers came to the realization that Jonathan Scott and Trai Essex weren't left tackles. They signed Starks again, and he started the rest of the way until his ACL was torn in January in a playoff loss. He became a free agent again in March, and the Steelers waited until the eve of training camp to sign him, for one year at the veteran minimum.

He played in the final two preseason games and will open the season as the starting left tackle after rookie Mike Adams did not show enough. Starks has been bruised and abused, but shrugs it off as he often does pass-rushers.

"I never felt unwanted," Starks said. "I never looked at it as being unwanted. I realize it's a business, and a lot of people make decisions. You can't affect those decisions, you can either let those decisions confuse you and use it as a crutch to say, 'Oh, they're picking on me, they don't like me, why do they do this and why do they do that?'

"Me, I just said there's an opportunity to get better at something else while I have the opportunity. I think I've constantly proven that. I have a work ethic and I know I have value, if not here then in the league in general. It just so happens, I've played for the same team."

Starks has started at left or right tackle most of the past seven seasons after playing in 10 games as a rookie in '04. His demotion in '07 by new coach Mike Tomlin and his staff is the only time since that a starting job was not his. Even he thought it would not happen this season. Rehabilitating from ACL surgery, he watched the Steelers draft Adams in the second round from Ohio State and announce they would put him at left tackle.

"There was no way I was thinking when I get healthy they'll re-sign me," Starks said. "I wanted to get healthy and figured teams will be out there, and, if I have to wait through training camp and into the season like last year, I'll do that, prepare for that. It just so happens, there was an opportunity to come back. It was a blessing."

It struck him one day at practice that he had been doing this for a while. Four ex-players came back for a night practice at Latrobe to officially "retire" as Steelers: Joey Porter, Aaron Smith, Marvel Smith and Willie Parker.

"A lot of these guys were saying, 'Who is Joey Porter, who is Marvel Smith?' I said, what? I played with all four of those guys. They didn't know who they were. Then talking to Marvel during that practice, he said he knew only about eight dudes on the team."

Starks is 30, same age as Roethlisberger, same draft class. Only backup quarterbacks Byron Leftwich, 32, and Charlie Batch, 37, are older on a young offense.

"To know I'm in my ninth year is truly a blessing, especially when in this league there's such a short time frame for a lot of people. To be around here that long and with the same team is awesome. I'm looking forward to continuing to do great things while I'm still here."

It is why he still is here.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/on-the-steelers-starks-back-as-starting-lt-651556/#ixzz25L1ynBgG