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RuthlessBurgher
08-01-2012, 04:27 PM
Steelers' Roethlisberger not worried about 'little' tear in rotator cuff
August 1, 2012 3:35 pm
By Ed Bouchette / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Ben Roethlisberger does not seem as concerned about his "little torn rotator cuff" in his right arm, nor as worried about the new offense and turning 30, as he is eager to see Mike Wallace rejoin the Steelers in training camp.

Toward that end, Roethlisbeger has spoken regularly with Wallace since camp opened and even told Steelers president Art Rooney that first day at Saint Vincent College that he would fly to Louisiana to talk to his top receiver if he thought it was a good idea. He did not.

"I've tried to be proactive and talk to Mike," Roethlisberger told the Post-Gazette today. "I just want to encourage him, let him know we love him, he's a great teammate, he's a great friend.

"We just want him to get here as soon as he can. Obviously, this is a business and he has to do what's best for him. I don't know what's going on or what's offered. But I just want Mike to be happy and I want him to be here because he's a great asset to the team."

Wallace skipped all the team's spring workouts and has stayed away from training camp. He received no offers as a restricted free agent this year after the Steelers tendered him a one-year, $2.742 million contract that remains on the table. They had been negotiating a multiple-year deal but that ended with his holdout. General manager Kevin Colbert said negotiations will not resume until he signs the one-year contract and reports to the team.

In his talks with Wallace, Roethlisberger has come to the conclusion that it will not be long now.

"I don't know what's going on with his agent or what they're telling each other, but he wants to be here," Roethlisberger said. "I believe he will be here and I think he'll be here soon."

Once he rejoins the Steelers, he will get a crash course in Todd Haley's new offense, and have some expensive tutors.

"I'm sure as soon as he's here he will pick it up," Roethlisberger predicted. "He plays one position, and that's great, so he can just learn his spot. I think when he gets here, we'll make sure, and I'll work extra with him, I'll stay after practice if we have to. Anything to get him up to speed and get ready to roll."

For the record, Roethlisberger likes the new offense and says he and Haley get along well -- and he does not believe his right arm will hold back that offense. It was injured in the Steelers Nov. 6 loss to Baltimore. He mentioned it in the spring but this is the first time he's publicly called it a rotator cuff tear. However, he says it feels fine, that his arm feels strong and that it should not hamper any of his throws.

"I'm good. It's OK, just sore," he said when asked about his arm injury. "I have a little torn rotator cuff. That doesn't heal. We just have to hope it doesn't tear the rest of the way, according to Doc," he said, laughing.

He does take some precautions before practice, and not just because of the injury.

"It's part of getting older, too. If you watch walk-throughs, I used to throw all the time. Now it's just backing off. Now I don't ever throw during walk-throughs. It's less throwing; I think that's smart anyway. As you get older, you just need to take care of yourself whether you're hurt or not."

Suddenly, even the soreness seemed to disappear.

"It actually feels great,'' Roethlisberger said. "I don't have any pains anymore. Let's just hope it doesn't get any worse."

What has gotten better is his understanding of Haley's offense. Their relationship is growing and the shock value of having his mentor and friend, Bruce Arians, shown the door as coordinator by the Steelers in January has worn off.

"Obviously, things got blown up early on," Roethlisberger said of the firing/hiring. His relationship with Haley "really has been good, it's been good ebb and flow, talking, changing things; he's been open to hearing some change, I've been open to changes from him. So it's been really good. Every day we learn something new about either each other, the relationship, the offense, something. We take it, we run with it and we're not looking back."

Roethlisberger also acknowledged liking the new offense.

"I think it gives us great opportunities to use the weapons we have. We're still learning it, I mean, we put in part of the offense, we haven't even seen it all yet . . . Once we start getting week to week, we'll see how the game-planning starts going, the play calling in the game, even the preseason I'm looking forward to kind of seeing his mentality when it comes to a game."

The Steelers practiced the no-huddle offense for the first time on Tuesday, and Haley talked about using it more often this season, something Roethlisberger enjoys hearing. Haley also said he will help him call the plays until he becomes more familiar with them, then turn the whole thing over to his quarterback.

"He would tell me the play and I would call it," Roethlisberger said of Tuesday's drills. "I was fine with that. In the past, I wouldn't have liked it too much. Right now, I'm for him helping me out because I don't know it well enough yet and I don't want to put us in a bad situation.

"I enjoy it, I'm out there, I can see what's going on, get the ball to certain guys. I do enjoy it, I think it's a great up-tempo. I know for a fact our offensive guys love it because they've come to me many times in the past, 'Why don't we do more huddle? We love when you get it'. Everybody gets into a flow, you get into a rhythm and it feels like the right thing to do at the time."

One thing Haley and Roethlisberger are still working on is when to dump the ball off to a back when the main receivers are not open. Haley wants to see more of it, Roethlisberger would still like to check more secondary receivers. Haley emphasizes that he wants his quarterbacks to make quick decisions and get rid of the ball, even if that means a "check down" to a back. Roethlisberger, of course, has made a reputation as a scrambling gunslinger at times.

They are trying to find that happy medium.

"You can tell that his philosophy is, find your first receiver, if he's not there, find the back. That doesn't always work. I think that's good in theory but I think we have guys you can look for multiple options. You can look to Mike or Antonio [Brown] or Emmanuel [Sanders] and then find Heath [Miller] and then go to the back. We've been able to do that in the past where you look to one side and then go to the other.

"I think you have to know where the back is at all the time. I think that's his big emphasis, just know where the back is at all times. There are times the back won't be able to get out because he's helping to block. Just know where he is when things break down. I need to always focus where the back is. We've done a good job of that in practice. It's not necessarily, 'OK, let's get the ball to the back all the time,' its just know where the back is."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/roethlisberger-not-worried-about-little-tear-in-rotator-cuff-647119/?p=0

Slapstick
08-01-2012, 04:39 PM
Roethlisberger and Haley need to agree on situations...

If you throw on first and/or second down, a checkdown to the back is a fine move...get 5 or 6 yards and go back to the LoS...

If it's 3rd and 10, checkdowns to the RB aren't going to advance the chains, generally speaking...there, you can keep the play alive...

But, if you check down on 1st and 2nd, you can usually avoid 3rd and 10...

Oviedo
08-01-2012, 05:07 PM
If he has a rotator cuff issue then maybe they should limit his long throws that require the most tourque and power. if he isn't throwing deep then that limits the value of Wallace and we may not need him. Problem solved :)

Flasteel
08-01-2012, 05:17 PM
One of the most interesting articles I've read this offseason. Thanks for posting the whole thing RB...only saw the truncated version on PFT.

I understand what he means by one of those nagging rotator cuff tears. Both have mine have been torn for several years and have never properly healed. The left one will just get sore from time to time, but even under stress and heavy activity, it never really causes any problems. Different story with the right side though.

These are the first truly positive and in-depth comments I've heard from Roethlisberger (concerning the offense) and I am loving what he is saying...and revealing. The no-huddle was something I screamed for every week on this board. I can only laugh when I hear how much the players begged Roethlisberger for it in the past. If that's not an indictment of Arians' play-calling ability, then I don't know what one might look like. I'm no less than geeked to hear that Haley wants to turn it over to Ben, once he gets things down.

As far as the disagreement he's having over when to check it down, I can see valid points on both sides. Not only do we have the weapons who can get open down field and present match-up problems for any defense, one of Ben's best attributes is his ability to extend plays. There are times when Haley is going to have to trust his quarterback's ability to recognize the coverage and know when he's got some opportunities to make some plays down field.

However, I think Ben needs to better recognize the play-making ability he's going to have lined up behind him and Haley's knowledge of how to best use that talent. I realize that neither Rainey or Batch have ever taken a snap for this team, but I know first-hand what the former brings to the table and we all saw the skill set that the latter flashed as a rookie last year. These guys will be dangerous in the open field and present a match-up nightmare themselves. There should be many times where Ben should be checking down immediately to one of these guys. Rainey is just as much of a threat to take it to the house as any receiver on this team and I think he'll become a frequent primary target in the passing game.

Lastly, the comments from Ben about Mike Wallace really wanting to be here left me wondering. Just how much of this hold-out is Bus Cook? Is Wallace really holding back based on the advice of his agent, or is he the one telling Cook to stand-fast? If Wallace really feels strongly about being here, he should tell Cook to either get it done yesterday or you're fired. It would be a great PR move to terminate the problem and sign his tender in good faith.

Again...great article.

NorthCoast
08-01-2012, 06:00 PM
Steelers' Roethlisberger not worried about 'little' tear in rotator cuff


One thing Haley and Roethlisberger are still working on is when to dump the ball off to a back when the main receivers are not open. Haley wants to see more of it, Roethlisberger would still like to check more secondary receivers. Haley emphasizes that he wants his quarterbacks to make quick decisions and get rid of the ball, even if that means a "check down" to a back. Roethlisberger, of course, has made a reputation as a scrambling gunslinger at times.

They are trying to find that happy medium.


http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/roethlisberger-not-worried-about-little-tear-in-rotator-cuff-647119/?p=0

Some positives in this article and some not so positive. Like to hear that both Ben and Haley are open to each others ideas. But the quote above pretty much tells me Ben still wants to be Ben. I honestly think age and injury will eventually make Ben rethink his game. It might not be this season but it will happen and he will be better for it.

DukieBoy
08-01-2012, 06:08 PM
And so, of course, ESPN's NFL32 is saying a bit derisively, what would a season be without Ben Roethlisberger revealing a little injury and stirring up son drama.

NorthCoast
08-01-2012, 06:21 PM
And so, of course, ESPN's NFL32 is saying a bit derisively, what would a season be without Ben Roethlisberger revealing a little injury and stirring up son drama.

Ben won't win against this perception until he changes his game. The perception is Ben is a big strong guy that brings alot of this stuff on himself. He rarely misses time from these injuries when an ordinary QB would be out multiple weeks. How many QBs in the NFL would finish a game with a high ankle sprain, then go on to play the very next week???.... Answer: one...Ben. Somehow this is lost on the media that these are painful injuries that sideline the ordinary.

DukieBoy
08-01-2012, 06:39 PM
Media reporting the facts is secondary to entertainment and shaping perceptions for entertainment value. And so, Ben is typecast. I agree, Ben is physically tough way beyond the norm, and is misrepresented by the media in this regard. I wish he would not talk about injuries at all, not give the media any of that entertainment fodder.

D Rock
08-01-2012, 06:49 PM
Ben won't win against this perception until he changes his game. The perception is Ben is a big strong guy that brings alot of this stuff on himself. He rarely misses time from these injuries when an ordinary QB would be out multiple weeks. How many QBs in the NFL would finish a game with a high ankle sprain, then go on to play the very next week???.... Answer: one...Ben. Somehow this is lost on the media that these are painful injuries that sideline the ordinary.

Byron Leftwich would

feltdizz
08-01-2012, 07:10 PM
Ben knows what he is doing....

flippy
08-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Is Ben wanting Wallace back, Wally's kiss of death?

Flasteel
08-01-2012, 07:50 PM
Is Ben wanting Wallace back, Wally's kiss of death?

He may have lost out with Plax and Arians, but he did get Starks.:D

fezziwig
08-01-2012, 09:52 PM
I tore my cuff before, it hurts like you won't believe. I had the surgery and I actually recovered quickly. I was 30 years old at the time also. Prior to the surgery I let it go for a year and I had little strength and it hurt all the time. Being a bricklayer I use my arms constantly at work and I just wish I would have had the surgery sooner. I don't understand why, they wouldn't have taken care of it when they first knew about it. If he does have the injury, he won't be accurate, he won't be able to put any thrust on his throws and his shoulder/pain will let him down. Just my opinion of this with having the same injury.

Flasteel
08-01-2012, 10:16 PM
I tore my cuff before, it hurts like you won't believe. I had the surgery and I actually recovered quickly. I was 30 years old at the time also. Prior to the surgery I let it go for a year and I had little strength and it hurt all the time. Being a bricklayer I use my arms constantly at work and I just wish I would have had the surgery sooner. I don't understand why, they wouldn't have taken care of it when they first knew about it. If he does have the injury, he won't be accurate, he won't be able to put any thrust on his throws and his shoulder/pain will let him down. Just my opinion of this with having the same injury.

There are different degrees of tears though. If it's mild, then you should be able to treat with ice, anti-inflammatories, and rest. I'm sure that Roethlisberger's cuff is nothing more than this variety.

fezziwig
08-01-2012, 10:22 PM
Yeah, I understand that but I'm just thinking with the top medical attention these guys recieve maybe, they would have looked for a chance to have it taken care of as soon as they found out. Had they jumped on it right after the season maybe Ben would be 100% by now. For sure the Steelers/Ben did what was best. Just me bouncing things around. Damn it Jim, I'm a bricklayer, I'm not a doctor.

RuthlessBurgher
08-01-2012, 11:18 PM
I was a bricklayer once...but then I stopped playing basketball. :p

NJ-STEELER
08-02-2012, 02:17 AM
Yeah, I understand that but I'm just thinking with the top medical attention these guys recieve maybe, they would have looked for a chance to have it taken care of as soon as they found out. Had they jumped on it right after the season maybe Ben would be 100% by now. For sure the Steelers/Ben did what was best. Just me bouncing things around. Damn it Jim, I'm a bricklayer, I'm not a doctor.

if you can avoid the surgery...thats always the best option

feltdizz
08-02-2012, 08:32 AM
It hurts...it's soar.. it's good...it's fine... it's August.

RuthlessBurgher
08-02-2012, 10:12 AM
if you can avoid the surgery...thats always the best option

My wife had to have rotator cuff surgery. She actually had a bone spur on her shoulder that was shaped sort of like a scythe (that thing the grim reaper carries), and it was actually cutting away at her muscle bit-by-bit when she would be moving her shoulder around. She had surgery to repair the rotator cuff and grind down the bone spur, which eventually grew back, and then she had to have the surgery all over again several years later. Sucks.

flippy
08-02-2012, 11:21 AM
he won't be accurate, he won't be able to put any thrust on his throws and his shoulder/pain will let him down.

We're talking about the superhuman Big Ben here. If something's not broken, sore, gimpy, Ben's not Ben.

Where's Hines to rag on him when you need him? Hines could remind Ben that Hines was born without shoulders. What we all thought were shoulders were just 2 big chips between his arms and neck. And even without shoulders, Hines never complained.

Hines has no shoulders, no toes, no skull, no ACL and it's rumored he stayed after practice to let Jimmy Hate tackle him 100+ times a day every day so he could learn to numb out the pain.

Ben just needs his own hyperbaric chamber to sleep in.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
08-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Some positives in this article and some not so positive. Like to hear that both Ben and Haley are open to each others ideas. But the quote above pretty much tells me Ben still wants to be Ben. I honestly think age and injury will eventually make Ben rethink his game. It might not be this season but it will happen and he will be better for it.

This is the biggest difference between Ben and Tom Brady. Brady always takes what the D gives him and moves on to the next play. Once Ben learns that not every pass has to be a 50 yarder, his game will rise that extra notch to elite status.

williar
08-02-2012, 03:31 PM
I am lmao at this! Am I wrong for that?

RuthlessBurgher
08-02-2012, 04:04 PM
I am lmao at this! Am I wrong for that?

I'm LMFAO...:p

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skyhawk
08-02-2012, 05:50 PM
Ben knows what he is doing....

Yep. And the rotator cuff thingy sounds like a little Ben drama going on. I like.

NJ-STEELER
08-02-2012, 05:50 PM
My wife had to have rotator cuff surgery. She actually had a bone spur on her shoulder that was shaped sort of like a scythe (that thing the grim reaper carries), and it was actually cutting away at her muscle bit-by-bit when she would be moving her shoulder around. She had surgery to repair the rotator cuff and grind down the bone spur, which eventually grew back, and then she had to have the surgery all over again several years later. Sucks.


no one can predict scar tissue or say a surgeon accidently cutting a nerve. there's multiple reason why you dont do the surgery if you really dont have to

D Rock
08-02-2012, 07:19 PM
The link on Yahoo's NFL homepage right now says:

"Big Ben tears rotator cuff"


sensationalist media? NEVER!

Flasteel
08-03-2012, 10:11 AM
Here's a nice breakdown of the current situation with Ben's rotator cuff and a whole lot more. By the way, the guy asking Shefter all of the questions in the first video -Kevin Negandhi- is one of my closest friends...pretty cool to post a link with his interview here.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp12/story/_/id/8228059/pittsburgh-steelers-ben-roethlisberger-looks-same-old-ben-training-camp

hawaiiansteel
08-03-2012, 08:58 PM
Will Ben Roethlisberger’s Shoulder Get the Steelers Through The Season?

August 3, 2012 By LG

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All the talk about a tear to Ben Roethlisberger’s shoulder could make Steelers fans a little nervous before the 2012 season even starts. The thing is, Roethlisberger doesn’t show any signs of having a shoulder injury. In LATROBE — at training camp Big Ben is throwing the ball just fine. Tight spiral after tight spiral, Roethlisberger continues to throw the ball down field and deep too. Not only is he throwing the ball deep he is dropping it right into the hands of his receivers. In other words, Ben Roethlisberger is looking great in camp.

The Steelers O-line is going to have to protect him better this season, after all Ben is no spring chicken anymore. After 8 season in the N.F.L. playing the kind of football Roethlisberger plays the body is going to be a little worn. If the Steelers can protect Big Ben once the season starts, he should be able to get them through another hard-fought season. That is what Roethlisberger does, he goes to war with his Steelers, and one way or another he usually finds a way to compete on a high level.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/will_ben_roethlisbergers_shoulder_get_the_steelers _through_the_season/11370316

hawaiiansteel
08-07-2012, 12:50 AM
Steelers, Ben Roethlisberger & Long-Term Health, Depth, And Future Plans

Aug 6th, 2012 by Dominic Di TollaSteelers

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Allow me to be perfectly clear, I am not adopting a “sky is falling” mentality with the news of Ben’s rotator cuff and now his sprained ankle. Both ailments seem to be more minor than anything, and in the short-term (2012 and 2013) are likely not be enormous issues or issues at all. Yet with the news of Big Ben’s recent aches and pains, and considering the absolute bludgeoning #7 has taken on a yearly basis over his 8 seasons in the League, I still have to wonder:

Are the Steelers truly prepared for a scenario where Big Ben goes down for a significant period in 2012 or in the near future? Furthermore, will the franchise be fully prepared to replace Big Ben entirely if his career ends unexpectedly, and sooner rather than later?

Big Ben: 8 Years of Success Plus 8 Years of Pain

Ben Roethlisberger has made his mark as one of the most successful Quarterbacks of the last decade through his career so far. A 2X Pro Bowler, a 3x AFC Champion, and a 2x Super Bowl champion, only Tom Brady has more rings as a starting Quarterback, and only Eli Manning has as many as Big Ben. Not too shabby considering the parade of Quarterbacks Big Ben followed since Terry Bradshaw abruptly retired due to injury in 1983. But Roethlisberger’s success has come at a great cost in terms of what his body has been put through.

From on field injuries which have included his throwing shoulder, head, knee, and foot, to off-field injuries like his motorcycle crash six years ago, it is somehow a miracle that Big Ben has lasted as long as he has, played in as many games as he has, and done so much behind terrible to inexperienced Offensive Lines for most of them. To me, his performance in 2010 with a broken face and a broken foot against Baltimore to win the division was nothing short of outstanding. And while football is a team effort and everybody involved in that game deserves a tip of the cap, only a special type of Quarterback with a pair of brass balls could take an illegal swipe to the face from a player like Haloti Ngata and not back down.

Big Ben’s tolerance for pain however is a bit of a double-edged sword, as he might be willing to play though injuries which require rest and time to heal and could be made worse through pushing it. Take the news of his injured shoulder for instance. Do you readers not think that with news about his shoulder that the opposition will not be gunning for Big Ben even more every week with this type of information?

I mean, while the Offensive Line has been upgraded by the addition of players like Mike Adams and David DeCastro, the oldest starter on the Offensive Line is Willie Colon who is 29, and Maurkice Pouncey is the second longest tenured starter at three years. Sure the Line will be improved from a talent standpoint, but a gelling and adjustment period will have to take place, and Big Ben could be the recipient of some nasty hits in the process. I just hope that new Offensive Coordinator Todd Haley can game plan around this weakness unlike his predecessor who thought that 5 and 7 step drops were just delightful with patch-work Offensive Line in front of his franchise Quarterback. But until we see this Offense in action in the regular season over an extended period we will just have to wait.

As much as I would like to see Big Ben play another 8+ years in the League though, it probably will not happen. The older that #7 inevitably gets, combined with the pounding which he has taken and the more hits he will eventually absorb in the future, he will likely not be able to play into his 40′s like a Brett Favre. Then when you consider the severity of some of the significant injuries and beatings he has taken over the years, it is hard to see Roethlisberger playing well into his mid to late-30′s at a high level if at all. If this is indeed the case and Big Ben is eventually forced to the sidelines for reasons similar to these in the near future, and the Steelers must look within if “big tree falls and big tree falls hard,” can Pittsburgh still play winning football?

Current Backup Situation

To their credit, both Charlie Batch and Byron Leftwich (the two QB’s which have the #2 and #3 jobs on lockdown) have done a decent job when asked to play during their careers in Pittsburgh. Batch has a 5-2 record and has gone 120 for 208 for 11 TD’s and 8 INT’s from 2002-2011, while Leftwich has done a decent job (2 TD’s passing 1 rush) in the 6 games which he has played from 2008, 2010-2011.

But while Batch and Leftwich have performed admirably during their few chances with the team, they do have numerous questions surrounding them, and might not be the long-term answers as backups for big Ben. Health and age might be the biggest issues facing both players as both have experienced injuries of their own, and both are at the end, or nearing the end of their careers.

The soon to be 38-year old Batch missed the entirety of the 2008 season with a bum collarbone, and missed the last half of 2009 with a wrist injury sustained in an Overtime loss to Kansas City. Leftwich, 32, has been banged up even more than Batch the last two years though. Byron sat out most of the 2010 season with a knee injury suffered in the preseason when he was believed to step in during Big Ben’s suspension, and did not play at all last year after suffering yet another preseason injury when he broke his arm in a nasty situation.

While both veterans will be on board for the 2012 season, and should hopefully be healthy, both players are not guarantees to stick around past this year due to their contract situations. Batch and Leftwich will be Unrestricted Free Agents before the 2013 season begins, and are thus only signed through 2012. Thus, if salary cap issues befall Pittsburgh yet again (they likely will) and veteran roster purges eventually take place, either Batch, Leftwich, or both could be on their way out of town if the team cannot afford to keep them.

If one or both of these veteran backups is gone or is injured again, Colbert & Co. in my opinion have to at least consider drafting a Quarterback to develop behind Big Ben next April or at least in the following one. While they do not have to go after one on Day 1, the thought of finding an adequate backup for Randy Fichtner and Todd Haley to mold over the next few seasons, and possibly play in case Roethlisberger gets hurt should at least cross the Steelers brass’ minds.

Final Thoughts

This franchise made arguably its worst mistake (outside cutting Johnny Unitas) when it passed on Dan Marino in 1983 and did not consider the consequences of ignoring the team’s future at the most important position on the field. Whether the franchise thought Terry Bradshaw had a lot left in the tank, the combo. of Mark Malone and Cliff Stoudt was good enough, or they just really needed a Defensive Tackle, they passed on Marino and the 80′s eventually became a decade of purgatory for the franchise.

As I stated before, I am not saying that the Steelers should use their First Round pick in next April’s draft on a Quarterback. There are enough holes on this roster with either zero players at the position (tall, field-stretching WR), or do not have significant depth with any experience (Safety, Outside Linebacker) behind them. This is a team in a transitional phase which for the next couple of seasons must address holes being left by veterans at important spots and those holes should be addressed as the Front Office sees fit.

I do however believe that the Steelers led by Colbert & Co. should seriously consider adding a Quarterback to groom to the roster next season or in 2014 which can challenge Batch, Leftwich, or both for the #3 job during his first Training Camp and the #2 job the following season. There is no telling what can happen on “Any Given Sunday,” and if Big Ben is unable to answer the bell at some point during this season and beyond, the Steelers would be best served to cover all of their bases. Overall, I just hope the Steelers are at least mulling over and adequately preparing for “Life after Ben,” and can act accordingly over the next few seasons just in case.

http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/08/06/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-long-term-health-depth-and-future-plans/

hawaiiansteel
08-13-2012, 02:56 AM
Big Ben’s Rotator Cuff Injury May Be Bad News For Mike Wallace, Steelers

Posted on August 7, 2012 by JJ


Yes, I know Mike Wallace isn’t in camp. Holdouts happen in the NFL, especially during training camp, so I won’t get worried about that until we reach Week Three of the preseason.

But there is something else that does worry me about Wallace’s production this season–the news that Ben Roethlisberger has had a minor tear in his rotator cuff that occurred in Week 9 of last season.

Rotator cuff tears aren’t something that get better on their own. You just have to hope that they don’t get worse. All reports out of training camp this summer say that Roethlisberger looks good, and that the injury doesn’t seem to be slowing him down. But I could help but think, does that explain Wallace’s second-half swoon last year?

After eight weeks of the season last year, Wallace was arguably the best wide receiver in the AFC. He had 43 catches for 800 yards with five touchdowns. He was catching roughly five passes for 100 yards a game while still averaging 18.6 yard per catch.

From Week 9 on, Wallace was just a solid, if unspectacular, receiver. There were lots of theories thrown out for Wallace’s slow disappearance from the Steelers’ offense, you probably heard several of them on the Steelers Lounge podcasts. But now, we may have an explanation for the problems.

For the remaining 9 games of the season (counting the playoffs) Wallace had 32 catches for 419 yards with three touchdowns. He averaged only a little over three catches for 47 yards a game while averaging 13.1 yards per catch.

MIKE WALLACE’S BIG PLAY DROPOFF

Rec. Yds 40+ Plays

Before Roethlisberger injury 43 800 6

After Roethlisberger injury 32 419 1

Now it’s only a supposition, but it makes some sense that part of Wallace’s dropoff came because Roethlisberger didn’t have as much comfort going deep or arm strength to pull it off because of the injury.

Wallace had six plays of 40+ yards during the first eight games of the season. He had one after Roethlisberger’s injury.

I’m don’t think in any way that’s the only reason–teams were also clearly working very hard to make sure Wallace didn’t get behind the safeties–but it does potentially explain a lot.

If you take away the deep ball, Wallace goes from being one of the most frightening players in football to a useful, but containable No. 2 receiver. So I’ll be very interested to see how Roethlisberger looks throwing deep this preseason, whether Wallace is in camp or not.

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/08/big-bens-rotator-cuff-injury-bad-news-mike-wallace-steelers/

aggiebones
08-13-2012, 01:43 PM
when did Ben hurt his leg. I imagine that was more of a factor in his abilities.

Slapstick
08-13-2012, 01:56 PM
Neither injury stopped Antonio Brown from excelling...

Bens arm didn't look week when he dropped that 50 yard bomb ringh in Wallace's breadbasket in the playoff game...