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hawaiiansteel
07-29-2012, 10:38 PM
Steelers July 29th notes

posted by Dale Lolley

I finally got to sit and watch - OK, stand and watch - an entire practice Sunday for the first time at this camp without having to hustle somewhere else or have things abbreviated by the threat of rain.

I saw some pretty good things out there.

Second-year linebacker Chris Carter looks physically bigger on the field and his functional strength is improved. Once just a guy who could beat you with his quick first step, Carter can now lock onto somebody and force them where he wants to go instead of the other way around.

He did this in the backs on tight ends drills against David Johnson, then handled Leonard Pope.

Carter told me after practice that he's added eight to 10 pounds of muscle.

Being that he's starting opposite LaMarr Woodley with both James Harrison and Jason Worilds on the PUP list, it was a good move for Carter.

@ The Steelers had a physical pads practice and had some players dinged up at times.

Starting running back Isaac Redman took a shot early and sat out a few plays, but the most serious injury was to cornerback Keenan Lewis, who suffered an injury to the AC joint in his right shoulder during a sideline collision.

He could be sidelined a while, with Cortez Allen moving into his starting spot.

Offensive linemen Trai Essex and David DeCastro also suffered minor ankle sprains, but are not expected to miss any time.

Tight end Heath Miller (ankle) and punter Jeremy Kapinos (back) were joined on the sidelines Sunday by wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, who was given the day off by head coach Mike Tomlin rather than have him practice on field turf.

As for good news on the injury front, safety Damon Cromartie-Smith is expected to be activated from the PUP list on Wednesday. He has been out with a shoulder injury.

@ Funny moment of the day came when offensive tackle Max Starks was working with the other PUP list players on his conditioning.

After running back Rashard Mendenhall completed a cone drill with the ball in his hands, Starks did the same.

I told the guy next to me that if Starks had the ball in his hands on a play, something had gone terribly wrong.

Starks came to his senses on the next drill and declined the ball when Mendenhall offered it to him.

@ The catch of the day belonged to first-year receiver Jimmy Young.

Working against Ike Taylor, Young went to the ground down the sideline on the final play of practice to snare a perfect pass from Byron Leftwich, hanging onto the ball as his helmet popped off upon contact with the ground.

@ While Carter looked improved, both Johnson and Leonard Pope disappointed in the backs on tight ends drill.

The clear star was LaMarr Woodley, which is why they are paying him the big bucks. Woodley whipped everyone in sight.

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Djfan
07-29-2012, 11:00 PM
What the heck does this mean?


@ While Carter looked improved, both Johnson and Leonard Pope disappointed in the backs on tight ends drill.

pittpete
07-29-2012, 11:56 PM
probably meant to say backs and tight ends drill
lets hope Haley realizes that David Johnson is not a FB nor an NFL caliber TE.

Oviedo
07-30-2012, 07:53 AM
probably meant to say backs and tight ends drill
lets hope Haley realizes that David Johnson is not a FB nor an NFL caliber TE.

We can only hope someone comes to their senses and sends Johnson packing. The guy is good at nothing except consuming oxygen.

flippy
07-30-2012, 09:40 AM
We can only hope someone comes to their senses and sends Johnson packing. The guy is good at nothing except consuming oxygen.

I suspect he's not even good at that.

DBR96A
07-30-2012, 09:57 AM
I suspect he's not even good at that.

A vegetable like him can only consume carbon dioxide.

Slapstick
07-30-2012, 10:12 AM
I really think that the love affair with Johnson was mostly on the part of Arians...

After spending a draft pick and developing him for three years, I can understand the desire to tender him for his (cheap) original draft pick amount and see if a position change will do him good...

But, I'm thinking that Tomlin really wants Will Johnson to step up and take the job...

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
07-30-2012, 11:30 AM
probably meant to say backs and tight ends drill
lets hope Haley realizes that David Johnson is not a FB nor an NFL caliber TE.

I believe he is referring to the LBs on back and TEs drill.

Flasteel
07-30-2012, 11:40 AM
probably meant to say backs and tight ends drill
lets hope Haley realizes that David Johnson is not a FB nor an NFL caliber TE.
It's usually called the backs on backers drill. You can combine the backs with the TEs or have a session with just TEs on backers.

phillyesq
07-31-2012, 10:26 PM
Here are his notes from today:

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/

I've never been a big Plaxico fan, but if Wallace holds out for a while, he probably does make sense as a 4th WR.

pittpete
07-31-2012, 10:35 PM
@ LaMarr Woodley continues to dominate the backers on tight end blocking drill, regardless of who the Steelers put in front of him.

Don't know if that is because he's that good, the Steelers' tight ends behind Heath Miller aren't that strong or both. I'm leaning toward a little bit of both.



Tuesday, it was Woodley again completely rag-dolling David Johnson on three consecutive runs through the drill.

Woodley looks primed for a big year.


From Lolley

fordfixer
07-31-2012, 10:39 PM
Woodley again completely rag-dolling David Johnson on three consecutive runs through the drill. Woodley looks primed for a big year"

Good for Woodley. Why is David Johnson still on this roster?:HeadBanger

Captain Lemming
08-01-2012, 11:41 AM
Here are his notes from today:

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/





from that article:


"First-year quarterback Jerrod Johnson .....is a big kid (6-5, 251) but shows good mobility in the pocket. He could push Charlie Batch off the roster."


Wow that would give us the most gigantic QB lineup in league history.


Imagine sending them back to the 70s and having three QBs the size of LC Greenwood on a team

hawaiiansteel
08-04-2012, 01:35 AM
Thursday news and notes

posted by Dale Lolley

We might have seen a changing of the guard at cornerback Thursday in the final two plays of practice.

Working in the two-minute offense to close things out, Ben Roethlisberger lofted a 36-yard TD pass down the sideline to Antonio Brown, who got behind Keenan Lewis - the current frontrunner to start opposite Ike Taylor.

On the very next play, Cortez Allen, who along with Curtis Brown is fighting to unseat Lewis, leaped over rookie receiver Tony Clemons to pick off a Byron Leftwich pass along the sideline, showing the athleticism that has the coaching staff so excited about him.

Lewis has been battling a shoulder injury - and had to briefly leave practice Thursday after jacking up wideout David Gilreath at the line of scrimmage - but Allen's athletic ability is hard to overlook.

Coming out of the Citadel, Allen was supposed to be a project. At this point, the former fourth-round draft pick looks like the second coming of Ike Taylor - with hands.

@ LaMarr Woodley sat out practice again today and as a result, the linebackers vs. tight ends running drill was a walkover for the tight ends - who to this point have looked like five guys named Moe.

Jamie McCoy continues to shine in the one-on-one blocking drills, but until he lines up against Woodley, James Harrison or even Jason Worilds, we'll withhold judgement.

On the defensive side, the only linebacker who flashed was Adrian Robinson, a rookie out of Temple.

After beating pretty much everyone the team put in front of him, Robinson drew what Mike Tomlin called, "Varsity reps" against David Johnson.

Robinson also looked good there.

Mind you, Heath Miller has not been participating in these drills for the tight ends.

@ A moment after being chastised for not being physical enough on a stunt, rookie nose tackle Alameda Ta'amu brought the pain in a collision with Ramon Foster. That was 700 pounds of human being ramming into each other there and was not for the faint of heart.

Cam Heyward looks like a beast in those drills.

He jacked up Trai Essex so hard on a bull rush that it's possible Essex' ancestors felt it.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

hawaiiansteel
08-04-2012, 08:00 PM
Feisty play continues

FRIDAY, AUGUST 03, 2012
posted by Dale Lolley


Friday night's practice at Latrobe Stadium was highlighted by a second round on backs/tight ends on backers drill.

David Johnson and Barron Batch were the clear stars for the offense - with Johnson drawing praise after practice from head coach Mike Tomlin.

Batch didn't win his matchups as decisively as Johnson, but after a poor showing the first time the Steelers did these drills, he showed some real toughness and a willingness to finish blocks.

Isaac Redman has a groin injury and did not take part, joining LaMarr Woodley, James Harrison and Jason Worilds on the sidelines for this one.

Heath Miller also did not take part.

Defensively, Lawrence Timmons still brings the noise in this drill.

@ Ben Roethlisberger was held out tonight, as was Brett Keisel. Both were just given the night off.

@ Talked to Joey Porter during practice. He said his wife really likes Pittsburgh and has him looking for a house back here.

Porter would also like to get into coaching.

@ Cam Heyward and rookie Mike Adams had some Ohio State on Ohio State violence after Adams pancaked Heyward in a team drill.

Heyward apparently took offense to Adams going for the kill shot and the two squared off and started swinging.

Willie Colon stepped in to break it up, but then also started swinging at Adams.

@ Speaking of Colon, he got rolled up in a team drill - right before the fight - after Ramon Foster tossed someone into the back of his leg, tweaking his ankle.

It was a scary moment for Colon, who is coming off an Achilles' injury.

He went a few more plays, then shut things down.

Foster moved over to left guard and rookie David DeCastro took over at right guard.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

flippy
08-04-2012, 08:56 PM
@ Cam Heyward and rookie Mike Adams had some Ohio State on Ohio State violence after Adams pancaked Heyward in a team drill.

Heyward apparently took offense to Adams going for the kill shot and the two squared off and started swinging.

Willie Colon stepped in to break it up, but then also started swinging at Adams.


This might be the most exciting thing I've read so far. Adams wasn't my favorite pick. I wasn't sure how good he could be and he looks a little lazy to me from what I've seen of him. Sounds like he's got a little more fight in him than I thought.

He's got the size and athleticism to be a great tackle. I just wasn't sure he had the mean streak or the want to. Maybe I was wrong.

Shawn
08-05-2012, 12:56 AM
This might be the most exciting thing I've read so far. Adams wasn't my favorite pick. I wasn't sure how good he could be and he looks a little lazy to me from what I've seen of him. Sounds like he's got a little more fight in him than I thought.

He's got the size and athleticism to be a great tackle. I just wasn't sure he had the mean streak or the want to. Maybe I was wrong.

You were not wrong.

Captain Lemming
08-05-2012, 01:22 AM
@ Speaking of Colon, he got rolled up in a team drill - right before the fight - after Ramon Foster tossed someone into the back of his leg, tweaking his ankle.


Foster moved over to left guard .

Yeah Ramon aint gonna lose his job wo a fight.
He knows the rook is gonna take his job......time to throw people at Willie's fragile leg joints "by mistake". :)

lloydroid
08-05-2012, 06:14 PM
A vegetable like him can only consume carbon dioxide.

If the team was wise enough to FINALLY get rid of Arians, why are they not wise enough to realize one of his pet players stinks? I can't believe Hynoski was out there as an undrafted free agent and Pgh did nothing to attempt to sign the guy. What a huge mistake and he was right in their back yard. Such a foolish non move.

hawaiiansteel
08-06-2012, 01:39 AM
2012 Steelers Training Camp Observations: Part One

by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Aug 5, 2012

With Hines Ward retired the title for most people wearing your jersey has fallen to Troy Polamalu. There were lots of interesting Steelers gear that people were wearing. But my vote for the most impressive was that two people had Pro Bowl jerseys for James Harrison and Troy.

After a bit of rain (thunderstorms plague the area like clockwork around 5pm daily) some good live music to warm up the crowd, the long snappers and kickers arrived first. Nobody paid much attention. Then a caravan of school buses arrived with a police escort. The excitement building now. Bill Hargrove, the voice of the Steelers was the public address announcer. The organization was representing tonight.

Dressed somewhat uncharacteristically in an oversized gold sweat shirt, and a white cap, Tomlin was the first person introduced and walked out on to the field alone to a huge standing ovation. Make no mistake about it, Tomlin is a rock star with the fan base. He was then followed by the players and coaches who then fanned out in all directions to sign autographs. The players closest to me included Brett Keisel, Manny Sanders, Antonio Brown (another rock star), Jake Stoller and Cortez Allen.

Field goal kicking was next. Shaun Suisham was accurate with his attempts, hitting a range of kicks up to 48 yards out. Daniel Hrapmann definitely had the stronger leg, nailing a 53 yarder with plenty to spare.

As Rebecca Rollett noted during her visit earlier in the week, watching practice is like being at a three ring circus, decisions have to be made as to what to focus upon. I know I missed a lot. But here is what I got.

Injuries. Heath Miller participated fully. Keisel and Manny Sanders were held out.

Size. Last year I was really struck with how big Cam Heyward is. So I was impressed with how much he is dwarfed by Mike Adams, Marcus Gilbert and Leonard Pope. These are some large men. Much has been made of the relative lack of size of Sean Spence. This should not be an issue. Spence is clearly bigger than Larry Foote (in fact, I am amazed at how small Foote is compared to the other linebackers), and only slightly smaller than Stephenson Sylvester. When I watch him working next to Steve McLendon I can see why there would be some conversation about putting Ziggy Hood at nose tackle. He is really rather thick, powerfully built.

Fights. Only one of note. Heyward and, I believe, Ramon Foster got into it briefly with no decision. I was amused by the crowd reaction; pleased with the aggression, but a little torn over the fact that these 'brothers' would be abusive to each other. Save it for the Bengals.

I'm sure he was probably there but I didn't spot James Harrison. When the band was playing they would try to amp the crowd up be getting them to cheer at the mention of various Steelers by name. Based on that measure, Deebo is wildly popular. In fact, one thing about Steelers fans has not changed; as much as they like the various offensive players, their first love is defense. A band member stated that Harrison and Troy are "...the only two who still play this game the way it's supposed to be played. We don't care about the fines." That got a big ovation.

Quarterbacks. Ben was held out of the eleven on eleven segments but otherwise participated fully. Byron Leftwich seemed to take most of the snaps with the first unit, and didn't do badly. Jerrod Johnson is another really big guy who has an impressive arm, and this has emboldened some to suggest that this is indeed the last roundup for Charlie Batch. As the man says; not so fast my friend. While Leftwich looked good running the no huddle, Batch looked better, doing a fine job in finding the underneath receivers, and buying time, ala Ben with his mobility. He was consistently hitting the running backs and tight ends on short and medium patterns playing the part of the wiley veteran to perfection. It is also clear from crowd reaction that Charlie is also very popular. Representing the other side of the equation were a couple of 20 something young men who, while scanning a copy of the camp roster, stated that Batch was "87 years old." In a crowd favorite, the quarterbacks had a contest trying to lob passes into huge trash cans set up along the sidelines. Charlie and Ben were the winners of the competition.

Running backs. This was my first time seeing Baron Batch perform. Other than Redman he is the only back who does everything well. He is a much better blocker than Dwyer and, obviously, Rainey. He makes sharp cuts as a runner, and does not go down the first time he is hit. I don't see how you keep him off this team. Rainey is not as easy to tackle as you might imagine. He bounced outside well after absorbing some initial hits without going down. Dwyer ran well enough, but i think he gets Ben killed if they are relying upon him to block.

Wide receivers. Antonio Brown abused everyone matched up against him, including Ike Taylor and Keenan Lewis. He seems to be at the point where he can pretty much do whatever he wants out there. Jerricho Cotchery burned Will Allen badly for a touchdown catch during a seven on seven drill. I saw none of the 'Sweed-like' difficulties allleged to Tony Clemons, or any of the other receivers for that matter. I thought Derrick Williams and David Gilreath had particularly strong showings.

Defensive backs. Keenan Lewis intercepted a pass by Byron intended for Cotchery during the two minute drill. He also defended successfully against Brown on a deep pattern in seven on sevens. Perhaps the most impressive individual performance was when Terrence Frederick blew up Weslye Saunders after he received a pass from Batch. Saunders was otherwise very impressive. Myron Rolle mugged Clemons on a play in order to break up a pass. Andre Freeman and to a lesser extent, Will Allen struggled.

Offensive lineman. Mike Adams ran with the first group today. Foster, Colon, Gilbert and Pouncey rounded out the group, but, frankly a lot of combinations were used during the evening. I think its premature to read anything into this at this stage of the game. Heyward got the better of Colon during a one on one match up. I didn't notice De Castro at all, for what it's worth.

Defensive lineman. Heyward was the most impressive of this group. Ta'amu took some snaps at end. McLendon looked good as well.

Stevenson Sylvester seemed to trample some folks in the backs (and tight ends) on backers drill. I watching that I missed the action that was going on with receivers and defensive backs. But I heard a lot of crowd reaction to what was transpiring there.

A long, over two and a half hours, practice ended around 9:30. After the player caravan left the premises, fans were presented with a truly impressive fireworks display, ending at a little past 10 pm. It was my first time at the night practice and I would highly recommend it if you are planning a trip for next year.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/8/5/3219628/2012-steelers-training-camp-observations#storyjump

Steelerphile
08-06-2012, 05:29 AM
If the team was wise enough to FINALLY get rid of Arians, why are they not wise enough to realize one of his pet players stinks? I can't believe Hynoski was out there as an undrafted free agent and Pgh did nothing to attempt to sign the guy. What a huge mistake and he was right in their back yard. Such a foolish non move.

You and the rest of the sad troop of mindless DJ haters are the ones who STINK! Robotic herd regurgitation of this crap. Johnson is a big, strong, tough professional player. He practices hard and he plays hard. He does what the coaches ask him to do without complaint. He's getting better at FB and he still possesses some versatility to fill in at TE. He hasn't made the team for three years because he is siomebody's pet. And when he makes it this year, it will also because he has a value to the team. And when he does, I say on his behalf (because he's probably too cool to say this himself). Haters you can "Whiff my Johnson"

Oviedo
08-06-2012, 07:43 AM
You and the rest of the sad troop of mindless DJ haters are the ones who STINK! Robotic herd regurgitation of this crap. Johnson is a big, strong, tough professional player. He practices hard and he plays hard. He does what the coaches ask him to do without complaint. He's getting better at FB and he still possesses some versatility to fill in at TE. He hasn't made the team for three years because he is siomebody's pet. And when he makes it this year, it will also because he has a value to the team. And when he does, I say on his behalf (because he's probably too cool to say this himself). Haters you can "Whiff my Johnson"

OK. Sorry Mrs. Johnson if you are offended but that doesn't change the fact that no matter how hard he works or tries Johnson is neither a good TE or FB. There were probably 5-6 kids in the last draft who were college FBs who could've come in and done at least as well as Johnson has after 3 years.

phillyesq
08-06-2012, 10:01 AM
OK. Sorry Mrs. Johnson if you are offended but that doesn't change the fact that no matter how hard he works or tries Johnson is neither a good TE or FB. There were probably 5-6 kids in the last draft who were college FBs who could've come in and done at least as well as Johnson has after 3 years.

Yeah, I don't think the work ethic with Johnson has ever been the question. The question is ability. I don't dislike him as a player as much as some, but if the Steelers are going to use a FB, I'd prefer a true FB instead of somebody who is a jack of some trades and a master of none.

Oviedo
08-06-2012, 10:11 AM
Yeah, I don't think the work ethic with Johnson has ever been the question. The question is ability. I don't dislike him as a player as much as some, but if the Steelers are going to use a FB, I'd prefer a true FB instead of somebody who is a jack of some trades and a master of none.

I don't think it is ever an issue of personal dislike since none of us, or very few of us, have ever met let alone "know" this guys. It is an opinion of what we as fans see and with Johnson that is poor blocking whether leading the run or pass blocking. As a TE he looks more awkward catching a pass than Dan Krieder did which was as ugly as I have ever seen.

RuthlessBurgher
08-06-2012, 02:02 PM
@ Cam Heyward and rookie Mike Adams had some Ohio State on Ohio State violence after Adams pancaked Heyward in a team drill.

Heyward apparently took offense to Adams going for the kill shot and the two squared off and started swinging.

Willie Colon stepped in to break it up, but then also started swinging at Adams.

I highly doubt that Willie Colon was trying to punch his OL teammate Mike Adams...I think that was supposed to say the Colon started swinging at Cam Heyward.

Decleater
08-06-2012, 03:58 PM
Coach T says DJ is doing a great job so I'll have to go along with that.

hawaiiansteel
08-09-2012, 12:01 AM
What, who I'll be watching in the first preseason game

AUGUST 08, 2012
posted by Dale Lolley

The Steelers will play their first preseason game at Philadelphia Thursday night, and there's going to be plenty of notable action on the field.

Here are a few of the things and players I'll be watching in this one:

@ How does the new offense look under Todd Haley?

Traditionally, teams don't show a whole lot in the preseason. But the Steelers haven't had a completely new offense in Pittsburgh in quite some time.

To this point, the Steelers offense has featured more intermediate passes and throws to the running backs. We'll see if that carries over to the games.

@ How do the rookie offensive linemen look?

I've found it interesting that so many people have said that David DeCastro has been a bust in the first two weeks of training camp. That's ridiculous.

I've seen countless rookies take some time to get accustomed to the speed and power of the NFL. DeCastro has as well. But Maurkice Pouncey struggled with one-on-one matchups in his first camp as well. Then, when he got into game action, it was obvious he was a player.

The other side of the DeCastro coin is that Ramon Foster is having a very solid camp.

There was a big difference between DeCastro beating out Foster and Mike Adams pushing Trai Essex aside.

@ Does Cortez Allen take advantage of Keenan Lewis' shoulder injury?

Allen will likely start with Lewis being limited with the shoulder injury. If he can hold up in coverage against DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin, it will go a long way toward winning a starting job.

@ Who will step up at free safety?

To this point, Ryan Mundy has been so-so. The same goes for veteran Will Allen.

I'm anxious to see what a young kid like Robert Golden can do in game action. There's a spot to be won there behind Ryan Clark.

@ Will any of the receivers behind Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery show anything.

It's been up and down throughout training camp for the receivers behind those three.

At this point, I'd say Derrick Williams and Tyler Beiler have been the most consistent, but that's not saying much.

@ Can Chris Rainey win the starting return job.

Rainey is fast, but can he consistently catch punts? He flubbed one in practice on Tuesday, which has to be a concern. This is, after all, a kid that fumbled six punts in college.

I'm not as concerned about him as a kick return guy, but if he can't field punts, that's a problem.

Marquis Maze will also be given a chance. It's big for him because he hasn't shown a lot as a receiver.

@ Keep an eye on rookie punter Drew Butler, the son of former Bears kicker Kevin Butler.

Butler is the only healthy punter in camp right now with Jeremy Kapinos dealing with back issues.

Kapinos has gotten more surly as camp has gone on because Butler has looked pretty good. But can he do it on the big stage?

If so, Butler could win the job.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

Steelerphile
08-09-2012, 03:00 AM
Yeah, I don't think the work ethic with Johnson has ever been the question. The question is ability. I don't dislike him as a player as much as some, but if the Steelers are going to use a FB, I'd prefer a true FB instead of somebody who is a jack of some trades and a master of none.

I think the opinion of the people here is often tainted by a group mentality to get down on a particular player and is inaccurate and unfair. I disagree with you that he is "poor", That is what Oviedo says and some other board denizens say. It doesn't make it true. Oviedo has a track record of overly harsh criticisms and very seldom changes an opinion. Once he is down on a guy, he never changes. I think Johnson did a pretty good job blocking at FB last year. From all accounts, he didn't get any instructions on how, just went and did it. FB can be learned. How do you know some "true" college FB would be better than Johnson. College and the pros is a different animal. You don't see many "true" FBs in the NFL. And just like a good baseball teams needs some solid utility guys who can fill it at SS, 3B or even OF, when needed. A player who can do a solid job at different positions is an asset.

hawaiiansteel
08-12-2012, 08:38 PM
Eventful weekend

posted by Dale Lolley
SUNDAY, AUGUST 12, 2012

It was an eventful two days for the Steelers as they began their final week of work at Saint Vincent College.

First, due to a knee injury to second-round draft pick Mike Adams suffered in the preseason opener against Philadelphia, the team had to shuffle the deck with its offensive line.

Adams, who is expected to be out a week or so, had started against the Eagles at left tackle. With him out, the Steelers slide right tackle Marcus Gilbert over to left tackle.

That allowed them to keep rookie David DeCastro at right guard - where he will stay - and put Ramon Foster at right tackle.

With Willie Colon back at left guard, the Steelers' starting offensive line for their second preseason game will look like this from left to right: Gilbert, Colon, Maurkice Pouncey, DeCastro and Foster.

It will likely stay that way until Max Starks is ready to come off the PUP list, at which point, he will move to left tackle, sliding Gilbert back to the right side.

Starks is expected to be activated within the next two weeks after having offseason knee surgery.

@ With Isaac Redman (groin) and Jonathan Dwyer (shoulder) sitting out practices, the Steelers got more bad news at running back Sunday, when John Clay went down with a hip injury.

Already thin with Rashard Mendenhall on the PUP list, that left the Steelers with just Barron Batch, Chris Rainey and Will Johnson - now the starting fullback following David Johnson's season-ending knee injury against the Eagles - to carry the football.

That didn't work out so well in Sunday's goal-line drills as the Steelers tried to pound the ball into the end zone with Batch (210 pounds) and Rainey (179).

Rainey scored once by leaping over the top of the line, but the defense had the better of it overall.

@ For the second time in this training camp, Antonio Brown and Ike Taylor got into a fight, this time during a red zone drill.

This one got a little more heated than their previous dust up last week as the two continued to jaw at each other after practice.

Don't expect any long-lasting effects, however.

Brown and Taylor are both competitors and neither wants to give an inch. And they've been going against each other on a daily basis now for three weeks. It can get a little irritating.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/