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squidkid
07-28-2012, 10:03 AM
wallace reportedly offered 50 million over 5 years. wallace says no. agent gets nadda for all the time he has spent working on a deal and looks as tho' wont be making anything off wallace this year.............i love it!

Chadman
07-28-2012, 10:17 AM
You love it?

Really?

Personally, Chadman would 'love it' if the Steelers could find a way to keep one of their premier young talents.

You have a real vendetta against him, however.

Eddie Spaghetti
07-28-2012, 10:37 AM
just don't get the vitriol towards wallace by some.

he wants to be paid well for his services. I'm sure everyone here would jump up and volunteer to work for less money than they could get elsewhere.

grotonsteel
07-28-2012, 11:29 AM
just don't get the vitriol towards wallace by some.

he wants to be paid well for his services. I'm sure everyone here would jump up and volunteer to work for less money than they could get elsewhere.

+1
I agree. 10 words.

steelfin
07-28-2012, 11:36 AM
just don't get the vitriol towards wallace by some.

he wants to be paid well for his services. I'm sure everyone here would jump up and volunteer to work for less money than they could get elsewhere.

With that being said, do you think 5 Year / 50 Million was a fair deal to Wallace? Assuming that is even true....Apparently Wallace doesn't... :-)

I want Wallace to sign with the Steelers, but if that deal was offered to him and he passed...then it is time for him to move on. I just don' t see the Steelers paying him more than that...

aggiebones
07-28-2012, 12:54 PM
We don't know the contract was set up. We don't really know what the negotiations were like.

DukieBoy
07-28-2012, 01:05 PM
+1
I agree. 10 words.

+1x2

and B+ about Wallace; we are a better offense with him on the team.

steelz09
07-28-2012, 01:35 PM
With that being said, do you think 5 Year / 50 Million was a fair deal to Wallace? Assuming that is even true....Apparently Wallace doesn't... :-)

I want Wallace to sign with the Steelers, but if that deal was offered to him and he passed...then it is time for him to move on. I just don' t see the Steelers paying him more than that...

I would obviously like Wallace to sign but I think 5 yr / 50 mil for a one-trick poney is a good deal. I think Wallace and his agent are overestimating his worth. There were a lot of teams that needed a proven receiver before draft. The Steelers put Wallace out there as bait before the draft, for a 1st rounder and not one team bit.

hawaiiansteel
07-28-2012, 01:36 PM
wallace reportedly offered 50 million over 5 years.

I never saw this anywhere, do you have a link?

Oviedo
07-28-2012, 01:52 PM
Wallace is obviously looking for ridiculous money. The per year value that Brown just took is about what Wallace is worth. The Steelers don't screw players they want to keep so I'll strongly believe it is Wallace who is being unreasonable.

hawaiiansteel
07-28-2012, 01:55 PM
Wallace is obviously looking for ridiculous money. The per year value that Brown just took is about what Wallace is worth. The Steelers don't screw players they want to keep so I'll strongly believe it is Wallace who is being unreasonable.

I completely agree with you Ovi, looks like Wallace has just priced himself out of Pittsburgh.

squidkid
07-28-2012, 02:04 PM
You love it?

Really?

Personally, Chadman would 'love it' if the Steelers could find a way to keep one of their premier young talents.

You have a real vendetta against him, however.

the steelers have kept one of their premier young talents by offering a more than fair contract to a player that accepted it and wants to be a steeler.
my vendetta against wallace is the same i would have against any player that places himself over the team, fans and organization.
i never stated that the player shouldnt or doesnt have the right to try to make as much money as they possibly can, however by doing so, when you hurt my team from succeeding. i think they are a POS

ikestops85
07-28-2012, 08:34 PM
I completely agree with you Ovi, looks like Wallace has just priced himself out of Pittsburgh.

If they offered Wallace the $50 million/5 year contract with about 18 million guaranteed then I agree the Steelers aren't going to keep Wallace. That is a very fair offer considering what others signed for this year. As much as I hate it I think we are saying bye bye to MW. :(

Oviedo
07-28-2012, 09:19 PM
the steelers have kept one of their premier young talents by offering a more than fair contract to a player that accepted it and wants to be a steeler.
my vendetta against wallace is the same i would have against any player that places himself over the team, fans and organization.
i never stated that the player shouldnt or doesnt have the right to try to make as much money as they possibly can, however by doing so, when you hurt my team from succeeding. i think they are a POS

I totally agree. I don't understand people who say they are fans of the organization and then defend a player that is trying to screw the organization over by blowing the top off the salary cap. Either you love the team or they are blinded by man love for a player who like all past Steelers players will prove to be just another replaceable carbon unit.

williar
07-28-2012, 11:44 PM
I don't feel good about our receiving corp minus Wallace. He was the star! I like Brown, Sanders and Cotchery but they ain't scaring nobody!

Slapstick
07-29-2012, 12:20 AM
I don't feel good about our receiving corp minus Wallace. He was the star! I like Brown, Sanders and Cotchery but they ain't scaring nobody!

I don't care if they are scary...they just need to be effective...

Roethlisberger is the key...as long as Ben plays well, the Steelers will have a chance to win...

Eich
07-29-2012, 01:12 AM
I don't feel good about our receiving corp minus Wallace. He was the star! I like Brown, Sanders and Cotchery but they ain't scaring nobody!

They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.

Oviedo
07-29-2012, 08:43 AM
They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.

Exact point I was going to make.

Slappy hit the nail on the head. It is up to Ben, and Haley, because if they increase the distribution of the ball to the RBs and TEs then we will probably be a more effective offense because those are higher percentage of success plays than going bombs away to Wallace.

Chadman
07-29-2012, 10:07 AM
the steelers have kept one of their premier young talents by offering a more than fair contract to a player that accepted it and wants to be a steeler.
my vendetta against wallace is the same i would have against any player that places himself over the team, fans and organization.
i never stated that the player shouldnt or doesnt have the right to try to make as much money as they possibly can, however by doing so, when you hurt my team from succeeding. i think they are a POS

Please explain how Wallace's wage demands have hurt the Steelers chances of winning- remembering that you said he has the right to make as much money as he can.

What is a 'fair' price for Wallace? The one YOU feel is appropriate? Or should we use Antonio Brown as the measuring stick? Maybe we should. Brown has had 1 years success. This entitled him to a contract extension of 5 years for $42.5 million.

Wallace has had 3 years of success. Should he get 3 times as much? Is that 'fair'?

Did Ben's $100+ million contract hamper the teams ability to sign other big price players? If yes- are you equally ticked at Ben? And if no, how can Wallace's desired contract impact the team any more than Ben's does?

Chadman
07-29-2012, 10:08 AM
I totally agree. I don't understand people who say they are fans of the organization and then defend a player that is trying to screw the organization over by blowing the top off the salary cap. Either you love the team or they are blinded by man love for a player who like all past Steelers players will prove to be just another replaceable carbon unit.

How is Wallace trying to 'screw the organisation'?

Chadman
07-29-2012, 10:12 AM
They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.
That group had Hines Ward in his prime, with multiple seasons of success under his belt.

The current group has 2 guys with very little experience & a guy that is no danger of starting anywhere in the NFL.

Brown, for all the love we give him, has got to back up last years performance before he gets annointed anywhere near Hines Ward class.

Chadman
07-29-2012, 10:13 AM
They're more scary than Hines Ward, Randel El and Cedric Wilson and we got a ring with that crew.

And that group had Bettis & Willie Parker to lean on. Our group has Redman &....Dwyer? Batch?

Slapstick
07-29-2012, 10:28 AM
And that group had Bettis & Willie Parker to lean on. Our group has Redman &....Dwyer? Batch?

If the new NFL has taught us anything, it is that teams can make (and win) SB without great skill players...except for the QB...

The Saints made and won the SB with one 1,000 yard WR and an effective ground game (with no 1000 yard rusher)...

Chadman
07-29-2012, 10:39 AM
If the new NFL has taught us anything, it is that teams can make (and win) SB without great skill players...except for the QB...

The Saints made and won the SB with one 1,000 yard WR and an effective ground game (with no 1000 yard rusher)...

That effective ground game was the 6th best rushing attack in the NFL. Are Redman & co going to reach those heights?

squidkid
07-29-2012, 11:36 AM
Please explain how Wallace's wage demands have hurt the Steelers chances of winning- remembering that you said he has the right to make as much money as he can.

What is a 'fair' price for Wallace? The one YOU feel is appropriate? Or should we use Antonio Brown as the measuring stick? Maybe we should. Brown has had 1 years success. This entitled him to a contract extension of 5 years for $42.5 million.

Wallace has had 3 years of success. Should he get 3 times as much? Is that 'fair'?

Did Ben's $100+ million contract hamper the teams ability to sign other big price players? If yes- are you equally ticked at Ben? And if no, how can Wallace's desired contract impact the team any more than Ben's does?

c'mon chadman,
how can you compare a qb to a wr? how many franchises have won superbowls or become dynasties because of a wr? how many times during the nfl draft have you heard all the analyst state "he's a franchise wr". there's a reason everybody in the league knows that they need a great qb to compete for a superbowl consistantly so you cant compare giving a wr 10 million the same as a qb 10 million per year.
when i talk about hurting my team i am referring to not being able to keep or sign players in the future because so much cap money is tied up in one or two players that dont necessarily deserve it.
i think brown got more than he should have and i stated that in a previous post. i said it was a gamble giving him that much so soon and worried it was a kneejerk reaction to wallace. i assume that you would agree with giving wallace 3 times as much brown got seeing you brought it up? you dont think that would hurt this team down the road?

Slapstick
07-29-2012, 11:56 AM
That effective ground game was the 6th best rushing attack in the NFL. Are Redman & co going to reach those heights?

Their leading rusher had less than 800 yards...Redman had almost 500 last year with Mendenhall getting the lion's share of the carries...

With a stable of young RBs and an upgraded offensive line, it isn't far-fetched, IMO...

flippy
07-29-2012, 12:35 PM
Wally's agent could probably care less. If he has to wait a year and gets a monster contract next year, he still wins. So does Wally.

BURGH86STEEL
07-29-2012, 12:48 PM
Wally's agent could probably care less. If he has to wait a year and gets a monster contract next year, he still wins. So does Wally.

Yep, play for 2.7 million or less (6 games) or take a chance to reach free agency and possibly sign a contract with 15 or 20+ million guaranteed. Similar to Vincent Jackson, I think I'd take my chances with free agency.

squidkid
07-29-2012, 01:19 PM
Yep, play for 2.7 million or less (6 games) or take a chance to reach free agency and possibly sign a contract with 15 or 20+ million guaranteed. Similar to Vincent Jackson, I think I'd take my chances with free agency.


or show up to camp and have the negotiations continue with more than likely being offered 15-20 million guarateed this year and not have to worry about getting 'injured' those last 6 weeks of the season and lose out on millions forever. i'd take my chances on the steelers doing the right thing(like they always have) to the players that they want for a long time.

NJ-STEELER
07-29-2012, 04:47 PM
just don't get the vitriol towards wallace by some.

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agreed

and when ward held out even with a signed contract, he didnt receive this much crap about it

Chadman
07-29-2012, 06:20 PM
c'mon chadman,
how can you compare a qb to a wr? how many franchises have won superbowls or become dynasties because of a wr? how many times during the nfl draft have you heard all the analyst state "he's a franchise wr". there's a reason everybody in the league knows that they need a great qb to compete for a superbowl consistantly so you cant compare giving a wr 10 million the same as a qb 10 million per year.
when i talk about hurting my team i am referring to not being able to keep or sign players in the future because so much cap money is tied up in one or two players that dont necessarily deserve it.
i think brown got more than he should have and i stated that in a previous post. i said it was a gamble giving him that much so soon and worried it was a kneejerk reaction to wallace. i assume that you would agree with giving wallace 3 times as much brown got seeing you brought it up? you dont think that would hurt this team down the road?

Good point- how do you compare a QB & WR? You don't. So we have to compare Wallace to other WR's. By comparison to other WR's at the same point in their careers, Wallace & his agent are right- he's Top 10. He's right up there with Fitz, Megatron etc as far as production on the field goes.

So what is 'fair' value for a guy that has placed himself among the elite in his position?

By comparison, the 1 year success story just recieved what many on here think Wallace should have gotten.

How is that 'fair'?

Chadman
07-29-2012, 06:22 PM
Their leading rusher had less than 800 yards...Redman had almost 500 last year with Mendenhall getting the lion's share of the carries...

With a stable of young RBs and an upgraded offensive line, it isn't far-fetched, IMO...

Fingers crossed that this is right. But Chadman is not convinced as yet.