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steelnavy
07-27-2012, 01:07 PM
Ok, had to start a new thread with a fresh question regarding Mike's hold out. A logical person would assume that Wallace has drafted a plan that he thinks will work in his favor at some point down the road. He now missed the opening of training camp...

Given that the Steelers have a history of NOT negotiating until a player shows up for training camp, what is his ace in the hole? If you were him, how do you envision this turning out in your favor?

IMO, the only thing I can see him holding out for is the hope that the new receivers don't pan out and the offense sputters because of it, and the Steelers cave. Other than that, every day he misses from here on out is only hurting his chance to gel with the offense and showcase his stuff for next year's bidding war.

I dont see another reason for him to hold out, and if he has no plan but waiting until the last six games to sign, I hope that Tomlin keeps his butt on the inactive roster or keeps him on the bench until the season is over. Let him take those highlight reels to his next big money gig...

Sugar
07-27-2012, 02:09 PM
I don't know what his plan is either. There has been a lot of talk, but not much coming from either side about the details of their negotiations. Either way, I hope that they can come to a resolution because I believe he gives the Steelers a better chance to win than without him. That said, if he doesn't show then it's his career and he's got to live with the fallout.

Oviedo
07-27-2012, 02:41 PM
His plan appears to be to prove how much he is clueless about contract negotiations.

Slapstick
07-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Ok, had to start a new thread with a fresh question regarding Mike's hold out. A logical person would assume that Wallace has drafted a plan that he thinks will work in his favor at some point down the road. He now missed the opening of training camp...

Given that the Steelers have a history of NOT negotiating until a player shows up for training camp, what is his ace in the hole? If you were him, how do you envision this turning out in your favor?

IMO, the only thing I can see him holding out for is the hope that the new receivers don't pan out and the offense sputters because of it, and the Steelers cave. Other than that, every day he misses from here on out is only hurting his chance to gel with the offense and showcase his stuff for next year's bidding war.

I dont see another reason for him to hold out, and if he has no plan but waiting until the last six games to sign, I hope that Tomlin keeps his butt on the inactive roster or keeps him on the bench until the season is over. Let him take those highlight reels to his next big money gig...

The Steelers have already set the precedent. They must follow through because Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders are watching how Mike Wallace is being dealt with very closely...after all, they are both RFAs after this season...

If the Steelers indulge Wallace's holdout, they can expect two more holdout WRs next season...

costanza2k1
07-27-2012, 04:01 PM
The only thing he can do at this point is suck it up and show up to camp or hold out for 11 games, play 6 and be on his way. It's a shame he's not listening to his agent or his he listening too much?

squidkid
07-27-2012, 04:48 PM
Ok, had to start a new thread with a fresh question regarding Mike's hold out. A logical person would assume that Wallace has drafted a plan that he thinks will work in his favor at some point down the road. He now missed the opening of training camp...

Given that the Steelers have a history of NOT negotiating until a player shows up for training camp, what is his ace in the hole? If you were him, how do you envision this turning out in your favor?

IMO, the only thing I can see him holding out for is the hope that the new receivers don't pan out and the offense sputters because of it, and the Steelers cave. Other than that, every day he misses from here on out is only hurting his chance to gel with the offense and showcase his stuff for next year's bidding war.

I dont see another reason for him to hold out, and if he has no plan but waiting until the last six games to sign, I hope that Tomlin keeps his butt on the inactive roster or keeps him on the bench until the season is over. Let him take those highlight reels to his next big money gig...

i wouldnt want to see tomlin bench him. i would make him work for his salary. maybe we could trade him or maybe wallace gets hurt those last 6 games and he wont make the big FA money the next year.

Sugar
07-27-2012, 05:34 PM
i wouldnt want to see tomlin bench him. i would make him work for his salary. maybe we could trade him or maybe wallace gets hurt those last 6 games and he wont make the big FA money the next year.

I agree that it would be best to work him- the team will be better with him playing. Heck, it could work to our advantage with him coming on in the playoff chase rested.

flippy
07-27-2012, 05:40 PM
If he holds out for 10 games, I hope Tomlin plays him on Special Teams. :)

steelnavy
07-28-2012, 12:17 AM
I agree that it would be best to work him- the team will be better with him playing. Heck, it could work to our advantage with him coming on in the playoff chase rested.

While I agree that he would add fresh legs for a playoff run, if he held out until the last six games then I would not want to see him in the uniform at all. I know its a business and he needs to look out for himself, but by that point he would have shown that he doesn't care about being a Steeler and I would consider him a cancer on the team. I believe in loyalty above all else (when its earned).

hawaiiansteel
07-28-2012, 02:00 AM
I agree that it would be best to work him- the team will be better with him playing. Heck, it could work to our advantage with him coming on in the playoff chase rested.

I'm fairly positive that if Wallace decided to sit out the first ten games of the season and only return for the last six games the Steelers would opt to pay him to stay away from the team and place him on the inactive list.

8467thekraken
07-28-2012, 08:16 AM
Just sucks how it came so unraveled. Not sure if this can even be salvageable.

First Wallace holds out.
The Steelers don't reduce his pay.
Holds out some more.
Steelers break off contract negotiations
Steelers extend Brown.

I hope Wallace has a bucket of humility to soak his head in. That would be the only way this works out.

Certainly don't need this crap hangin around during the season.

Aaarrgh!

calmkiller
07-28-2012, 09:03 AM
It's the same as Hines years ago, OU difference is we all knew Hines wanted to stay here. I am not sure if Wallace wants to be here or not.

squidkid
07-28-2012, 09:56 AM
I'm fairly positive that if Wallace decided to sit out the first ten games of the season and only return for the last six games the Steelers would opt to pay him to stay away from the team and place him on the inactive list.


could they make him practice(and possibly get hurt) and make him inactive for those last 6 games?

hawaiiansteel
07-28-2012, 01:43 PM
could they make him practice(and possibly get hurt) and make him inactive for those last 6 games?

they could but it's more likely they wouldn't want Wallace and his attitude anywhere near the team.

Sugar
07-28-2012, 05:43 PM
It's the same as Hines years ago, OU difference is we all knew Hines wanted to stay here. I am not sure if Wallace wants to be here or not.

Well, Hines was also already under contract and just wanted more.