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phillyesq
05-08-2012, 11:57 AM
Per Jason LaCanfora, the Steelers were going to trade up to the Jets spot for DeCastro, with the Jets trading back for Coples. Jets backed out after the Seahawks pick.

Very fortunate for the Steelers. That move probably would have cost at least their third round pick, if not an additional pick.


Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora
Steelers still got their man, DeCastro, in their original spot. Will be interesting to see how careers of Irvin and Coples pan out.


Jets were gonna take Irvin or Coples in the mid-20s, and Steelers would take DeCastro at 16. Once Seattle took Irvin at 15, Jets pulled out





(http://www.planetsteelers.com/#!/JasonLaCanfora)
Interesting note on Bruce Irvin, the 1st 1st rounder to sign. Jets and Steelers had a draft-deal essentially done for NY to drop back ...

steelblood
05-08-2012, 12:12 PM
Yeah, that is not surprising. It worked out very well for us though. Thanks again, Seattle!:wink:

RuthlessBurgher
05-08-2012, 12:26 PM
That's the original trade partner that I had worked out months ago. I was suggesting we give up our 1st and 2nd in exchange for the Jets 1st and 4th. The numbers worked out almost perfectly according to the trade value chart (1.16 + 4.108 = 1078 pts. while 1.24 + 2.56 = 1080 pts.). However, the Jets traded their 4th away in the Tebow deal, putting the kibosh on that possible deal (and making me scramble to create new mock drafts even though we all knew that DeCastro is who I wanted all along).

I wonder what deal the Steelers and Jets actually had in place? I doubt the team would have been willing to part with its 2nd round pick like I would have. We did make a very similar jump in 2003, moving up to the same #16 slot from even further back than 24 (we were picking 27th that year) and we only had to give up a 3rd and a 6th in the deal. According to the trade value chart, we fleeced the Chiefs in that deal, because 1.16 = 1000 pts. while 1.27 + 3.92 + 6.200 = 824.4 pts.). I'd imagine that the Jets would have wanted more than that.

Perhaps something similar to the Santonio deal in 2006 (1, 3, 4 to move from 32 to 25). In that case, we gave up more according to the trade chart than we received back, although not by a huge amount or anything (1.25 = 720 pts. while 1.32 + 3.96 + 4.129 = 749 pts.).

In any case, it ended up working out absolutely perfectly for us (and it's scary to think how much an awful pick like Irvin to Seattle at #15 had to do with us ending up with this incredible draft haul, and the only trading required was giving up our 6th rounder to move up in the 4th for Ta'Amu).

steelerkeylargo
05-08-2012, 12:56 PM
http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/37317-Steelers-tried-to-trade-up

You heard it here first.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-08-2012, 01:11 PM
Making that trade in the first probably means that we don't have the ammo to move up and grab Ta'amu in the fourth - without using a future pick which Colbert has never done.

grotonsteel
05-08-2012, 01:12 PM
KC in his NFL Draft PC had said there were several players they would try to trade up for. David Decastro was one of them. Donta Hightower must be another one. Not sure who else were on Steelers radar. I would love to see Steelers draft board.

I am glad the way draft shaped up. Bruce Irvin at #15 was the key. Steelers got their player without any trade.

grotonsteel
05-08-2012, 01:14 PM
Yeah, that is not surprising. It worked out very well for us though. Thanks again, Seattle!:wink:

Great 2033 Mock Draft SteelBlood..!!

I agree Bruce Irvin at #15 was the key.

pfelix73
05-08-2012, 01:17 PM
I've read and heard all kinds of things out of local media. One of them was that they wanted to trade up for Poe. Another was that they were gonna be happy to just sit there and take Hightower. In the end, they got a deal with a top 15 talent at 24. So, whatever the truth is/was only Colbert/ Tomlin really know....

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-08-2012, 02:06 PM
We know that Decastro was above Hightower on the board, but I wonder what they would have done had Reiff also fallen to #24.

RuthlessBurgher
05-08-2012, 02:09 PM
We know that Decastro was above Hightower on the board, but I wonder what they would have done had Reiff also fallen to #24.

If both DeCastro and Reiff were there, I would have still taken DeCastro.

If the Lions took DeCastro instead of Reiff, and we were choosing between Reiff and Hightower, I would have gone with Reiff.

pfelix73
05-08-2012, 03:47 PM
From what I heard, it was gonna be Hightower if DeCastro was gone- then when we went with DeCastro, NE moved up right away to get Hightower. Then B-more moved back... I think Seattle taking that guy from WV really helped us land DeCastro. That to me was a shocker...

Shawn
05-08-2012, 04:24 PM
Even though Irvin probably could have been had later, I have a feeling that he will turn out to be a very special player.

Steelersrock151
05-08-2012, 05:10 PM
Even though Irvin probably could have been had later, I have a feeling that he will turn out to be a very special player.

The whole reason that the Jets were willing to trade back was because both Irvin and Couples were available, and they could take either, as long as both were on the board. Since Seattle took Irvin, Jets had to stay in place to take Couples. If Seattle had taken Couples, therefore, The Jets would have stayed put and taken Irvin.
I don't think Irvin was going to last as long as a lot of people think he was going to last. The Jets aren't the only other team that had Irvin as a first round talent, although the others were later in the first round.
As much as people want to get on Seattle for taking Irvin when they did, if they hadn't he wouldn't have lasted to our pick at 24.

RuthlessBurgher
05-15-2012, 07:18 PM
A snippet from the latest Steelers Digest which discusses what the prices were for moving up for DeCastro (I still get the actual paper and not the online version, so I actually have to type these paragraphs instead of cutting and pasting):


DeCastro was so clearly the guy that the Steelers started the process of trying to trade up to make sure they got him. As they investigated that process, they were finding that the cost to move up was either a No. 3 plus a No. 5, or a No. 4 plus a No. 6, depending upon how high up in the round they decided to go. At one point, the price was a little high and then at another point a potential trading partner couldn't be found, and on top of it all teams were turning in their picks in rapid succession.

Once the Patriots selected Jones, there were two picks remaining before the Steelers' turn, and both DeCastro and LB Dont'a Hightower were still on the board. Then when the Browns took Weeden, and the Detroit Lions immediately sent their card to the podium with OT Riley Reiff's name on it, the Steelers immediately followed by sending their card with DeCastro's name on it. The pick took literally a minute for the Steelers to make.

Crash
05-15-2012, 11:27 PM
From the time Megatron announced the Lions pick until the Steelers pick was turned in? It took 31 seconds....LOL

hawaiiansteel
05-18-2012, 03:40 AM
never thought I would say this, but Seattle Seahawks, I LOVE you!

557

RuthlessBurgher
05-18-2012, 10:11 AM
Speaking of the Seahawks, it's interesting that we just drafted 3 guys who were impressionable teens growing up in the Pacific Northwest when we beat Seattle in SBXL (DeCastro, Ta'Amu, and Paulson).