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Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 12:43 PM
Nice!! Love this draft!

birtikidis
04-28-2012, 12:44 PM
I like this pick. Woulda preferred chapman though

Steel Life
04-28-2012, 12:44 PM
Steeler trade up with the Redskins to get him - swapped picks in the 6th.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 12:45 PM
Back in October I was all over this guy. To get him in the 4th is really great value. He is going to be a force. This is the type of guy who can keep LB's clean. He needs some work but the Steelers will get it out of him.

pittpete
04-28-2012, 12:50 PM
Nice pick,welcome
Loving this draft
Now trade up again and grab a safety George Iloka:tt2

pittpete
04-28-2012, 12:51 PM
lol dee i just posted the same thing
Geat minds think alike bud:wink:

Chadman
04-28-2012, 12:56 PM
Well, that's how you keep Sean Spence clean... hard to fault that pick- again.

Steelers are on fire here.

Prowler
04-28-2012, 12:56 PM
Horrible, horrible pick. Baylor rushed for nearly 500 yards against this turd in the bowl game. They also passed for another 300 and put up 67 points in that game.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-28-2012, 12:58 PM
Good draft so far. Getting quality players at positions of need!

Now we need RB-SS maybe WR-TE-FS-QB-FB possibly P-K.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 12:58 PM
lol dee i just posted the same thing
Geat minds think alike bud:wink:

This guy had a first round grade for a long time. I was worried about hiss size but when i saw what he actually checked in at the combine I was surprized because early in the college football season he was listed at 6 ft 4 to 6 ft 5. But actually he is like 6 ft 2 1/2. And he is a a load. We have to keep everything in perspective in being crtiical of his flaws. We have a two down player here. But that is all the Steelers need for their NT.

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
Make no mistake. This guy is a project. He will need a couple of years. Hopefully Hampton has a couple more in him.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:01 PM
Horrible, horrible pick. Baylor rushed for nearly 500 yards against this turd in the bowl game. They also passed for another 300 and put up 67 points in that game.

Can you name another quality player on the Washington Huskies defense from this past year?

But if you wanna put that all on Ta'amu then cool.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Make no mistake. This guy is a project. He will need a couple of years. Hopefully Hampton has a couple more in him.

I dont think so much. I believe this time next year he is the starter. He can already do the one proimary function a 3-4 NT needs to do. Garner two blocks. Again folks we are talking about a two down player. The big project that some seem to think is way over valued at this position.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:10 PM
All the experts (ESPN and NFL Network), seem to love this pick and think the Steelers got a steal in round 4 with him. And all the tape they just showed of him (versus Nebraska, UCLA, and Oregon), he was flat out unblockable.

I'll be the first to say it...the Steelers got a future pro bowler in Alameda Ta'Amu.

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:10 PM
This is the same guy you thought should be our first round pick in January. I am not downing the pick....I think this is where he should have gone. I would have rather had Thompson in the 3rd though.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:12 PM
And one other thing, the Pittsburgh Steelers traded up to get him in the 4th round. To them they obviously dont see him as this huge project. This wasnt a 6th or 7th round pick here. It cost them to move up to get him.

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:14 PM
And one other thing, the Pittsburgh Steelers traded up to get him in the 4th round. To them they obviously dont see him as this huge project. This wasnt a 6th or 7th round pick here. It cost them to move up to get him.

They traded up for Daniel Sepulveda too!!! Great point!!

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
This is the same guy you thought should be our first round pick in January. I am not downing the pick....I think this is where he should have gone. I would have rather had Thompson in the 3rd though.

That is not true. In October I was all over this guy and suggested this could be our number one pick. But not in January. And why? Becuase of the injury concerns ( he checked out with some concerns in his knee).

Chadman
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
Trade up or down- SKL's point is well taken- Round 4 is good value with Ta'amu.

Could he be a Pro Bowler? Why not? There's a chance. If he's an effective run stuffer & allows the LB's to be Pro Bowlers, Chadman will be happy.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
They traded up for Daniel Sepulveda too!!! Great point!!

Was the issue with Daniel Sepulveda he wasnt a good player for the Steelers or the fact that he was injured several times?

Crash
04-28-2012, 01:17 PM
He's WIDE...massive. Casey is basically all belly. Ta'amue is a huge body. Get him 2 down ready and let the LBs run loose.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
Trade up or down- SKL's point is well taken- Round 4 is good value with Ta'amu.

Could he be a Pro Bowler? Why not? There's a chance. If he's an effective run stuffer & allows the LB's to be Pro Bowlers, Chadman will be happy.

Ta'Amu had a first round grade for a long time but dropped because of medical concerns.

I am not arguing that the 4th round isnt good value. I agree. It is tremendous value in my mind. I believe he isnt the project that SKL wants us to believe.

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Was the issue with Daniel Sepulveda he wasnt a good player for the Steelers or the fact that he was injured several times?

The issue was he was a Punter. Just because they trade up for a guy doesn't solidify his talent. See Ricardo Coclough if you love Sepulveda!!

kindlecatsb'ng
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
And one other thing, the Pittsburgh Steelers traded up to get him in the 4th round. To them they obviously dont see him as this huge project. This wasnt a 6th or 7th round pick here. It cost them to move up to get him.

Just got on here today. What did they trade to get this player? Tnx

Snatch98
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Just got on here today. What did they trade to get this player? Tnx

Our 6th round draft selection.

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Ta'Amu had a first round grade for a long time but dropped because of medical concerns.

I am not arguing that the 4th round isnt good value. I agree. It is tremendous value in my mind. I believe he isnt the project that SKL wants us to believe.

Never said the value isn't there. I said he was a 4th rounder all along....go back and look at the threads we had on him from last winter. He has weight and balance issues. He is not pro ready!!!

flippy
04-28-2012, 01:25 PM
I liked Champman better, but am happy with either of these guys. Good pick KC. This draft is looking pretty solid. Better than usual.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:26 PM
The issue was he was a Punter. Just because they trade up for a guy doesn't solidify his talent. See Ricardo Coclough if you love Sepulveda!!

You are twisting words here. You said he was a big time project and a couple of years a way. I dont think the Steelers agree with that based on their actions.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Never said the value isn't there. I said he was a 4th rounder all along....go back and look at the threads we had on him from last winter. He has weight and balance issues. He is not pro ready!!!

Ok how many players in a first round are actually pro ready? Terry Bradshaw was the number one overal pick was he pro ready?

Again, we are talking about a two down player. He isnt as far away as you think. Vince Wilfork's weight isnt an issue so you can remove that one.

ramblinjim
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
I think in my mock draft I had this kid in the second. Obviously I love him in the 4th. Agree that he's a two down player, eat up some space big boy and let the LB'ers roam free!

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:38 PM
Ok how many players in a first round are actually pro ready? Terry Bradshaw was the number one overal pick was he pro ready?

Again, we are talking about a two down player. He isnt as far away as you think. Vince Wilfork's weight isnt an issue so you can remove that one.

We aren't talking about a 1st Round future HOF like Wilfork. Ta'Amu has been as much as 390. Why can't you just admit this is about you wanting him in the 1st round.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:45 PM
We aren't talking about a 1st Round future HOF like Wilfork. Ta'Amu has been as much as 390. Why can't you just admit this is about you wanting him in the 1st round.

So all the Dont'a Hightower threads and Cordy Glenn threads and me wanting them in the first round has slipped your mind?

In October I wanted Ta' amu but I guess you dont know he had medical concerns? I also started a thread back in October wanting David DeCastro for the Steelers in the first round. What's your point?

So you knock Ta'amu for weight issues but it's ok for Vince Wilfork to be as big because he is a future hall of famer?

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 01:48 PM
No SKL what this is all about is you do not like Ta'amu. You havent liked him from day one. I did. And obviously so did the Steelers. Now you are going to have to back slide for the next 10 years as Ta'amu dominates for the Steelers.

SS Laser
04-28-2012, 01:51 PM
Fight nice girls!:tt2

steelerkeylargo
04-28-2012, 01:51 PM
So all the Dont'a Hightower threads and Cordy Glenn threads and me wanting them in the first round has slipped your mind?

In October I wanted Ta' amu but I guess you dont know he had medical concerns? I also started a thread back in October wanting David DeCastro for the Steelers in the first round. What's your point?

So you knock Ta'amu for weight issues but it's ok for Vince Wilfork to be as big because he is a future hall of famer?

The kid did not slip 3 rounds for medical. If you believe that your crazy. Vince Wilfork has never weighed 390 and his skill set is night and day from Ta'amu. I have said my peace on this topic. I'm done. For the record I hope he turns into another Joel Steed. I think that is his ceiling.

Prowler
04-28-2012, 02:47 PM
Can you name another quality player on the Washington Huskies defense from this past year?

But if you wanna put that all on Ta'amu then cool.

I can't name one to be honest. I saw that Baylor game and the big guy was pushed aside at an alarming rate. I would have loved Josh Chapman instead. Of course, I don't know much about football so take my evaluation for what it is worth. Not much probably. I hope you are right about this pick DeeDub, because I'm not feeling confident about it.

Shoe
04-28-2012, 03:56 PM
The thing that always troubles me (particularly about BIG football players) is the self-starter nature. Is the guy a self-starter. Because among other things (as we all know), it's harder to stay in shape as you age. At 22, 23, 24 years old... weight just falls off. You have loads of energy, your body feels good, etc. So no problem.

But what happens at age 28, 29, 30 (that's like middle-aged for a NFL body). Your body constantly has ahces, pains, surgeries, etc. How will you do then? That's why I'm so high on DeCastro. The guy is self-motivated. He doesn't need anyone to tell him where to go, what to do--HE's gonna tell others.

With a fat guy like Ta'amu, who knows. With guys like Adams, who knows.

Dee Dub
04-28-2012, 03:58 PM
I can't name one to be honest. I saw that Baylor game and the big guy was pushed aside at an alarming rate. I would have loved Josh Chapman instead. Of course, I don't know much about football so take my evaluation for what it is worth. Not much probably. I hope you are right about this pick DeeDub, because I'm not feeling confident about it.

Dude you are selling yourself short. I think you are one of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum when it comes to college football talent.

And I dont argue that Ta'amu had some games this past year that weren't great but overall I think in this Steeler system he has a chance to excel.

I too like Josh Chapman as well as Brandon Thompson but I think for overall talent (ceiling), Ta'amu has off the charts stuff.

TD386Steel
04-28-2012, 04:01 PM
No SKL what this is all about is you do not like Ta'amu. You havent liked him from day one. I did. And obviously so did the Steelers. Now you are going to have to back slide for the next 10 years as Ta'amu dominates for the Steelers.

I like it!!! Yeah baby Go Steelers!!!:tt2

Gus
04-28-2012, 04:05 PM
Ta'amu has off the charts stuff.

Aha! No wonder he slipped to the 4th. He was not even on the charts. Props to the steeler brass and their diligent off the chart scouting.

NJ-STEELER
04-28-2012, 04:42 PM
I can't name one to be honest. I saw that Baylor game and the big guy was pushed aside at an alarming rate. I would have loved Josh Chapman instead. Of course, I don't know much about football so take my evaluation for what it is worth. Not much probably. I hope you are right about this pick DeeDub, because I'm not feeling confident about it.


who didnt baylor run up a lot of points and yards on

Prowler
04-28-2012, 04:50 PM
Not many but when Baylor scores more points against Washington then any other team, it should be of concern, IMO.

feltdizz
04-28-2012, 04:55 PM
We didn't draft the Huskie D... just the NT.

winwithd
04-28-2012, 04:58 PM
I saw the Eagles just took McNutt with a pick that would have been in our neighborhood had we not traded up for Ta'amu. From what I have seen of him, on Youtube clips and such, I have not been too impressed. Then again maybe 3-4 NTs are not supposed to do much more than not get pushed backward.

I had forgotten about McNutt when I posted on the 'who in the 7th' thread. Hopefully Fuller sticks around. We still need a big RZ target.

However, I trust the FO so if they liked Taamu, then I can live with it.

aggiebones
04-28-2012, 07:09 PM
I don't always agree with DeeDub, but I do here.

I admit to wanting to move up in the second for him.
And was angry in the 3rd we didn't get him. And I don't apologize for this.
Furious actually.
So we get him in the 4th. Trust me, he had a higher grade than 4th round for the Steelers, but so did other players that we picked. Other teams don't draft off the Steelers board thankfully. So the Steelers at LEAST had 3rd round value for him.

And I won't back off liking him. We'll find out in 1 year from now how valuable he was.
He's a wall. He's not going to rush the passer, but neither did Hampton or ASmith for that matter. We have others for that.
He's got two 1st round picks on his outside for years to come.
I think we've solved all DL problems for the future.

Tell me next year I was wrong cause you can't prove anything at this point. Save this post if you like.

TD386Steel
04-28-2012, 07:29 PM
I don't always agree with DeeDub, but I do here.

I admit to wanting to move up in the second for him.
And was angry in the 3rd we didn't get him. And I don't apologize for this.
Furious actually.
So we get him in the 4th. Trust me, he had a higher grade than 4th round for the Steelers, but so did other players that we picked. Other teams don't draft off the Steelers board thankfully. So the Steelers at LEAST had 3rd round value for him.

And I won't back off liking him. We'll find out in 1 year from now how valuable he was.
He's a wall. He's not going to rush the passer, but neither did Hampton or ASmith for that matter. We have others for that.
He's got two 1st round picks on his outside for years to come.
I think we've solved all DL problems for the future.

Tell me next year I was wrong cause you can't prove anything at this point. Save this post if you like.

Mike Mayock said it was a steal, that he was graded out in the 2nd Rd.

aggiebones
04-28-2012, 07:44 PM
I seriously was chewing off my arm for him. I wanted a new NT in last year's draft.

Slapstick
04-28-2012, 11:20 PM
This was yet another good pick in this draft...

I really don't care about the Baylor game...I don't pay attention to one game moreso than any other since the Steelers drafted Troy Edwards in '99 based upon his performance against Nebraska...I try to look at an entire body of work when I can...


The NFL is all about situational football now...on first and second downs, throw the space eating NT out on the field...on 3rd down, take him out, replace him with a LB or DB and leave the two 1st round picks (Hood and Heyward) on the field...


Expending a fourth round pick on a two down specialist works for me...especially the way the game is played today...

hawaiiansteel
04-30-2012, 01:42 AM
No word on Hampton's return, but Steelers think Ta'Amu is his clone

April 29, 2012 12:00 am
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


The Steelers think they have found Casey Hampton's replacement at nose tackle with a player who possesses some of the same run-clogging, impossible-to-move traits as their five-time Pro Bowler.

Now, they are waiting to find out if Hampton still possesses some of the traits that made him the anchor of their 3-4 defense after having a third major knee surgery.

If not, they are prepared to move on after drafting Washington's Alameda Ta'amu -- a bigger, wider version of Hampton -- in the fourth round.

"I think you have to ask Casey that," defensive line coach John Mitchell snapped Saturday, when asked if Hampton will be ready to play when the regular season begins in Denver in September. Moments earlier, the Steelers moved up 10 spots in the fourth round to draft Ta'amu, a powerful 6-foot-2 1/4, 348-pound nose tackle who once weighed as much as 390 pounds

"I can't answer that. He was here about a week ago. He looks like Casey. I can't answer that. You have to ask Casey if he is going to be ready to play. When he shows up, I'll know."

Hampton tore the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee in the playoff loss in Denver and did not have surgery until Jan. 27. It was the second time he has had ACL surgery on his left knee, dating to his senior season at Texas. He also had ACL surgery on his right knee in 2004.

Last month, Hampton restructured his contract and agreed to a pay cut in exchange for one more season with the Steelers. But when he will be able to play remains uncertain.

That's why the Steelers wanted to find a nose tackle in the draft. Dontari Poe of Memphis was gone with the 11th overall pick, but the Steelers had Ta'amu rated the second-best nose tackle. They had a low-second to high-third round grade on him.

When he was still available in the fourth, they gave up their sixth-round pick to the Washington Redskins to move up 10 spots to get him.

"Anytime in our scheme, when you get a nose tackle, first you want to make sure that this guy can play the double-team," Mitchell said. "His job is to keep the linebackers free or the safety free when we bring the safety down in the box. If he can't do that, then he'll have a tough time playing for us. He did that very well at the University of Washington.

"I'm not very smart, but I know that you play with 11 on both sides of the ball. Anytime the nose tackle can take up two of the other team, I know that leaves nine and we have one more than they have."

Ta'amu met with all the Steelers coaches at the scouting combine in Indianapolis and knew they were interested in drafting him. The feeling was mutual because Ta'amu wanted to play with Hampton.

"He's up the middle, he holds his ground, it takes more than one blocker to play him," Ta'amu said. "I'm going to try to do the same thing when I get there."

Curiously, Ta'amu's name already had surfaced on the first day of the draft when it was noted that Stanford guard David DeCastro, the Steelers' No. 1 pick, held him without a statistic in a 65-21 Cardinal victory last season. Stanford offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren said Ta'amu was so discouraged he took himself out of the game to "contemplate his life's goals."

"When you go against DeCastro, you feel his presence," Ta'amu said. "There are not a lot of guards that can block a nose guard and you can feel it. With DeCastro, he's explosive from play one all the way to the last play. He comes at you, and there are not a lot of guards that stay the same like that throughout the whole game."

Mitchell said he is not worried about Ta'amu's performance in that game.

"Here's what you have to see -- these guys are in college, they played a scheme that their coach is coaching," Mitchell said. "When he comes here, we will start from scratch. He is going to play the 3-4 the way the Steelers play. I have no concern for what he did in college. That is behind him. He is going to come here, and I'm going to teach him what we want him to get done."

In other words, be like Casey Hampton.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...-clone-633561/ (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/no-word-on-hamptons-return-but-steelers-think-taamu-is-his-clone-633561/)

steelblood
04-30-2012, 09:48 AM
I dont think so much. I believe this time next year he is the starter. He can already do the one proimary function a 3-4 NT needs to do. Garner two blocks. Again folks we are talking about a two down player. The big project that some seem to think is way over valued at this position.

I LOVE the pick. I watched him play several times (as my dufus bro-in-law) is a Huskies fan. I focused on Ta'Amu quite a bit. He has some great attributes. The first and most important in my mind was that he was not a rotational player. He played the whole game and hustled all game long. At 350 pounds, that is no small feat. Most college DTs play in a heavy rotation. He also has surprising short area quickness. He can anticipate the snap and shoot gaps. He is also (obviously) a good bull rusher capable of torquing OL off of their feet and collapsing the pocket. At times he gets too high and doesn't gain a leverage advantage. He chases plays very well, but is a little stiff and takes a little too long redirecting (even for an NFL NT).

While I agree that he is essentially a two down player, he can play on third down, push the pocket and force the QB to shuffle his feet and get him out of rhythm. I believe Ta'Amu will have twice as many career sacks as Casey Hampton.

phillyesq
04-30-2012, 11:48 AM
Dontari Poe of Memphis was gone with the 11th overall pick, but the Steelers had Ta'amu rated the second-best nose tackle. They had a low-second to high-third round grade on him.


This is interesting for a few reasons. First, it shows that the steelers had Ta'amu rated well. Second, it also shows that they must have though very highly of Spence.

aggiebones
04-30-2012, 02:48 PM
Yea, would you rather have Poe at 11 overall or Ta'amu 3 rounds later.
They were the only 2 guys that could play our NT position. I wondered why we waited so long to grab him.

hawaiiansteel
04-30-2012, 03:02 PM
This is interesting for a few reasons. First, it shows that the steelers had Ta'amu rated well. Second, it also shows that they must have though very highly of Spence.

you make a great point, for the Steelers to have chosen Sean Spence in the third round when they had Ta'amu so highly rated says a lot about how highly they regarded Spence.

Dee Dub
04-30-2012, 10:36 PM
I have been saying this for a awhile, Ta'amu is a far better fit as a 3-4 NT than Dontari Poe is. Poe is better suited outside. And now that both will be playing 3-4 NT in the NFL, we will all be able to see exactly what I have been saying.

hawaiiansteel
04-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Yea, would you rather have Poe at 11 overall or Ta'amu 3 rounds later.
They were the only 2 guys that could play our NT position. I wondered why we waited so long to grab him.

I think it speaks volumes about how highly we thought of OT Mike Adams and LB Sean Spence.

Dee Dub
04-30-2012, 10:42 PM
I LOVE the pick. I watched him play several times (as my dufus bro-in-law) is a Huskies fan. I focused on Ta'Amu quite a bit. He has some great attributes. The first and most important in my mind was that he was not a rotational player. He played the whole game and hustled all game long. At 350 pounds, that is no small feat. Most college DTs play in a heavy rotation. He also has surprising short area quickness. He can anticipate the snap and shoot gaps. He is also (obviously) a good bull rusher capable of torquing OL off of their feet and collapsing the pocket. At times he gets too high and doesn't gain a leverage advantage. He chases plays very well, but is a little stiff and takes a little too long redirecting (even for an NFL NT).

While I agree that he is essentially a two down player, he can play on third down, push the pocket and force the QB to shuffle his feet and get him out of rhythm. I believe Ta'Amu will have twice as many career sacks as Casey Hampton.

And I love this post!! This is exactly what I saw everytime I saw Ta'amu as well. When ever you see a man this large, this strong, who has this type of motor, and has this quickness off the snap, you have the formula for a dominate player.

Folks, how often do we see a man this large with the label of not being all that motivated? Or having self starter issues? This aint the case here. In fact it is the exact opposite. Ta'amu plays like he loves the game. LIke he is on a mission. And some of you are going say, "wow! I had no idea he was this good".

feltdizz
04-30-2012, 10:46 PM
I hope he is the real deal. Why did he last until the 4th round? What's his wart? Didn't. A ton of people have him as a 2nd rounder?

steelblood
04-30-2012, 11:16 PM
you make a great point, for the Steelers to have chosen Sean Spence in the third round when they had Ta'amu so highly rated says a lot about how highly they regarded Spence.

There must be something else to Ta'Amu's story. I wonder if the NFL medical exam uncovered some concern with his knee. I have to think someone would have taken him earlier.

Dee Dub
05-01-2012, 03:17 PM
I hope he is the real deal. Why did he last until the 4th round? What's his wart? Didn't. A ton of people have him as a 2nd rounder?

I have been saying the reason why for months. :rolleyes:

Google: Alameda Ta'amu and medical concerns.

birtikidis
05-01-2012, 03:43 PM
I can't think of many NOSE TACKLES that play a huge role in slowing down a spread attack like Baylors.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
I have been saying this for a awhile, Ta'amu is a far better fit as a 3-4 NT than Dontari Poe is. Poe is better suited outside. And now that both will be playing 3-4 NT in the NFL, we will all be able to see exactly what I have been saying.

And I think you will be right because I don't think KC was a good landing spot for Poe. I don't think the coaching staff and the organization's status will benefit him. Having Anthony Pleasant as your position coach may not be the best recipe for success for an underclassman picked at #11. The organization put the bar high on their investment. He needed to go to a team with a strong coaching staff or position coach and a productive veteran playing in front of him. I wish him luck but I'm not optimistic. I feel anxiety and frustration could come quickly given his expectations.

Ta'Amu is coming into a perfect situation. Ta'Amu can push..Not be pushed. That is one of the reason Colbert is so successful. He can put players in that situation and allow them to develop emotionally. The physical & mental part can take front stage while the young player learns to deal with the NFL game. When the bar is set high in the first based on need...Pick a kid that "Fits the system" or "Is a Steeler". Good Recipe!

Dee Dub
05-01-2012, 07:02 PM
And I think you will be right because I don't think KC was a good landing spot for Poe. I don't think the coaching staff and the organization's status will benefit him. Having Anthony Pleasant as your position coach may not be the best recipe for success for an underclassman picked at #11. The organization put the bar high on their investment. He needed to go to a team with a strong coaching staff or position coach and a productive veteran playing in front of him. I wish him luck but I'm not optimistic. I feel anxiety and frustration could come quickly given his expectations.

Ta'Amu is coming into a perfect situation. Ta'Amu can push..Not be pushed. That is one of the reason Colbert is so successful. He can put players in that situation and allow them to develop emotionally. The physical & mental part can take front stage while the young player learns to deal with the NFL game. When the bar is set high in the first based on need...Pick a kid that "Fits the system" or "Is a Steeler". Good Recipe!

Funny thing is Romeo Crennell told Poe over the phone that he sees him as a 3 down player. If he were kicked outside I could see that but at NT where they plan to use him I dont know about that.

I agree with you assessment of "Fits the system" or "Is a Steeler". Good analogy.

NorthCoast
05-01-2012, 10:08 PM
And I think you will be right because I don't think KC was a good landing spot for Poe. I don't think the coaching staff and the organization's status will benefit him. Having Anthony Pleasant as your position coach may not be the best recipe for success for an underclassman picked at #11. The organization put the bar high on their investment. He needed to go to a team with a strong coaching staff or position coach and a productive veteran playing in front of him. I wish him luck but I'm not optimistic. I feel anxiety and frustration could come quickly given his expectations.

Ta'Amu is coming into a perfect situation. Ta'Amu can push..Not be pushed. That is one of the reason Colbert is so successful. He can put players in that situation and allow them to develop emotionally. The physical & mental part can take front stage while the young player learns to deal with the NFL game. When the bar is set high in the first based on need...Pick a kid that "Fits the system" or "Is a Steeler". Good Recipe!

i think your assessment is spot on JPN. Bad teams are constantly looking for instant solutions to their problems in order to put together a few wins in a season. Unfortunately this causes many rookies and underdeveloped players to be rushed into a game setting far before they are ready. Now, not all players develop equally and that is why a handful of rookies start their first season and have success. But the majority of players fall into the category of needing to be coached up to NFL standards. Good teams like the Steelers and NE can take that time to groom (and some say the Steelers take far too long for some players, but you can't argue with their success rate).

hawaiiansteel
08-04-2012, 08:24 PM
By Mark Kaboly
Published: Friday, August 3, 2012

• At times, rookie nose tackle Alameda Ta’amu’s aggressiveness has been questioned. That was evident during a recent practice when a teammate yelled at him after getting stonewalled during a drill by a much smaller lineman.

Veteran Casey Hampton said Ta’amu’s aggressiveness will come. “You’re a dog, but you bite as a pup. He has to be consistent,” Hampton said. “There is more than getting in shape. It is something that you have to get accustomed of doing and play hard all the time.”

Ta’amu is currently behind Steve McLendon and Kade Weston on the depth chart.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2332421-85/steelers-batch-offseason-victorian-drill-practice-rookie-roster-agent-amu