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hawaiiansteel
04-22-2012, 09:05 PM
Report: Mike Wallace says he won’t sign “until he has to”

Posted by Mike Florio on April 22, 2012

With the period for restricted free agency movement concluded, and with no restricted free agents signing offer sheets with new teams, those who have yet to sign tender offers from their current teams must decide when and if to do so.

Steelers receiver Mike Wallace, the highest-profile restricted free agent without a contract, reportedly doesn’t plan to do so any time soon.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Wallace has told some within the organization that he doesn’t plan to accept the one-year, $2.7 million tender offer “until he has to.”

The question becomes when does he have to?

As Schefter points out, the CBA allows the Steelers on June 15 to withdraw the tender and replace it with an offer equal to 110 percent of his 2011 base salary, which for Wallace would equate to $577,000.

Still, he could hold out even longer, skipping training camp and the preseason and up to 10 weeks of the regular season. At that point, he could sign the tender, receive he prorated base salary under the $577,000 tender (i.e., $237,000), and then become an unrestricted free agent (subject to the franchise or transition tag) in 2013.

Wallace ultimately must ask himself if it’s worth giving up more than 90 percent of the current tender in order to exert maximum leverage toward a long-term deal now — and to expose himself to minimal injury risk before putting himself in position to achieve a major payday. The manner in which he balances these competing considerations will directly influence his assessment of the day on the calendar that equates to “until he has to.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/22/report-mike-wallace-says-he-wont-sign-until-he-has-to/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/22/report-mike-wallace-says-he-wont-sign-until-he-has-to/)

Chadman
04-22-2012, 09:32 PM
Yet again, no actual quote from Bus Cook or Mike Wallace- so this has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but if even remotely true, very disappointing to hear.

Funny how often the off-season defines who long-term Steelers really are..

hawaiiansteel
04-22-2012, 09:38 PM
Report: Mike Wallace Told 'Some' in Steelers Organization He Won't Sign Until He Has To

by Neal Coolong on Apr 22, 2012


ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on ESPN Radio as well as his own tweet Sunday morning Steelers WR Mike Wallace indicated to more than one person within the Steelers organization he won't sign his tender offer from the Steelers "until he has to."

This isn't exactly surprising (we mentioned the likelihood of him not signing it for a while). He has until June 15 to sign his tender before the Steelers can reduce the one-year contract from $2.7 million to $577,500.

The report suggests, then, Wallace would wait until then to sign it, and it's really nothing more than a negotiating tactic. If he signed the tender now, the Steelers wouldn't have any particular reason on the surface to negotiate any further. In other words, if Wallace wants more than $2.7 million this season, it's not in his best interest to lock himself in now, when he still has roughly two months to continue to work toward a long-term deal - something both sides have said they want.

If he holds true to that, it would mean he wouldn't be under contract during the Steelers' designated Organized Team Activities - OTAs - which go from May 22 to June 14. It isn't likely he would attend these voluntary activities if he isn't under contract.

How big of a deal it will be for him to not be in attendance isn't clear, though. Some players won't attend even if they are under contract. Top to bottom, it's really just Wallace hanging onto a reasonable and valid bargaining chip.

It'd be a different story if he was talking about missing training camp, which begins in late July.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/4/22/2966705/report-mike-wallace-told-some-in-steelers-organization-he-wont-sign

RuthlessBurgher
04-23-2012, 12:05 AM
I think "until he has to" means June 15. He'll stay away from minicamps and OTA's in the meantime, hoping that Bus Cook and Omar Khan are able to come up with a long term deal that works out for both sides before then. I predict he signs the $2.7 million tender on June 15, and reports to camp in Latrobe with the team in July. Hopefully something works out before we halt negotiations during the regular season. I don't see Vincent Jackson when I look at Mike Wallace...I don't see him trying to pull "sit out the first 10 weeks" tactic.

hawaiiansteel
04-23-2012, 01:38 AM
Does Mike Wallace Really Think He Can Win a Staring Contest Against the Pittsburgh Steelers?

by Anthony Defeo on Apr 20, 2012


Last week, it was reported that Mike Wallace, a restricted free agent, had decided that he wasn't going to sign the Steelers $2.7 million one year tender. This indicated that Wallace's intention was to draw a line in the sand and enter into a battle of wills with the Pittsburgh Steelers. You knew that already, of course. Neal Coolong summarized that quite succinctly last week when the news first broke.

That's old news.

What's even older news is that it's almost impossible to win a staring contest with the Pittsburgh Steelers. If Wallace doesn't know this, his agent should, and they should probably try to come up with a better plan if they're going to get what they want.

More highly decorated Steelers than Mike Wallace have tried this tactic in the past, and they have failed.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have one of the most disciplined approaches to running a business in all of professional sports. If they establish a way of doing things, a policy, they very rarely go off course.

For example, the Steeler hardly ever make big splashes in free agency. This often frustrates fans who want them to go hard after the top names each and every offseason. But the Steelers would rather build through the draft, develop their own stars, and sign them to huge deals when the time is right. The team just ignores the protests from the outside, continues to do their thing every year, and it has worked to the tune of being the most successful franchise in the NFL over the past 40 seasons.

The Steelers have also set a precedent of not re-negotiating contracts during the regular season.

In 1988, Pro Bowl linebacker Mike Merriweather held out the entire season despite still being under contract. The Steelers never gave in to this negotiation tactic, and they simply traded him away for a first round pick in 1989.

Want a more recent example? In 2005, Hines Ward, one of the greatest Steelers of all-time, held out the first couple of weeks of training camp because he wanted a new deal even though he still had another year remaining on his then current contract.

Did Hines think it was going to work? I don't know. But it wasn't long before then coach Bill Cowher persuaded Ward to come to camp, and it wasn't long before the team took care of him with a new contract. Yes, Ward eventually got his deal, but that's because he came to his senses and, unlike Merriweather, decided to negotiate in good faith. Had Ward continued to hold out, he probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere.

That's two examples nearly two-decades apart of how the Steelers handle strong-arm negotiation tactics. They simply don't back down.

Wallace should take notes.

There has been speculation floating around over the past few weeks that Wallace wants Larry Fitzgerald money. I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that he's not going to get that kind of money from the Steelers, not with their salary cap situation being what it is. The team had to cut ties with a few veterans and ask a few others to re-structure their contracts just so they could barely get under the cap.

Very few restricted free agents sign offer sheets, but Wallace is an attractive enough receiver--the best deep threat in the game-- that you would think someone would have taken at least a slight interest in him and tried to sign him to an offer sheet. The fact that Wallace has had very little interest from other teams at this late point is a pretty fair indication that maybe he is over-valuing his worth just a little bit.

I don't think Wallace has much leverage at this point. His only real recourse is to sign the tender sheet and play out his last year with the Steelers and see what happens.

Do I think Wallace is worth Fitzgerald money? Personally, no, not yet. But that's just my opinion, and things would change pretty fast if Wallace goes out and sets the league on fire this season.

If he establishes himself to be the equal to Fitzgerald and receivers like him, Wallace will have the leverage as he becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2013..

And, who knows? The Steelers might actually be willing to find a way to give him a fair market deal.

As I said, the Steelers may hold their ground when re-negotiating, but they do want to keep their own stars whenever they can.

As a restricted free agent, Mike Wallace is under no obligation to sign anything or do anything. But he owes it to himself to at least sign the tender sheet if he and the Steelers can't come to an agreement before training camp.

If he wants his big contract, he has a 16-week job interview coming up to show the Steelers and the rest of the NFL what he's truly worth.

That's his best option. Hopefully, he'll come around, because the Steelers aren't going to change their approach to business.

They always win their staring contests.

My guess is that Mike Wallace will be the one who blinks first.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/4/20/2962399/does-mike-wallace-really-think-he-can-win-a-staring-contest-against

phillyesq
04-23-2012, 01:33 PM
I think "until he has to" means June 15. He'll stay away from minicamps and OTA's in the meantime, hoping that Bus Cook and Omar Khan are able to come up with a long term deal that works out for both sides before then. I predict he signs the $2.7 million tender on June 15, and reports to camp in Latrobe with the team in July. Hopefully something works out before we halt negotiations during the regular season. I don't see Vincent Jackson when I look at Mike Wallace...I don't see him trying to pull "sit out the first 10 weeks" tactic.

Yeah, I think at this point, there is perhaps a bit of negotiating and posturing, but nothing serious.

Oviedo
04-23-2012, 02:09 PM
I hope the greedy, egotistical idiot falls down the steps and breaks both his legs.

Not really but I'm sure that would evoke an emotional response with the "all is lost without Wallace" crowd. What I really hope is Wallace doesn't turn into a jackass through this and guarantee himself a ticket out of town. I like Wallace but he isn't worth the ridiculous off season contracts given to other WRs who too will not in all probability perform up to them. I just don't want to see the Steelers make the same mistake.

steelblood
04-23-2012, 02:23 PM
Mark it down. Draft Day Trade!


















I do not really believe this will happen.

SteelBucks
04-23-2012, 02:26 PM
I don't see Vincent Jackson when I look at Mike Wallace...I don't see him trying to pull "sit out the first 10 weeks" tactic.

I'd deactivate him for the final six if he pulled that stunt. Make him sit out the entire year.....

Oviedo
04-23-2012, 03:27 PM
Mark it down. Draft Day Trade!



















I do not really believe this will happen.



I don't think they can trade him if he hasn't signed his tender.
That may be the one tactic in his favor, but he will lose a test of wills.

Northern_Blitz
04-23-2012, 03:42 PM
I think people are making way too big a deal about this. He knows that the Steelers have 90% of the leverage in this negotiation. I think he and his agent are just trying to use the 10% they have to get a better long term deal.

Sugar
04-23-2012, 03:58 PM
Why do I think this will end up as much ado about nothing? The Steelers have gotten Pro Bowl worthy production at a bargain price. Of course the guy is going to want to get paid. He should do everything in his power to get what he wants here.

hawaiiansteel
04-23-2012, 04:36 PM
Steelers 'not worried' about Mike Wallace reports

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Published: April 23, 2012


Mike Wallace might not be happy about his current contract situation, but there's not much he can do about it. And the Pittsburgh Steelers know it.

"We're not worried about the reports," Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said Monday at a pre-draft news conference. "He's still here. We will deal with it day to day."

There is no reason for the Steelers to be worried. They say Wallace's situation won't affect their draft plans. ESPN reported the wide receiver won't attend voluntary work anytime soon, choosing to wait before signing his one-year tender as a restricted free agent.

In theory, Wallace is waiting to see if any team will try to trade for him on draft day. We find that extremely unlikely. Eventually, Wallace will have to show up.

"We felt all along the decision would be ours," Colbert said about Wallace's lack of movement on the restricted market. "We want Mike to be here for the long haul. He knows that."

Unless Wallace lowers his contract demands, he might stay on a one-year contract. That arrangement could last two seasons with the franchise tag looming.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82886361/article/steelers-not-worried-about-mike-wallace-reports-?module=HP11_headline_stack

Pouncey53Fan
04-23-2012, 09:49 PM
I think "until he has to" means June 15. He'll stay away from minicamps and OTA's in the meantime, hoping that Bus Cook and Omar Khan are able to come up with a long term deal that works out for both sides before then. I predict he signs the $2.7 million tender on June 15, and reports to camp in Latrobe with the team in July. Hopefully something works out before we halt negotiations during the regular season. I don't see Vincent Jackson when I look at Mike Wallace...I don't see him trying to pull "sit out the first 10 weeks" tactic.
My thoughts exactly. Pulling a Vincent Jackson wouldn't be a bright move on the part of Wallace or his agent.

hawaiiansteel
04-24-2012, 04:21 PM
Will unhappy Wallace leave Steelers in '13?

By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com
April 22, 2012


It's clear that restricted free agent Mike Wallace is not happy with the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. He is prepared to sit out offseason drills and at least the start of training camp, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

Does this hurt the Steelers' chances of keeping him long term? Not at all. Players get upset about their contract status all the time and skip workouts on a regular basis to show their dissatisfaction with their current situation.

Just remember the recent predicament with guard Logan Mankins, who was unhappy and wanted out of New England because he didn't want to play as a restricted free agent. How did that get resolved? Mankins signed a six-year contract last summer that included a $20 million signing bonus.

It was a similar ugly standoff last year between the Tennessee Titans and running back Chris Johnson. In the end, the sides were shaking hands on four-year, $53.5 million contract extension that included $30 million guaranteed.

Wallace wants a long-term deal instead of a $2.7 million first-round tender. He has outplayed his contract, and the Steelers have repeatedly said they want to sign him to a multiyear deal. This problem probably won't get resolved this year, but Wallace would only be hurting himself by dragging this out beyond June 15 (when the Steelers can cut the tender to $577,500 if he doesn't sign).

The Steelers don't a have long history of re-signing their wide receivers in free agency -- only Hines Ward has been retained -- but there's also no reason to doubt the team's desire to keep him. Pittsburgh has rewarded Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Polamalu, LaMarr Woodley and Lawrence Timmons with extensions.

Plus, Wallace is a key part of the Steelers' deep passing game. His receiving yards (3,206) and touchdowns (24) both rank as the second most by an NFL receiver in his first three seasons. And, even when Wallace isn't catching the ball, the threat of him running deep opens up the underneath for wide receiver Antonio Brown and tight end Heath Miller.

So, Wallace is ticked off by his contract status, and the Steelers aren't going to like him missing workouts in a year with a new offensive coordinator. But NFL history shows that a multiyear contract can turn a temporarily bad situation into a happy long-term one.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/46456/will-unhappy-wallace-leave-steelers-in-13

fezziwig
04-24-2012, 09:25 PM
I get it about Wallace possibly waiting for the last minute to sign. Why be a push over. On the other hand, I wouldn't break the bank for him with a new contract next season. I want players that want to be a Steeler and play here in Pittsburgh. If money is a guys first priority then, let him go for the cash. Paid for what he is worth sure but, the dude doesn't deserve Fiztgerald type dollars. Something of respect he deserves but I don't think Wallace is a game changer and so he shouldn't get that type of coin. Maybe I'll be singing a different tune when the day comes he is gone and maybe Arians wasn't using him to his full capacity but, I won't cry if he doesn't return this season or any season afterwards.

RuthlessBurgher
04-24-2012, 09:45 PM
I don't understand how Steeler fans can think that Mike Wallace is not a game changer. Fans of all other teams can see that he is a game changer, and would LOVE to have someone like that on their team. He's the biggest big-play threat in all of football (Roethlisberger-to-Wallace 40+ yard hookups are already at historical levels), and he ranks #2 ALL TIME in terms of catches, receiving yards, and receiving TD's in the first 3 years of a career.

fezziwig
04-24-2012, 09:51 PM
maybe i just have a short memory or expect too much. i would love to see wallace and ben or the entire offense for that matter under our new oc and see how well they could gel. my last memories of wallace have been, him not geting open, not fighting for the ball and actually being a ghost at the end of the season. again, it's probably just me being sore over our quick departure in the playoffs and our last super bowl loss.

steelz09
04-24-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't understand how Steeler fans can think that Mike Wallace is not a game changer. Fans of all other teams can see that he is a game changer, and would LOVE to have someone like that on their team. He's the biggest big-play threat in all of football (Roethlisberger-to-Wallace 40+ yard hookups are already at historical levels), and he ranks #2 ALL TIME in terms of catches, receiving yards, and receiving TD's in the first 3 years of a career.

All fans that I recently talk to (49ers, Giants, Redskins, Packers) all think he's a good player and they would like Wallace on their team. HOWEVER, each one of my friends that are fans of those teams thank it's absolutely laughable that he wants CLOSE to Fitzgerald money. And it is laughable.

RuthlessBurgher
04-24-2012, 10:17 PM
All fans that I recently talk to (49ers, Giants, Redskins, Packers) all think he's a good player and they would like Wallace on their team. HOWEVER, each one of my friends that are fans of those teams thank it's absolutely laughable that he wants CLOSE to Fitzgerald money. And it is laughable.

Sure, it's laughable, but agents are always going to shoot for the moon in the early portions of negotiation. It's also laughable that Joe Flacco thinks he's the best QB in the NFL, and his agent is probably pushing for him to get paid as such (I have heard of no progress on the Joe Flacco contract extension talks either). That's just the way things have always gone (only in the past, these negotiating tactics were always done behind closed doors and out of the public eye, while now agents are using ProFootballTalk and Twitter and whatever else they can, so we see more of the sordid underbelly of the business side of football now than we used to).

fezziwig
04-24-2012, 11:02 PM
i wonder how often agents use their clients as pawns ? is it all about getting a percentage off of the players big paycheck or do they take in consideration what team will be best for the player ?