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focosteeler
04-19-2012, 01:49 AM
:tt2 My 2012 NFL Mock :tt2


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Steelers' 1.24 and 2.56 for Cowboys’ 1.14


1 — 14

David DeCastro –OG– Stanford 6’5” 316lbs
As we all know, DeCastro is the top ranked Guard in the draft, many have him grading out higher than any offensive lineman in the draft. But being a Guard he won’t be drafted in the top 10. He slips past some teams allowing us to jump up and take him. He can come in and immediately improve our offensive line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM3jPINC0WU
3 — 88

Mike Martin – NT – Michigan 6’1” 300lbs
I think Mike Martin is the perfect guy to replace Chris Hoke. Although he is smaller guy, he works his butt off. He has a wrestling background which helps with his ability in the trenches. His effort is something that I really like. He is one of those guys that I think could really come out and shine.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1dxVY9zrLs&feature=plcp&context=C410513aVDvjVQa1PpcFM5gZhflT7kXE-H_ZN-C3xKabTofkKGylo%3D
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4 — 120

Lucas Nix –OG– Pitt – 6’5” 317lbs
I have liked Nix since I watched a couple of games last year. He plays with a mean streak and he blocks through the whistle. He is a good run blocker who has some good range and will get to the second level. He is more of a mirror pass blocker than a dominating guy. While he does have deficiencies they are all coachable and Kugler should be able to turn him into a starter by the end of the season. (here is a link to some film) http://www.patriots.com/media-center/videos/2012-Draft-Prospects---Lucas-Nix-G/c65123a7-89ba-47b9-b2f4-83c7b8599096
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5 — 152

Miles Burris –LB– San Diego State 6’2” 240lbs
I am very impressed by the speed and physicality of Burris. He gives us great potential AND position flexibility. He has the strength to set the edge like, he has the explosion to rush the passer like and he has the movement skills and technique to play on the inside, as well. His athleticism makes him an ideal special teams candidate. The Steelers can always work to add studs to special teams, and Burris would be a huge contributor in the facet of the game. He is ranked all over the place, rounds 4-7 so I will play it safe and take him early (especially since the Ravens are apparently very interested)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VapULyU56To
6 — 184

Toney Clemons–WR– Colorado 6’2" 210lbs
I really like Clemons, I know we already have Wallace, Brown and Sanders but I think that Clemons could really do well in our offense. He ran a 4.36 at his pro day and can also return kicks. He is mocked all over the place, 5 round to PFA.So I will take him in the 6th.... http://www.steeleraddicts.com/2012/04/toney-clemons-could-provide-late-round-value-for-the-steelers/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ZlTljJXjw
7 — 216

Akiem Hicks – DL – Regina 6’4’ 324lbs
He has fantastic size and frame to play at a variety of positions. He displayed good quickness off the ball both at the CIS level and as the East West Shrine Game. Has the strength to hold up at the point of attack and does a good job anchoring down and holding his ground.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PieSrGrX7Vk&feature=plcp&context=C48acae8VDvjVQa1PpcFM5gZhflT7kXLMudVT2R0QG 7qBFAtXPE8M%3

7 — 240

Ryan Miller –OT– Colorado 6’7” 305lbs
He played mostly guard at CU and has balance/coordination game in both the run and pass game and is better suited to play as a right tackle at the next level. A sub-par Senior Bowl performance really hurt his draft stock and made him fall. Most of his issues are technique stuff. He can provide some depth at Tackle while Kugler gets his technique right.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTRExHkiSl8&feature=plcp&context=C4978bdcVDvjVQa1PpcFM5gZhflT7kXL9p_Y0tPhpL X2T9SErysRM%3D

7 — 246

Keith Tandy – CB – West Virginia 5’10” 195lbs
We lost Willie Gay so we need to replace whoever takes he starting spot. I think Tandy will do just fine, he is a solid athlete with good ball skills. He has the talent turn into a solid player if he takes the opportunity. He does best in zone coverage and is fluid in his lower half and does well to change directions without losing too much speed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1_zJvZot4

7 — 248

Vontaze Burfict – LB – Arizona State 6’1 250lbs
Ok so I know all the bad stuff that Burfict does, in combination with a less than stellar season and poor combine have some people taking him out of the draft completely. But I know what I have seen him do on the field. He has talent and he lays the wood on contact. He can hold the point of attack and for his size exhibits "plus" range and fluidity despite what he did at the combine. As of right now I don’t think he could step in for Farrior but I think he might have that potential. He needs to stay in control of his emotions. I think the Steelers are the perfect fit for a guy like this. He needs to be put in a good locker room with a veteran presence to him to help him learn to be a professional. If he doesn’t work out, it’s a 7th round pick, which we have plenty of this year.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKRecUnla6I&feature=plcp&context=C4c82d5bVDvjVQa1PpcFM5gZhflT7kXAsQEO1Fohun hJnIcT23Tvo%3D


Priority Free Agents------------------------

Chigbo Anunoby – DL – Morehouse 6’4” 326lbs

Delano Johnson – OLB – Bowie State 6’4” 267lbs

Derek Carrier –TE – Beloit College 6’3” 245lbs

Charles Deas –NT– Shaw 6’3” 316lbs

Alvester Alexander –RB– Wyoming 5'11" 206 (I have to include a Wyoming guy )


:D There it is!

Oviedo
04-19-2012, 07:56 AM
Me like!!!!!! Emphasis on get OL that we need. Good balance between offense and defense.

I don't think Burfict will last until Round 7. No matter how much a bonehead he has acted someone will take a chance in the Round 4-5 area.

Might also consider a RB before a third OL. Still like gannaway from Baylor in the Rounds 5-7 range.

MeetJoeGreene
04-19-2012, 07:58 AM
Dude. Epic Mock draft... That is BEAST!

Steelersrock151
04-19-2012, 08:06 AM
As much as I lik DeCasto, I don't knowifhe's worth a 1 and 2. I like a lot of your other picks though. Personal opinion is that your overdrafting rounds 4-6 by one round each, and underdrafting your 7th round comps.

calmkiller
04-19-2012, 08:38 AM
I wouldn't trade up for Guard. I want him, but I want at 24. If hes not there go another direction.

grotonsteel
04-19-2012, 11:16 AM
Very Nice draft. I like it. Emphasis on big and ugly is the way to go.

I would prefer Ryan Van Bergen some where in that draft.

Dee Dub
04-19-2012, 12:11 PM
This is a good draft. I would be happy with this. And getting Burfict in the 7th which is now highly possible that he will go that late, could be lightening in a bottle for the Steelers. My only thing is, I really would want to keep that second round pick. I am willing to move up as far as 18 for DeCastro. That would require #24 and #86 (3rd round pick), at 900 value points.

focosteeler
04-19-2012, 02:09 PM
As much as I lik DeCasto, I don't knowifhe's worth a 1 and 2. I like a lot of your other picks though. Personal opinion is that your overdrafting rounds 4-6 by one round each, and underdrafting your 7th round comps.
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To me DeCastro is as close to a sure thing as there is in this draft, and he fills our biggest need. I agree that a 1st and a 2nd is a hefty price, hopefully he falls into the late teens draft day so we dont have to lose the 2nd, only a 3rd

I agree with what you said about over/under drafting. Its just so hard to predict those rounds. Everyone sees them going in different rounds. I just saw a mock this morning that had Akiem Hicks going in the 3rd round and Ryan Miller going in the 4th....I should put a disclaimer saying these players are interchangible round wise, as long as we get them :D

steelz09
04-19-2012, 03:49 PM
1 & 2 is a hefty price but if you can get a guy and lockup a position of need for the next 10 years then you do it. I like the 3rd and 4th picks as well.

However, I see a big gap and that is no one that addresses our dire need at FS.

RuthlessBurgher
04-19-2012, 05:54 PM
I see a big gap and that is no one that addresses our dire need at FS.

What do you suggest? In this draft, safety-wise, Alabama's Mark Barron is likely to be off the board before #24. Notre Dame's Harrison Smith is a reach at #24 and is likely to be off the board by #56. Then there is a drop-off. Both of those guys are probably better strong safeties than free safeties anyway. Our front office has shown some interest in Michigan State FS Trent Robinson, who should be a late-Friday or early-Saturday type of pick.

This is not a good draft for safeties. It should be a much better safety draft in 2013 (USC's T.J. McDonald, Alabama's Robert Lester, Georgia's Baccari Rambo, Miami's Ray Ray Armstrong, etc.), so that may be where we look for a future starter at safety (this year looks pretty much like a draft for safety depth after the first pair).

Are you basing this "dire need at FS" on the fact that Ryan Clark will not be able to play at Denver again? Well, we play Denver week 1, so no incoming rookie FS would offer more to us than Ryan Mundy does that soon into his Pro career. One way to break a young guy's spirit would be to start him at safety in prime time during week 1 of his rookie season in Peyton Manning's debut in the thin mountain air.

steelz09
04-19-2012, 10:27 PM
What do you suggest? In this draft, safety-wise, Alabama's Mark Barron is likely to be off the board before #24. Notre Dame's Harrison Smith is a reach at #24 and is likely to be off the board by #56. Then there is a drop-off. Both of those guys are probably better strong safeties than free safeties anyway. Our front office has shown some interest in Michigan State FS Trent Robinson, who should be a late-Friday or early-Saturday type of pick.

This is not a good draft for safeties. It should be a much better safety draft in 2013 (USC's T.J. McDonald, Alabama's Robert Lester, Georgia's Baccari Rambo, Miami's Ray Ray Armstrong, etc.), so that may be where we look for a future starter at safety (this year looks pretty much like a draft for safety depth after the first pair).

Are you basing this "dire need at FS" on the fact that Ryan Clark will not be able to play at Denver again? Well, we play Denver week 1, so no incoming rookie FS would offer more to us than Ryan Mundy does that soon into his Pro career. One way to break a young guy's spirit would be to start him at safety in prime time during week 1 of his rookie season in Peyton Manning's debut in the thin mountain air.

No... I'm basing our dire need at FS on the fact that Clark is 32 y/o. We have Mundy backing up FS and SS. Polamalu has had injury / concussion issues. Clark's physical nature in combination w/ his age is very prone to injury. It's not a stretch to think that Clark and Polamalu could be injured at the same time.

What is our strategic plan for the FS position? Who is our "development" prospects for the FS position. We don't have any... thats who. Very, very poor planning from the coaching and FO perspective. It's actually worse than NT. It's one of the holes in this sinking ship.

focosteeler
04-19-2012, 11:32 PM
1 & 2 is a hefty price but if you can get a guy and lockup a position of need for the next 10 years then you do it. I like the 3rd and 4th picks as well.

However, I see a big gap and that is no one that addresses our dire need at FS.

I personally didnt see any point at putting a safety in my mock. I think there is a 100% chance we draft one in the first 3 rounds next year. As ruthless said, outside of the top 2 guys this class is bad. Next year is the year for our future NT and Safety

Oviedo
04-20-2012, 08:02 AM
I personally didnt see any point at putting a safety in my mock. I think there is a 100% chance we draft one in the first 3 rounds next year. As ruthless said, outside of the top 2 guys this class is bad. Next year is the year for our future NT and Safety

I agree about a weak safety class. I kept looking for one to put in but there really aren't many good ones. I think we need to look at converting a CB to Safety.

pfelix73
04-20-2012, 08:16 AM
Yea, the Cowboys are interested in him- Barron. So that blows the idea of moving up with the Cowboys. There is no way they will move out of that spot, so this draft is as much fiction as there can be. Also, our biggest need isn't OG. It's in the middle of the defense. I personally beleive like many others that our greatest need is ILB with the loss of Farrior. However, a strong point can be made that another great need is Safety. I would be just as happy with Barron- IF he would fall. I am not at all interested in seeing them move up in the draft this year. There's no 'Troy' out there that's worth it....

steelz09
04-20-2012, 09:51 AM
I kind of changed my mind a bit on our "greatest" need. I think OG is #1, FS is #2, NT is #3.

Reasoning?

OG - Our starting guards would be backups just about anywhere else.

FS - Mundy is the #1 backup at FS and SS. He is not and never will be a future starter. We have no future plan for this position. As Ovi says, defensives players typically learn for a year... and some positions moreso than others. FS is one of those positions where a rookie won't start. If Polamalu and Clark get injured then what? Mundy starts at SS and who is going to play the other? idk... maybe Tomlin's plan is to have Carnell Lake suit up and play.

NT - A big need... McClendon played well although I'm not sure he's a full-time starter. I'll trust Tomlin's comment that Hood can play NT. I don't know why I'd trust him w/ a comment like that... This is coming from the same person that said Timmons was a 3-4 rightside OLB.

ILB - We have Foote and Sly. Servicable but certainly not recommended.

Oviedo
04-20-2012, 10:01 AM
I kind of changed my mind a bit on our "greatest" need. I think OG is #1, FS is #2, NT is #3.

Reasoning?

OG - Our starting guards would be backups just about anywhere else.

FS - Mundy is the #1 backup at FS and SS. He is not and never will be a future starter. We have no future plan for this position. As Ovi says, defensives players typically learn for a year... and some positions moreso than others. FS is one of those positions where a rookie won't start. If Polamalu and Clark get injured then what? Mundy starts at SS and who is going to play the other? idk... maybe Tomlin's plan is to have Carnell Lake suit up and play.

NT - A big need... McClendon played well although I'm not sure he's a full-time starter. I'll trust Tomlin's comment that Hood can play NT. I don't know why I'd trust him w/ a comment like that... This is coming from the same person that said Timmons was a 3-4 rightside OLB.

ILB - We have Foote and Sly. Servicable but certainly not recommended.

I agree with your #1 and #2 but I would probably put OT at #3. We have no idea if Colon can stay healthy or whether Gilbert can be successful at LT.

NT is pretty much a two down position nowadays and we can get a decent rotation with players selected later in Round 3-5.

focosteeler
04-20-2012, 11:15 AM
Yea, the Cowboys are interested in him- Barron. So that blows the idea of moving up with the Cowboys. There is no way they will move out of that spot, so this draft is as much fiction as there can be. Also, our biggest need isn't OG. It's in the middle of the defense. I personally beleive like many others that our greatest need is ILB with the loss of Farrior. However, a strong point can be made that another great need is Safety. I would be just as happy with Barron- IF he would fall. I am not at all interested in seeing them move up in the draft this year. There's no 'Troy' out there that's worth it....

Yes there is a hole where Farrior left, but we have an unknown in Sly, no matter who we draft they wont be playing for the first couple months. Butler has stated multiple times that they sit rookies so they can learn what they need to know when they are out on the field. I don't think it matters who we draft at ILB, they wont play for weeks.

I say our biggest need is OG because we need to keep Ben upright and healthy, especially this year, our offense is Ben. We need to be able to actually open holes in the running game. The guys we have starting would be backups on every other team in the league. You don't think that moving up for a guy who will dominate at his position for the next decade is worth it? I sure do

steelz09
04-20-2012, 11:34 AM
Yes there is a hole where Farrior left, but we have an unknown in Sly, no matter who we draft they wont be playing for the first couple months. Butler has stated multiple times that they sit rookies so they can learn what they need to know when they are out on the field. I don't think it matters who we draft at ILB, they wont play for weeks.



I think Hightower could start week 1. Unless he is completely lost, playbook wise, how could you start Sly or Foote over Hightower? Or possibly split playing time fro day 1.

Farrior was able to cover up Timmons' flaws for a couple years. I think it's Timmons' time to step up and fill any initial defiencies that Hightower may have initially. Well, let me take that back... 5 years into Timmons' career we're still talking about him reaching his potential :Blah

Dee Dub
04-20-2012, 12:33 PM
Yes there is a hole where Farrior left, but we have an unknown in Sly, no matter who we draft they wont be playing for the first couple months. Butler has stated multiple times that they sit rookies so they can learn what they need to know when they are out on the field. I don't think it matters who we draft at ILB, they wont play for weeks......


Butler was referring to rookies who have never played in their system. Donta Hightower has. Two year defensive captain who called the the plays for Alabama 3-4 zone blitz.

What would Hightower need to learn/know? The different terminology? I would hope that one would understand that wouldn't be an issue for someone like Hightower's.

Yes...I know. I sound like a broken record. :D