A few days before Easter Mock

[toddjammin]

Round 1 OT Jonathan Martin from Stanford 6 Foot 5 312 lbs
Round 2 OG Kelechi Osemele from Iowa State 6 Foot 6 333 lbs
Round 3 DT Josh Chapman from Alabama 6 Foot 1 316 lbs
Round 4 ILB Audie Cole from North Carolina State 6 Foot 4 246 lbs
Round 5 WR Tommy Streeter from Miami 6 Foot 5 219 lbs
Round 6 SS Kelcie Mccray from Arkansas State 6 Foot 2 202 lbs
Round 7A CB Robert Blanton from Notre Dame 6 Foot 1 208 lbs
Round 7B FB Cody Johnson from Texas 5 Foot 11 252 lbs
Round 7C DT Dominque Hamilton from Missouri 6 Foot 5 313 lbs
Round 7D TE Beau Reliford from Florida State 6 Foot 5 256 lbs

[RuthlessBurgher]

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by MeetJoeGreene http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=497400#post497400)
Dude! Epic Mock Draft! That is BEAST!

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Wow, is that a big draft! Half of the players are 6' 5" and over.

Nice draft if it works out this way. Addresses a lot of areas of need with players who will be competing for significant playing time from the first day of camp.

[calmkiller]

There is a complete lack of WVU players in this mock.

[grotonsteel]

I would do back flips if this is what Steelers draft. Very good draft.:Clap Big and Ugly.

OT and OG in Rd 1 and Rd2 is the way to go in this draft.

[grotonsteel]

There is a complete lack of WVU players in this mock.

I like Bruce Irvin from WVU but he is a complete headcase.

[Sugar]

Not a fan of taking OL in the first two. If they happen to be BPA, then fine, but I'd rather have a future signal caller for the D or a weapon for Ben first.

[hawaiiansteel]

There is a complete lack of WVU players in this mock.


which WVU players would you consider drafting this year?

[birtikidis]

Not a fan of taking OL in the first two. If they happen to be BPA, then fine, but I'd rather have a future signal caller for the D or a weapon for Ben first.
Or you could just make Ben the weapon by giving him time to throw the ball. He has weapons. Two of the best young receivers in the game. Give him time where he can use his improv skills without killing him. Look at what he can do with no time. Now imagine him having time.

[toddjammin]

That was my thought process for the mock draft. Its time to get some talent at the Offensive Tackle and Offensive Guard position. I think Gilbert will develop nice, but I think of him of more of a Right Tackle than Left Tackle.

[Sugar]

Or you could just make Ben the weapon by giving him time to throw the ball. He has weapons. Two of the best young receivers in the game. Give him time where he can use his improv skills without killing him. Look at what he can do with no time. Now imagine him having time.

I don't think it matters for Ben. He'll still hold the ball. He'll still play streetball style. It's his game. It's the way he rolls. IMO, Ben doesn't become more of a weapon with a first round OL than a second or maybe third rounder.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I don't think it matters for Ben. He'll still hold the ball. He'll still play streetball style. It's his game. It's the way he rolls. IMO, Ben doesn't become more of a weapon with a first round OL than a second or maybe third rounder.

Yeah, but with a good offensive line, he'd have 3-4 seconds before he had to start scrambling around and playing streetball (as opposed to now, when he often has less than a second before there is someone in his face and he has to try to escape the pocket). With a crappy line, Ben must manufacture enough time for his receivers to get open. With a good line, they could give him some time initially, and then he could still scramble after that as well for even more time...imagine what Wallace and Brown could do with that much time to get open.

[Oviedo]

Yeah, but with a good offensive line, he'd have 3-4 seconds before he had to start scrambling around and playing streetball (as opposed to now, when he often has less than a second before there is someone in his face and he has to try to escape the pocket). With a crappy line, Ben must manufacture enough time for his receivers to get open. With a good line, they could give him some time initially, and then he could still scramble after that as well for even more time...imagine what Wallace and Brown could do with that much time to get open.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Totally true which is why OL has to be the priority early and often.

[steelblood]

I think that is a good draft overall. Martin's stock is plummeting, and he could be there at 24. I'm not sure he can be a LT in year one, but he could develop in time. In the least he'd be a good RT with some time in an NFL weight room. Osemele is a bit of a project and doesn't always play hard, but he is very strong and has nice athleticism for a G. Chapman is a decent value in the third and should be recovered fully from his ACL by the playoff push. I don't get the fascination with Audie Cole that some have. I've never seen him play very impressively. He doesn't change direction all that well and he is a little tall and gangly for an ILB. I think Sylvestor (who is also gangly) is a better, much more athletic ILB candidate. But, I've been wrong many times before. Streeter in the fifth would be a good project player. He has starter athleticism and size. If he can learn to catch more naturally and run good routes, he could be a great pick. Cody Johnson could make this team as a FB/short yardage runner. Good job!

[ikestops85]

Yeah, but with a good offensive line, he'd have 3-4 seconds before he had to start scrambling around and playing streetball (as opposed to now, when he often has less than a second before there is someone in his face and he has to try to escape the pocket). With a crappy line, Ben must manufacture enough time for his receivers to get open. With a good line, they could give him some time initially, and then he could still scramble after that as well for even more time...imagine what Wallace and Brown could do with that much time to get open.

You hit the nail on the head Ruthless. An improved line could make people fear our play action again as well as giving our talented group of wideouts more time to get open. Could you imagine what opposing safeties would be thinking with Wallace going deep, Miller running the seam and Brown running a crossing pattern with Ben getting just one more second of protection. Who do they cover? We have amazing offensive weapons on this team but we don't have the big uglies to allow them to be used consistently. The only way we get to be elite on offense is to improve our line ... period.

Then we won't have to count on LeBeau's 4th quarter defense as much. :stirpot

[Oviedo]

I think that is a good draft overall. Martin's stock is plummeting, and he could be there at 24. I'm not sure he can be a LT in year one, but he could develop in time. In the least he'd be a good RT with some time in an NFL weight room. Osemele is a bit of a project and doesn't always play hard, but he is very strong and has nice athleticism for a G. Chapman is a decent value in the third and should be recovered fully from his ACL by the playoff push. I don't get the fascination with Audie Cole that some have. I've never seen him play very impressively. He doesn't change direction all that well and he is a little tall and gangly for an ILB. I think Sylvestor (who is also gangly) is a better, much more athletic ILB candidate. But, I've been wrong many times before. Streeter in the fifth would be a good project player. He has starter athleticism and size. If he can learn to catch more naturally and run good routes, he could be a great pick. Cody Johnson could make this team as a FB/short yardage runner. Good job!

I saw Cole play a couple of games this seasons. He always seemed to be around the football and I really didn't see a lack of mobility but I'm not an expert.

Descriptions of Osemele just sound an awful lot like those of Kemo years ago.

I like Streeter as a project.

If you draft Martin, you are going to have to be "all in" with him playing OT because I don't think he can play OG. That means you have to commit to moving Colon to OG this year if you want him on the field. Not sure he would be the right pick. Massie in Round 2 seems to be a guy who could play OG for a year or two and then kick out to OT.

[calmkiller]

which WVU players would you consider drafting this year?

Najee Goode ILB would be a 4th or 5th round pick. Julian Miller DE would be a good pick up with one of our extra 7th rounders. If we are looking for another CB Keith Tandy was the best cover corner on the team last year and will lay the wood as well. I would say Bruce Irvin has great talent but you have to consider his latest arrest for attacking a sign in Jimmy Johns. All I can say about that is maybe the sign looked like a QB?

[MeetJoeGreene]

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by MeetJoeGreene http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=497400#post497400)
Dude! Epic Mock Draft! That is BEAST!

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!

[Shawn]

One of the few mocks I have liked.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!

Uh oh...our 40 days and 40 nights of MJG-free existence is over...that was an EPIC lenten sacrifice that was BEAST!

Welcome back, brother...

[fordfixer]

I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
Welcome back MJG:tt1:tt1