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BigRob
03-20-2012, 05:06 PM
Damn I wish the Steelers would take a look at David Hawthorne. He is a good run stuffing ILB at 6'1" 245lbs that would excel in our system. He is better than Foote right now and could be had for less than the Cowboys got Dan Connor.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2010/08/11/linebacker-david-hawthorne-a-rising-star-for-seahawks/

Oviedo
03-20-2012, 05:11 PM
Given that we are probably saving all our available dollars to retain Wallace we lose out on opportunities to add and strengthen other positions. Could work for us and could work against long term.

RuthlessBurgher
03-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Dallas got Connor at a bargain (Two-year, $6.5 million contract with a $2.7 million signing bonus. Base salaries: 2012 $800,000, 2013 $3 million, 2014 Free Agent).

Hawthorne is a much better player than Connor in my mind. I can't imagine he could be had for less than that (if so, we should sign him to such a deal yesterday). That would be a Farrior-like coup from back in the day.

BigRob
03-20-2012, 05:30 PM
Dallas got Connor at a bargain (Two-year, $6.5 million contract with a $2.7 million signing bonus. Base salaries: 2012 $800,000, 2013 $3 million, 2014 Free Agent).

Hawthorne is a much better player than Connor in my mind. I can't imagine he could be had for less than that (if so, we should sign him to such a deal yesterday). That would be a Farrior-like coup from back in the day.

I think his deal will be similar to Connor's when he signs.

RuthlessBurgher
03-20-2012, 06:16 PM
I think his deal will be similar to Connor's when he signs.

If we could get Hawthorne for Connor's contract, I would do it in a second. Connor's cap hit for this season will be $2.15 million. I believe Larry Foote's cap hit is $3 million. If we cut Foote, we'd save $2.4 million (he'd still count $600K worth of dead money). So replacing Foote with Hawthorne (assuming we could get him for the same money as Connor), would actually SAVE us $250,000 on our 2012 cap. Hawthorne is VASTLY superior to Foote...Foote's only season with 100+ tackles was way back in 2005, while Hawthorne has had 100+ tackles in each of his 3 seasons as a starter (plus 7 interceptions and 15 passes defensed in those 3 seasons, so he is not solely a run-stuffer; meanwhile Foote, who has been in the league for a decade already, has 3 interceptions and 22 passes defensed in his entire career). I seriously doubt this is possible, but if so, sign me up right now.

squidkid
03-20-2012, 09:34 PM
this is the stuff that frustrates the **** out of me. numerous FAs that would really solidify this team for reasonably money but we are always 'up against the cap'. i know we've won x amount of games, yadda yadds yadda, with the way weve done things in the past, but FAs like these could have made us a superbowl winner 2 years ago and have us get past the donkeys last year without breaking the bank. i really get tired of signing nothing but backups(for the vast majority)

Eddie Spaghetti
03-20-2012, 09:43 PM
yadda yadda yadda is the most important part.

AkronSteel
03-20-2012, 10:07 PM
I've been saying this same exact thing about Hawthorne since last fall. He is a perfect fit for our defense. He would look real good next to LT and would take our LB corp back to what it should be. I loved Farrior but he just didn't have it anymore.....he hasn't been the same since Super Bowl XLIII.

Chadman
03-20-2012, 10:21 PM
yadda yadda yadda is the most important part.

:D

It's funny to hear supporters bag the most successful team of all time for their crappy FA/Draft policy.

If only we were more like those Redskins...

Chadman
03-20-2012, 10:23 PM
Hawthorne is, no doubt, a good player.

Can he, or has he ever, been the defensive signal caller like Farrior was & Foote will be asked to be?

Would you rather Hawthorne to Keuchley or Hightower?

Chadman would put Hawthorne lower on the priority list, personally.

RuthlessBurgher
03-20-2012, 10:52 PM
Gimme Hawthorne and use that 1st round pick to improve ourselves elsewhere.

AkronSteel
03-21-2012, 01:39 AM
Gimme Hawthorne and use that 1st round pick to improve ourselves elsewhere.

I agree 100%!! Hawthorne could step in and play right away and won't cost the team a ton of $$$$!!

Steelers>NFL
03-21-2012, 08:11 AM
If Hawthorne is very good, why has he not received any contract offers yet?

phillyesq
03-21-2012, 10:26 AM
Hawthorne is, no doubt, a good player.

Can he, or has he ever, been the defensive signal caller like Farrior was & Foote will be asked to be?

Would you rather Hawthorne to Keuchley or Hightower?

Chadman would put Hawthorne lower on the priority list, personally.

Excellent point. With Farrior gone, I think the Steelers will go with Foote to maintain some continuity for at least a year. Whether Foote or Timmons will ultimately call the defenses, I think the Steelers will opt for somebody familiar with the team.

I'm hoping that the Steelers bring in a young, athletic ILB to groom behind Foote.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
03-21-2012, 11:19 AM
I believe Larry Foote's cap hit is $3 million. If we cut Foote, we'd save $2.4 million (he'd still count $600K worth of dead money).

According to "the site that shant be named", Foote's cap hit this season is $3.6M with $3M in salary and $600K in pro rated SB. So there is another $600K in savings to be had.

Keyplay1
03-22-2012, 12:29 PM
Hey! If there is another Farrior there why not? I saw the following ranking of FA's and since this was an any position ranking of their top 50 it was unusual I thought to see so many ILB's rated so highly.



6. David Hawthorne


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ILB

He ranks behind Tulloch at the postion due his considerable risk of injury. If healthy, he’s on of the league’s best ILBs.



7. Erin Henderson

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ILB

Young, and a huge upside to go with it. An undervalued young star in the making.



8. Manny Lawson

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OLB

This high? He’s in a weak free agent class for his position and he’s deadly against the run.



9. Curtis Lofton

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ILB

More proven than Dan Connor, but less likely to become available. Nevertheless, a young and very solid player.



10. BenJarvis Green-Ellis

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RB

We love that he doesn’t fumble. So to will the teams who woo him.



When we played Seattle they did seem helpless. But I do recall thinking their young defense was going to be a factor. Then as the season went on they did win some quality games. I suppose Hawthorne was a key in all this.

Incidentally, there were hardly any OL on the list at all. The site was called----

http://nfltraderumors.co/2012-nfl-free-agents/

BigRob
03-22-2012, 01:15 PM
If Hawthorne is very good, why has he not received any contract offers yet?


My only guess is that the Seahawks have given him an offer that no one has eclipsed and he has some history of injury.

RuthlessBurgher
04-04-2012, 04:09 PM
The Saints reported signed David Hawthorne to a 5 year deal (haven't seen what the terms of the deal are yet). Damn... They also signed Curtis Lofton to a 5 year deal, so I guess that means that they really expect Goodell to bring the hammer down hard on Jonathan Vilma for being the guy to put up $10,000 on Brett Favre's head in the Bountygate scandal. He won't be a Saint much longer.