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D Rock
03-13-2012, 05:39 PM
That's the early reported number Pierre Garcon will get from the Redskins that is floating around the Yahoo free agency twitter tracker


yikes!

Oviedo
03-13-2012, 05:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if that is what he is looking for in a 5 year deal of about $35M with $21M guaranteed. Not sure he gets that from the Steelers.

Oviedo
03-13-2012, 05:45 PM
Just saw that the Saints resigned Colston for 5 years $40M with $19 guaranteed. The market for Wallace is now set.


Wide receiver Marques Colston (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9838/marques-colston) agreed to a five-year contract to stay with the New Orleans Saints (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-saints), the team announced Tuesday.
The deal is worth around $40 million and includes about $19 million in guarantees, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton. Colston was one of the key free agents the Saints couldn't afford to lose.


I'd be shocked if the Steelers give that to Wallace given they have Brown, Sanders and could resign Cotchery for far less. Wallace would definitely be a loss but the reality is we don't have any cap space to match those numbers until the big cap jump in 2014.

D Rock
03-13-2012, 05:47 PM
Garcon's deal is 5 years, 42.5 mil, 21.5 guaranteed

8.5 per year for Garcon, 8 per year for Colston. Wallace will want 10 now.

This is getting really ugly. I'm scared to see what the Bucs offer Vincent Jackson...they have a TON of cap space to use. The WR market is waaayyy overpriced now.

Crash
03-13-2012, 05:48 PM
Rumors are flying that Wallace is on his way to SF to meet with the 49ers.

Oviedo
03-13-2012, 05:49 PM
Garcon's deal is 5 years, 42.5 mil, 21.5 guaranteed

8.5 per year for Garcon, 8 per year for Colston. Wallace will want 10 now.

This is getting really ugly. I'm scared to see what the Bucs offer Vincent Jackson...they have a TON of cap space to use. The WR market is waaayyy overpriced now.

That Round 1 pick is starting to look real good now isn't it??????

costanza2k1
03-13-2012, 05:52 PM
Rumors are flying that Wallace is on his way to SF to meet with the 49ers.

2-1st picks for us:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYfu5E-hOE

D Rock
03-13-2012, 05:53 PM
That Round 1 pick is starting to look real good now isn't it??????

depends...is it a top 20 pick??

Crash
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
So they can draft an ILB and NT with them?

RuthlessBurgher
03-13-2012, 06:10 PM
The Redskins are the new Raiders...pay no attention to the morons over there...their stupid trades and stupid contracts are not going to impact what smart and savvy teams do. Give a guy who is nothing without Peyton Manning $8.5 million a year with $21.5 million guaranteed? Brilliant!

But would I give the Colston deal to Wallace? Yes, I would. Of course, it would be structured as such to minimize the cap hit early in the contract, but, yeah, that's about what I expect.

BigRob
03-13-2012, 06:26 PM
Rumors are flying that Wallace is on his way to SF to meet with the 49ers.

Rumors from where? If they are coming from my ass, they wouldn't be real accurate would they?

Chadman
03-13-2012, 06:38 PM
Rumors from where? If they are coming from my ass, they wouldn't be real accurate would they?

Are they coming from your ass?

D Rock
03-13-2012, 06:38 PM
The Redskins are the new Raiders...pay no attention to the morons over there...their stupid trades and stupid contracts are not going to impact what smart and savvy teams do. Give a guy who is nothing without Peyton Manning $8.5 million a year with $21.5 million guaranteed? Brilliant!

But would I give the Colston deal to Wallace? Yes, I would. Of course, it would be structured as such to minimize the cap hit early in the contract, but, yeah, that's about what I expect.


They really want to get some weapons for RG3. They've also signed Josh Morgan and now Eddie Royal. 3 WRs within 2.5 hours of free agency beginning.

BigRob
03-13-2012, 06:41 PM
Possibly. :eek:

Chadman
03-13-2012, 06:45 PM
Possibly. :eek:

Well, at least we now know the source...

RuthlessBurgher
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
They really want to get some weapons for RG3. They've also signed Josh Morgan and now Eddie Royal. 3 WRs within 2.5 hours of free agency beginning.

Unfortunately, they are all secondary receivers. If you are going to spend big money, then at least spend to get a true #1 guy (in this market, I'd say a Vincent Jackson), then find #2 or #3 receivers later on during the free agent period when they will be cheaper. They just love paying #2 or #3 wideouts like #1 wideouts, thinking that somehow that investment will turn a guy into the #1 that they want him to be. It's like they didn't learn a thing from the Randle El signing.

Chadman
03-13-2012, 06:50 PM
Mediocrity reigns!

squidkid
03-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Rumors are flying that Wallace is on his way to SF to meet with the 49ers.

Sweet, Make it happen S.F.

D Rock
03-13-2012, 08:25 PM
And here's the bad news I've been dreading...

Vincent Jackson has agreed to terms with Tampa Bay

5 yrs, 55.55 millions, 26 guaranteed


11+ million/year. Just ridiculous.

BigRob
03-13-2012, 08:30 PM
And here's the bad news I've been dreading...

Vincent Jackson has agreed to terms with Tampa Bay

5 yrs, 55.55 millions, 26 guaranteed


11+ million/year. Just ridiculous.

How good would Wallace look to the 49'ers now? I am sure they can get Wallace for cheaper than that.

Lebsteel
03-13-2012, 08:41 PM
How good would Wallace look to the 49'ers now? I am sure they can get Wallace for cheaper than that.
You don't think Wallace will take a discount to stay with the Steelers and sign for maybe $7 million per year? :stirpot

Oviedo
03-13-2012, 08:45 PM
The market for WR has gotten insane. I guess this really means we are a passing league. I really doubt we can resign Wallace long term now if this is the range for a #1 WR. More per season than Harrison, Woodley, Timmons, Polamalu, etc. This is almost as much as Ben makes. IMO no way the Steelers go to those levels.

Lebsteel
03-13-2012, 08:49 PM
The market for WR has gotten insane. I guess this really means we are a passing league. I really doubt we can resign Wallace long term now if this is the range for a #1 WR. More per season than Harrison, Woodley, Timmons, Polamalu, etc. This is almost as much as Ben makes. IMO no way the Steelers go to those levels.
I really hope you are right. Hopefully the Steelers can rise above the madness.

Chadman
03-13-2012, 08:53 PM
As Chadman has said several times- the Steelers rarely lose a player they WANT to keep. Last one from memory is Chad Brown.

How much would we like to bet that these $7 million- $8 million figures are "pie in the sky" & we'll see Wallace sign to a contract that suits his employer as much as the employee?

Crash
03-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Vincent Jackson deal in Tampa: 5 yrs, $55.55 million, including $26 million guaranteed

D Rock
03-13-2012, 08:59 PM
Vincent Jackson deal in Tampa: 5 yrs, $55.55 million, including $26 million guaranteed

you got a source or are you just spouting off here?

D Rock
03-13-2012, 09:00 PM
absolute max Wallace should get is 9 mil/year. That was do-able an hour ago...

Lebsteel
03-13-2012, 09:02 PM
Chadman, do you think 5 years and $30 mil will get it done when Jackson signs for 5 and $55.5 mil? I guess it would be a great "deal" if he did.

Chadman
03-13-2012, 09:10 PM
Chadman, do you think 5 years and $30 mil will get it done when Jackson signs for 5 and $55.5 mil? I guess it would be a great "deal" if he did.

Probably not. But here's betting the first few years won't be too restraining on the Cap & that it 'balloons' in the last few years in conjuction with the expected Salary Cap explosion...

grotonsteel
03-13-2012, 09:20 PM
you got a source or are you just spouting off here?

Not sure about Crash source but i read it on Yahoo

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/vincent-jackson-agrees-terms-buccaneers-004241466.html

grotonsteel
03-13-2012, 09:26 PM
You don't think Wallace will take a discount to stay with the Steelers and sign for maybe $7 million per year? :stirpot

Maybe 5yrs/45 million with 20 million guaranteed???

D Rock
03-13-2012, 09:35 PM
Not sure about Crash source but i read it on Yahoo

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/vincent-jackson-agrees-terms-buccaneers-004241466.html


I was just messing around because I had already posted the numbers in this thread.

phillyesq
03-14-2012, 07:31 AM
Jackson's deal is really something like a two year deal. No signing bonus and no guaranteed money after the first two years.

D Rock
03-14-2012, 07:48 AM
Meachem's deal from the Chargers is listed at 4 yrs/25.9 mil



WalterFootball is doing a great job tracking FA moves and contract numbers

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012WR.php