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BigRob
03-07-2012, 07:20 PM
:D

You don't take a 2-down ILB'er in the first round. Period. The Steelers will not either.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... nfl_t2_a15 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/03/01/pro.days/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a15)

Hightower showed some stiffness changing direction and was not quick in coverage drills. His backpedal looked mechanical and forced, while Hightower showed little in the way of being able to burst out of his plant. He's a big, forceful linebacker with solid straight line speed, but Hightower did nothing today to dispel the belief he's a two-down defender.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z1oTZif2td (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/03/01/pro.days/index.html#ixzz1oTZif2td)

Flasteel
03-07-2012, 07:30 PM
This should be fun. :stirpot

Slapstick
03-07-2012, 07:33 PM
I'd definitely trade up for him in the 2nd...

eniparadoxgma
03-07-2012, 07:53 PM
Who?

isonator07
03-07-2012, 07:58 PM
:D

You don't take a 2-down ILB'er in the first round. Period. The Steelers will not either.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... nfl_t2_a15 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/03/01/pro.days/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a15)

Hightower showed some stiffness changing direction and was not quick in coverage drills. His backpedal looked mechanical and forced, while Hightower showed little in the way of being able to burst out of his plant. He's a big, forceful linebacker with solid straight line speed, but Hightower did nothing today to dispel the belief he's a two-down defender.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z1oTZif2td (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/03/01/pro.days/index.html#ixzz1oTZif2td)


I don't care what Sports Illustrated says about Hightower. I've watched him play since he was in pop warner....every game, every snap. I even watched every game of Madden he's played. :D

Chadman
03-07-2012, 08:02 PM
Who?

Massive Brilliance- that's who.

eniparadoxgma
03-07-2012, 08:34 PM
Who?

Massive Brilliance- that's who.

OH! Why didn't he just say that? :D

Dee Dub
03-07-2012, 08:57 PM
I'm not even gonna go there. :roll:

eniparadoxgma
03-07-2012, 09:24 PM
Go where? I'm remembering Hightower now and I'm thinking he would be a great addition to the team if it wasn't for his age. I mean, I'd say he was past his prime by the last Police Academy movie...




Edit: Wasn't aware Bubba Smith was dead. RIP.

hawaiiansteel
03-07-2012, 10:09 PM
Who?

:D

not sure, haven't really heard a lot about this Hightower kid here on this board but from what I have read Dont'a is a 2-down LB who is a liability in pass coverage. :stirpot

pfelix73
03-07-2012, 11:58 PM
Tim Hightower? I thought that he's a RB in AZ.... :shock:

So, just who is a 1st rounder then? I get a kick out of these articles....

I can see it now- we'll pass on him- he goes to Balt. and he's the next Ray Lewis Jr for the Rats for the next 13 yrs..... AND we sign Tim to a FA contract for a year or 2.

:tt1

JUST.PLAIN.NASTY
03-08-2012, 09:39 AM
I can't get logged on to my old screen name but I'm sure you could figure it out. I believe Hightower is a 1st rounder. I would just hope the Steelers try and move back if they want him.

steelz09
03-08-2012, 09:46 AM
I can't get logged on to my old screen name but I'm sure you could figure it out. I believe Hightower is a 1st rounder. I would just hope the Steelers try and move back if they want him.

did you reset your password and check your email?

JUST.PLAIN.NASTY
03-08-2012, 09:48 AM
did you reset your password and check your email?

It says it doesn't recognize email. Don't even know if I had email on file. I could give you all possible emails I have. Can't you just reset my password and email to this account so I could log on?

feltdizz
03-08-2012, 09:50 AM
Is this why Hightower didn't do the cones at the combine? Everyone on here who questioned his coverage ability used the exact words this guy used. Stiff, mechanical, etc...

I wonder if our FO thinks he is first round material...

JUST.PLAIN.NASTY
03-08-2012, 09:58 AM
Is this why Hightower didn't do the cones at the combine? Everyone on here who questioned his coverage ability used the exact words this guy used. Stiff, mechanical, etc...

I wonder if our FO thinks he is first round material...
He didn't do his cones but he did look stiff in his position drills. Keep in mind though that it is in comparison to much more fluid players too. I watched the drills. He is very capable of making a zone drop and running with someone who crosses his zone. If he gets caught in man on a RB on a wheel route or if he is left in space on a dump off it is a bad matchup with a Rice-Drew type. He can run the seam with a TE but if the TE runs any type of cut route he will trail more and more. His ability to stop the run is very good. He can diagnose pretty good and closes well. He will over run some cutback runs and get caught flat footed against the shiftier backs but many NFL players do.

feltdizz
03-08-2012, 11:18 AM
would you pull the trigger at 24?

steelz09
03-08-2012, 11:28 AM
I would pull the trigger. He may not be my 1st choice, but I don't think it's a reach to draft Hightower at 24

ikestops85
03-08-2012, 12:22 PM
Tomlin didn't even care enough to go to his pro day :stirpot

steeler_george
03-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Tomlin didn't even care enough to go to his pro day :stirpot

Hmmm I didn't think of that, when I read Colbert was there.

grotonsteel
03-08-2012, 04:47 PM
It says it doesn't recognize email. Don't even know if I had email on file. I could give you all possible emails I have. Can't you just reset my password and email to this account so I could log on?

I had same issue. I dropped an email to John at jhansler9@gmail.com with my new email address.

What John did was update my account with new email address and then i was able to reset the password.

hawaiiansteel
03-09-2012, 12:38 AM
Tomlin didn't even care enough to go to his pro day :stirpot



smokescreen...:wink:

steelblood
03-09-2012, 10:18 AM
I'm becoming less and less happy with Hightower in the first. I think he'd be a good run stuffer and pass rusher. But, he is awfully stiff and doesn't have great COD. In today's pass happy NFL, you need LBers who can cover (especially inside backers in our D). I think I'd prefer Bobby Wagner or Kendricks in the 2nd or James-Michael Johnson a little later. I feel these guys can still stop the run, but also have better agility and mobility in pass coverage.

I guess what I keep asking myself is how will Hightower help us beat the Pats or the Packers? In the end, I feel like he will become a target which is not what I want from our first rounder.

steelz09
03-09-2012, 11:04 AM
smokescreen...:wink:

Tomlin better hope some of his finesse LB's that he drafted (outside of Woodley) start developing.

grotonsteel
03-09-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm becoming less and less happy with Hightower in the first. I think he'd be a good run stuffer and pass rusher. But, he is awfully stiff and doesn't have great COD. In today's pass happy NFL, you need LBers who can cover (especially inside backers in our D). I think I'd prefer Bobby Wagner or Kendricks in the 2nd or James-Michael Johnson a little later. I feel these guys can still stop the run, but also have better agility and mobility in pass coverage.

I guess what I keep asking myself is how will Hightower help us beat the Pats or the Packers? In the end, I feel like he will become a target which is not what I want from our first rounder.

Can we defeat Ravens and Bengals by drafting Donta? I am not sure.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/07/kirkpatrick-wows-during-alabamas-pro-day/
Dont’a Hightower, LB (6-2 1/8, 265) — Stood on his combine numbers, except he posted a 9-foot-9 broad jump. He also had a 4.68 short shuttle and a 7.55 cone drill. He worked really well. He’s one of those guys who helped himself. I view him as a high second-round pick.

My preference is DeMario Davis from Ark State in Rd 3. I think he is more explosive than Donta.

Steelersrock151
03-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Just don't see how Hightower could make it to day two, unless there is a serious shake up at the top of the draft (run on qbs, dts, corners). If we don't take him, either the Ravens or the Cheatriots will. He's not my first choice, mind you (that would be DeCastro or Glenn), but if he's the best available player at a position of need, then we have to pull the trigger.

steelz09
03-09-2012, 01:49 PM
He won't make it past both the Rats and the Pats.

The rats will follow-up the Lewis era w/ Hightower. McClain, Hightower, Suggs and Co.... great. The Ravens are already built to beat the Steelers and this certainly won't hurt them any.

Dee Dub
03-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Can we defeat Ravens and Bengals by drafting Donta? I am not sure.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/07/kirkpatrick-wows-during-alabamas-pro-day/
Dont’a Hightower, LB (6-2 1/8, 265) — Stood on his combine numbers, except he posted a 9-foot-9 broad jump. He also had a 4.68 short shuttle and a 7.55 cone drill. He worked really well. He’s one of those guys who helped himself. I view him as a high second-round pick.

My preference is DeMario Davis from Ark State in Rd 3. I think he is more explosive than Donta.

Let's see....do the Ravens run the football? Is their number one offensive weapon a RB? Yes! Yes!

DeMario Davis at this point is another Stevenson Sylvester. A player who they dont know whether he can play in their 3-4. And with Sylvester, they've had him for two years and still dont know.

Dee Dub
03-09-2012, 02:11 PM
He won't make it past both the Rats and the Pats.

The rats will follow-up the Lewis era w/ Hightower. McClain, Hightower, Suggs and Co.... great. The Ravens are already built to beat the Steelers and this certainly won't hurt them any.

Exactly! I have been saying this for the past two months. Ravens will take him in a heart beat. I wish some people would go and watch some film of Hightower. He was used by Saban in so many ways. ILB, OLB, DE and was utilized on 3rd downs all the time. He is a better cover guy than some think. What he lacks in COD, hips, plant and go, and breaking on the ball, he makes up for by being very instinctive and quick in his reads. Also, what he does once he gets to a ball carrier should not be overlooked either.

hawaiiansteel
03-10-2012, 07:46 PM
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ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. has the Steelers taking Alabama linebacker Dont’a Hightower in the first round of his most recent mock draft.

Kiper, during a conference call Thursday afternoon, said the 6-2 ½, 265-pound Hightower has answered any questions about the torn ACL he suffered his sophomore season at Alabama.

“He’s getting back to the form he showed early on,” Kiper said. “How many 265-pound linebackers can run and get the job done like he can? There’s a lot of roles he could play but in Pittsburgh he would be a key addition.”

The Steelers conducted a formal interview with Hightower at the NFL Combine late last month. Their need for a linebacker such as Hightower has only increased following the release of James Farrior.

Hightower ran a 4.68 in the 40 at the Combine, which won’t dazzle teams but should convince them that his speed won’t be an issue at the next level. I get the sense that the Steelers are trying to determine if Hightower is truly a first-round prospect and that they want to be certain their evaluation of him isn’t skewed by two factors.

They are: The help the Steelers need at inside linebacker and the reality that if they don’t take one early they might not find a long-term replacement for Farrior.

General manager Kevin Colbert attended the first of two Alabama Pro Days Wednesday in Tuscaloosa. The Steelers can get another look at Hightower at the end of the month when Alabama stages a second workout for draft prospects.

Two other items of note from Kiper’s conference call:

– Kiper said comparisons between Memphis defensive tackle
Dontari Poe and Ravens Pro Bowl defensive tackle Haloti Ngata are premature if not off base.

But Kiper is of the belief that Poe, who blew away teams at the Combine with his blend of size, strength and speed, will be gone well before the Steelers make their first-round pick (No. 24 overall).

“He’s not as intense, not as physical as some of the other defensive tackles for a player his size,” Kiper said of Poe. “But he moves so well and had such a great workout. I think he could go in the top 15.

“I don’t think he’s going to be Haloti Ngata. I think that’s a little bit of a stretch to say he’s going to be that type of player but certainly there’s going to be an opportunity for him to go pretty high in the first round.”

– Kiper apparently doesn’t share Devon Still’s belief that the Penn State product is the best defensive tackle in the draft.

Kiper has Still, who made his bold claim at the Combine, slipping into the second round of the draft.

Kiper said Still’s injury history and the fact that he was a “one-year wonder” at Penn State are potential red flags. Still, he added, hasn’t “wowed” teams during the pre-draft process though Kiper called him a “a big kid with rare physical ability.”

“I thought about Pittsburgh for him,” Kiper said of Still and the first round of his latest mock draft. “Denver could use him but I ultimately pushed him into the second round.”
– Scott Brown

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