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flippy
03-02-2012, 11:16 PM
Do you put the best 4 on the field now that Farrior is gone?

And if so, does that mean seeing if Worldis can play inside?

It's always nice to have a 3rd down pass rush specialist and a rotation on the outside.

But Worldis seems ready to take the next step into becoming a starter. But there's no path for him to get ahead of Harrison or Woodley.

But he just might be a better than Foote. The Steelers have to be considering this as an option.

Eddie Spaghetti
03-02-2012, 11:19 PM
I haven't seen anything from worilds that suggests he can move inside.

Chucktownsteeler
03-02-2012, 11:44 PM
I don't think our best 4 our on the roster right now. We have 3 of 4, but we either pick up one as a FA or draft Donte Hightower in the first round.

I would like to see:

Harrison
Woodley
Timmons
Hightower


C-town

:Beer

Dee Dub
03-02-2012, 11:50 PM
I don't think our best 4 our on the roster right now. We have 3 of 4, but we either pick up one as a FA or draft Donte Hightower in the first round.

I would like to see:

Harrison
Woodley
Timmons
Hightower


C-town

:Beer

Chucktown...I like your style. :tt2

flippy
03-02-2012, 11:58 PM
I haven't seen anything from worilds that suggests he can move inside.

I haven't seen anything to suggest he couldn't.

He's got the size, speed, and athleticism. He may even be a better athlete than Timmons. He's quick for a guy that big. And I thought he even bulked up a bit this past season.

If I'm him, I'd be calling Butler, Lebeau, and Tomlin asking for a chance inside. These football players want to play rather than sit behind 2 ProBowl calibre LBs for who knows how long.

Another thought would be could you move Harrison or Woodley inside to get Worlids on the field on the outside.

Eddie Spaghetti
03-03-2012, 12:06 AM
weak at the point of attack
gets caught up in the wash
runs himself out of plays

not the attributes I look for in an ILB.

and there is no way he is a better athlete than timmons. Not even close. How about we worry about guys that can play great football instead of bing a great athlete.

Chadman
03-03-2012, 02:29 AM
Chadman gets what you're saying Flippy.

Could he play ILB? Don't know. Pretty sure the coaches would have it sussed out by now if he can or not & Training Camp might give an indication.

That said- Foote will start at ILB (to the chagrin of the multitude of Massive Brilliance worshippers) because he will be the teams signal caller, much the same way Farrior was. In fact, it was only last season that both Farrior & LeBeau praised Foote for his ability to step in & call the plays at a moments notice.

Foote is underappreciated.

Steelerphile
03-03-2012, 06:01 AM
Anybody give a thought to moving Harrison inside? I think it should be a consideration. He is big and strong and can handle the traffic. His running speed seems to be slipping a little and this might be a better place for him at this point in his career.

Then they could give Worilds the OLB spot. I was encouraged by Worilds performance. If he takes another step, he could turn out pretty well.

Shawn
03-03-2012, 09:15 AM
weak at the point of attack
gets caught up in the wash
runs himself out of plays

not the attributes I look for in an ILB.

and there is no way he is a better athlete than timmons. Not even close. How about we worry about guys that can play great football instead of bing a great athlete.

You have observed what I have observed. Those traits make a poor OLB, and an even worse ILB. He has much improvement to do before seeing significant time from any position.

Discipline of Steel
03-03-2012, 10:20 AM
I would rather give Sylvester the opportunity than Worilds. Sylvester has shown flashes of brilliance as opposed to flashes of competance.

Steel Life
03-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Anybody give a thought to moving Harrison inside? I think it should be a consideration. He is big and strong and can handle the traffic. His running speed seems to be slipping a little and this might be a better place for him at this point in his career.

Then they could give Worilds the OLB spot. I was encouraged by Worilds performance. If he takes another step, he could turn out pretty well.
:Agree

D Rock
03-03-2012, 11:02 AM
I'd still like to see what Dan Connor's price tag is going to be in free agency before anointing Hightower as the first round pick.

AkronSteel
03-03-2012, 11:35 AM
If I had my choice....our starting 4 LB's next year would be:

OLB: Harrison
ILB: Timmons
ILB: David Hawthorne
OLB: Woodley

Backups:
Worilds
Chris Carter
Stevenson Sylvester
Rookie ILB or Mortty Ivy

That would be my own personal choice!!!

RuthlessBurgher
03-03-2012, 05:20 PM
If I had my choice....our starting 4 LB's next year would be:

OLB: Harrison
ILB: Timmons
ILB: David Hawthorne
OLB: Woodley

Backups:
Worilds
Chris Carter
Stevenson Sylvester
Rookie ILB or Mortty Ivy

That would be my own personal choice!!!

I like Hawthorne too (nobody knows who he is because no one pays attention to Seattle). Could be an under-the-radar type of signing similar to when we brought in Farrior back in the day.

RuthlessBurgher
03-03-2012, 05:21 PM
I would rather give Sylvester the opportunity than Worilds. Sylvester has shown flashes of brilliance as opposed to flashes of competance.

Flashes of Brilliance cannot possibly compare to Massive Brilliance!!! :lol:

RuthlessBurgher
03-03-2012, 05:31 PM
Moving Worilds inside is not enough of a flippy-style suggestion. I expect flippy to really go outside the box...like starting Hood-McLendon-Timmons up front (or Casey at NT if he stays), and moving Keisel to ILB next to Timmons. Keisel's easily the most athletic guy on the Steelers for his size (kind of the opposite of saying a featherweight boxer is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world)...teammates vouch for him as the best basketball player on the team. He's at least as fast as Farrior was over the last few seasons, and about 10 lbs heavier than Kirkland was (and his 285 lbs are spread out over a 6'5" frame as opposed to Kirk carrying 275 lbs on a stocky 6'1" build). Think anyone wants to run up the gut against the Diesel with a full head of steam (remember how good he was running down kicks once upon a time)? However, Keisel won't have any solo tackles as an ILB...for every tackle, an assist will be given to Da Beard!!! Now THAT's the type of suggestion that I expect from flippy. You're welcome. :wink:

Shoe
03-03-2012, 09:54 PM
I agree, that the only thing Worilds might have in terms of ILB is a stoutish body that many ILBs have... in that regard, so does Silverback BTW. But as far as I know, he (nor James) has ever played ILB, so it's a tremendous projection to put him there.

I also think Foote is the starter, someone who can play just as well as (old) Farrior at a reasonable price.

AND I agree that I'd like to see Stevenson Sylvester make that next leap into potential starter role.

One thing I DON'T agree with, is taking Donta Hightower. Not to say he won't be a solid pro (I don't like his lack of speed though... I've said that before.) We have many other holes that should be addressed before we spend it on a limited but solid player (IMO) like Hightower. We're stocked with that type on D: Hood, Heyward... guys who are solid at best. We need potential impact players.

Now on O, we need that type.

Slapstick
03-04-2012, 12:00 AM
For a time, prior to 2007 when he became a starter, Harrison was the top backup at both OLB positions AND at Mack ILB...

Just saying...

Shoe
03-04-2012, 12:39 AM
For a time, prior to 2007 when he became a starter, Harrison was the top backup at both OLB positions AND at Mack ILB...

Just saying...

Interesting.
BTW, for the record, I think our best prospect at LB isn't Worilds. I think Worilds is/could become a solid player (i.e. Haggans, Gildon).

I have a hunch about Chris Carter. That's why I'm against picking a guy like Hightower.

D Rock
03-04-2012, 03:48 PM
For a time, prior to 2007 when he became a starter, Harrison was the top backup at both OLB positions AND at Mack ILB...

Just saying...

Interesting.
BTW, for the record, I think our best prospect at LB isn't Worilds. I think Worilds is/could become a solid player (i.e. Haggans, Gildon).

I have a hunch about Chris Carter. That's why I'm against picking a guy like Hightower.


they play different positions...

steelernation77
03-04-2012, 03:55 PM
Larry Grant from San Francisco could be an interesting FA pick-up.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1M8NCO.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/05/SPV71M8NCO.DTL)

flippy
03-05-2012, 12:20 PM
Moving Worilds inside is not enough of a flippy-style suggestion. I expect flippy to really go outside the box...like starting Hood-McLendon-Timmons up front (or Casey at NT if he stays), and moving Keisel to ILB next to Timmons. Keisel's easily the most athletic guy on the Steelers for his size (kind of the opposite of saying a featherweight boxer is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world)...teammates vouch for him as the best basketball player on the team. He's at least as fast as Farrior was over the last few seasons, and about 10 lbs heavier than Kirkland was (and his 285 lbs are spread out over a 6'5" frame as opposed to Kirk carrying 275 lbs on a stocky 6'1" build). Think anyone wants to run up the gut against the Diesel with a full head of steam (remember how good he was running down kicks once upon a time)? However, Keisel won't have any solo tackles as an ILB...for every tackle, an assist will be given to Da Beard!!! Now THAT's the type of suggestion that I expect from flippy. You're welcome. :wink:


I think I've suggested this before.

You could have Ziggy, Hampton, and Heyward up front and move the athletic Keisel to ILB.

Heck, we could draft Devon Still to add to the DLine and have a potential future line of Still, Ziggy, and Heyward.

And if Lebeau wants to get creative, he can really mix and match the front 7 and allow some of these guys to be used in multiple positions.

aggiebones
03-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Worilds is not a better ILB than he would be an OLB. Maybe he progesses enough to replace Harrison in a few years. He'll have plenty of opportunities to show he can.

Timmons is solid on one. Foote will START on the other side, but Sylvester will play plenty in that spot. He'll also get chances to replace Foote starting in 2013-14 or even late in the year. But not at the beginning of 2012-13