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flippy
03-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Hines Ward is like the modern day Jack Lambert of this team.

Instead of the snarl, you get the smile.

Both weren't the perfect size, speed, athlete for their respective positions.

Both got way more out of their bodies than any reasonable person should.

Neither was the best player on their team or even their unit. But they set the tone for their respective teams.

They both played with this enormous chip on their shoulders with something to prove.

They were both feared.

Both inside their opponents heads before kickoff.

Both of these guys were infectious.

And they were fearless.

The thing that always set Hines apart for me from every other WR I've ever watched was his ability and willingness to block guys who's numbers start with 9s. You just don't see that outside of the Steelers games. Heck, even the 150 lb Randle El leveled the 350lb Pat Williams to spring Big Ben for a TD run. And that kind of stuff never happens if you don't have Hines setting the tone.

I'd even go as far to say the defense has to hit so hard and take so many fines so they dont look softer than the offense and Ward.

We've been lucky to have Ward for so many years. And I'm probably going to be in mourning until our next SuperBowl victory.

The Steelers will never be the same.

RuthlessBurgher
03-01-2012, 07:14 PM
Nice comparisons, flip! Well done... :Clap

:tt2 :tt1

skyhawk
03-01-2012, 08:07 PM
Nice comparisons, flip! Well done... :Clap

:tt2 :tt1

Agreed! Nice job Flip. :Agree :Clap :Beer :tt2

I will miss Hines never going down on a tackle or running out of bounds but instead lowering his shoulder or stiff arming. It would pump me up. Just think what it does to those who play. I am pretty sure I saw at least 990 of Wards 1000 regular season catches!! Will never forget him!

Eddie Spaghetti
03-01-2012, 09:02 PM
amen.

steelz09
03-01-2012, 09:20 PM
I hear ya.

Aaron Smith is done and injury prove that over the past several years...

Farrior might ... and I mean, might have 1 more year in him which is incredible (38 at ILB??)

Ward I still think could have contributed next year. I don't trust that Sanders won't get injured or that we'll sign Crothcery so where would that leave us depth wise?

Heres hoping that the Steelers will sign back Ward at a reduced salary for 1 last year.

Chadman
03-01-2012, 09:52 PM
The true value of Hines was that he made the others around him play better. That's a real quality that so many players lack. And he can give focus to a team. When Ward was switched on, really switched on, the Steelers played at a different tempo.

In future years we may look back & realise that Hines Ward, through his aggressive run support, has revolusionised the WR position for future years.

We may have been lucky to see a real 'Game changer'.

Steelers>NFL
03-01-2012, 10:26 PM
Nice comparisons, flip! Well done... :Clap

:tt2 :tt1

Agreed! Nice job Flip. :Agree :Clap :Beer :tt2

I will miss Hines never going down on a tackle or running out of bounds but instead lowering his shoulder or stiff arming. It would pump me up. Just think what it does to those who play. I am pretty sure I saw at least 990 of Wards 1000 regular season catches!! Will never forget him!
X2 all of the above.

Chucktownsteeler
03-01-2012, 10:53 PM
Very god post, Flippy.

I had the honor to meet Hines last summer and he came across as the nicest, down to earth person you could expect from an athlete.

He will be one of my all-time favorites and I am torn to wanting to see him play again or not. I just don't know.

Nice post!

C-town


:2c

SidSmythe
03-02-2012, 12:52 AM
Someone posted at the bottom of the ESPN story.

"Don't cry b/c it's over. Rather smile b/c it happened"

:tt1

NottinghamForest_UK
03-02-2012, 06:50 AM
Nice post Flippy!

Think we are all having a hard time over this, hopefully one day he'll be back in some coaching capacity! Thanks for everything Hines!

ikestops85
03-02-2012, 11:08 AM
Someone posted at the bottom of the ESPN story.

"Don't cry b/c it's over. Rather smile b/c it happened"

:tt1

My wife will like that quote. She is very upset about Hines leaving.

aggiebones
03-02-2012, 12:21 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. Find the room and the veteran minimum money for a farewell season. This epitomized him and what he meant to the organization:
(from Wetzel article)
* I remember Ward walking out with Roethlisberger on the first day of training camp 2010, just in case the public hadn’t forgiven the quarterback. “If they boo you, they’re booing me and they’re booing the organization,” Ward told him.

* But what about the alleged rivalry between the two? “It’s a big brother-little brother thing,” Ward explained. “We get on each other’s nerves but there are never bad feelings.”

RussBII
03-02-2012, 12:41 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. ”

I think he'd be WR5 if Cotchery comes back. And a 5th WR who doesn't play Special Teams, at 925K/year Veteran Minimum? No team will do that.

I'm said they had to let him go but I'm frustrated he didn't just walk way. The writing was on the wall.

That being said, 86 is one of my all time favorites. I hope they have the good sense to not give out that number for at least 20 to 30 years.

RuthlessBurgher
03-02-2012, 01:20 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. ”

I think he'd be WR5 if Cotchery comes back. And a 5th WR who doesn't play Special Teams, at 925K/year Veteran Minimum? No team will do that.

I'm said they had to let him go but I'm frustrated he didn't just walk way. The writing was on the wall.

That being said, 86 is one of my all time favorites. I hope they have the good sense to not give out that number for at least 20 to 30 years.

Numerous wideouts have been wearing Stallworth's 82 and Swann's 88 for years (there are only so many numbers that you can give to WR's and TE's, so a number in the 80's will need to be recycled since teams carry so many wideouts and tight ends).

Also consider that Rod Woodson left after the 1996 season. By 1998, rookie Deshea Townsend already was wearing Rod's 26.

RussBII
03-02-2012, 03:24 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. ”

I think he'd be WR5 if Cotchery comes back. And a 5th WR who doesn't play Special Teams, at 925K/year Veteran Minimum? No team will do that.

I'm said they had to let him go but I'm frustrated he didn't just walk way. The writing was on the wall.

That being said, 86 is one of my all time favorites. I hope they have the good sense to not give out that number for at least 20 to 30 years.

Numerous wideouts have been wearing Stallworth's 82 and Swann's 88 for years (there are only so many numbers that you can give to WR's and TE's, so a number in the 80's will need to be recycled since teams carry so many wideouts and tight ends).

Also consider that Rod Woodson left after the 1996 season. By 1998, rookie Deshea Townsend already was wearing Rod's 26.

Oh i know, but at least give him a few years, ya know? 20 or 30 is obviously not going to happen.

NC Steeler Fan
03-02-2012, 04:12 PM
I may never get over this one...

The only thing that would hurt worse would be to see him in another
team's colors. That I just couldn't watch.

Dee Dub
03-02-2012, 04:17 PM
I'm not having a hard time getting over this. The 46 receptions on only 386 yards and only 2 TD's and the fact that he will be 36 next year has actually made it not so hard at all.

I wonder how Crash feels about this?

feltdizz
03-02-2012, 04:19 PM
I'm not having a hard time getting over this. The 46 receptions on only 386 yards and only 2 TD's and the fact that he will be 36 next year has actually made it not so hard at all.

I wonder how Crash feels about this?

:Boobs :Boobs :Boobs

flippy
03-02-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. ”

I think he'd be WR5 if Cotchery comes back. And a 5th WR who doesn't play Special Teams, at 925K/year Veteran Minimum? No team will do that.

I'm said they had to let him go but I'm frustrated he didn't just walk way. The writing was on the wall.

That being said, 86 is one of my all time favorites. I hope they have the good sense to not give out that number for at least 20 to 30 years.

Numerous wideouts have been wearing Stallworth's 82 and Swann's 88 for years (there are only so many numbers that you can give to WR's and TE's, so a number in the 80's will need to be recycled since teams carry so many wideouts and tight ends).

Also consider that Rod Woodson left after the 1996 season. By 1998, rookie Deshea Townsend already was wearing Rod's 26.

Oh i know, but at least give him a few years, ya know? 20 or 30 is obviously not going to happen.

80, 81, and 86 are the only numbers available right now.

So if they draft or sign 3 WRs and/or TEs, Hines number will be gone this offseason.

RuthlessBurgher
03-02-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm upset that he's leaving. He's got one more year as WR4 left and then let him walk away. ”

I think he'd be WR5 if Cotchery comes back. And a 5th WR who doesn't play Special Teams, at 925K/year Veteran Minimum? No team will do that.

I'm said they had to let him go but I'm frustrated he didn't just walk way. The writing was on the wall.

That being said, 86 is one of my all time favorites. I hope they have the good sense to not give out that number for at least 20 to 30 years.

Numerous wideouts have been wearing Stallworth's 82 and Swann's 88 for years (there are only so many numbers that you can give to WR's and TE's, so a number in the 80's will need to be recycled since teams carry so many wideouts and tight ends).

Also consider that Rod Woodson left after the 1996 season. By 1998, rookie Deshea Townsend already was wearing Rod's 26.

Oh i know, but at least give him a few years, ya know? 20 or 30 is obviously not going to happen.

80, 81, and 86 are the only numbers available right now.

So if they draft or sign 3 WRs and/or TEs, Hines number will be gone this offseason.

Some wideouts can have numbers in the teens (like Mike Wallace), and some TE's can have numbers in the 40's (like Chris Cooley), but, yeah, WR and TE #'s tend to be in short supply (especially in Latrobe with all the rookies before any cuts are made).

hawaiiansteel
03-03-2012, 02:16 AM
In an Ideal World, Hines Ward Would Have Had a Send-off Similar to Jerome Bettis, but it Just Wasn't Meant to Be

by Anthony Defeo on Mar 2, 2012

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3236705/55086_Steelers_Broncos_Football.jpg

Every Steelers fan remembers Jerome Bettis' final years with the team. He was no longer the featured back, as guys like Duce Staley and Willie Parker were the starters in 2004 and 2005 respectively, but Bettis was still able to contribute significantly to the offense mainly as a short-yardage and goal line specialist. And in Bettis' final year with the Steelers, he became a source of inspiration for his teammates, who desperately wanted to get him back to his hometown of Detroit for Super Bowl XL.

Not only did the Steelers ride the Bus back to Detroit, they won Super Bowl XL and Bettis was able to announce his retirement with Lombardi trophy in hand on the game's biggest stage in front of the whole world.

Other than maybe scoring the winning touchdown in the final seconds, Jerome couldn't have scripted a better ending to his incredible career.

Every player should get to go out that way. Unfortunately, that's just not the reality in the majority of cases.

Just yesterday, my boss and I were discussing Hines Ward's release by the Steelers, and how it was sad that he didn't get the kind of send-off befitting a player of his stature.

The only problem is that businesses don't give employees huge send-offs whenever they lay them off, and in a sense, that's what happens to a football player whenever he's released.

If Ward would have decided to hang up his cleats and call it a career, the Steelers would most certainly have had the huge send-off for Hines, complete with the press conference, tears and many wonderful tributes for one of the greatest Steelers ever. But if Ward still thinks he can play, the Steelers had no choice but to release him if they feel he no longer fits into their plans.

And, the reality is that Hines Ward wasn't going to have a huge role with the team next season. Assuming Wallace is re-signed, Hines would have been, at best, the number 4 receiver on the team. And if Jerricho Cotchery is brought back, that would make Ward the 5th guy on the depth chart.

The fourth and fifth receivers are expected to play special teams. Obviously, Hines wasn't going to do that, nor should he.

Some say that Hines could still be useful as a mentor to the Young Money trio of Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders, but he already did a wonderful job bringing those guys along because they're arguably the best young receiving corps in the NFL. Besides, Wallace will be entering his fourth season, and Brown and Sanders are entering their third; those guys are ready to be leaders in their own right. If they're half the team leaders that Ward was in his time in Pittsburgh, the organization will have few worries in that regard.

It's different for Hines than it was for Bettis. Bettis was able to carve out a niche for himself in the latter stages of his career because his unique size for his position worked to his advantage when it came to short-yardage situations. Hines was never a speed guy, and once his shiftiness and ability to get open started to diminish last season, the handwriting was on the wall.

I felt for Hines as his role decreased late last season. It became pretty obvious that the other receivers had passed him by significantly. There was no way for him to carve out a niche and play any kind of meaningful role, not on the Steelers, anyway.

Should Hines retire as a Steeler? That's his call. If Ward still wants to try and play, I can't blame him. He only has himself to answer to, and once he retires, that's it. It's better for him to find out if he still has something left in the tank than to look back years from now and wonder, "what if?"

As a huge fan of Ward's, I think it would have been tougher to see him fade into the background on the Steelers bench in his final years than it will be to possibly see him in another uniform.

Besides, as I wrote a couple of weeks back, no matter where Hines Ward finishes his career, he'll always be a Steeler to me.

As far as the huge send-off and tributes? Well, the tributes started pouring in by the thousands once Steelers fans found out about Ward's impending release Wednesday night.

I know the Steelers will officially honor Hines someday in the future--they know how to treat their legends--but for right now, it is a business, and the Steelers have to do what they have to do, and Hines Ward has to do what he has to do.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/20 ... similar-to (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/3/2/2840555/in-an-ideal-world-hines-ward-would-have-had-a-send-off-similar-to)

JDSteeler
03-03-2012, 02:58 AM
Check out my post from another Steelers MB..."#1Steelers.com" - "Hines Cut".

Wow!!!

All you mf's happy he's gone...huh??

Ward holds most, if not all, Steeler receiving records, and
all you can say is..."See Ya", and "Later"??

He's probably the best, all-around, and most physical WR that has ever played. Who said he isn't a HoF'r is a f-ing MORON!!

Ward is First-Ballot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Oh wait...he's abit arrogant, and stirs the ****...like he's the only one who ever did?? Who gives a f**k??

Ward never destroyed a lockerroom, or franchise!!!

They benched him last season without saying a word to him about it. If I was Ward, I would have left voluntarily, and told
them to F-Off!!

Now to embarrass him like this...That some f-ing BS!!!

Rooney could have signed WARD to a Vet-Min contract, (Bettis)and then make him EARN his spot on the team! WTF do the Steelers do if Wallace leaves, or another WR gets hurt?? Then we be f-d!!

Yeh, I know he aint what he used to be, but AriANUS had him on the bench while Wallace hit the wall in the 2nd half of the season.

So all you go ahead a cheer that he's gone, and I hope you regurgitate that f-ing beer toast!!

JD

Slapstick
03-03-2012, 10:00 AM
I sense that you are experiencing some bitterness over Ward's release...

DukieBoy
03-03-2012, 05:49 PM
http://pit.scout.com/2/1163525.html

Well-written, Wex.

fordfixer
03-05-2012, 01:37 AM
http://pit.scout.com/2/1163525.html

Well-written, Wex.
:Agree x2

Chadman
03-05-2012, 01:56 AM
Wow...never thought of Charles Johnson as the "Grandfather of Steeler WR toughness" before. That's kinda cool.

Hell, everything about Hines is kinda cool.

His legacy, hopefully, will live on in the new generation of Steeler WR's.

Oh, and after reading that- wouldn't mind getting Plex back for 1 last hurrah too.

Slapstick
03-05-2012, 10:07 AM
In Chan Gailey's system, Johnson took on a lot of blockers as a flanker and did extremely well...if Hines hadn't been so dominant for so long, Johnson might have been remembered by more people as a great blocking WR...