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Jooser
01-28-2012, 12:29 PM
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Roethlisberger could be making a power play for Fichtner

Posted by Mike Florio on January 28, 2012, 10:07 AM EST

AP
So why is Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger planning to park his rear end on the other side of Art Rooney’s desk and ask hard questions about the future of the offense?

It could be that Roethlisberger wants to ensure that quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner replaces Bruce Arians as the next offensive coordinator of the Steelers.

“When I get back, I’m going to go up to Mr. Rooney’s office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that’s a viable question for him,” Roethlisberger said recently. “He’s our owner and our boss, so I really would like to know kind of what he wants and where he sees our offense going because I’d like to tell him where I see us going.”

Roethlisberger surely sees the offense going toward Fichtner, who has joined Ben in Hawaii for the Pro Bowl and who has worked with the quarterback since 2007, when coach Mike Tomlin hired him. Fichtner previously ran a spread offense at Memphis, and Peter King explained last night on NBC SportsTalk that Fichtner was instrumental in helping Roethsliberger reintegrate into the roster after a four-game suspension to start the 2010 season.

And so the deeper question is whether Rooney wants to change the offense, or whether he simply wanted to change the coordinator. If it was a matter of dumping Bruce Arians and promoting Fichtner, the move probably would have happened by now.

Some may wonder why Rooney would possibly want to retreat to a more traditional Steelers attack — play great defense, run the ball extensively, and pass selectively not extensively. That would seem to be an unusual decision, given the presence of three very good young receivers: Mike Wallace, 2011 team MVP Antonio Brown, and Emmanuel Sanders.

But here’s the thing. Receivers who catch a lot of passes eventually command a lot of money. So if the Steelers continue to stretch the field, it could force them to stretch their wallet and/or salary cap in order to keep the pieces in place. Competent running backs, generally speaking, are much cheaper, more interchangeable, and far easier to find.

Rooney offered no concrete clues during a recent interview with Steelers Digest editor Bob Labriola when commenting on the fact that the two Super Bowl teams have quarterbacks who passed for more than 10,000 yards combined this season and defenses that landed near the bottom of the league.

“There’s no question the league is changing and the league’s always evolving,” Rooney said. “And there’s no doubt that I think we’ve seen quarterback play in general this year at maybe the highest level we’ve ever seen it, from a number of players. And so number one I think we’re fortunate to have a lot of very good quarterbacks in the league right now. Number two, the rules have changed to allow more prolific passers. And so I think that’s what we’re looking for for our quarterback, to be up there with the elite quarterbacks and to have that kind of production. And so I think you have to recognize all those facts.

“The other side of the coin is I think if you look at these playoffs so far, we’re not seeing teams scoring 30 and 40 points a game. And so I think you have to remember what playoff football is all about. Defense still is a big part of the game. And the games that we’ve seen for far in the playoffs, the defenses have made big plays. And as I say, the scoring has been fairly consistent with past playoffs. And so I think the game is evolving, but maybe not to the degree that some people would like to play it.”

Apart from the fact that the Giants scored 37 at Lambeau Field and the Pats scored 45 against the Broncos, who scored one point less than 30 against the Steelers, and the 49ers and Saints combined for 68 points and the Saints and Lions cominbed for 73 points, Rooney seems to be struggling to reconcile the recent explosion in offense with the time-honored notion that defense wins championships.

Of course, there’s also a chance that Rooney wants to continue to stretch the field, but that he doesn’t believe Fichtner is the right guy to orchestrate the attack. Either way, these decisions about the future of the Steelers offense seem to be coming not from the top of the coaching staff, but from the top of the organization. And it’ll be interesting to see whether Roethlisberger likes what he hears when he plops his caboose in Art Rooney’s office.

Have the Steelers even interviewed any candidates yet? Perhaps Tomlin's father passing away is slowing the process down a bit...not that I mind that, just thinking out loud. Of course anyone would expect Ben to promote a pass-oriented offensive coordinator.

pittpete
01-28-2012, 12:42 PM
Florio is a self promoting douche

Jooser
01-28-2012, 12:47 PM
I can't argue with that Pete.

Shoe
01-28-2012, 02:58 PM
I'm fine with Ben making a "power play" for the guy he wants. It puts accountability on him and the offense then, to produce. It also (presumably) is the type of system Ben thinks he's best in, which is what we want.

I also prefer the no-name candidate than the big-name.

RuthlessBurgher
01-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Hasn't the staff been in Mobile all week for Senior Bowl practices? That tends to also be a de facto job fair for unemployed football coaches to try to get interviews for open positions, since they know all of the G.M.'s and H.C.'s will all be in one place at one time.

hawaiiansteel
01-28-2012, 03:15 PM
Hasn't the staff been in Mobile all week for Senior Bowl practices? That tends to also be a de facto job fair for unemployed football coaches to try to get interviews for open positions, since they know all of the G.M.'s and H.C.'s will all be in one place at one time.

http://files.pittsburghlive.com/img/logo_triblive.gif

MarkKaboly_Trib via twitter:

I did find it strange that Tomlin was back from senior bowl on Thursday. Interviews lined up for OC job? It appears so.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1kmJYnaha (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/#ixzz1kmJYnaha)

Flasteel
01-28-2012, 04:36 PM
I would think that Tomlin has a very short list of guys he would like to bring in and I hope he does his due diligence. Fichtner, however, would seem to have a big edge.

Tomlin obviously saw something in him when they coached together and made him part of his inaugural staff.

He's coached the receivers and the quarterback in this system for 5 years and has an unparalleled knowledge of our players' skills.

No change in terminology, which means no learning curves or developmental delays with our young receivers.

He has a great relationship with Roethlisberger already. Some may view that as a problem...I don't.

Having different philosophies and a better feel for play-calling than Arians has the potential to completely tansform this offense without really changing anything. It wouldn't mean that we're stuck with the same ol', same ol', by any stretch.

papillon
01-28-2012, 05:19 PM
When I get back, I’m going to go up to Mr. Rooney’s office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that’s a viable question for him,” Roethlisberger said recently.

This falls under the category of be careful what you ask for, because you might get it. I don't think Ben really wants Rooney to answer that question, it won't be pretty.

Pappy

Slapstick
01-28-2012, 06:36 PM
Why wouldn't it be pretty?

Rooney and Roethlisberger both want the same thing...

DukieBoy
01-28-2012, 10:51 PM
I can't argue with that Pete.

You could argue it, Joos, but it would be an invalid argument and there goes your credibility.

hawaiiansteel
01-29-2012, 02:15 AM
Ben Roethlisberger Deserves to Know Where the Steelers Offense is Headed

by Anthony Defeo on Jan 28, 2012

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2 days ago: Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger throws a pass as the AFC squad practices Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012, at Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in Honolulu for Sunday's NFL football Pro Bowl. (AP Photo/Eugene Tanner)

With the departure of Bruce Arians as Steelers offensive coordinator last week, it was only a matter of time before Ben Roethlisberger shared his feelings on the matter. Not surprisingly, Big Ben wasn't exactly happy about Arians' exit, and he has stated that he wants to have a heart-to-heart with team President Art Rooney II to get a feel for what the boss wants, and where the owner sees the offense heading in the future.

What Big Ben said is not sitting well with many in Steeler Nation. I can't say that I'm surprised. Even before Roethlisberger weighed in with his thoughts, many Steelers fans were hoping he would keep his mouth shut about Arians' dismissal and just accept that his offensive coordinator was gone.

There are many who want Roethlisberger to just keep quiet, period, as if the title of franchise quarterback wields no power whatsoever. Well, nothing can be further from the truth, especially when it's a quarterback who has accomplished as much as No. 7 has in his first eight seasons.

Roethlisberger is 80-33 in his career as a starter and 10-4 in postseason games--including a 2-1 record in three trips to the Super Bowl. I'd say he's earned the right to voice his opinions and deserves to know what direction his bosses will want him to steer the ship in the immediate future.

You might say that other players like Troy Polamalu and James Farrior have earned the right to have an equal say, and to a point they have, but make no mistake, when you're an elite quarterback in the NFL, you have the most clout. In addition to those stats I just rattled off, there are 100 million other reasons why Ben Roethlisberger is more than just "one of the guys."

If I were the Rooney family, the front office, and Coach Tomlin, I'd want my starting quarterback to have the guts to voice his opinion.You want him to be the leader. Should he have gone through the proper chain of command and knocked on Tomlin's door first? Who's to say he didn't? Regardless of whether or not he kept his mouth shut, Roethlisberger was going to have that sit-down with Rooney, and sooner or later, it was going to come out. And I can almost guarantee you the reaction would have been the same: "Who does he think he is?"

I'll tell you who he is. He's a quarterback who is in the same class as players named Brady, Manning and Rodgers. And regardless of where he is in the pecking-order, he's part of an exclusive club, and every single one of those guys has power within their organization, and their opinion matters to their bosses.

Roethlisberger should be no different.

Some people think that Big Ben should be kept in the dark about the direction of the offense, that he should have no input at all. I don't agree with that sentiment. The franchise quarterback should absolutely be part of the brain-trust in finding the next coordinator and shaping the type of offense the Steelers are going to run.

I can't believe anyone would want it any other way.

You don't think Tom Brady has an influence on the Patriots offense? What about Drew Brees or Eli Manning? Of course they do.

There are also some that feel that Roethlisberger would benefit from having an offensive coordinator that he couldn't be close with. In-fact, people have said that a coach who is more a of disciplinarian is what Roethlsiberger needs. Maybe if he was 22 or 23 and right out of college, but Big Ben will be 30 years old the next time he throws a football in a meaningful game, and he's earned the right to have a coach that he can be comfortable with. It doesn't have to be someone that he takes to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl, but he doesn't need someone getting in his face at every turn. In my opinion, that would be counter-productive.

D!ck Lebeau is one of the best defensive coordinators who ever coached in the NFL--he owns a yellow jacket that proves that much--but he's also one of the most beloved by his players. Coach Dad has proven that a coordinator can treat his charges with respect and still get them to play up to their highest potential.

Finally, a successful quarterback is like a star of a television show. Is he technically the boss? No, but there would be no show without the big star, and if you bring in a new director, the star and the director need to be able to work together in-order to get the best out of the character.

Regardless of what you think of him, Ben Roethlisberger was the single-most important ingredient in the team's recent Super Bowl success. Moving forward, he'll continue to be the most important ingredient in the organization's quest for future championships.

I think his opinion should count for something.

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Jooser
01-29-2012, 11:24 AM
I can't argue with that Pete.

You could argue it, Joos, but it would be an invalid argument and there goes your credibility.


There are those unfortunates present on this board that will argue for argument's sake, I am not one of those, Dukie. My credibility is already suspect as it is. :D

DukieBoy
01-29-2012, 05:38 PM
I can't argue with that Pete.

You could argue it, Joos, but it would be an invalid argument and there goes your credibility.


There are those unfortunates present on this board that will argue for argument's sake, I am not one of those, Dukie. My credibility is already suspect as it is. :D

Hey Joos, you've got incredible credibility ... don't you ???????

hawaiiansteel
01-29-2012, 06:48 PM
Jim Caldwell meets with Steelers about coordinator job

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 29, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/j-caldwellunhappy.jpg?w=122

The Steelers and Colts may wind up unintentionally trading offensive coaches.

Deposed Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians has landed with the Colts. And dismissed Colts head coach Jim Caldwell may wind up in Pittsburgh.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports that the Steelers interviewed Caldwell for their vacant coordinator position over the weekend. They are considering other candidates as well.

Going with Caldwell would clearly mark a different direction for the Steelers offense. Florio wrote earlier this week about how Ben Roethlisberger could make a power play in an effort to get quarterbacks coach Randy Fichtner elevated to the offensive coordinator job.

The Steelers already showed Roethlisberger his input matters only so much when they got rid of Arians. Choosing Caldwell over an in-house candidate like Fichtner would really hammer the point home.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... nator-job/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/29/jim-caldwell-meets-with-steelers-about-coordinator-job/)

Mister Pittsburgh
01-29-2012, 07:02 PM
Not that it matters, but I will be disgusted if Tomlin hires Caldwell.

NorthCoast
01-29-2012, 07:03 PM
When I get back, I’m going to go up to Mr. Rooney’s office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that’s a viable question for him,” Roethlisberger said recently.

This falls under the category of be careful what you ask for, because you might get it. I don't think Ben really wants Rooney to answer that question, it won't be pretty.

Pappy

That's the first thing I thought Pappy. First, why does Ben think he can go directly to the owner of the team? Shouldn't he be asking the HC what HE wants for the offense? This smacks of some disrespect for Tomlin as a head coach.
The HC puts together the gameplan each week. The HC knows the player's strengths and weaknesses. The HC is where Ben should be directing his questions.

Sugar
01-29-2012, 07:15 PM
When I get back, I’m going to go up to Mr. Rooney’s office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that’s a viable question for him,” Roethlisberger said recently.

This falls under the category of be careful what you ask for, because you might get it. I don't think Ben really wants Rooney to answer that question, it won't be pretty.

Pappy

That's the first thing I thought Pappy. First, why does Ben think he can go directly to the owner of the team? Shouldn't he be asking the HC what HE wants for the offense? This smacks of some disrespect for Tomlin as a head coach.
The HC puts together the gameplan each week. The HC knows the player's strengths and weaknesses. The HC is where Ben should be directing his questions.

If it were Tomlin that let Arians go and made public comments about the state of the Offense, that would make sense.

feltdizz
01-30-2012, 10:08 AM
When I get back, I’m going to go up to Mr. Rooney’s office and ask him what he wants from me, what he wants from this offense, because I think that’s a viable question for him,” Roethlisberger said recently.

This falls under the category of be careful what you ask for, because you might get it. I don't think Ben really wants Rooney to answer that question, it won't be pretty.

Pappy

That's the first thing I thought Pappy. First, why does Ben think he can go directly to the owner of the team? Shouldn't he be asking the HC what HE wants for the offense? This smacks of some disrespect for Tomlin as a head coach.
The HC puts together the gameplan each week. The HC knows the player's strengths and weaknesses. The HC is where Ben should be directing his questions.

If it were Tomlin that let Arians go and made public comments about the state of the Offense, that would make sense.

What makes people think Ben hasn't already talked to Tomlin? Ben wants to talk to the owner... not sure why it's a problem or disrespectful.

JAR
01-30-2012, 10:21 AM
What is everyone's issue with Ben wanting to talk to Rooney? Seriously, it's the guy who signs his paycheck. How is Ben wanting to talk to Rooney disrespectful?

You have to admit, things have been a little out of character for the front office this off season. The strange handling of Arians, retiring, firing... Rooney telling the PG Ben needs to tweak his game...why wouldn't Ben want to talk to Rooney since he is the one that is upset with the offense?

Ben is the leader of the offense and SHOULD go see what the heck is going on. He's being a leader like many of you said he's not. He's stepping up to the plate and he's still being bashed.