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Dee Dub
01-23-2012, 07:27 PM
I watched the first practice today and from what I saw and heard come from Mike Mayock and Charles Davis, here are those who stood out and those who struggled. Unfortunately the NFL Network spent like 20 minutes talking about two QB's who probably will never play QB in the NFL (Kellen Moore and Russell Wilson.


Stood out---

Kendall Reyes DT UConn

Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin---actually handled Ta'Amu of Washington pretty well in one on ones.

Vinny Curry DE/OLB Marshall--showed explosive pass rush ability and appeared stronger than most thought

Marvin Jones WR Cal looked to be best at route running.

DeVier Posey---looks fluid and caught everything that was thrown at him.



Struggled---

Johnnie Troutman OG Penn State

Keleche Osemele OT/OG ----------struggled in pass blocking. Mayock commented that he didnt have the feet to play tackle in the NFL.

Mike Adams OT Ohio State---struggled early on in pass blocking but showed better as the day went on. Solid in run blocking. Vinny Curry ate him up a few times.

Marvin McNutt----had some drops (very uncharacteristic of him).

Alfonzo Dennard---got beat deep by Marvin Jones

Dee Dub
01-23-2012, 07:28 PM
Oh and feel free to add to this....

hawaiiansteel
01-23-2012, 09:14 PM
I find it interesting how two people can watch the same prospects and have different takes on whether they did well or not...


Senior Bowl practice report: Monday

Posted: Monday January 23, 2012

SI.com draft expert Tony Pauline is live in Mobile, Ala., where some of the draft's brightest talent are taking part in Senior Bowl week, the annual prospect showcase. He'll be providing live analysis from practice each day throughout the week.

4:21 p.m. CT -- Monday practice is complete for the North. Overall Marvin Jones (WR/Cal) made a great impression and delivered much more than scouts expected. Have to also be excited about Mike Adams (T/Ohio State), who justified his rising draft stock with a strong practice.

- The first practice of Tuesday starts 9:30 a.m. CT and we'll be bringing you all the goings on from the Senior Bowl!

4:17 p.m. CT -- Brad Nortman (P/Wisconsin) was kicking moon shots all afternoon. His punts were consistently flying 55-to-60 yards with great hang time.

4:05 p.m. CT -- Mitchell Schwartz (T/Cal) was forced to play center after the North's second center, Garth Gerhart (ASU) left the field with an injury. Schwartz has held his own in the early going, blocking with good fundamentals and, more importantly, displaying the ability to handle the center/quarterback snap exchange.

- Alameda Ta'amu (DT/Washington) has displayed a lot of power on the inside, consistently pushing offensive linemen off the ball and into the backfield.

- Mike Adams (T/Ohio State) looks like he's got his game on track and has been dominant in the middle part of practice.

- Brian Linthicum (TE/Michigan State) has really impressed all day. He looked very athletic during opening drills and has made several impressive catches in full scrimmage.

4:01 p.m. CT -- Senio Kelemete (G/Washington) has been incredibly athletic on the field and has stopped several top-rated pass rushers -- including Jack Crawford of Penn State -- dead in their tracks. In the full scrimmage Kelemete annihilated Vinny Curry on one play.

- Mike Martin (DT/Michigan) and Mike Brewster (C/Ohio State) have had a terrific battle all afternoon. Martin fired off several snaps and took the advantage with his first step, but Brewster adjusted and out-positioned Martin toward the end of the drill. It's been fun to watch.

- Shea McClellin (DE-LB/Boise State) spent much of his college career at defensive end but after tipping the scales at 248-pounds this morning, the coaching staff switched him to linebacker and thus far he's made the adjustment well. McClellin moves well in space, showing the ability to quickly change direction. He has a ways to go but you can tell there's something there.

3:49 p.m. CT -- Alfonzo Dennard (CB/Nebraska) has struggled. He does not show a quick backpedal and struggled transitioning to run downfield with receivers. The usually reliable Dennard has not gotten his feet underneath him yet.

- Isaiah Pead (RB/Cincinnati) has been the most elusive and creative ball carrier of the day. On one play he made two defenders miss with his ability to cut back against the grain.

- Mike Adams (T/Ohio State) is really starting to pull it together. He's used his wide frame to out-position defenders and moves his feet well for a big man.

- Michael Egnew (TE/Missouri) has looked incredibly fluid and smooth all day. He's very natural catching the ball and shows nice tight end speed.

3:46 p.m. CT -- Vinny Curry (DE/Marshall) has looked terrific in the early going. He's been matched up against Ohio State tackle Mike Adams, who has been rising up draft boards, yet he's bettered the Big Ten lineman. Curry has looked quick, athletic and fluid.

Adams reverted to holding Curry in an attempt slow him down.

- To his credit Adams did rebound and has looked very good run blocking.

- Mike Quick (WR/Appalachian State) has struggled and looked outclassed. His routes are awfully slow and not sharp. He's also dropped several catchable throws.

- Marvin Jones (WR/Cal) has stood out in one-on-one drills. He probably runs the best routes of anyone on the North team, consistently separates from defensive backs and has made several outstanding receptions.

- Kirk Cousins (QB/Michigan State) has shown the best arm of any signal caller on the North and it's of legitimate NFL strength. He's powered the ball into the tight spots and has challenged the hands of his receivers.

3:37 p.m. CT -- It's overcast and slightly raining as the first practice of the day has gotten underway at the Senior Bowl.

- Devier Posey (WR/Ohio State) looks terrific in the early going. He's run great routes and caught everything thrown in his direction. Posey looks very fluid and natural and does not look like a player that missed most of the 2011 season.

- TJ Graham (WR/North Carolina State) a late addition to the game, has also looked good. He's made several difficult receptions and has run crisp, quick routes.

- Marvin McNutt (WR/Iowa) has struggled in the early going. He looks very stiff and has dropped a number of catchable throws.

- Though its still early, Kellen Moore (QB/Boise State) does not look good. He shows no ability to put speed on his passes and his throws have consistently been behind receivers.

10:30 a.m. CT -- The 63rd Senior Bowl kicked off this morning, as more than 100 NFL hopefuls were weighed and measured in front of the league's 32 franchises, all of which had an assortment of general managers, coaches and scouts on hand. On stage at the Mobile Convention Center ballroom were several impressive looking athletes who'll take to the field this afternoon for the initial practice of the week.

Several notable prospects were no-shows this week, mostly due to injury. Fast-rising receiver Kendall Wright of Baylor has been recovering from an ankle injury which he played with late in the year, and Wisconsin receiver Nick Toon is struggling with a foot injury. Small-school offensive lineman Amini Silatolu of Midwestern State, graded by a number of scouts as a second-day draft pick, is not in Mobile due to a hamstring injury. Trumaine Johnson, a highly rated cornerback from Montana, turned down an invitation to the Senior Bowl as he told officials he "was not ready" to participate. That has sent up a number of red flags, as the small-school prospect was graded as a potential second-round pick.

Two players from Alabama's national title winning team are mending injuries and won't be on hand, including safety Mark Barron and defensive tackle Josh Chapman.
Chapman played the last part of the season with a knee ligament injury, which he further worsened during the title contest against LSU. He's now looking at a rehabilitation process that will take at least four months.

Scouts were pleased to see the bulk of the Tide's senior prospects opting to participate in the Senior Bowl less than two weeks after the title game. Courtney Upshaw, Marquis Maze, William Vlachos and DeQuan Menzi are all on hand and ready to take the field for Monday's practice.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z1kKWsx6o7 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tony_pauline/01/23/senior.bowl.practice.monday/index.html#ixzz1kKWsx6o7)

Dee Dub
01-23-2012, 09:25 PM
I find it interesting how two people can watch the same prospects and have different takes on whether they did well or not...

I dont think it is all that much different than what I said about Adams.

He did get beat several times by Curry but as I said as the day went on he showed better. And as I also said, I was impressed with his run blocking. I think we can all agree that when you are playing tackle and you struggle versus a speed rusher like Curry who also has power that is a a little bit of a red flag.

Dee Dub
01-23-2012, 09:28 PM
And I agree with this as well....

- Alameda Ta'amu (DT/Washington) has displayed a lot of power on the inside, consistently pushing offensive linemen off the ball and into the backfield.

...however versus Zeitler this wasnt the case.

Unfortunately I didnt have the luxury of being there and being able to see everything. I could only see what NFL would show.

hawaiiansteel
01-23-2012, 09:32 PM
hey DeeDub,

I wasn't calling you out on this at all, I was mainly referring to many other instances where scouts who watched practices such as at the Senior Bowl end up giving completely different assessments of a players' performance.

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 01:25 AM
BTW...Mike Mayock loves OT Mike Adams. Here are some more notes from the practice today.


No question that Georgia offensive lineman Cordy Glenn is going to be a first round choice this coming April because he is a naturally huge and gifted football player with incredibly nimble feet for a 6-5.5, 346 pound human being. Glenn also has a very even temperament to deal with the ups and downs of life as a LT and may not have to move inside to OG at the next level as he looks like he has the athleticism to handle the OT slot just fine thank you. Indeed, Glenn is going to hand out some punishment to defenders this week with his blocking efforts and he got off to a solid start today.

I still think more highly of Arizona WR Juron Criner than many people and he didn't do anything today to disappoint. At 6-2, 220, Criner is a load for smaller CBs and there were several occasions today when he was not hesitant to give his defender a little shove to gain some separation. Unless he needs a sun dial to time him when he runs the 40 at next month’s combine, I think this man has a lot of NFL potential. He showed good hands several times today and seems to locate the ball in the air very well.

Monday morning weigh-in.... The Tale of the Tape


This morning was the National Combine weigh-in for players, otherwise famously known as the 'Meat Market.' Nobody blew the house away by being Charles Atlas (on steroids or not), however, there weren't any whale sightings either. Here are some numbers I thought were rather interesting.

Not counting the kicking specialists 98 position players were put through the height/weight tape process in Mobile today. Of those:

29 players were under 6-0 tall.
24 players weighed 300 pounds. or more.
All 18 offensive linemen weighed in at 300 pounds or more.
Only 6 of the 16 defensive linemen weighed 300 pounds or more.

HEAVIEST PLAYERS:
OG CORDY GLENN, Georgia 346
DT ALAMEDA TA'AMU, Washington 341
OG KELECHI OSEMELE, Iowa State 333

TALLEST PLAYERS:
OT MIKE ADAMS, Ohio State 6-7
DE QUINTON COPLES, North Carolina 6-5 3/4
OT TONY BERGSTROM, Utah 6-5 1/2

LIGHTEST PLAYERS:
WR PATRICK EDWARDS, Houston 168
WR JOE ADAMS, Arkansas 174
CB BILL BENTLEY, ULL 176
RB CHRIS RAINEY, Florida 178

SHORTEST PLAYERS:
WR MARQUIS MAZE, Alabama 5-7 3/4
RB CHRIS RAINEY, Florida 5-8 3/8
WR PATRICK EDWARDS, Houston 5-8 7/8

http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm

I believe if Juron Criner is going to be a steal in this draft. If the Steelers cant get Marvin McNutt in the 4th I would love for them to get Criner.

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 01:37 AM
Here are the official heights, weights, and arm lengths for the players at the Senior Bowl. A couple interesting things. Alameda Ta'Amu isnt as tall as he was listed at Washington. He came in at 6 ft 2.4. And Courtney Upshaw came in at 6 ft 1.4 and weighed 273. :shock: Not so sure he's gonna be able to play OLB in a 3-4? He did it Alabama but I dont know.

http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlhtswts.html

NJ-STEELER
01-24-2012, 01:38 AM
i'm concocting a mock draft withegnew in it

read that he was slated to be a 1st rounder after last year (playing with gabbert)

hopefully we can land him in the 3rd

hawaiiansteel
01-24-2012, 01:50 AM
2012 Senior Bowl: Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell


The North team took to the field of Ladd Peebles Stadium for their first practice of Senior Bowl on Monday afternoon. The Minnesota Vikings coaching staff was in charge of the North team and they had the players practicing in shells, shorts, shoulder pads and helmets. Typically, Tuesday and Wednesday are the full-padded sessions. To start out practice, they worked on special teams and in their individual position groups.

The wide receivers worked specifically on body control along the sideline. Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick is a big, athletic prospect. He needs to be developed some and work on his footwork for the NFL, but that isn't surprising considering the jump in competition. Ohio State wide receiver Devier Posey and Iowa wideout Marvin McNutt are both polished. McNutt had a fancy one-handed catch.

Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson was spinning the ball and showing a quality arm on passes. Meanwhile, Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore does not have the same arm strength, and his balls were floating a fair amount. Michigan State tight end Brian Linthicum had a bad dropped pass working with the quarterbacks. Wilson and Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins both had fumbled snaps.

After the individual period, the squad was broken into a scrimmage session of one-on-ones between the wide receivers and the defensive backs, while a nine-on-nine run scrimmage was waged on the other half of the field. Generally, the wideouts got the best of the one-on-ones. Cal wideout Marvin Jones had a quality practice. He had an impressive win against Iowa State cornerback Leonard Johnson. Jones also beat Nebraska cornerback Alfonzo Dennard on a deep post going into the end zone. Dennard almost broke the pass up but Jones showed impressive strength to hang onto the football as Dennard tried to slap it out.

Quick had a nice leaping catch along the sideline on a pass thrown off the mark, while McNutt burned Cal Poly cornerback Asa Jackson on slant route. Posey had position on Jackson on a deep ball in the front corner of the end zone, but Posey dropped the pass. Jackson did well fielding punts, but he struggled with defending the receivers.

Boston College cornerback Donnie Fletcher had a solid practice. He has some size, athleticism and strength. He made some good reads and hits on receivers in the one-on-ones.

One of the most impressive players on Monday for the North team was Arizona State wide receiver Gerell Robinson. He beat Johnson in the one-on-ones, and got the better of Fletcher with a beautiful one-handed catch reaching back behind his body. In the 11-on-11 full team scrimmage, Robinson was moving the chains for the offense. He was very effective running the short to intermediate slant. He beat Oklahoma cornerback Jamell Fleming on a comeback route. After making the catch, Robinson dodged Fleming's reach to break free downfield for a good gain. It wasn't all good for Robinson, as he dropped one slant pass. Overall he was a real challenge for defensive backs and Robinson made his presence felt.

The defensive and offensive linemen battled in one-on-ones, and the defensive linemen had the better overall day. Here is a scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:
Connecticut defensive tackle Kendall Reyes beat Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler with a speed rush followed by a swim move.

Zeitler came back to end the session by winning two reps against Washington nose tackle Alameda Ta'amu. He stonewalled two bull rushes as the thick Zeitler is very good at anchoring. The way to beat Zeitler is with speed, as bull rushes tend to go nowhere.

Michigan defensive tackle Mike Martin and Ohio State center Mike Brewster split four reps with each getting two victories. Brewster rode Martin around the pocket on the first try, while Martin bull rushed Brewster into the quarterback marker on the rematch. The next rep saw Brewster hold off Martin long enough for a pass to be thrown. The final rep had Martin blasting Brewster back and rocking the center onto his heels. That let Martin jet by him to get to the marker.

Boise State defensive tackle Billy Winn battled Penn State guard Johnnie Troutman. Winn lost the first rep as Troutman held him off long enough. They had a draw on another rep where Winn got some charge before being stopped. Winn beat Utah guard Tony Bergstrom with a speed rush.

Bergstrom lost two reps to Virginia defensive end Cam Johnson. He burned him with speed rushes to the inside. Johnson had a good practice overall. He also beat Iowa State offensive tackle/guard Kelechi Osemele with some speed rushes to the inside. Osemele was at right tackle. Johnson would start to the outside before darting by Osemele to the interior.

Cincinnati defensive tackle/end Derek Wolfe had two draws going against Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams. Each rep saw Wolfe push the pocket before being stopped short of getting to the marker. Wolfe split two reps with Zeitler. Wolfe won with a speed rush and lost when he tried to bull rush Zeitler.

Adams split two battles with Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry. The first time saw Adams get a hold of Curry, and he was unable to shed the block. The rematch had Curry getting low around the edge and turning the corner to get by Adams.

Washington offensive tackle Senio Kelemete won two reps against Penn State defensive end Jack Crawford. The first rep saw Kelemete stop a bull rush dead on. The second attempt was a speed rush that Kelemete mirrored well.

There were some impressive wins in the line play during the team scrimmage. Vinny Curry and Cam Johnson had good rushes in the 11-on-11 battles. Curry had Russell Wilson sacked on one play after he beat Kelemete on a speed rush around the corner. Johnson beat Osemele on a speed rush with Osemele at right tackle. In judging by the first day, Osemele is misfit at tackle and should move inside to guard. Michigan defensive tackle Mike Martin got blown up by a bump block from Troutman and Zeitler. The big offensive linemen put Martin into the turf hard. That is a hard block to beat in the NFL and can give a lot of defensive tackles fits, but beating that block can separate the men from the boys.

To conclude practice, the teams worked on punts. Wisconsin punter Brad Nortman had a good day and was getting good hang time. The Vikings coaches praised Nortman. Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David did well as a personal protector for the punter, while Michigan State safety Trenton Robinson was a gritty and effective gunner. Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead, North Carolina State wide receiver T.J. Graham and Cal Poly cornerback Asa Jackson returned the punts. None of them muffed a kick.

There were some other brief notables from the Monday practice: Washington running back Chris Polk and Boise State running back Doug Martin looked good, but it can be tough to read when tackles aren't being made. Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins look like better prospects than Kellen Moore. Moore's arm is seriously lacking. Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler spent some time after practice working on snapping the ball with the Vikings coaching staff. Many NFL guards are required to learn some center in case of injury. A late add to the Senior Bowl is Arkansas State linebacker Demario Davis. He had a solid debut with some good plays in pass coverage in the team scrimmage.

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbow ... ctice2.php (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice2.php)

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 11:57 AM
Great stuff hawaiiansteel!! I hope that you will continue to post these updates/notes of these practices. Much appreciated.

Shawn
01-24-2012, 01:34 PM
Trust me when I say this...Mike Adams will be a turnstyle in the pros. I know he is huge and athletic. But, he just doesn't have it. I don't know why but he just gets abused. I hope the Steelers stay far, far away. He scares me because we know the Steelers like Buckeyes.

Posey is interesting. He was an above average college player. I don't think he was special. With that said, he only had Pryor throwing to him. He is big, fast, and has solid hands. I think Posey will end up being a high end #2, low end #1. He is worth a second round look.

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Trust me when I say this...Mike Adams will be a turnstyle in the pros. I know he is huge and athletic. But, he just doesn't have it. I don't know why but he just gets abused. I hope the Steelers stay far, far away. He scares me because we know the Steelers like Buckeyes.....

Shawn I tend to agree with you on Adams. I really think that these scouts and experts are really enamored with his height and especially his wing span. Long arms to keep the pass rusher at a distance, however, when you watch him he struggles with his feet and getting set up which has caused him problems versus the speed rusher. I have no vendetta versus Adams. He has shown some ability/flashes of being good but then there's that once every other time of getting beat around the corner that scares me. I would be ok with a later round pick (maybe a second, preferably a 3rd), on him but some are talking first round grade. :shock:

SteelBucks
01-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Trust me when I say this...Mike Adams will be a turnstyle in the pros. I know he is huge and athletic. But, he just doesn't have it. I don't know why but he just gets abused. I hope the Steelers stay far, far away. He scares me because we know the Steelers like Buckeyes.



After watching Adams for four years, it seems to be a question of "want" with him....He plays well when he wants to. There's no question he's a great run blocker but pass protection always leaves me confused. Some games/plays he has it, other times he looks lazy and uninterested.

hawaiiansteel
01-24-2012, 06:29 PM
2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday North Practice Report

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The North team took to the field of Ladd Peebles Stadium for their second practice of Senior Bowl on Tuesday morning. The Minnesota Vikings coaching staff was in charge of the North team and they had the players practicing in full pads. Tuesday and Wednesday are the full-padded sessions. To start out practice they worked on special teams and in their individual position groups.

During the practice and beforehand, Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler spent a lot of time working at center. Zeitler played next to the best center in college football in Peter Konz, so he didn't see any game action at the position as a collegiate player the past few years. If Zeitler can show NFL teams that he has the capacity to play some center, that could give his draft stock a boost.

During the individual period the linebackers worked on their footwork. Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David has extremely quick feet, and David stood out above the other linebackers. North Carolina State linebacker Audie Cole is a little stiff. He probably would fit best as an inside linebacker in the 3-4. Boise State outside linebacker Shea McClellin was surprisingly athletic.

After the individual period, the linebackers went to a one-on-one scrimmage against running backs, fullbacks and tight ends in blitz protection. Overall the linebackers have the advantage in this drill, but there were players who stood out on both sides of the ball. Here is a scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:

David started the session by blasting Wisconsin fullback Bradie Ewing. The hit from David was extremely hard and rocked Ewing off balance. That allowed the speedy David to jet by him for the victory. David ran through Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead on a rush. David blasted Washington running back Chris Polk to the ground for another win. The only player who beat David was Massachusetts tight end Emil Igwenagu. He rode David around the outside on a speed rush.

Other than David, the other linebacker to really standout was Cole. He beat Polk with a swim move, dodged Ewing with a jab step, and defeated Ohio State running back Boom Herron with a power swim move. Cole lost a rep to Missouri tight end Michael Egnew when he rode him around the pocket.

Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner shed a block from Boise State's Doug Martin before getting to the marker. Wagner bull rushed through Polk for a victory.

Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson had a resounding win when he ran over Herron on one rush. Johnson also had wins against Ewing and Igwenagu.

Ewing lost a number of reps but he also had a win against Boise State's Shea McClellin when he rode him around the pocket.

McClellin destroyed Herron on a power rush.

Pead stuffed Johnson on one rush. Of the running backs, Pead has the best technique in fitting up on blitzers and getting in good position. Even in his losses he fought well.

Pead and Martin were the two running backs who performed the best in their position group. Polk had an ugly session, while Herron was beat with ease. Both Pead and Martin are helping their draft stock with showing the potential to be trusted third-down running backs.

The wide receivers and cornerbacks went against each other in one-on-ones. Overall the defensive backs fared better than they did on Monday, but wideouts have an advantage in this drill as they know the route and the cornerback has no safety help. Here is a run down of some of the one-on-one action:

Iowa wide receiver Marvin McNutt is a polished route-runner and he had a good session. McNutt had wins against Iowa State cornerback Leonard Johnson, Nebraska cornerback Alfonzo Dennard and Cal Poly cornerback Asa Jackson. McNutt executes the slant route extremely well and that worked to get open against those cornerbacks. On a deep post, McNutt had a step on Boston College cornerback Donnie Fletcher, but McNutt couldn't get a handle on a pass thrown behind him. It was a catch he probably should've made.

A real standout so far has been Cal wide receiver Marvin Jones. He beat Dennard on a deep pass along the sideline for a big catch downfield. Jones burned Johnson on a slant route and got a good deal of space to come open. On Monday and Tuesday, Jones has shown quickness in and out of his breaks to get separation from defensive backs.

Dennard hasn't had a strong week. At times he hasn't done well in turning and running with receivers. Dennard did have a win when he forced an incompletion on a quick out to North Carolina State wide receiver T.J. Graham. This environment isn't the best for Dennard as he performs better in the games when he is playing within a scheme. This week could bump his stock down.

Ohio State wide receiver DeVier Posey didn't impress and had a bad dropped pass.

Fletcher had a good session overall. He almost had a diving interception after Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick slipped on the play. Fletcher had tight coverage on Gerell Robinson on an out route and forced a bobbled pass that went incomplete as Robinson went out of bounds.

The defensive line and offensive lines battled in one-on-ones, and there are definitely some prospects who are really helping themselves. The defensive line has a bigger advantage in this drill because they don't have to play the run before rushing the passer like they do in many plays in an actual game. They also don't take on any double teams or have to overcome a chip from a running back or tight end. Here is a scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:

On two reps, Connecticut defensive tackle Kendall Reyes beat Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler with a speed rush. Reyes had a really good day. He also bull rushed Wake Forest guard Joe Looney to get to the quarterback marker.

Looney was a late addition to the Senior Bowl, and he had a horrible debut practice. He was bull rushed twice by Washington defensive tackle Alameda Ta'amu. The big nose tackle had no problem pushing Looney onto the marker. It is tough for players to come in late, but Looney showed no strength to anchor.

Zeitler had a win when he stonewalled a bull rush from Boise State defensive tackle Billy Winn, but he also had a rare loss to a bull rush courtesy of Ta'amu.

One of the biggest stars on Tuesday was Michigan defensive tackle Mike Martin. He abused Ohio State center Mike Brewster on multiple reps. He had a few wins on bull rushes and got one win after he rocked Brewster onto his heels before jetting by the center. It was an impressive day from Martin and a disappointing day for Brewster. There was a win for Brewster when he rode Ta'amu around the middle of the pocket on a bull rush.

Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams is a potential first-round pick but he is very inconsistent. He can look great and terrible in back-to-back plays. His first rep was a loss as Virginia defensive end Cam Johnson blew by him on a speed rush. Penn State defensive Jack Crawford did the same thing. Adams rebounded to get some wins including a rush that he stopped cold from Johnson. Adams is a more advanced run blocker than pass blocker entering the next level.

Overall Cincinnati defensive end Derek Wolfe showed well in the one-on-ones. It started slowly when he got pushed around in an ugly fashion by Iowa State tackle/guard Kelechi Osemele. Osemele shoved Wolfe off balance and into the ground. Wolfe bull rushed Penn State's Johnnie Troutman on one rep to get a win. In the rematch Wolfe beat Troutman with a speed rush around the edge. Wolfe beat Washington offensive tackle Senio Kelemete with a bull rush.

Osemele had an impressive win when he stopped a spin move dead in its tracks from Marshall's Vinny Curry. After a tough opening day, Osemele played much better on Tuesday.

Kelemete battled tough with some wins and losses. He had a win on one rep against Curry. After some initial penetration, Kelemete recovered to keep Curry at bay. Curry beat Kelemete with a speed edge rush to close out the one-on-ones.

In the team scrimmage portion of practice, Martin continued to stand out. He burst through the line to blow up one run early on. Martin kept coming and stuffed Polk at the line of scrimmage after Martin beat Utah guard Tony Bergstrom. Don't be surprised if you hear about Martin being one of the stars of Senior Bowl.

There were a few other notable events in Monday's practice. In the team scrimmage McClellin got a sack on a speed rush around the corner. Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson overthrew tight end Michael Egnew running down the middle of the field after Egnew got a step on Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson. Cousins was intercepted by Boise State safety George Iloka after he undercut a pass intended for Igwenagu. It was a good read and break on the ball by Iloka. The quarterbacks did not impress on Tuesday. Cousins is the best prospect of the bunch. All of them had fumbled snaps, especially Boise State's Kellen Moore, who wasn't under center much in college.

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbow ... ctice4.php (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice4.php)

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 06:41 PM
Great stuff hawaiiansteel!! Thanks. Call me crazy but like I said two months ago, I think Lavonte David could play inside in a 3-4. Yes he is a bit undersized but he is so athletic. What he would bring in pass coverage, side line to side pursuit, and blitzing up the middle would make up for his lack of size.

BigRob
01-24-2012, 06:45 PM
2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday North Practice Report

North Carolina State linebacker Audie Cole is a little stiff. He probably would fit best as an inside linebacker in the 3-4.

After the individual period, the linebackers went to a one-on-one scrimmage against running backs, fullbacks and tight ends in blitz protection. Overall the linebackers have the advantage in this drill, but there were players who stood out on both sides of the ball. Here is a scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:

...the other linebacker to really standout was Cole. He beat Polk with a swim move, dodged Ewing with a jab step, and defeated Ohio State running back Boom Herron with a power swim move. Cole lost a rep to Missouri tight end Michael Egnew when he rode him around the pocket.

Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner shed a block from Boise State's Doug Martin before getting to the marker. Wagner bull rushed through Polk for a victory.

Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson had a resounding win when he ran over Herron on one rush. Johnson also had wins against Ewing and Igwenagu.

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbow ... ctice4.php (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice4.php)

I think all of these ILB'ers offer greater value than taking one with the 1st pick.

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 06:57 PM
2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday North Practice Report

North Carolina State linebacker Audie Cole is a little stiff. He probably would fit best as an inside linebacker in the 3-4.

After the individual period, the linebackers went to a one-on-one scrimmage against running backs, fullbacks and tight ends in blitz protection. Overall the linebackers have the advantage in this drill, but there were players who stood out on both sides of the ball. Here is a scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:

...the other linebacker to really standout was Cole. He beat Polk with a swim move, dodged Ewing with a jab step, and defeated Ohio State running back Boom Herron with a power swim move. Cole lost a rep to Missouri tight end Michael Egnew when he rode him around the pocket.

Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner shed a block from Boise State's Doug Martin before getting to the marker. Wagner bull rushed through Polk for a victory.

Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson had a resounding win when he ran over Herron on one rush. Johnson also had wins against Ewing and Igwenagu.

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbow ... ctice4.php (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice4.php)

I think all of these ILB'ers offer greater value than taking one with the 1st pick.

Again I disagree. Hightower (3-4 at Alabama), has a chance to come in and start right away and make an immediate impact and these others you may not get a return on them for their first couple of years.

How is that great value?

BigRob
01-24-2012, 07:10 PM
http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2012-senior-bowl-tuesday-north-practice-notes.html

It was the first day of full pads here at the Senior Bowl, and as expected, it was a GREAT day for scouting the north squad that has some outstanding talent across the board, per usual at the Senior Bowl.

I really focused on the quarterback, receiver, defensive backs today, but I did also get some great battles on the offensive/defensive line plus some intrigue in the linebacker drills.

The Biggest Winners today were: Kirk Cousins, Marvin McNutt, George Iloka, and Bobby Wagner.

Quarterbacks
-I'll start off by partially starting to admit defeat on Kellen Moore of Boise State. I was hopeful that his arm would be a bit more impressive overall, but he seems destined for a subpar week. He, like Nick Foles, relied a lot on their rhythm and receiver-connection in college, Moore mostly because he needed that timing to hide his lack of arm strength. He seems to be throwing off his backfoot at times to get the ball out quickly on quick-outside routes, and when he tries to deliver a strike in the mid-field, he really needs to rock back and get his whole body into it. His pass seemed to float far too much, he was short and off-timed (from his lack of arm) all day. Hopefully he'll get better, but he did NOT look like a draft-pick quarterback today.

-Russell Wilson flashed to me a bit today, and what's most intriguing about him is that his throwing release point is so high for his size. He throws the ball at more of a 6'1-6'2 height, so that may reduce the issue there. He also seemed to "place" the ball very well, accurate putting the ball out in front of the receiver. But, he didn't really drive the ball down the field well, which should be seen even more in team drills when he tries to throw across the middle.

-The clear cut best passer on the North squad today and likely all week is and will be Kirk Cousins of Michigan State. I had him rated as the 2nd best quarterback here, after Brandon Weeden, and today he really showed why I really like his potential as a possible starter in the NFL. He showed some great velocity on the outside, not short arming passes and just letting the ball fly with some better-than-expected arm strength that cut the wind very well. His release was faster than I thought to, likely had that shored up before this event. He looks to me like probably a 30-50 draft selection range quarterback based off film and now during these practices early on.


Running Backs
-Best part of the running back drills today was the pass blocking drills, which despite all five runing backs showing that skill on film, only Wisconsin fullback Bradie Ewing was consistently holding his ground and mirroring well against initial quick rushes. Chris Polk consistently ducked his head and lost battles, and Isaiah Pead and Dan Herron were bull rushed conssitently. Doug Martin didn't do a whole lot either.

-Dan Herron and Doug Martin both did, however, looked explosive through the hole in team drills and really get to their top speed quickly. I do like Dan Herron based off of his film this year, and I think he's maybe a Top 10 back in this draft. Today, in terms of explosion, he didn't look far behind Doug Martin, but it's a long week ahead of us.


Wide Receivers
-Brian Quick of Appalachian State and Marvin McNutt of Iowa are two of the better "ball grabbers" in this draft, meaning they shoot their hands up quickly and forcefully well and don't just let the ball come to them, likely because both have the length and played with some suspect-armed quarterbacks in their time. However, Quick had 4 drops (thanks to Joe Everett of www.RookieDraft.com (http://www.RookieDraft.com) for helping me keep track), which is a concern. McNutt on the other hand didn't drop a pass I say all day. The hands concerns aren't huge with me because if the hand size is big enough and he doesn't short arm receptions, it could just be a bad day or an uncomfortable thing, but it's for sure something to track all well.

-I had heard Marvin Jones of California looked great yesterday (I was at the other practice on Monday), so I was eager to see what he was made of. But after talking with Optimum Scouting's Mark Dulgarian a little further and watching him today, he didn't jump out like I was expecting. He did catch the ball away from his body well and did show some quick twitch stop-start in routes at times today, but he could be more of a one day wonder this week.

-Gerrell Roinson and DeVier Posey both were body catching at times today, and both finished with two drops. But both got vertical pretty well and showed some downfield separation skills today, which both showed on film as well.


Tight Ends
-Didn't the tight ends do a whole lot today, but I thought Michael Egnew held his own against speed rushers in blocking drills today, but needs to fire his hands up with much more aggression and power if he hopes to be any sort of blocker. Also, UMass's Emil Igwenagu, who I already saw a whole week off last week, doesn't seem to be getting to his flat routes as a fullback, but again, not a lot to glean from tight ends today.


Offensive Linemen
-Coming into this week, I wasn't all that high on Mike Adams, and so far he's struggled with exactly what I saw on film. He does use his hands very well and once he locks on and engages, he's rarely beaten to the edge or bull rushed. But when he doesn't lock on early, he's very suceptible to counter inside rushes and overall quicker rushes. I think he'll struggle mightily against quicker 3-4 outside linebackers in the NFL as a left tackle. And overall, he doesn't seem to be explosion, aggressive or willing to drive block down field. As an offensive tackle, I NEED to see that. That's why I'm unsure if he play the right side in the NFL.

-Mike Brewster, also of Ohio State had some fierce battles with Mike Martin. When he did win those battles, he showed some very good inside hand placement and repositioned his hands well against the powerful Martin. He does struggle to stay low and not let rushers get undeath, however. He told me that he'll only be playing center this week due to Senior Bowl injuries.

-Kelechi Osemele is looking much better than expected at right tackle. He's a massive human being, but he's been able to hold his ground very well and overpower pass rushers consistently. He's not a left tackle-pass blocker and I'll be curious to see how he'll consistently hold up against the 3-4 speed rushers on the North sqaud. So far, so good for Osemele.


Defensive Linemen
-Kendall Reyes was the most surpring defensive tackle that played well to me. On film he didn't really show a lot of versatility in his rushes and really was a power only guy. So far in today's practice, he's been using that power rush ability to punch, push, then dip under or swim over guys much better than expected. We'll see how he looks tomorrow and more in deep drills, but it was a surprisingly good day for Reyes.

-Vinny Curry flashed a bit today, but maybe his most notable rush to me is when he lost his balance on an outside edge low rush, further having my concerns about his actual balance and flexibility. He'll REALLY need to show that ability to be a do-it-all type rusher and some natural 3-4 outside linebacker ability. He did tell me though that teams are primairly looking at him as a 4-3 defensive end, however.

-Jack Crawford of Penn State showed some powerful punch and rip moves today, showing off some powerful hands and entire upper half. He has flashed on film the last three years but wasn't able to string together a few good games in a row to be a Top 3 round prospect. If he can flash all four major practices and in the game this week, however, he could really start to live up to some team's loft expectations from his earlier career.


Linebackers
-The clearcut most athletic linebacker here was Bobby Wagner of Utah State. He was very quick, smooth, and by far the most balanced in quick linebacker drills, and showed some great initial burst and quick rush moves in pass rushing drills. He didn't always show great explosion or power on film, so I'm curious to see if he can drive through traffic this week. But he sure looked the part based on drills and vs. the running backs today.

-James Michael Johnson was a bit stiff and high today in his quick linebacker drills (the same ones Bobby Wagner wowed in), and doesn't look like he transitions well in his breaks cleanly, a concern I had from film. He did show great power and some natural rush moves in pass rushing drills today however. He has the power and size of a great inside linebacker, no question, but he'll need to show a complete game to be a top three rounder. '

-Audie Cole of NC State was far more fluid and smooth as an athlete than I thought he would be. He wasn't anything outstanding or rare, but if he can move like that in drills, it shows he's more than just a very tall, lanky, somewhat position-less linebacker and could really develop into something. Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David was so forceful today in drills, vs. running backs, and in team play today. It's hard not to really like him on film because he's got great reactions, explosions well, and continously is around the ball.


Defensive Backs
-Let me start by saying that I have never been a big fan of Alfonso Dennard because he's only a physical, short area guy. He was beat deep a lot again today on some longer, smooth deep receivers today. He's going to struggle all week long because he needs to be able to get his hands on guys early and often to be successful. He struggled with that today once again.

-Asa Jackson of Cal Poly had a rough day today, as he struggled to stay tight in man coverage and didn't stay low and fluid in his transitions. I think it was more of a sloppy day technique-wise for him, but based on talking with him about his passion for the game and to get better, I think he'll only get better this week.

-Leonard Jackson showed some really good stuff today in staying tight with the receiver, getting physical at the line of scrimmage, and closing on quick comeback or out routes well. But he was beat deep a handful of times today and it really looks like his lackluster heigh-speed combination is really going to hurt him this week.

-George Iloka utilized his length well today, as he covered the middle seam tight end route well and actually closed downhill and came up with an interception today on a 7 yard out route by the tight end. This could be the start of a fantastic week for Iloka.

Dee Dub
01-24-2012, 07:40 PM
I am watching today's practice and am impressed with Cordy Glenn and Zebrie Sanders. They say Sanders struggled yesterday versus Quinton Coples but today he was doing pretty well versus him. And whoever gets NT Brandon Thompson, whether it be late first round or early second round, is going to get a very tenacious football player. Also you can say the same about Courtney Upshaw. He has an impressive bull-rush.

hawaiiansteel
01-25-2012, 02:03 PM
2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday Rumor Mill

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

Georgia guard/tackle Cordy Glenn was a topic of discussion with some scouts today. The consensus scouts have is that Glenn has to be a guard at the next level. Glenn played left tackle as a senior with the Bulldogs, but it doesn't sound like he is being viewed as a possible tackle at the next level on either side of the line. Scouts told me today that Glenn does have the mobility to play in a zone blocking scheme. Even though the 6-foot-5, 346-pound Glenn fits nicely in a power man blocking scheme, they also believe he has the quickness and athleticism to be a zone blocker. That flexibility helps Glenn to appeal to more teams. Right now he looks like a potential pick in the second half of the first round.

Word is that the Cleveland Browns have serious interest in Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams. He has been inconsistent in Mobile, and that was his track record with the Buckeyes. Still, Adams plays a position with a high demand, and at the Senior Bowl he has also taken reps at right tackle. Cleveland could target Adams with their second first-round pick (from Atlanta) to upgrade their right side and replace veteran Tony Pashos. Adams could be a good bookend on the other side from Joe Thomas.

http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors2.php

Slapstick
01-25-2012, 03:52 PM
Lavonte David is about 225 lbs.

Larry Foote's playing weight as a starter in the Steelers D was about 230 lbs...

David could play inside...

Shawn
01-25-2012, 04:13 PM
It doesn't surprise me at all that McNutt is struting his stuff. He is the most undervalued WR in this draft. First round talent...no doubt in my mind he should be a late first round early second round guy. I suspect a team will catch on and he will be gone before 40.

steelsnis
01-25-2012, 05:01 PM
From Mike Prisuta's Twitter:

OSU OT Mike Adams impressing at Senior Bowl but also drawing Marcus Gilbert comparisons. Scout: "(Adams) needs to prove he loves football..."

grotonsteel
01-25-2012, 05:24 PM
From Mike Prisuta's Twitter:

OSU OT Mike Adams impressing at Senior Bowl but also drawing Marcus Gilbert comparisons. Scout: "(Adams) needs to prove he loves football..."


I read on some website that Cleveland Browns are very much interested in Mike Adams for their RT position.


P.S: Thanks HawaiianSteel for the Senior Bowl Updates.. :Cheers

Dee Dub
01-25-2012, 07:19 PM
Lavonte David is about 225 lbs.

Larry Foote's playing weight as a starter in the Steelers D was about 230 lbs...

David could play inside...

I agree and he could add 10lbs. What he brings will off-set for lack of size.

Dee Dub
01-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Heath Evans the former NFL FB who is at the Senior Bowl practice just said on the NFL Network that Cordy Glenn has owned, Quinton Coples, Courtney Upshaw, and Melvin Ingram.

If he falls past 18 I think the Steelers should trade up to get him. I have been saying it for the past 4 plus months this guy is the real deal. And he is a legitimate LT.

Dee Dub
01-25-2012, 07:37 PM
Whew!!! Chris Rainey can fly. He is beating everyone he is going against. Being sued as both RB and WR. I am beginning to think he may not be there in the 6th as I have in my sig.

hawaiiansteel
01-25-2012, 11:28 PM
2012 NFL Draft Blog

last updated: 01/25/12
***

Day 3 Practice Notes: North.

Sunny and warm conditions at Ladd Peebles Stadium for Wednesday morning's full pad practice. A decent breeze flowed across the stadium from end zone to end zone, close your eyes it feels like you are on the beach. Well it would, if not for all the frantic shouting, whistles, air-horns, and body slams.

How to succeed at the Senior Bowl, Rule 4: Quarterbacks, pull the trigger, please. Scouts didn't travel all these miles to see you tuck and run.

TRENCH POSITIONS:

Iowa State offensive tackle Kelechi Osemele had an up-and-down day. Initially, defenders were getting the better of him in drills, and he lost his balance. But after some coaching, Osemele came back and had several lockdown performances. Osemele is raw but has rare athletic gifts for a player of his bulk. When he stays over his base he plays with strength and is tough to move. He is a solid second or third round pick, with upside to start, probably not right away however.

Penn State defensive end Jack Crawford was a force all day long. He ran over linemen in the Pit drills and created penetration in the team portion of practice. Crawford excels at using arm extension to create separation from blockers and he also aggressively uses smart hand placement. Crawford also displayed a non-stop motor on the outside. Crawford is probably on the cusp of top 100 selections, and can firm that grade up with good track performances.

Marshall defensive end Vinny Curry had an excellent overall day. Curry has an array of pass rush moves: he can swim, rip, push-pull and also blow by his blocker around the edge. Curry has a nice first step and plays with strength setting the edge. One thing to note, Curry was not used in linebacker drills and is likely a 4-3 hand in the dirt defensive end all the way. Other sites have this player projected to the 3-4 defense as an outside linebacker, this is probably wishful thinking. He fits one gap schemes well (for example the Minnesota Vikings, who are coaching this North squad). Curry is a likely second round pick, possibly sneaking into the late first pending workouts.

Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner is an exceptional coverage player, and showed sideline to sideline speed sticking with running backs and tight ends during drills. He has the attributes to be a three down linebacker in the league. Wagner can be overwhelmed filling against the run and needs to improve his stoutness. Wagner is a possible top 100 pick, pending workouts.

Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson excels inside the box. He is extremely stout against the run and does a good job diagnosing the play. Johnson can be exploited in pass coverage, however and he might be a two-down run specialist at the next level. However he does offer blitz potential and could be better off rushing the passer than trying to cover in passing situations. Johnson looks to be an interesting late round target in the draft.

Arkansas State linebacker Demarrio Davis shows quickness to fill the hole and stuff run plays. He also has enough speed to get to the outside and stick with underneath coverage. Linemen have trouble finding him and getting their hands on him in run blocking. Davis is slightly undersized however and this could hurt his stock, limiting his appeal to only one-gap defenses. Davis is a possible late round pick, with upside to go in the mid rounds if he runs well.

Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David is a speedster at the linebacker position and extremely physical when making the tackle. David excels in pursuit and stretching run plays out to the sideline. David lacks the bulk for two-gap defenses but could be an excellent weak-side backer for 4-3 teams. David has incredible production on film and because of that, is a possible top 100 pick, pending workouts.

SKILL POSITIONS:

Boise State running back Doug Martin has been very good all week long. Martin broke a long run in the first rep of team drills. He has explosion and burst through the hole, but also shiftiness and vision to find open space. Martin is stocky and can be tough to bring down. On the downside it?s questionable if this player has the extra gear to outrun N.F.L. defenses, and that question can be answered on the track. The coaches are using him at kick returner, and that bodes well for his long speed. Martin is a solid second or third round pick, with upside to crack the late first, pending workouts.

Michigan State quarterback Kirk Cousins had a very solid day of practice. He throws a nice sharp ball and has the strength to deliver the ball outside the numbers. Cousins shows accuracy on routes over the middle, and does a good job putting the ball in stride, where the receivers can make yards after the catch. Cousins is a likely mid round pick and likely backup initially.

Washington running back Chris Polk is a tough runner and excels inside the tackles. Polk delivers blows to the defenders, stays low, and is a chore to tackle. On the downside, he appears to lack the elite speed needed to break the long gain but could be a grinder in a run-first tandem. Polk is a likely late round pick with potential to go in the mid rounds with good workouts.

Cal wide out Marvin Jones has been a consistently high performer all week. He makes all the grabs and runs sharp routes, quickly in and out of cuts. The quarterbacks know they can rely on Jones, and he is seeing increased targets. Jones was somewhat of a sleeper prior to this week but the word is clearly out and has elevated his stock to top 100 status, pending workouts.

Iowa wide out Marvin McNutt is a larger receiver who had a pretty good day. He has the size to overpower the defenders in man coverage and get off the line against the jam. McNutt has big, sure hands, and today he excelled in a variety of routes. A particular strength of his game is presenting a big target for crossing and out routes. McNutt probably lacks the elite speed to be a high draft pick, but could be a productive security blanket type target in the mid rounds.

Notre Dame safety Harrison Smith is a sure tackler and showed good range getting around the field. Smith excels against the run and can support the line with speed. Smith needs to do a better job of diagnosing the play and his change of direction could be improved. Smith is a likely late round target at this time.

http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.htm

steelblood
01-26-2012, 08:39 AM
Lavonte David is about 225 lbs.

Larry Foote's playing weight as a starter in the Steelers D was about 230 lbs...

David could play inside...

I agree and he could add 10lbs. What he brings will off-set for lack of size.

Yes, I want to draft David! He would be awesome!

Remember Farrior admitting that he finished a few seasons ago at 215? And, that he regularly plays at 225 (despite his listed weight)?

David is a compact athlete. He is very well built. He would be undersized, but he hits hard. He is a playmaker and would be good on third down and would force a bunch of fumbles.

RuthlessBurgher
01-26-2012, 11:14 AM
Whew!!! Chris Rainey can fly. He is beating everyone he is going against. Being sued as both RB and WR. I am beginning to think he may not be there in the 6th as I have in my sig.

When I read your post, I thought Rainey gave up football for track, so why would he be at the Senior Bowl practices? But then I looked it up and it was Demps instead. Got my Gator RB's all confyoozled.

RuthlessBurgher
01-26-2012, 08:21 PM
One thing to note, Curry was not used in linebacker drills and is likely a 4-3 hand in the dirt defensive end all the way. Other sites have this player projected to the 3-4 defense as an outside linebacker, this is probably wishful thinking. He fits one gap schemes well (for example the Minnesota Vikings, who are coaching this North squad). Curry is a likely second round pick, possibly sneaking into the late first pending workouts.


I wonder if the Vikings staff (who has the 35th pick, right around where Curry is projected) covet him as a pass-rushing DE opposite Jared Allen, and are playing him solely as a 4-3 DE for selfish reasons...if they also gave him a shot as a 3-4 OLB in these practices, it increases number of teams who might take a shot at him early, and there might be a 3-4 team that would pick him prior to pick 35, and they don't want that to happen.

hawaiiansteel
02-01-2012, 02:24 AM
Scout Talk: Senior Bowl

by Dan Pompei
Jan 29, 2012


As usual, the Senior Bowl practices last week helped separate prospects in the eyes of NFL scouts. Here is what NFL front office men were talking about after they returned from Mobile Ala., last week.

Quarterbacks—The player who clearly stood out at this position was Brandon Weeden from Oklahoma State. His arm strength was very good comparatively. It helped that he seemed to pick up the offense quickly. He could be a second round pick, and one scouting director even said if Weeden were 22 instead of 28, he’d be a first round pick. NFL teams also liked what they saw of Wisconsin’s Russell Wilson, even though he measured in at 5-10. The lack of arm strength Kellen Moore showed will not help his draft stock.

Running backs—This group did not leave a major impression, but two players created a little buzz. The first was Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead, whose versatility appeals to NFL teams. The other was Florida’s Chris Rainey. He’s probably a down the line guy at 5-8, 178, but he partook in some of the receiver one-on-one drills and looked decent. He has some potential as an offensive weapon who can line up in different places.

Wide receivers—Wideouts often make a big impression on Senior Bowl week, but that didn’t happen this year. A few scouts agreed Jeff Fuller of Texas A&M was disappointing. He had trouble separating and catching, and his stock remains on the decline. A number of the receivers flashed. Among them, according to front office men, were Cal’s Marvin Jones, Arizona’s Juron Criner, Ohio State’s Devier Posey, Arkansas’ Joe Adams, Appalachian State’s Brian Quick and Houston’s Patrick Edwards.

Tight end—Alabama’s Brad Smelley has been on the rise all year, and he continued to help his stock at the Senior Bowl by getting open and catching the ball well. For a player who wasn’t on anyone’s radar in the preseason, Smelley has come quite a long way. Missouri tight end Michael Egnew was a little disappointing.

Offensive line—None of the offensive linemen really lit it up. Best of the bunch, according to a couple evaluators, was Ohio State’s Mike Adams. He clearly was the most gifted blocker in Mobile, though scouts still have some questions on him. One player who helped his stock is Jeff Allen from Illinois. His competitiveness and effort left an impression. Two others who had good weeks were Ohio State’s Mike Brewster and Baylor’s Philip Blake. Less encouraging were the showings of Florida State’s Zebrie Sanders and Wisconsin’s Kevin Zeitler.

Defensive line—There was more talent at this position than any other. North Carolina’s Quinton Coples solidified himself as a top 10 pick and clearly was the class of the group. Two others who helped themselves and may have become solid first rounders were Alabama’s Courtney Upshaw and South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram, whose versatility makes him a fit for any kind of defense. Teams that use a three man front came away very impressed with Ta’amu Alameda of Washington. No way he gets out of round two. In one-on-one pass rush drills, Kendall Reyes of Connecticut showed surprising athleticism for his size.

Linebackers—Emmanuel Acho from Texas had a decent week, even showing some pass rush ability. There still is some question as to whether or not he is an inside linebacker or outside linebacker for 3-4 teams, however. North Carolina’s Zach Brown also impressed scouts with is speed and explosiveness. Nebraska’s Lavonte David flashed.

Safeties—Harrison Smith of Notre Dame had a pretty good week, but scouts still have some concern about him playing the deep middle. His interviews were strong. George Iloka of Boise State also did pretty well. Dequan Menzie of Alabama played some safety and corner, but NFL teams still aren’t sure what he is.

Cornerbacks—North Alabama’s Janoris Jenkins confirmed what everyone already knew—that he has first round talent. He was the best corner in the game. I got mixed reviews on Nebraska’s Alfonzo Dennard. One scout said he moved more like a running back than a corner. Cal Poly’s Asa Jackson had a chance to really help himself, but didn’t capitalize. He looked better on tape than he did at Senior Bowl practices. Dwight Bentley of Louisiana-Lafayette had a good week, competing well. Scouts loved the athleticism Georgia’s Brandon Boykin showed, but he didn’t cover all that well. His instincts and ability to react remain question marks.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP ... -3115.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3115.html)

papillon
02-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Sounds like the scouts weren't impressed with this year's seniors overall.

Pappy

Dee Dub
02-01-2012, 12:33 PM
Sounds like the scouts weren't impressed with this year's seniors overall.

Pappy

This is from Dan Pompei of SI. I wouldnt listen too much to what he has to say. We heard all week from Heath Evans, Charles Davis, and Mike Mayock that Cordy Glenn was dominant. And Pompei has no mention of him what so ever? :roll: