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SteelCrazy
01-19-2012, 03:21 AM
Per a site we are not allowed to post links to states during a Spreecast video chat, Gilbert said he was told during an exit meeting with the coaching staff that he'll likely be moved to LT. This means Max Starks will likely be gone in 2012 and Willie Colon will be brought back to play RT. Pouncey will play center, if he stays healthy. So we need a LG and RG. We have Legs, Scott, Foster, Essex and Kemo. I dont know what all this means, but I dont like it either.

hawaiiansteel
01-19-2012, 03:33 AM
it means that Gilbert and Colon are slated to be our starting OTs and Pouncey of course will start at OC.

Kemo is as good as gone so Legursky and Foster will be given the first shot to be our starting OGs and competition will come from a high draft choice or two and a possible low level FA signing.

Oviedo
01-19-2012, 09:15 AM
While I think Gilbert performed OK, but no way did I see the level of perfomance that would lead me to believe he is ready to play LT and protect Ben's blindside. I don't see anything yet except a slightly more talented Jon Scott. That is not enough to protect a franchise QB.

I'm hoping for Starks to come back.

phillyesq
01-19-2012, 09:25 AM
While I think Gilbert performed OK, but no way did I see the level of perfomance that would lead me to believe he is ready to play LT and protect Ben's blindside. I don't see anything yet except a slightly more talented Jon Scott. That is not enough to protect a franchise QB.

I'm hoping for Starks to come back.

I'd also like to see Starks return, if for no other reason than depth, but with Starks having an ACL injury, who knows how much he'll weigh when the season starts.

Gilbert showed a lot of potential, but he also has room to go. The injury to Starks may allow the Steelers to retain him for the vet minimum, and let Starks, Colon and Gilbert compete.

MeetJoeGreene
01-19-2012, 09:42 AM
Don't forget .. Gilbert didn't have OTA or full training camp and he still did passable. A lot of players make great strides between year 1 and 2.... so it is not out of the question that he could turn into at least as good of a tackle as Starks (especially with his ACL).

BradshawsHairdresser
01-19-2012, 09:55 AM
For some reason, the Steelers hate Starks and love Colon. If they treated Max like they're treating Willie, after Max tore his ACL in the final game, they'd have given him a raise and penciled him in as the starter.

For the life of me, I can't see how Colon > Starks.

LouSteel
01-19-2012, 10:42 AM
Well, it looks like another season of OL musical chairs :lol:

I liked Gilbert, but I like him more at RT. Give him the chance to develop and learn a position.

LT at 1.24? I don't follow college ball enough, are there any good projections there?

pfelix73
01-19-2012, 10:50 AM
This has been talked about locally ever since training camp....Why are there still some people surprised by this? Oh well, some just don't get the memo....

:D

RuthlessBurgher
01-19-2012, 11:30 AM
Well, it looks like another season of OL musical chairs :lol:

I liked Gilbert, but I like him more at RT. Give him the chance to develop and learn a position.

LT at 1.24? I don't follow college ball enough, are there any good projections there?

I don't see any legit OT prospects at 1.24. USC's Matt Kalil, Iowa's Riley Reiff, and Stanford's Jonathan Martin will all likely be off the board in the top half of the first round (and therefore out of our reach in round 1). The next tier of OT's (the Florida State pair Zebrie Sanders and Andrew Datko plus Ohio State's Mike Adams, among others) are likely day two picks.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-19-2012, 11:35 AM
I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp. I also know there is alot of Colon haters. :shock: :wink: However, when healthy, & it appears that will be the case, he is a very good RT. This OL is one OG away from being very good and a second OG (which may be on the roster or in the draft) away from turning that corner and finally being a strength. Bash who you want...But I will take the 3 penciled starters and build.

Oviedo
01-19-2012, 11:37 AM
Well, it looks like another season of OL musical chairs :lol:

I liked Gilbert, but I like him more at RT. Give him the chance to develop and learn a position.

LT at 1.24? I don't follow college ball enough, are there any good projections there?

I don't see any legit OT prospects at 1.24. USC's Matt Kalil, Iowa's Riley Reiff, and Stanford's Jonathan Martin will all likely be off the board in the top half of the first round (and therefore out of our reach in round 1). The next tier of OT's (the Florida State pair Zebrie Sanders and Andrew Datko plus Ohio State's Mike Adams, among others) are likely day two picks.

The player that interests me is Cordy Glenn who could develop into a good OT, maybe even a LT, but would be able to step in immediately at Guard. He will likely be there at 1.24 unless he just blows away teams leading up to the draft.

My non-professional football scout opinion is that Zebrie Sanders is just too light to be a factor in Year 1. Datko and Adams are proably late Round 2 picks at best. I also really like Kevin Zeitler from Wisconsin as a Round 2 consideration.

I have no faith that Colon comes back healthy or stays that way so I'm with those who expect another year of the "OL Shuffle"

ikestops85
01-19-2012, 11:42 AM
I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp. I also know there is alot of Colon haters. :shock: :wink: However, when healthy, & it appears that will be the case, he is a very good RT. This OL is one OG away from being very good and a second OG (which may be on the roster or in the draft) away from turning that corner and finally being a strength. Bash who you want...But I will take the 3 penciled starters and build.

Count me in as one of the Colon haters. Not really a hater but definately a basher. The guy is a walking penalty flag machine. He hasn't played in over two years so it will take him at least a year of playing before he gets back to his mediocre self. I don't know if Ben will last that long. The biggest thing Colon has going for himself is he's Ben's BFF.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-19-2012, 11:51 AM
Well, it looks like another season of OL musical chairs :lol:

I liked Gilbert, but I like him more at RT. Give him the chance to develop and learn a position.

LT at 1.24? I don't follow college ball enough, are there any good projections there?

I don't see any legit OT prospects at 1.24. USC's Matt Kalil, Iowa's Riley Reiff, and Stanford's Jonathan Martin will all likely be off the board in the top half of the first round (and therefore out of our reach in round 1). The next tier of OT's (the Florida State pair Zebrie Sanders and Andrew Datko plus Ohio State's Mike Adams, among others) are likely day two picks.

I agree. Not a great OT draft in the middle & end of the 1st. You throw some of these guys in some of the last 3 years of draft classes the scale would widen. There will be teams overdrafting them on need in the late 1st early second and I assume the Steelers won't be one. I don't see the Steelers looking for one early if they feel Colon will be fines & Gilbert will move to LT. Sounds like this will be the case. My gut tells me we won't see and OT inside the 1st three rounds.

Not a good year for OG at the Top but you could land one that may have you shaking your head in a couple of years in the 2nd & 3rd. I want Decastro in the 1st. Only OL I would take if he fell at #24...Which won't happen. Out of the guys early who may be in our range... I Like Washington & Zeitler in the 2nd or Nix in the 3rd. I actually believe all of them will win a starting spot day 1.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-19-2012, 01:57 PM
To count on Willie Colon in any capacity after missing the past two seasons due to injury is retarded. Heck, even relying on Pouncey at this point is worrisome considering his ankle history.

Dee Dub
01-19-2012, 02:19 PM
I don't see any legit OT prospects at 1.24. USC's Matt Kalil, Iowa's Riley Reiff, and Stanford's Jonathan Martin will all likely be off the board in the top half of the first round (and therefore out of our reach in round 1). The next tier of OT's (the Florida State pair Zebrie Sanders and Andrew Datko plus Ohio State's Mike Adams, among others) are likely day two picks.

This time last year no one thought Marcus Gilbert could come in and start immediately. I think Zebrie Sanders could start and do a solid job at RT. And I know if Cordy Glenn is there at 24 he can start at LT or G and be solid.

Dee Dub
01-19-2012, 02:20 PM
To count on Willie Colon in any capacity after missing the past two seasons due to injury is retarded. Heck, even relying on Pouncey at this point is worrisome considering his ankle history.

I wouldnt use that word you used but I agree. It isnt a very smart thing to do.

Dee Dub
01-19-2012, 02:22 PM
I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp..........

I could see this too JPN.

Good post.

ikestops85
01-19-2012, 02:24 PM
[quote="JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":13934f6k]I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp..........

I could see this too JPN.

Good post.[/quote:13934f6k]

I hope you guys are right. I just know that I was impressed with the job Gilbert did coming in as a rookie. I don't think Colon would have done nearly as well.

Dee Dub
01-19-2012, 02:31 PM
The player that interests me is Cordy Glenn who could develop into a good OT, maybe even a LT, but would be able to step in immediately at Guard. He will likely be there at 1.24 unless he just blows away teams leading up to the draft.

Agreed! I've been on his band wagon all last college season




My non-professional football scout opinion is that Zebrie Sanders is just too light to be a factor in Year 1. Datko and Adams are proably late Round 2 picks at best. I also really like Kevin Zeitler from Wisconsin as a Round 2 consideration. "

Disagree!! Strongly. I believe he is bigger than what he is listed at ( 6ft 6 307). He supposedly under went a severe weight training program last spring and got bigger and stronger. Regardless of his weight is is reported to be a very strong player and he shows that on the field. Also not sure what it is but he has a tremendous wing span. Which for pass blocking is a plus. Also he is a 4 year start. That is huge.

By the way..Marcus Gilbert his sophmore year at Florida was 6 ft 6 298.

Dee Dub
01-19-2012, 02:33 PM
[quote="JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":2efbjrt0]I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp..........

I could see this too JPN.

Good post.

I hope you guys are right. I just know that I was impressed with the job Gilbert did coming in as a rookie. I don't think Colon would have done nearly as well.[/quote:2efbjrt0]

I am not on the Willie Colon bandwagon as much as I am on drafting Zebrie Sanders or Cordy Glenn for that spot.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
01-19-2012, 02:53 PM
For some reason, the Steelers hate Starks and love Colon. If they treated Max like they're treating Willie, after Max tore his ACL in the final game, they'd have given him a raise and penciled him in as the starter.

For the life of me, I can't see how Colon > Starks.

I've been banging that drum since Colon beat out Starks for the staring RT job in 2007.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-19-2012, 04:16 PM
To count on Willie Colon in any capacity after missing the past two seasons due to injury is retarded. Heck, even relying on Pouncey at this point is worrisome considering his ankle history.

We won't have to worry about that. The Steelers will know that going into the draft. Colon is already fully recovered & Pouncey is expected not to miss a beat. The retarded front office knows what they are doing. :wink:

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
01-19-2012, 04:18 PM
[quote="JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":2cyci37e]I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp..........

I could see this too JPN.

Good post.

I hope you guys are right. I just know that I was impressed with the job Gilbert did coming in as a rookie. I don't think Colon would have done nearly as well.[/quote:2cyci37e]

New shoes always smell better than the old ones. :wink:

SteelCrazy
01-19-2012, 04:32 PM
it means that Gilbert and Colon are slated to be our starting OTs and Pouncey of course will start at OC.

Kemo is as good as gone so Legursky and Foster will be given the first shot to be our starting OGs and competition will come from a high draft choice or two and a possible low level FA signing.

I knew what it meant on the outs and C but I am worried about the G's. Legs is a great back up, but I dont like his play every week, seems inconsistent. Foster is a mammoth of a man but that doesnt translate into anything if you cant play well. Just worried

steelblood
01-19-2012, 04:56 PM
I personally think Gilbert will blossom at LT and turn out to be on a "Marvel Smith" level or better. He has some pretty good feet and I like how he can recover because of his body control. He just plays over his feet...That is something you like to have going against speed rushers with some wiggle. You guys don't give him enough credit for what he did as a rookie without a camp. I also know there is alot of Colon haters. :shock: :wink: However, when healthy, & it appears that will be the case, he is a very good RT. This OL is one OG away from being very good and a second OG (which may be on the roster or in the draft) away from turning that corner and finally being a strength. Bash who you want...But I will take the 3 penciled starters and build.

I thought Gilbert had a fantastic year. In some games, he was our best run blocker. His pass blocking was good in most games and poor in a few. Gilbert may never be an all pro type. But, he could be a solid LT or RT for years to come. Excellent draft choice who has already paid dividends.

NJ-STEELER
01-19-2012, 06:31 PM
i'd rather they keep him on the Right wghere i feel he can be dominant. not sure if he has the attibutes tio be that on the left

and please dont draft a RT #1. as we've seen we can fill that later in the draft pretty nicely

NorthCoast
01-19-2012, 08:19 PM
For some reason, the Steelers hate Starks and love Colon. If they treated Max like they're treating Willie, after Max tore his ACL in the final game, they'd have given him a raise and penciled him in as the starter.

For the life of me, I can't see how Colon > Starks.

Every non-Steeler site I have visited ranked Colon as top 5 RT in the league when he was starting. I guess we have the blinders on and see only the gaffs and not the good.

steeler_george
01-20-2012, 08:06 AM
I think Gilbert would be able to manage LT, better than anyone we have on the roster now. Unfortunately, Starks is injured and I can't really see him being penciled in as the starter even if he is signed, because the length of recovery and then is he going to be is game shape. Going forward to next year, I don't think there is a FA or a rookie able to step in at LT from day one. Gilbert is the only option at this point.

With Gilbert at LT, Colon will resume his play at RT, again by default. He played extremely well, but the injury bug got him again. Now if he can stay healthy, we have 2 good, solid Tackles.

Foster I think will given the shot to start, he maybe a little inconsistant , but then again playing next to different players different sides on a weekly basis might of been the biggest factor.

The same with Legurski.

But we have no depth and at either Guard or Tackle.

I see them drafting OL early and often. They will select the BPA available with the emphasis on Guard. And probably grab a Tackle in the 3rd or 4th for development.

Gilbert- Rookie-Pouncy-Foster/Leg-Colon

reservers
G either Foster/Leg, C. Scott
T FA, Rookie and going on a limb and sign Essx and Starks back again at a bargain.