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hawaiiansteel
01-15-2012, 09:55 PM
On the Steelers: Who needs defense anymore?

Sunday, January 15, 2012
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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All-Pro center Maurkice Pouncey is a good cornerstorne for any future offensive line, but they have to do better than Chris Kemoeatu and Ramon Foster.

The playoffs resumed this weekend with the possibility of a historic matchup in the Super Bowl pitting the NFL's worst two defenses.

Yes, No. 32 Green Bay vs. No. 31 New England.

And where is the No. 1 defense? Home, after losing for the first time in the playoffs to a team without a winning record, a team with the No. 23 offense and No. 20 defense.

The Steelers had the No. 1 defense in 2011, stingiest in the NFL in allowing both points and yards, although its puny 15 takeaways should call for an asterisk.

The lack of takeaways not only hurt the defense, it probably helped hold down an offense that ranked a respectable 12th in the NFL in yards produced but tied for a lousy 21st in points scored. Turnovers help produce points, and the defense did not help as it did in 2010 when the defense/special teams captured 35 loose footballs in one manner or another.

The question posed for 2012 then is this: Is defense relevant anymore? If a team has a great quarterback and a high-powered offense, can it overcome just about any deficiencies on defense the way the Packers (No. 3 offense) and Patriots (No. 2 offense) have done, the way the New Orleans Saints (No. 1 offense, 24 defense) have done, the way the New York Giants (No. 8 offense, 27 defense) have done?

It is beyond time we scrap half of this cliche: "Offense sells tickets, defense wins championships." The second part does not hold true anymore in the NFL, where offense wins games, wins championships and, most importantly, turns on more television sets than ever.

This may be the time for the Steelers to rethink how they approach the makeup of their team. Instead of spending their money on defense, it might be time to build up the offense, which the NFL keeps creating rules to encourage.

They have the quarterback and seem to have the receivers and the backs. Now, they must find better talent for their offensive line and maybe a second tight end.

It's hard for many of us to keep a straight face when it's suggested the Steelers have a capable offensive line. Oh? They tried two different combinations at the most important line position, left tackle, in 2011 before they threw up their hands and reluctantly re-signed Max Starks, who has never been one of the coaches' favorites. He started a few days later in the fifth game of the season and stayed there right through his ACL injury in Denver.

They suddenly decided that Chris Kemoeatu, after 31/2 years as their starting left guard, was no longer good enough. The coaches also decided that their starting right guard from 2010, Ramon Foster, wasn't good enough to keep the job, but then he was good enough to start the final 14 games, including the playoff loss in Denver.

It's a mess, and they need to straighten it out, which they have started doing in the draft with center Maurkice Pouncey and tackle Marcus Gilbert the past two years.

Ben Roethlisberger turns 30 this year and needs to stay upright more often as he ages. His injuries this season are one reason the Steelers are home watching playoff football on television today.

Roethlisberger won't like this, but he also needs to change his approach. He has been the best quarterback at extending plays and making plays when he does. However, wouldn't it be nice if he could just complete the pass without all the drama? You know, with a quick release to one of those quick and speedy young receivers who can then do their thing after the catch?

It's not asking much. Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers do it. It is understandable that Roethlisberger resists it when the media mentions it because he has been largely successful doing it his way. He and Bruce Arians love to go deep, but with Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders and, if they use him more, Heath Miller, the Steelers have the kind of skill that can torture defenses with shorter passes, along with the deep threat that is Mike Wallace.

With those receivers, there is no excuse for only 10 teams scoring fewer points than the Steelers did last season. Another reason for that was their so-so play inside the 20, where quick decisions are mandated. The Steelers ranked 18th with a touchdown rate of 50.9 percent once they cracked the red zone, coming away with 27 touchdowns on 53 trips.

The New York Jets somehow were No. 1 at that (perhaps, they would have been 4-12 had they been in the middle of the pack), but No. 2 was New England, 3 Green Bay, 6 New Orleans and 8 the New York Giants.

Had the Steelers been as successful inside the 20 as the Patriots (65.3 percent), they would have scored eight more touchdowns. That comes to at least 32 more points, and it might have won them a few more games, including the one in Denver when they reached the Broncos' 27 and 20 in the first quarter and kicked field goals both times. Not technically the red zone, but the same issues.

On to the backfield.

Rashard Mendenhall has a torn ACL that needs surgery. Before the injury, he was a boom-or-bust back who was said to be a breakaway threat even though he broke away for only three gains of more than 20 yards last season.

Isaac Redman equaled that in the final two games alone. Mendenhall had three 100-yard games. Redman and Jonathan Dwyer combined for two, counting the playoff. Redman deserves more time and carries, even if Mendenhall heals perfectly and is ready to go at next season's start. Redman fits more for what the team needs and maybe even wants. He's not just a short-yardage back, and he has proven that time and again. He replaced Mendenhall in Cleveland and ran for 92 yards on 19 carries (4.8 average). He ran for 121 in Denver on just 17 carries (7.1).

At best, the halfback duties in 2012 should be split between the two. Mewelde Moore is a free agent and rookie Baron Batch, who missed the season with an ACL tear, could replace him. Jonathan Dwyer and John Clay seem to be capable backups.

The Steelers also need to find a second tight end, one who primarily blocks, to free Heath Miller to showcase his receiving ability for when Roethlisberger alters his style in 2012 with that new quick release he always has had in his arsenal but has been reluctant to use.

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drprwnap
01-15-2012, 10:40 PM
naah.... let's keep looking for the best ILB in the draft :stirpot

DukieBoy
01-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Roethlisberger won't like this, but he also needs to change his approach. He has been the best quarterback at extending plays and making plays when he does. However, wouldn't it be nice if he could just complete the pass without all the drama? You know, with a quick release to one of those quick and speedy young receivers who can then do their thing after the catch?


Like he did effectively in the NE Game,iirc ??? Why didn't we see that anymore? Not in the game plan? Stubborn? Vanity? Or what?

Chadman
01-16-2012, 12:24 AM
The Steelers could focus primarily on fixing the OL without ignoring the Defense. They do get 7 picks, right?

As far as Chadman sees it, the Steelers need 2 decent OL, a NT & an ILB primarily.

It is possible that either Foote or Farrior sticks around to play ILB next season. It's also possible that Sylvester could be 'the answer' there. Chadman wouldn't use a #1 pick on ILB. In fact, ILB is the prime candidate to be the #4 or at best #3 pick for them.

The NT position could be more problematic as Hampton is visibly slowing down, and McLendon is no guarentee of filling that role. There are no other options, and the play of the NT directly effects the play of the ILB in a 3-4. NT is a priority, at least a #2 worthy pick, but quite possibly a #1 pick.

With Gilbert likely to move to LT, and Colon back next season (don't delude yourself, they won't cut the guy they just resigned long term because of an injury), the OT position is 'likely' sorted. Jon Scott would most probably be the #1 backup OT, and maybe Jamon Meredith gets a shot at the #4 OT spot? The OG position, however, is a mess with zero certainty for either LG or RG. Luckily, if there is an 'easy' position to fill on the OL- it's OG. Back-to-back OG's in rounds 2 & 3, or at least 2 picks out of the top 4 at OG, gives the Steelers a couple of reasonably talented (you would assume) players to compete with Legursky & Foster for the starting positions.

Starlifter
01-16-2012, 02:23 AM
sadly, I don't know if I should be pleased bouchette agrees with me - or embarrassed......



you guys need to accept the reality of the NFL according to Goodell. He doesn't WANT good defense. He is determined to legislate it out of existence. I suspect the superbowl this year will feature 2 of the worst defenses in the NFL. The old adage 'defense wins championships' is no longer true.

the rules say you need 11 guys on the field playing defense. common sense says as long as Roger is running the show - there's no need to waste a lot of resources on them. It won't matter - they are not ALLOWED to succeed.

every dollar wasted on defense is a lost opportunity for offense.

trust me. I hate it. this is not the NFL I grew up with and it's not the type of football I want to see. However, the last couple of years have proven to me that it's the NFL we currently have.

It's time to pay for 11 pro-bowlers on offense. and 10 no names plus troy on defense. 35 points a game average is what it's going to take. we're not there yet.

StarSpangledSteeler
01-16-2012, 03:40 AM
The Steelers could focus primarily on fixing the OL without ignoring the Defense. They do get 7 picks, right?

As far as Chadman sees it, the Steelers need 2 decent OL, a NT & an ILB primarily.

It is possible that either Foote or Farrior sticks around to play ILB next season. It's also possible that Sylvester could be 'the answer' there. Chadman wouldn't use a #1 pick on ILB. In fact, ILB is the prime candidate to be the #4 or at best #3 pick for them.

The NT position could be more problematic as Hampton is visibly slowing down, and McLendon is no guarentee of filling that role. There are no other options, and the play of the NT directly effects the play of the ILB in a 3-4. NT is a priority, at least a #2 worthy pick, but quite possibly a #1 pick.

With Gilbert likely to move to LT, and Colon back next season (don't delude yourself, they won't cut the guy they just resigned long term because of an injury), the OT position is 'likely' sorted. Jon Scott would most probably be the #1 backup OT, and maybe Jamon Meredith gets a shot at the #4 OT spot? The OG position, however, is a mess with zero certainty for either LG or RG. Luckily, if there is an 'easy' position to fill on the OL- it's OG. Back-to-back OG's in rounds 2 & 3, or at least 2 picks out of the top 4 at OG, gives the Steelers a couple of reasonably talented (you would assume) players to compete with Legursky & Foster for the starting positions.

Chadman,

I know it's early in the draft season (we don't even know which juniors will declare yet) but the mock draft in your sig looks extremely accurate at this stage. The funny part is I personally disagree with your mock. But I do recognize that it is very consistent with how the Steelers think.

Sugar
01-16-2012, 08:01 AM
It's funny to me that three of the four teams left are a lot closer in style to the Steelers. In fact, of the teams left standing, only NE would be characterized as an offensive juggernaut. Should we be shocked that most of those high-powered offenses petered out in the playoffs?

papillon
01-16-2012, 08:51 AM
I'm not sure about the approach, but one thing seems fairly evident (at least to me) after this past weekend's games is that the following formula works in a one and done tournament.

1) Ball Security
2) Short passing game and running the football control the clock
3) Play solid defense

Only the Patriots are left and still playing (of the one dimensional, offense only teams) and that is mainly because for some unknown reason the Steelers decided to alter their defensive style versus Tebow and he killed them. I would have liked the Steelers chances yesterday versus the Patriots and the sweep of the one dimensional teams could have been complete.

The 49ers and Giants outplayed the high flying offenses of the Saints and Packers and I couldn't have been happier. It seems that the obituary for defense may have been a bit premature. I like the Ravens next week versus the Patriots and the NFC title game should be a great game with an edge to the Giants because I think Manning is a better quarterback right now.

Ball security, run the ball (or short passing game) and defense, thankfully, it still works. Watching the 49ers and Giants was a thing of beauty this weekend. I wish the Steelers would have had a chance against the Patriots.

Pappy

Oviedo
01-16-2012, 09:02 AM
I'm not sure about the approach, but one thing seems fairly evident (at least to me) after this past weekend's games is that the following formula works in a one and done tournament.

1) Ball Security
2) Short passing game and running the football control the clock
3) Play solid defense

Only the Patriots are left and still playing (of the one dimensional, offense only teams) and that is mainly because for some unknown reason the Steelers decided to alter their defensive style versus Tebow and he killed them. I would have liked the Steelers chances yesterday versus the Patriots and the sweep of the one dimensional teams could have been complete.

The 49ers and Giants outplayed the high flying offenses of the Saints and Packers and I couldn't have been happier. It seems that the obituary for defense may have been a bit premature. I like the Ravens next week versus the Patriots and the NFC title game should be a great game with an edge to the Giants because I think Manning is a better quarterback right now.

Ball security, run the ball (or short passing game) and defense, thankfully, it still works. Watching the 49ers and Giants was a thing of beauty this weekend. I wish the Steelers would have had a chance against the Patriots.

Pappy

:Agree

Eich
01-16-2012, 09:41 AM
Roethlisberger won't like this, but he also needs to change his approach. He has been the best quarterback at extending plays and making plays when he does. However, wouldn't it be nice if he could just complete the pass without all the drama? You know, with a quick release to one of those quick and speedy young receivers who can then do their thing after the catch?


Like he did effectively in the NE Game,iirc ??? Why didn't we see that anymore? Not in the game plan? Stubborn? Vanity? Or what?

I agree. That NE Game was a thing of beauty: Offense & Defense. Who threw out those game plans? I have to wonder if we would have used them again if we had a rematch with the cheaters.

SanAntonioSteelerFan
01-16-2012, 10:26 AM
Phillyesq., can you help me sue Bouchette for plagiarizing from me? At least I had the decency to give Starlifter credit!


It's not even football, it's just common sense.

If you've allocated a huge amount of resources to acquire a strategic asset, the only reasonable secondary strategy is one that makes sure enough of your other resources are allocated in support of that asset, to allow it to succeed. Thus is achievement of the organization's goals most effectively realized.

Doing otherwise is foolish.

Organization: Steelers. Goal: Superbowl. Resources: $$. And, duh, strategic asset: Ben.

Ben is the man. The only right thing to do is put things in place to help him succeed. FIRST step, at a MINIMUM, we need to protect him in the pocket. Many of us PREDICTED that the SB run this year would end early because of O-line associated injury to Ben. Is it so crazy to say, OK, THAT didn't work out ... let's see what happens when our franchise QB has more than a 3rd string O-line? How many of our O-line players this year would even have PLAYED on one of the other playoff teams squads, much less STARTED?

And it needs to be quick ... what are the Vegas odds that Ben doesn't last next season due to injury? The season after that? I'm thinking doing this through the draft might not even be enough, in terms of Ben's shelf life. Can we go out and buy him an O-line? Not the Steeler way to develop a team with high $$ free agents? I'd propose it just might be. Where does it say the Steeler way HAS to be "controlling the game on the ground", or "suffocating defense", or any of the other things we've become so comfortable saying? The Steeler way, after all and bottom line, is only one thing - winning. Sometimes nostalgic attachment to specific strategies we've used to achieve that in the past can be counterproductive.

As Starlifter said (best post I've read in a while!) - forget throwing $$ at defense ... under Goodell's legal defense-oriented long term plan for rules changes, football scores will approach basketball's, and defenses will inevitably become laughably irrelevant. Heck, we don't even have to wait to see that happen - THIS year's 31st and 32nd ranked defenses in the NFL aren't doing too badly ...

Oh, and I agree with everything I say!

Signed,

SASF (Send Ariens to San Francisco)

SanAntonioSteelerFan
01-16-2012, 10:32 AM
Oh, and to take the OPPOSITE viewpoint - sounds like it was a LeBeau-style defence that won the game for the Giants against the Packers yesterday - keeping everything in front of you, allowing nothing deep.

Rodgah's longest pass was 21 yards yesterday, and his rushing average was almost equal to his passing average (9.4 rushing average vs 10.2 ypa).

So what's the take home message? Defense is irrelevant?

Or LeBeau-style defenses wins championships*?

* (With the right personnel :HeadBanger )

Oviedo
01-16-2012, 10:40 AM
Oh, and to take the OPPOSITE viewpoint - sounds like it was a LeBeau-style defence that won the game for the Giants against the Packers yesterday - keeping everything in front of you, allowing nothing deep.

Rodgah's longest pass was 21 yards yesterday, and his rushing average was almost equal to his passing average (9.4 rushing average vs 10.2 ypa).

So what's the take home message? Defense is irrelevant?

Or LeBeau-style defenses wins championships*?

* (With the right personnel :HeadBanger )


Packer fumbles and dropped passes lost the game for them not the Giants keeping people in front of them. It was greatly aided by tremendous pressure on Rodgers by the Giants four man DL. They rushed a minimum of four every play and didn't have three DL trying to beat five OL like we did way too many times this season. Pass rush by guys dedicated to rush the passer is the key.

Keyplay1
01-16-2012, 12:14 PM
[quote="drprwnap"]naah.... let's keep looking for the best ILB in the draft

Exactly! Don't even for a second think that Ed Bouchette even believes what he said.

feltdizz
01-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Oh, and to take the OPPOSITE viewpoint - sounds like it was a LeBeau-style defence that won the game for the Giants against the Packers yesterday - keeping everything in front of you, allowing nothing deep.

Rodgah's longest pass was 21 yards yesterday, and his rushing average was almost equal to his passing average (9.4 rushing average vs 10.2 ypa).

So what's the take home message? Defense is irrelevant?

Or LeBeau-style defenses wins championships*?

* (With the right personnel :HeadBanger )

it would've helped if we weren't down to 3 DL's...

If we played our brand of D we would've had a shot against the Pats.

feltdizz
01-16-2012, 12:22 PM
Oh, and to take the OPPOSITE viewpoint - sounds like it was a LeBeau-style defence that won the game for the Giants against the Packers yesterday - keeping everything in front of you, allowing nothing deep.

Rodgah's longest pass was 21 yards yesterday, and his rushing average was almost equal to his passing average (9.4 rushing average vs 10.2 ypa).

So what's the take home message? Defense is irrelevant?

Or LeBeau-style defenses wins championships*?

* (With the right personnel :HeadBanger )


Packer fumbles and dropped passes lost the game for them not the Giants keeping people in front of them. It was greatly aided by tremendous pressure on Rodgers by the Giants four man DL. They rushed a minimum of four every play and didn't have three DL trying to beat five OL like we did way too many times this season. Pass rush by guys dedicated to rush the passer is the key.

Packers were fumbling because of the Giants D....

Pack WR's dropped passes in the SB too... maybe Pack WR's aren't that hot in big games.

Dee Dub
01-16-2012, 12:32 PM
How funny. After the Giants win the Super Bowl everyone will be saying how defenses win championships.

Fans and the media are so fickle. :roll:

SanAntonioSteelerFan
01-16-2012, 12:43 PM
How funny. After the Giants win the Super Bowl everyone will be saying how defenses win championships.

Fans and the media are so fickle. :roll:

I am NOT fickle!!!

Well, maybe I am. A little bit.

No, wait - I am definitely NOT. Definitely!!

NorthCoast
01-16-2012, 01:27 PM
It's funny to me that three of the four teams left are a lot closer in style to the Steelers. In fact, of the teams left standing, only NE would be characterized as an offensive juggernaut. Should we be shocked that most of those high-powered offenses petered out in the playoffs?

I thought this thread was going to be about a defensive philosophy change. Did you watch the Giants manhandle GB? They rushed using 4 DEs (and they had 3 sets of them) on nearly every play and put a ton of heat on Rodgers. Quarterbacks today do not like getting it, when they do, their game completely changes.
For all the rule changes in favor of the offense (and even some pathetic calls against defenses) it just confirms the adage that a strong defense wins championships. This, despite Goodell's best effort.

Oviedo
01-16-2012, 02:05 PM
It's funny to me that three of the four teams left are a lot closer in style to the Steelers. In fact, of the teams left standing, only NE would be characterized as an offensive juggernaut. Should we be shocked that most of those high-powered offenses petered out in the playoffs?

I thought this thread was going to be about a defensive philosophy change. Did you watch the Giants manhandle GB? They rushed using 4 DEs (and they had 3 sets of them) on nearly every play and put a ton of heat on Rodgers. Quarterbacks today do not like getting it, when they do, their game completely changes.
For all the rule changes in favor of the offense (and even some pathetic calls against defenses) it just confirms the adage that a strong defense wins championships. This, despite Goodell's best effort.


...or confirms that a 4-3 defense is more effective against these types of high powered offense :stirpot

Dee Dub
01-16-2012, 02:50 PM
3 of the final 4 teams run the football and have above average defenses. Hmmmmmmmmm? Just when you think the media has you convinced the game is changing.....huh!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

feltdizz
01-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Well, most of the board was screaming for more weapons on O to keep up with these high powered offenses....

12-4 is 12-4 and it doesn't matter how much you beat your opponents by.... this isn't college and margin of victory doesn't help your ranking in the playoffs.

Chadman
01-16-2012, 06:33 PM
It's funny to me that three of the four teams left are a lot closer in style to the Steelers. In fact, of the teams left standing, only NE would be characterized as an offensive juggernaut. Should we be shocked that most of those high-powered offenses petered out in the playoffs?

I thought this thread was going to be about a defensive philosophy change. Did you watch the Giants manhandle GB? They rushed using 4 DEs (and they had 3 sets of them) on nearly every play and put a ton of heat on Rodgers. Quarterbacks today do not like getting it, when they do, their game completely changes.
For all the rule changes in favor of the offense (and even some pathetic calls against defenses) it just confirms the adage that a strong defense wins championships. This, despite Goodell's best effort.


...or confirms that a 4-3 defense is more effective against these types of high powered offense :stirpot

49ers beat the Saints with a 3-4....

:stirpot

MeetJoeGreene
01-16-2012, 06:34 PM
The Steelers could focus primarily on fixing the OL without ignoring the Defense. They do get 7 picks, right?

As far as Chadman sees it, the Steelers need 2 decent OL, a NT & an ILB primarily.

It is possible that either Foote or Farrior sticks around to play ILB next season. It's also possible that Sylvester could be 'the answer' there. Chadman wouldn't use a #1 pick on ILB. In fact, ILB is the prime candidate to be the #4 or at best #3 pick for them.

The NT position could be more problematic as Hampton is visibly slowing down, and McLendon is no guarentee of filling that role. There are no other options, and the play of the NT directly effects the play of the ILB in a 3-4. NT is a priority, at least a #2 worthy pick, but quite possibly a #1 pick.

With Gilbert likely to move to LT, and Colon back next season (don't delude yourself, they won't cut the guy they just resigned long term because of an injury), the OT position is 'likely' sorted. Jon Scott would most probably be the #1 backup OT, and maybe Jamon Meredith gets a shot at the #4 OT spot? The OG position, however, is a mess with zero certainty for either LG or RG. Luckily, if there is an 'easy' position to fill on the OL- it's OG. Back-to-back OG's in rounds 2 & 3, or at least 2 picks out of the top 4 at OG, gives the Steelers a couple of reasonably talented (you would assume) players to compete with Legursky & Foster for the starting positions.

Now that chadman can focus on things other than MNFE, he is making a lot of sense. I agree with the logic and thinking behind this post.

Dee Dub
01-16-2012, 07:07 PM
The Steelers could focus primarily on fixing the OL without ignoring the Defense. They do get 7 picks, right?

As far as Chadman sees it, the Steelers need 2 decent OL, a NT & an ILB primarily.

It is possible that either Foote or Farrior sticks around to play ILB next season. It's also possible that Sylvester could be 'the answer' there. Chadman wouldn't use a #1 pick on ILB. In fact, ILB is the prime candidate to be the #4 or at best #3 pick for them.

The NT position could be more problematic as Hampton is visibly slowing down, and McLendon is no guarentee of filling that role. There are no other options, and the play of the NT directly effects the play of the ILB in a 3-4. NT is a priority, at least a #2 worthy pick, but quite possibly a #1 pick.

With Gilbert likely to move to LT, and Colon back next season (don't delude yourself, they won't cut the guy they just resigned long term because of an injury), the OT position is 'likely' sorted. Jon Scott would most probably be the #1 backup OT, and maybe Jamon Meredith gets a shot at the #4 OT spot? The OG position, however, is a mess with zero certainty for either LG or RG. Luckily, if there is an 'easy' position to fill on the OL- it's OG. Back-to-back OG's in rounds 2 & 3, or at least 2 picks out of the top 4 at OG, gives the Steelers a couple of reasonably talented (you would assume) players to compete with Legursky & Foster for the starting positions.

Now that chadman can focus on things other than MNFE, he is making a lot of sense. I agree with the logic and thinking behind this post.

I dont think Chadman's past is realistic. He acts as if the Steelers are going to fill all these holes in one draft. Or that all picks are going to pan out. What the Steelers need more than anything is at least one immediate impact player on either side of the ball. And that is not an easy thing to do in a draft especially at number 24. It can be done but not with the approach that certain positions need to be filled. Take best player on the board at a position of need.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-16-2012, 08:12 PM
The Steelers could focus primarily on fixing the OL without ignoring the Defense. They do get 7 picks, right?

As far as Chadman sees it, the Steelers need 2 decent OL, a NT & an ILB primarily.

It is possible that either Foote or Farrior sticks around to play ILB next season. It's also possible that Sylvester could be 'the answer' there. Chadman wouldn't use a #1 pick on ILB. In fact, ILB is the prime candidate to be the #4 or at best #3 pick for them.

The NT position could be more problematic as Hampton is visibly slowing down, and McLendon is no guarentee of filling that role. There are no other options, and the play of the NT directly effects the play of the ILB in a 3-4. NT is a priority, at least a #2 worthy pick, but quite possibly a #1 pick.

With Gilbert likely to move to LT, and Colon back next season (don't delude yourself, they won't cut the guy they just resigned long term because of an injury), the OT position is 'likely' sorted. Jon Scott would most probably be the #1 backup OT, and maybe Jamon Meredith gets a shot at the #4 OT spot? The OG position, however, is a mess with zero certainty for either LG or RG. Luckily, if there is an 'easy' position to fill on the OL- it's OG. Back-to-back OG's in rounds 2 & 3, or at least 2 picks out of the top 4 at OG, gives the Steelers a couple of reasonably talented (you would assume) players to compete with Legursky & Foster for the starting positions.

Now that chadman can focus on things other than MNFE, he is making a lot of sense. I agree with the logic and thinking behind this post.

I dont think Chadman's past is realistic. He acts as if the Steelers are going to fill all these holes in one draft. Or that all picks are going to pan out. What the Steelers need more than anything is at least one immediate impact player on either side of the ball. And that is not an easy thing to do in a draft especially at number 24. It can be done but not with the approach that certain positions need to be filled. Take best player on the board at a position of need.

And go get a proven OL player in free agency as well.

hawaiiansteel
01-19-2012, 07:59 PM
maybe concentrating their efforts on the OL is in the Steelers' future?


Limiting sacks tops on 2012 season agenda for Steelers

By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, January 18, 2012


Art Rooney II said he'd like the Steelers to become more consistent on offense and for them to cut down on sacks.

The Steelers president did not call for quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who frequently holds onto the ball to extend plays, to make significant changes to his style of play.

"He may need to tweak it a little bit, but Ben is Ben and you wouldn't want to convince him that he's got to completely change his game because a lot of what he does is the reasons he's successful," Rooney said. "The other side of the coin is he is turning 30 (in March), and we do need him to stay healthy."

Roethlisberger was sacked 40 times this season. When asked if keeping him more upright in 2012 is tied to upgrading the offensive line, Rooney said, "For the most part, I would say we feel like we have the people in the building that can do the job. That's not to say that we won't try to get better as we prepare for the offseason, and the draft is always something that we look at as an opportunity to get better."

Rooney said he doesn't expect the Steelers to make any big-name signings during free agency, which starts at 4 p.m. March 13.

ADDING SEATS

Expansion is coming to Heinz Field, though it won't happen until after the 2012 season.

Rooney said the Steelers will add about 3,000 seats to the open end of the stadium.

Extra seats had been installed there temporarily for the Winter Classic, which was played Jan. 1, 2011. Rooney said plans to add seats in that area permanently were put on hold last year because of the NFL lockout.

"The uncertainty of the lockout is really what pushed us into next year, because we sort of had to pull the trigger on the project last June," Rooney said.

EXTRA POINTS

Look for the Steelers to re-sign quarterbacks Byron Leftwich and Charlie Batch. Both, along with Dennis Dixon, are unrestricted free agents. "We like the quarterbacks we have on our roster, and we're hopeful to sign at least some of them," Rooney said. ... The Steelers are waiting to see if defensive end Brett Keisel needs to have groin surgery. ... Wide receiver Tyler Grisham signed a futures contract with the Denver Broncos. Grisham appeared in four games for the Steelers in 2009, catching one pass for 14 yards. He has exhausted his practice-squad eligibility.

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