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hawaiiansteel
01-15-2012, 09:26 PM
Keith Butler: Still Playing the Waiting Game with the Steelers

AUTHOR: Dom
Jan 14, 2012

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Butler will be returning for his 10th season as the Steelers' LB Coach

As I discussed in my last post, legendary Defensive Coordinator D!ck LeBeau will be returning to the Steel City in 2012. In the spirit of continuity, the move itself makes sense.

Nevertheless, one of the first things which popped into my head when I read that LeBeau would be back in 2012 was the following: Will longtime Linebackers Coach & “D-Coordinator in Waiting” Keith Butler stay with the organization long enough to realize his chance to assume the Defensive Coordinator role? Thus, I thought it would be nice to discuss Keith Butler’s career with the Steelers up to this point, why he is an ideal candidate for the job, and his current situation “playing the Waiting Game.”

Keith Butler: A Fantastic Resume (2003-Present):

If you were to list the Top 3 LB Coaches in the League right now, you’d be hard pressed to name two, if not one, that has done a better job than Keith Butler during his 9 seasons with the Steelers.

Butler has helped to develop and hone the skills of some of the N.F.L.’s most feared pass-rushers and overall LB’s during his tenure with the Steelers. Pro Bowl OLB’s such as Joey Porter and LaMarr Woodley have developed into multiple 10.0+ Sack per season guys. A former UDFA, OLB James Harrison won the D.P.O.Y. in 2008 and has terrorized opposing QB’s and opponents in general since assuming Porter’s old role in 2007.

Under Butler’s tutelage, late-round picks such as OLB Clark Haggans and ILB Larry Foote have enjoyed a measure of success while realizing their potential with hard work and their overall talent. Lawrence Timmons made the switch from OLB at Florida State to ILB with the Steelers, and has developed into one of the League’s most complete Linebackers since making the switch in 2008. Even then-veteran ILB James Farrior enjoyed his best seasons under Butler’s watch and made both of his Pro Bowls during that time.

Butler isn’t done however, and now OLB’s Jason Worilds and Chris Carter, along with ILB Stevenson Sylvester will assume to be the next group of “youngsters” ready to step up with Butler teaching them the “ins and outs” of their respective positions along the way.

The Steelers have always had a tradition of featuring some of the best overall Linebackers on their teams. And with Butler in charge, the franchise hasn’t missed a step. Whether they are 1st and 2nd Round studs, Middle Round (3-6) diamonds in the rough, or overlooked late bloomers (7-UDFA), Butler has illustrated a knack to get the most out of his guys and in turn establish himself as one of the best Linebackers Coaches in the League. This job by Butler hasn’t gone unnoticed, as teams not named the Steelers have showed keen interest in prying Butler away to head their Defenses.

Butler’s Job Offers/Declines:

As I have stated before, Butler’s fantastic work in Pittsburgh has put him on the radar of many teams in search of Defensive Coordinators during the past few years. Yet each and every job offer he has received or been in the running for, Butler has elected to stay with the Steelers and stood by their Front Office which has given him votes of confidence while he has played “The Waiting Game:”

During the 2009 offseason the Miami Dolphins were interested in offering their Defensive Coordinator job to Butler. A 3-4 team with some solid talent to work with, Butler eventually told Miami “No” when they asked him to run their Defense. The thought at the time was that Butler was going to be the Steelers’ future Defensive Coordinator when Dick LeBeau finally left. In fact, the rumor was that the Steelers’ Front Office added a clause in his contract that he would be the “D-Coordinator in Waiting” to keep him on the staff.

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Butler (left) has been on Whiz's radar (right) since he came to Arizona in 2007

While Miami tried to get Butler only once, the Arizona Cardinals have been barking up the “Butler Tree” for years. With former Steelers coaches Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm in Arizona, Butler’s services have long been sought after by the pair.

Thankfully for the Steelers, the organization has stood firm with regards to keeping Butler in Pittsburgh. When the 2010 offseason rolled around, Pittsburgh did not allow the Cardinals to even interview Butler regarding their vacant D-Coordinator position, and apparently it had something to do with his “D-Coordinator in Waiting” status according to the Arizona Republic’s Kent Somers. And as of right now, it appears that all that stands between Butler and the Defensive Coordinator job is D!ck LeBeau.

Conclusion:

Jobs in the N.F.L. are never “guaranteed,” and after a number of “meltdowns” and “dumpster fire” performances in the last couple of years due to strategy and other factors, the D-Coordinator job appears to be LeBeau’s for as long as he wants it.

Butler in my opinion though deserves his chance to take the reins in the near future. He has waited patiently for his opportunity, turned down others, and the franchise itself has apparently given him a “thumbs up” with his “D-Coordinator in Waiting” tag.

Thus, I will look at this situation with LeBeau staying for 2012 from a “glass half-full” perspective, and simply be confident that LeBeau will not overstay his welcome and the well-credentialed Butler will eventually and take over in 2013 or 2014. Butler knows the organization, can continue to work with the personnel already on the roster while in turn grooming more talent for years to come, and has a vote of confidence from the Front Office based on their supposed commitment to him. Yet most importantly, you’ve gotta figure that if the guy has waited this long, he might be inclined to play “The Waiting Game” just a bit longer.

Now it’s time to hear your thoughts readers: Do you think LeBeau should bow out gracefully and let Butler take over? Should Butler even be the next Defensive Coordinator? Who instead should get the job after LeBeau?

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Steelers>NFL
01-15-2012, 09:56 PM
Maybe it is best he moves on. Especially if a half decent franchise offers him DC position.

Dresden
01-15-2012, 10:03 PM
If Butler moves on,...so be it. Carnell is well versed in Coach Lebeau's system. We should concern ourselves with bringing in the proper personnel.

Oviedo
01-16-2012, 08:59 AM
If we would lose a "hot commodity" coach like Butler just to let the "legend" leave on his terms that would be a huge mistake. The NFL is about now and the future, not the past. Look at how coaches step in and fail and when you have a potentially good one you need to keep them.

When you have multiple teams beating down the door to hire Carnell Lake like they are Butler then I'll consider him equal to Butler. Lake wasn't even working in the NFL until this past season so it is a little early to annoint him ready to be a DC.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-16-2012, 12:01 PM
Lebeau seems to be on the Joe Paterno tract where they will have to either find him involved in some conspiracy or drag his dead corpse off the sideline.

BradshawsHairdresser
01-16-2012, 12:35 PM
Lebeau seems to be on the Joe Paterno tract where they will have to either find him involved in some conspiracy or drag his dead corpse off the sideline.
$$$$

Butler might want to retire before LeBeau will.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-16-2012, 01:05 PM
Wonder if anyone will bring Butler in for a visit this offseason.

Oviedo
01-16-2012, 01:33 PM
Lebeau seems to be on the Joe Paterno tract where they will have to either find him involved in some conspiracy or drag his dead corpse off the sideline.
$$$$

Butler might want to retire before LeBeau will.


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And complacency will be the order of the day on defense because we dare not even discuss let alone question what is done.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-16-2012, 01:48 PM
I brought this up in another thread and maybe it is just coincidence.....but it still seems odd.....

Tomlin + Lebeau + Ray Horton = Crappy secondary almost every season, rookies have no hope of contributing on secondary, even all world players like Troy don't do anything.

Tomlin + Lebeau + Carnell Lake = Top pass defense in league & rookies contribute and young DB's grow like William Gay. Gay had a real good season.

So, is this all just a coincidence and THESE rookies were different and caught on quick? Did it just click for Gay this year and Lake didn't really change him? Or does Lebeau not really do much 'coaching' of guys and just comes up with the gameplan and the coaches tell the players how to play in that gameplan?

You would just think that with Tomlin being HC and a former DB coach and DC, and Lebeau being a HOF that played DB and is a DC, that our secondary would be pretty awesome before Lake ever got here but wasn't the case. Makes me wonder who really does what down there.

NorthCoast
01-17-2012, 08:45 PM
WHY OH WHY CAN'T THESE OFFERS BE COMING TO BRUCE ARIANS???!!!!! Isn't he an equal talent at OC?! I mean, he has to practice against the best defense in the NFL every week, so that should really up his game.

steelblood
01-18-2012, 10:50 AM
I brought this up in another thread and maybe it is just coincidence.....but it still seems odd.....

Tomlin + Lebeau + Ray Horton = Crappy secondary almost every season, rookies have no hope of contributing on secondary, even all world players like Troy don't do anything.

Tomlin + Lebeau + Carnell Lake = Top pass defense in league & rookies contribute and young DB's grow like William Gay. Gay had a real good season.

So, is this all just a coincidence and THESE rookies were different and caught on quick? Did it just click for Gay this year and Lake didn't really change him? Or does Lebeau not really do much 'coaching' of guys and just comes up with the gameplan and the coaches tell the players how to play in that gameplan?

You would just think that with Tomlin being HC and a former DB coach and DC, and Lebeau being a HOF that played DB and is a DC, that our secondary would be pretty awesome before Lake ever got here but wasn't the case. Makes me wonder who really does what down there.

I totally agree. I took some heat for celebrating when the Cards took Ray Horton away, but man that dude added very little. Thanks Ken.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-18-2012, 11:09 AM
I brought this up in another thread and maybe it is just coincidence.....but it still seems odd.....

Tomlin + Lebeau + Ray Horton = Crappy secondary almost every season, rookies have no hope of contributing on secondary, even all world players like Troy don't do anything.

Tomlin + Lebeau + Carnell Lake = Top pass defense in league & rookies contribute and young DB's grow like William Gay. Gay had a real good season.

So, is this all just a coincidence and THESE rookies were different and caught on quick? Did it just click for Gay this year and Lake didn't really change him? Or does Lebeau not really do much 'coaching' of guys and just comes up with the gameplan and the coaches tell the players how to play in that gameplan?

You would just think that with Tomlin being HC and a former DB coach and DC, and Lebeau being a HOF that played DB and is a DC, that our secondary would be pretty awesome before Lake ever got here but wasn't the case. Makes me wonder who really does what down there.

I totally agree. I took some heat for celebrating when the Cards took Ray Horton away, but man that dude added very little. Thanks Ken.

It really is hard to rationalize some things that go on with the Steelers.

NWNewell
01-18-2012, 01:24 PM
If we would lose a "hot commodity" coach like Butler just to let the "legend" leave on his terms that would be a huge mistake. The NFL is about now and the future, not the past. Look at how coaches step in and fail and when you have a potentially good one you need to keep them.

When you have multiple teams beating down the door to hire Carnell Lake like they are Butler then I'll consider him equal to Butler. Lake wasn't even working in the NFL until this past season so it is a little early to annoint him ready to be a DC.

Give me a break. You say the lean is about now, not the past.

They are not retaining DL as the OC just to let a "legend" leave on his own terms.

They've got a known commodity that is still producing fantastic results. Retaining DL for as long as he wants to stay and produce quality defenses IS what is best for NOW and the future.

I know you and others whine about the 3-4 ,or corner cushions, or what every other horse you are fond of beating. But you can't argue with the results.

Once again (with "old" defensive personnel), they posted the #1 scoring and overall defense.

Sure there are times when a game plan on a given Sunday gets exposed. Sometimes it is the fault of player execution, and ,yes, sometimes it is DL's fault. But ALL defenses and DC's get exposed now and again. The league is just too good.

But no other defense or DC has been better or more consistent than the Steelers and DL.

NWNewell
01-18-2012, 01:33 PM
I brought this up in another thread and maybe it is just coincidence.....but it still seems odd.....

Tomlin + Lebeau + Ray Horton = Crappy secondary almost every season, rookies have no hope of contributing on secondary, even all world players like Troy don't do anything.

Tomlin + Lebeau + Carnell Lake = Top pass defense in league & rookies contribute and young DB's grow like William Gay. Gay had a real good season.

So, is this all just a coincidence and THESE rookies were different and caught on quick? Did it just click for Gay this year and Lake didn't really change him? Or does Lebeau not really do much 'coaching' of guys and just comes up with the gameplan and the coaches tell the players how to play in that gameplan?

You would just think that with Tomlin being HC and a former DB coach and DC, and Lebeau being a HOF that played DB and is a DC, that our secondary would be pretty awesome before Lake ever got here but wasn't the case. Makes me wonder who really does what down there.

I always liked Carnell Lake and am happy is the Steeler's secondary coach. I give him credit for helping turn around this secondary this year.

But I don't believe he was the secondary coach in '08 (when the Steeler's pass defense was #1), or in '07 (when the Steeler's pass defense was #3). However Tomlin and DL were the HC & DC. So, maybe Tomlin and/or DL still have just a little bit of a hand in how the secondary performed this year as well. Just maybe.

williar
01-18-2012, 02:06 PM
Lebeau seems to be on the Joe Paterno tract where they will have to either find him involved in some conspiracy or drag his dead corpse off the sideline.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Mister Pittsburgh
01-18-2012, 02:13 PM
I brought this up in another thread and maybe it is just coincidence.....but it still seems odd.....

Tomlin + Lebeau + Ray Horton = Crappy secondary almost every season, rookies have no hope of contributing on secondary, even all world players like Troy don't do anything.

Tomlin + Lebeau + Carnell Lake = Top pass defense in league & rookies contribute and young DB's grow like William Gay. Gay had a real good season.

So, is this all just a coincidence and THESE rookies were different and caught on quick? Did it just click for Gay this year and Lake didn't really change him? Or does Lebeau not really do much 'coaching' of guys and just comes up with the gameplan and the coaches tell the players how to play in that gameplan?

You would just think that with Tomlin being HC and a former DB coach and DC, and Lebeau being a HOF that played DB and is a DC, that our secondary would be pretty awesome before Lake ever got here but wasn't the case. Makes me wonder who really does what down there.

I always liked Carnell Lake and am happy is the Steeler's secondary coach. I give him credit for helping turn around this secondary this year.

But I don't believe he was the secondary coach in '08 (when the Steeler's pass defense was #1), or in '07 (when the Steeler's pass defense was #3). However Tomlin and DL were the HC & DC. So, maybe Tomlin and/or DL still have just a little bit of a hand in how the secondary performed this year as well. Just maybe.

I look more at TD's allowed, just as I look at TD's scored to evaluate our offense, cause ultimately that is all that matters. In 07 we were tied for 15th in TD's allowed by the pass. In 08, we were tied for 3rd. I think a lot of the success there was tied to the guys up front getting it done with the pass rush where this season we didn't have a pass rush but still had a solid secondary.

2007: 13th in Sacks - 15th in TD's given up
2008: 2nd in Sacks - 2nd in TD's given up
2011: 17th in Sacks - 2nd in TD's given up

Typically a correlation but not this year.....

williar
01-18-2012, 02:25 PM
Lebeau and his over complicated defense needs a makeover. I am not a fan of his system anymore. I'm tired of the paper champion defense... On the field this defense is always chasing, passive, no pressure, no turnovers and getting lit up by just about every quarterback we play.

In all sincerity, can someone please explain to me how defenses who are so new to running the 3/4 specifically Houston and the 49ers look so dominant with a plethora of young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.) have such an impact as rookies and 1st and 2nd year contributors. Whereas we've been in this Lebeau mastered system forever with seasoned veterans and still looked suspect.

Why is it necessary for Lebeau system to be so complicated and tough for young players to learn. Seems like a more of a disservice.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-18-2012, 03:13 PM
Lebeau and his over complicated defense needs a makeover. I am not a fan of his system anymore. I'm tired of the paper champion defense... On the field this defense is always chasing, passive, no pressure, no turnovers and getting lit up by just about every quarterback we play.

In all sincerity, can someone please explain to me how defenses who are so new to running the 3/4 specifically Houston and the 49ers look so dominant with a plethora of young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.) have such an impact as rookies and 1st and 2nd year contributors. Whereas we've been in this Lebeau mastered system forever with seasoned veterans and still looked suspect.

Why is it necessary for Lebeau system to be so complicated and tough for young players to learn. Seems like a more of a disservice.

I don't really buy that it is so hard to learn...I think he rides with his vets cause he is too loyal.

Oviedo
01-18-2012, 04:28 PM
Lebeau and his over complicated defense needs a makeover. I am not a fan of his system anymore. I'm tired of the paper champion defense... On the field this defense is always chasing, passive, no pressure, no turnovers and getting lit up by just about every quarterback we play.

In all sincerity, can someone please explain to me how defenses who are so new to running the 3/4 specifically Houston and the 49ers look so dominant with a plethora of young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.) have such an impact as rookies and 1st and 2nd year contributors. Whereas we've been in this Lebeau mastered system forever with seasoned veterans and still looked suspect.

Why is it necessary for Lebeau system to be so complicated and tough for young players to learn. Seems like a more of a disservice.

I don't really buy that it is so hard to learn...I think he rides with his vets cause he is too loyal.


I think it is a combination of both!!! So complex we fool ourseleves and not enough trust in young guys so he defaults to the older ones.

ikestops85
01-18-2012, 05:19 PM
Lebeau and his over complicated defense needs a makeover. I am not a fan of his system anymore. I'm tired of the paper champion defense... On the field this defense is always chasing, passive, no pressure, no turnovers and getting lit up by just about every quarterback we play.

In all sincerity, can someone please explain to me how defenses who are so new to running the 3/4 specifically Houston and the 49ers look so dominant with a plethora of young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.) have such an impact as rookies and 1st and 2nd year contributors. Whereas we've been in this Lebeau mastered system forever with seasoned veterans and still looked suspect.

Why is it necessary for Lebeau system to be so complicated and tough for young players to learn. Seems like a more of a disservice.

Wow ... I think I saw this post last year. I take that back ... I KNOW I saw this post last year. Just replace Houston and the 49ers with the Packers and whoever else was the flavor of the year.

I mean how could Capers install a 3-4 defense and start rookies and they are great while our rookies vegetate on the bench because our D is too complicated ... uh, wait a minute. They pretty much sucked this year.

Why is it so hard to recognize that DL provides us with a top notch defense year after year. NOBODY, and I repeat, NOBODY in the league today has put a defense on the field year after year like LeBeau has. I laugh when I hear "we get lit up by just about every QB we play". Sure, in this pass happy, offense oriented league we do get burned sometimes. But once again, please name me the teams that have been consistently better.

Hell, just name the teams that have been consistently better than the Steelers as a whole. Any team you name I guarantee has a better offense then we do. Not a better defense.

We were last in the AFC this year in turnover differential with a -13. Does anybody think it was the offense that was responsible for the 12-4 record with that kind of differential? You people are spoiled beyond belief. All I hear is LeBeau doesn't play rookies because his defense is too complicated ... well boo f'in hoo! He puts one of the most competitive defenses on the field year after year. Some of you are real :Hater s

williar
01-18-2012, 05:22 PM
What is looks like is, you have a passive defense that is always reacting, slow to pursuit and thinking instead of playing instinctively and agressively.

Example, you have Stevenson Sylvester who looks like a guy with some potential, who looks like he has the tools to play the position effectively. However, when he's on the field he looks like a guy who is paralyzed with information and can't function. Same with Timmons, he looks like he's thinking too much or always out of position. Then you have a guy like Novorro Bowman who plays like, see the ball carrier-go knock the crap out of ball carrier.

williar
01-18-2012, 05:26 PM
Lebeau and his over complicated defense needs a makeover. I am not a fan of his system anymore. I'm tired of the paper champion defense... On the field this defense is always chasing, passive, no pressure, no turnovers and getting lit up by just about every quarterback we play.

In all sincerity, can someone please explain to me how defenses who are so new to running the 3/4 specifically Houston and the 49ers look so dominant with a plethora of young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.) have such an impact as rookies and 1st and 2nd year contributors. Whereas we've been in this Lebeau mastered system forever with seasoned veterans and still looked suspect.

Why is it necessary for Lebeau system to be so complicated and tough for young players to learn. Seems like a more of a disservice.

Say it however you will... The GB defense sure did look good picking us off and hitting us up for fumbles on root to victory while our defense was getting no pressure, making no plays while Rodgers lit us up en route to victory....

Wow ... I think I saw this post last year. I take that back ... I KNOW I saw this post last year. Just replace Houston and the 49ers with the Packers and whoever else was the flavor of the year.

I mean how could Capers install a 3-4 defense and start rookies and they are great while our rookies vegetate on the bench because our D is too complicated ... uh, wait a minute. They pretty much sucked this year.

Why is it so hard to recognize that DL provides us with a top notch defense year after year. NOBODY, and I repeat, NOBODY in the league today has put a defense on the field year after year like LeBeau has. I laugh when I hear "we get lit up by just about every QB we play". Sure, in this pass happy, offense oriented league we do get burned sometimes. But once again, please name me the teams that have been consistently better.

Hell, just name the teams that have been consistently better than the Steelers as a whole. Any team you name I guarantee has a better offense then we do. Not a better defense.

We were last in the AFC this year in turnover differential with a -13. Does anybody think it was the offense that was responsible for the 12-4 record with that kind of differential? You people are spoiled beyond belief. All I hear is LeBeau doesn't play rookies because his defense is too complicated ... well boo f'in hoo! He puts one of the most competitive defenses on the field year after year. Some of you are real :Hater s

williar
01-18-2012, 05:29 PM
Say it however you will... The GB defense sure did look good picking us off and hitting us up for fumbles on root to victory while our defense was getting no pressure, making no plays while Rodgers lit us up en route to victory....

ikestops85
01-18-2012, 05:52 PM
Say it however you will... The GB defense sure did look good picking us off and hitting us up for fumbles on root to victory while our defense was getting no pressure, making no plays while Rodgers lit us up en route to victory....

You mention 1 game ... what did that fabulous GB defense do this year? Oh, they were ranked 32nd in the league in defense giving up an average 22.4 points per game. Where were those interceptions and fumble recoveries this year? Why weren't they successful this year? It seems those former rookies didn't know the defense as well as some thought.

I guess the game has passed Capers bye. Maybe he should retire.

williar
01-18-2012, 05:59 PM
Say it however you will... The GB defense sure did look good picking us off and hitting us up for fumbles on root to victory while our defense was getting no pressure, making no plays while Rodgers lit us up en route to victory....

You mention 1 game ... what did that fabulous GB defense do this year? Oh, they were ranked 32nd in the league in defense giving up an average 22.4 points per game. Where were those interceptions and fumble recoveries this year? Why weren't they successful this year? It seems those former rookies didn't know the defense as well as some thought.

I guess the game has passed Capers bye. Maybe he should retire.

We're both sitting at home (GB-Pitt). How about that... The paper champion defense and the paper champion offense.

phillyesq
01-18-2012, 06:09 PM
young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.)

JJ Watt is a stud. If I could add any player to the Steelers defense right now, it might be him. I like Cameron Heyward, and think he could turn into a very good 3-4 DE, but he is no JJ Watt. Aldon Smith is an absolute monster. They were also both high draft picks.

At some point, there is something to be said for draft position and having an opportunity to draft premium players. The Steelers do an excellent job with where they pick, and probably have the best first round track record of any team in the last decade, but they don't always have the opportunity to add premium players.

williar
01-18-2012, 06:19 PM
young players (JJ Watt, Connor Barwin, Reed Brooks, Novorro Bowman, Aldon Smith etc.)

JJ Watt is a stud. If I could add any player to the Steelers defense right now, it might be him. I like Cameron Heyward, and think he could turn into a very good 3-4 DE, but he is no JJ Watt. Aldon Smith is an absolute monster. They were also both high draft picks.

At some point, there is something to be said for draft position and having an opportunity to draft premium players. The Steelers do an excellent job with where they pick, and probably have the best first round track record of any team in the last decade, but they don't always have the opportunity to add premium players.

:Agree Talent is the great equalizer.. I guess that's why the bad teams get higher picks, even though at times I have a problem conceding higher picks to the bad teams just because their bad. It just doesn't seem completely right...

Slapstick
01-19-2012, 12:26 PM
The draft order is one of the factors (the salary cap and revenue sharing being the others) that are intended to create competitive balance in the NFL...

If there was no potential for a surprise team or if playoff spots weren't in the balance during the final weeks of the season, the NFL wouldn't be half as interesting or entertaining as it is...