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hawaiiansteel
01-14-2012, 02:36 AM
BA Stays but Same Problem Remains: Steelers Canít Score

Posted on January 12, 2012


To all of you who are glad that Bruce Arians is likely staying with the Steelers, I would humbly like to submit the following question: Why canít this offense score points?

The Steelers are 19th in the league in total touchdowns with 36. Breaking that number down further we are 15th in the league with 13 rushing TDs and 13th with 21 receiving scores (then one each for special teams and defense Ė that defensive stat has the Steelers tied for second to last Ö but thatís another issue).

First off, I need to begin by saying that I am not a BA basher. I donít blame him for all the woes of this team, nor do I put every loss at his feet. There are plenty of reasons why the Steelers, as a team, underperformed this season, from injuries, to clock management issues, and, at times, just plain poor execution on both sides of the ball. But hereís what I want to discuss: the offense and scoring in particular.

Why do we consistently fail to put up points when our team has an elite QB, one of if not the best group of WRs in the league, an elite RB (and an excellent backup), and an average (when healthy) offensive line? Sanchez, Romo, Ryan, Fitzpatrick and Newton all have more passing touchdowns that Big Ben, but few (Editorís note: no one) would argue are better quarterbacks. This simply should not happen; none of these QBs have a better set of options for the pass.

Now many would say that our problem is poor offensive line play. But a quick look at Football Outsiders tells a slightly different story when it comes to pass protection. According to their stats, Pittsburghís O-line ranked 20th in pass pro. But Carolina (21st), Green Bay (23rd), and Arizona (28th) scored at least as many passing touchdowns as the Steelers (the Packers scored 51!) with worse performances from their offensive lines.

Another telling stat: Pittsburgh is 10th in the league in total passing yards this season, yet only 21st in scoring. The full list of teams with a better total scoring rank is a depressing read. These rankings tell a story every Steelers fan knows all too well, this team can move the ball between the 20s on almost any opponent but fails to finish drives. Whatís more, this team hasnít last broken the top ten in scoring since 2007 (9th), Ariansí first year as the offensive coordinator.

My argument is that given this team, with a franchise quarterback, outstanding receiving options including a solid tight end, and a very respectable set of running backs has continued to underwhelm. I have no suggestions for Ariansí replacement, nor am I saying fire him immediately. I just think we should look around and see what else is available.

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/a ... #more-6671 (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/arians-stays-steelers-cant-score/#more-6671)

Oviedo
01-14-2012, 07:06 AM
I'm not sure that anyone, other than Ben, is glad that Arians is returning. I think instead of blind hate some just see that Arians is operating with a major handicap in the OL that he has that lacks the consistency for this offense to ever get into a rhythm.

Arians has taken this offense as far as he can and he should have left after this season. But he hasn't so we hope for the best and prepare for the frustration. Colbert could be the savior of Arians' reputation and our sanity if he would just focus on getting together a good OL. Unfortunately we have so much money tied up in players on the defensive side of the ball that will be difficult to do with regards to the salary cap given we are already way over.

Steelerphile
01-14-2012, 08:15 AM
Even though I don't hate Arians as much as some people seem to do. The scoring is clearly a problem. Even though they are keeping Arians they can still spend the offseason studying this and trying to figure out how to be more effective. I would endorse sending Arians to offensive coordinator seminars or conferences if such exist and to brainstorm this. Nobody is too old to learn and Arians could add to his knowledge also.

papillon
01-14-2012, 08:19 AM
BA Stays but Same Problem Remains: Steelers Canít Score

Posted on January 12, 2012


To all of you who are glad that Bruce Arians is likely staying with the Steelers, I would humbly like to submit the following question: Why canít this offense score points?

The Steelers are 19th in the league in total touchdowns with 36. Breaking that number down further we are 15th in the league with 13 rushing TDs and 13th with 21 receiving scores (then one each for special teams and defense Ė that defensive stat has the Steelers tied for second to last Ö but thatís another issue).

First off, I need to begin by saying that I am not a BA basher. I donít blame him for all the woes of this team, nor do I put every loss at his feet. There are plenty of reasons why the Steelers, as a team, underperformed this season, from injuries, to clock management issues, and, at times, just plain poor execution on both sides of the ball. But hereís what I want to discuss: the offense and scoring in particular.

Why do we consistently fail to put up points when our team has an elite QB, one of if not the best group of WRs in the league, an elite RB (and an excellent backup), and an average (when healthy) offensive line? Sanchez, Romo, Ryan, Fitzpatrick and Newton all have more passing touchdowns that Big Ben, but few (Editorís note: no one) would argue are better quarterbacks. This simply should not happen; none of these QBs have a better set of options for the pass.

Now many would say that our problem is poor offensive line play. But a quick look at Football Outsiders tells a slightly different story when it comes to pass protection. According to their stats, Pittsburghís O-line ranked 20th in pass pro. But Carolina (21st), Green Bay (23rd), and Arizona (28th) scored at least as many passing touchdowns as the Steelers (the Packers scored 51!) with worse performances from their offensive lines.

Another telling stat: Pittsburgh is 10th in the league in total passing yards this season, yet only 21st in scoring. The full list of teams with a better total scoring rank is a depressing read. These rankings tell a story every Steelers fan knows all too well, this team can move the ball between the 20s on almost any opponent but fails to finish drives. Whatís more, this team hasnít last broken the top ten in scoring since 2007 (9th), Ariansí first year as the offensive coordinator.

My argument is that given this team, with a franchise quarterback, outstanding receiving options including a solid tight end, and a very respectable set of running backs has continued to underwhelm. I have no suggestions for Ariansí replacement, nor am I saying fire him immediately. I just think we should look around and see what else is available.

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/a ... #more-6671 (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/arians-stays-steelers-cant-score/#more-6671)

The highlighted part of this post is the fallacy that everyone makes when asking why Arians' offense can't score points. Ben is the only elite player on offense, the WRs are young and inexperienced and getting better, but they are not this unstoppable force. The running backs right now are average (potential doesn't translate to performance) and the TEs are slightly above average because of Heath (and, in today's NFL his blocking ability has little affect on a game). The o-line is at best average, I would say below average, the reasons not withstanding (injury, talent and no continuity).

Personally, I think Ben gets as much out of this group as possible. He also gets the least out of them as possible at times due to his erratic play. Look back at 2011 without the Steeler colored shades, Wallace fell off the planet after game 8, Mendenhall never was dominant, Heath had catches in the 1st quarter and then disappeared, the o-line isn't built to be good at run blocking or pass blocking, so, the Steelers get average o-line play and hope Ben can make something happen. Ben himself, would put the Steelers in a hole and then proceed to climb out (for the most part) and when he couldn't they lost.

The offense needs help on the interior line (specifically guards) and more consistent play from Ben and the WRs. The running backs need to step up to being above average NFL caliber backs. I'm not certain the players currently on the roster are the answer to the scoring problems of the Steelers.

Sanders and Brown may end up being the #1 and #2 receivers with Wallace being #3 and hopefully, Cotchery would like to give it another go as the #4. The offenses in the NFL with a tight end that is exclusively a pass receiver are being very successful, the Steelers need to probably try and develop or draft a weapon of this nature. Heath is a throw back and I love the way he plays and conducts himself, but I'm not certain he's the answer in today's NFL at tight end.

Ben is never going to be consistent because of the way he plays, so, the Steelers have to take the good with the bad and the good outweighs the bad by a long shot.

Steeler fans take a hard look at the talent and I believe you'll come to the same conclusion, that Arians while part of the problem, isn't the main problem or the only problem. He can stay or go as far as I'm concerned, but the players need to improve or the Steelers need to find more talented players before the offense will be as successful as many think it should.

Pappy

Slapstick
01-14-2012, 09:01 AM
It's hard to disagree with your assssment, except in the following area:

TE

Obviously, Heath's ability to block does, in fact, affect the game...after all, the Steelers did win 12 of them...

I'd have to go back and watch some games, but it would not surprise me to see that Heath was sent out on patterns in the 1st quarter until defenders figured out how to exploit the inconsistent o-line...then, he was held in to help block...

Nor would it surprise me if Ben, seemingly always looking for the big play, lost patience throughout the game and just quit looking for him as an option, holding the ball and waiting for the bomb to develop...how many times was Heath running free and Ben didn't see him? Maybe he didn't see him because he wasn't looking...

Steelhere10
01-14-2012, 10:29 AM
The scoring offense is more of a Ben problem instead of BA. IF our QB ever change his game and stop looking for the long ball every play OR become more accurate when the long ball is therethere, then the scoring would go up. BA is not great either but not more of the problem then Ben.

DukieBoy
01-14-2012, 01:06 PM
Saw this elsewhere ...

Under Arians the Steelers Average: 23 PPG, 46 Sacks Per Season, 53.4 in the Red Zone , and 3.3 Red Zone trips. All of these numbers are rank 12th or worse in each category

1. Steelers must score more Points: 20. 5 NFL RNK: 21

2. Steelers must reduce the number of Sacks Allowed: 42 Sacks NFL RNK: 23

3. Red Zone Efficiency: 51% NFL RNK: 18

4. Red Zone Attempts: 3.2 NFL RNK: 16

Starlifter
01-14-2012, 01:07 PM
I was going to rant again about BA - but why type the same thing over and over. much easier to cut and paste from the beginning of the season.

from Aug:

we have a lot of weapons on offense. 'ol BA is gonna really take a shellacking if they fail to put up beaucoup points. I would say they are going to be needed because while our defense is still very good - there are opportunities to exploit it. the DB's are still suspect (and yes, i realize our starters were injured) and while there is some good young talent - we still have some veterans playing that have clearly lost a step. don't get me wrong, i love potsie - but I think he's going to be a big target this year. if the defense can hold opponents to 21 points or less and the o-line stays healthy and gets some good continuity - this could be a very successful season.

from sept:

I've been a long-time BA critic but I was pretty fair with him last year and I thought that was a nice job. I think this year we are really stacked on offense. If the steelers aren't in the top 10 for points (and no major injuries to blame) - anyone think smizik will hold BA accountable?

from Oct:

BA isn't a moron and he has some logical excuses in that article. my issue is while I freely acknowledge I'm an amateur and would never try to pretend I understand the offense more than the pros - it's a results business. at the end of the day I believe we have talent and have had considerable talent on offense in the past. yet for some reason, in the BA era we have not been an elite offense. we have not been explosive. we have been the kind of offense that in an era that really favors scoring, we struggle to put points on the board.

it's easy to point to a specific play and say why it didn't work. I'm looking at BA's entire body of work as OC. yes, we won a SB and appeared in another - but I still think his offense has underachieved.

my point is that since I'm not a professional coach it's likely that I can't make a professional evaluation of arians. nevertheless, I think he is an average coordinator at best. I base that on my amateur observations of his units over the past several years AND the fact that (in my opinion) if he were considered elite by his peers - there would be interest in him either as a head coach or some other upgrade, such as the assistant HC gig Russ Grimm got at arizona. and please don't think i'm comparing him to russ, I'm just using that as an example.

here's another example. the patriots have had a terrific offense for oh, about the last decade. is it all tom brady? he IS fantastic but besides him, they seem to plug players in and out every year and still put up huge numbers. so is it the players or the coach? certainly a combination and if you acknowledge that Ben is an elite QB (which I think he is) then the combination is lacking somewhere else. you are correct above. this thread is about Bruce Arians. I think he's had enough years to show what his offenses are capable of. They are good but not great. I'd like a shot at great - particularly if our great defense is potentially sliding back towards just being good.

or:

what I want in an offense.

1. to be consistently ranked in the top 10
2. to be able to both run and throw prolifically
3. to have an offense that is innovative and copied by the rest of the league
4. to have an OC that is identified as 'the next head coach in the league'

look, I know those are easy things to want and of course very difficult to achieve - yet as I keep saying, in these days of the NFL's love of offense it appears to me year in and year out with BA we look at pre-season and marvel over all the weapons and then we find ourselves disappointed during the regular season. I would rather performances like yesterday be the the standard - not the exception. I would rather an offense that AVERAGES 30 points a game. I AM an amateur when it comes to dissecting qualifications and performance. Yet I say year in and year out - the professionals in the league have spoken. BA is coveted by no other team. why is that?

Why do we lose our minds when the defense isn't ranked in the top 5 - yet are thrilled when we crack the top 15 on the offense?

we have a franchise QB. We have solid backs. we have speed and youth at WR. and we have BA.

the math seems pretty simple to me.

Dee Dub
01-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Why isnt it that we as Steeler fans can't always see with our eyes? Why is it we almost always see with our hearts? Let's look at some facts with our hearts aside...

Ben was seriously hurt over the last several games. His mobility (which is one of his major strengths), was seriously hampered.

The Steelers offensive line once again looked like a revolving door for a large part of the season. Think about it how bad it was...the Steelers had to go get a LT out of retirement after the season had already started.

The Steelers do not have a receiver who posses the ability to beat a press off the line of scrimmage with any consistency. I'll concede that Cotchery does but he was limited to playing time this year.

The Steelers number 1 RB almost always needs conditions to me perfect in order for him to be successful. Very rarely will you see Mendenhall make things on his own.

The Steelers dont have a legit redzone WR.

The Steelers #1 or #2 WR (depending on who you ask), going into this year had Father Time hit him upside his aging body.

Personally, I think the Steelers got quite a bit out of this offense when you objectively look at all things considered.

feltdizz
01-14-2012, 06:31 PM
I agree with Dub and Pap.

BURGH86STEEL
01-14-2012, 08:52 PM
The offense scored points. Scoring more then the opposition is all that matters. They scored enough to help the team win 12 games. Too many mistakes by both sides of the ball hurt their chances vs the Broncos.

Inconsistent QB play for much of the season and injuries on the Oline contributed more then any other factors to the offenses inability to score points.

feltdizz
01-14-2012, 10:02 PM
I don't know why it's so important to score a ton of points every week. As long as we score more then the other team I'm happy. It would be easier on the heart if we blew more teams out but look at New Orleans. All those points don't make the loss feel any better.

hawaiiansteel
01-15-2012, 08:50 PM
Steelers look for offense to take off next season

By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, January 15, 2012

Here is a statistical look at the Steelers during the 2011 regular season:

4: NFL rank in third-down conversions

23: NFL rank in sacks per pass play (1 for every 12.9)

45.9: Third-down conversion rate

49.1: Mike Wallace's average receiving yards in final eight games

53.9: Antonio Brown's average receiving yards in first eight games

74.2: Conversion rate on field goal attempts, tied for 31st in the NFL

84.6: Brown's average receiving yards in final eight games

90.1: Ben Roethlisberger's passer rating, the third-lowest of his career

100.0: Wallace's receiving yards in first eight games

631: Receiving yards by tight end Heath Miller, the second-highest single-season total of his career


Guard Trai Essex is one of the Steelers' 11 unrestricted free agents, and he hopes to return in 2012. Among his reasons: He doesn't want to miss out on the fun.

Essex is among those in the organization who think the offense has a chance to take off next season.

"The sky is the limit," said Essex, who was drafted by the Steelers in 2005. "Once we get a consistent o-line and stop getting hurt all of the time, we will be fine."

That may be easier said than done, given the Steelers' continuity issues up front. But addressing offensive line questions this offseason, one that will bring more change than usual to one of the NFL's most stable franchises, could be the key to unlocking the offense's potential.

The Steelers are flush with talent at the skill positions, particularly at receiver. Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is in his prime and headed to his second Pro Bowl. There is uncertainty at running back, with starter Rashard Mendenhall having to come back from a torn ACL. But Isaac Redman, in his second start last Sunday, gashed the Denver Broncos for 121 yards rushing in a 29-23 overtime loss.

His performance in the AFC wild-card game showed that the former undrafted free agent can be more than a dependable short-yardage back. And he was only one of eight key players on offense who had no more than three years of experience this season, meaning the unit has considerably more upside than the Steelers' aging defense.

"We have all the talent in the world on the offensive side of the ball to be the No. 1 offense in the league," Redman said. "To have all of the talent that we do, we kind of look at where we finished this year with the offense and are like, 'We're better than that.'"

The Steelers ranked 12th in the NFL in total offense (372.3 yards per game) but tied for 21st in scoring (20.3 points per game).

The disconnect between the two can probably be traced to the offense's struggles after it got in scoring range.

The Steelers scored touchdowns 50.9 percent of the time they were inside the opponent's 20-yard line, ranking 18th of 32 teams.

"One aspect of the game where we have to get better is in the red zone," said receiver Antonio Brown, who had a breakout season. "Maybe I should have (made) some more plays, so I'll just blame me. I think it's all about looking within yourself as an individual and seeing what you could have done better, and I'm pretty sure that the other guys feel the same way."

The struggles of an offensive line that used 10 starting combinations in 17 games were magnified inside the 20-yard line. Staying relatively healthy in 2012 -- and developing cohesion -- would go a long way toward the Steelers' improving up front.

The team figures to address the line early in this year's draft, if not with their first-round pick. The Steelers have taken All-Pro center Maurkice Pouncey and tackle Marcus Gilbert in rounds one and two, respectively, of the past two drafts.

They could target a guard with one of their early picks this year.

Upgrading the line won't be the only significant step the Steelers take to improve the offense.

Roethlisberger and the receivers will have an entire offseason to work together, something they did sparingly last year because of the lockout.

Roethlisberger talked to Brown and wideout Emmanuel Sanders about that after the loss to the Broncos, and their conversation didn't end in the hushed visiting locker room at Denver's Sports Authority Stadium.

"Talking to Ben on the plane, we're going to get together this offseason, and we're going to continue to grow as an offense," said Sanders, who missed five games because of injuries. "The goal is always to be the No. 1 offense, so we're headed in that direction."

Teams, per the new collective bargaining agreement, are allowed to have 10 voluntary practices during the offseason as well as at least five minicamp practices that are mandatory.

Roethlisberger indicated he and the receivers also will work on their own.

"We can be great," Roethlisberger said. "We just have to put in the work in the offseason. A lot of that is going to fall on me."

He is not the only one who thinks the Steelers need to take a sense of urgency into the offseason.

"The lack of work that we had this summer with the lockout, you could tell that kind of hurt us," Redman said. "In the offseason we just need to come together and get that timing and have that edge on every other team. We just need to work harder."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1jZeh2SXA (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_776719.html#ixzz1jZeh2SXA)

SteelTorch
01-15-2012, 09:11 PM
People like to blame Ben and the O-line for our woes. While I agree the O-line is putrid, Arians has been the ONLY common denominator in this offense since 2007. Even Ben has missed several games. All other positions, even in coaching, have seen several changes in personnel. BA is the only constant in all this.

NorthCoast
01-18-2012, 08:33 PM
BA Stays but Same Problem Remains: Steelers Canít Score

Posted on January 12, 2012


To all of you who are glad that Bruce Arians is likely staying with the Steelers, I would humbly like to submit the following question: Why canít this offense score points?

The Steelers are 19th in the league in total touchdowns with 36. Breaking that number down further we are 15th in the league with 13 rushing TDs and 13th with 21 receiving scores (then one each for special teams and defense Ė that defensive stat has the Steelers tied for second to last Ö but thatís another issue).

First off, I need to begin by saying that I am not a BA basher. I donít blame him for all the woes of this team, nor do I put every loss at his feet. There are plenty of reasons why the Steelers, as a team, underperformed this season, from injuries, to clock management issues, and, at times, just plain poor execution on both sides of the ball. But hereís what I want to discuss: the offense and scoring in particular.

Why do we consistently fail to put up points when our team has an elite QB, one of if not the best group of WRs in the league, an elite RB (and an excellent backup), and an average (when healthy) offensive line? Sanchez, Romo, Ryan, Fitzpatrick and Newton all have more passing touchdowns that Big Ben, but few (Editorís note: no one) would argue are better quarterbacks. This simply should not happen; none of these QBs have a better set of options for the pass.

Now many would say that our problem is poor offensive line play. But a quick look at Football Outsiders tells a slightly different story when it comes to pass protection. According to their stats, Pittsburghís O-line ranked 20th in pass pro. But Carolina (21st), Green Bay (23rd), and Arizona (28th) scored at least as many passing touchdowns as the Steelers (the Packers scored 51!) with worse performances from their offensive lines.

Another telling stat: Pittsburgh is 10th in the league in total passing yards this season, yet only 21st in scoring. The full list of teams with a better total scoring rank is a depressing read. These rankings tell a story every Steelers fan knows all too well, this team can move the ball between the 20s on almost any opponent but fails to finish drives. Whatís more, this team hasnít last broken the top ten in scoring since 2007 (9th), Ariansí first year as the offensive coordinator.

My argument is that given this team, with a franchise quarterback, outstanding receiving options including a solid tight end, and a very respectable set of running backs has continued to underwhelm. I have no suggestions for Ariansí replacement, nor am I saying fire him immediately. I just think we should look around and see what else is available.

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/a ... #more-6671 (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/01/arians-stays-steelers-cant-score/#more-6671)

The highlighted part of this post is the fallacy that everyone makes when asking why Arians' offense can't score points. Ben is the only elite player on offense, the WRs are young and inexperienced and getting better, but they are not this unstoppable force. The running backs right now are average (potential doesn't translate to performance) and the TEs are slightly above average because of Heath (and, in today's NFL his blocking ability has little affect on a game). The o-line is at best average, I would say below average, the reasons not withstanding (injury, talent and no continuity).

Personally, I think Ben gets as much out of this group as possible. He also gets the least out of them as possible at times due to his erratic play. Look back at 2011 without the Steeler colored shades, Wallace fell off the planet after game 8, Mendenhall never was dominant, Heath had catches in the 1st quarter and then disappeared, the o-line isn't built to be good at run blocking or pass blocking, so, the Steelers get average o-line play and hope Ben can make something happen. Ben himself, would put the Steelers in a hole and then proceed to climb out (for the most part) and when he couldn't they lost.

The offense needs help on the interior line (specifically guards) and more consistent play from Ben and the WRs. The running backs need to step up to being above average NFL caliber backs. I'm not certain the players currently on the roster are the answer to the scoring problems of the Steelers.

Sanders and Brown may end up being the #1 and #2 receivers with Wallace being #3 and hopefully, Cotchery would like to give it another go as the #4. The offenses in the NFL with a tight end that is exclusively a pass receiver are being very successful, the Steelers need to probably try and develop or draft a weapon of this nature. Heath is a throw back and I love the way he plays and conducts himself, but I'm not certain he's the answer in today's NFL at tight end.

Ben is never going to be consistent because of the way he plays, so, the Steelers have to take the good with the bad and the good outweighs the bad by a long shot.

Steeler fans take a hard look at the talent and I believe you'll come to the same conclusion, that Arians while part of the problem, isn't the main problem or the only problem. He can stay or go as far as I'm concerned, but the players need to improve or the Steelers need to find more talented players before the offense will be as successful as many think it should.

Pappy

"Youngness" argument doesn't hold water when you have teams like the Niners and Bengals that score more but are actually younger than the Steelers.

BA offenses have never ranked higher than 9th in the league in scoring. And have recently been quite averaging or worse.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-18-2012, 09:15 PM
Don't make excuses for Arians by bringing the OL into the discussion. We know it sucks & he knows it sucks. Tomlin's crap rah rah mantra of 'the standard is the standard' is just that, crap. You wanna know what a GOOD offensive coordinator does? He designs plays to his teams strengths. With that in mind, once inside the 20's you have Heath, Saunders, Hines, Brown, & Mendenhall on the field. You have Ben in shotgun because having him under center does nothing but waste time dropping back before he is getting his butt kicked cause the OL can't block. If he is under center it is to hand off, to go play action to a quick hitter, or it's to bootleg which we don't do enough of. Wallace isn't on the field inside the 20's cause his hands suck. Hines is cause he can catch in tight spaces & he can take a hit & hold onto the ball. Heath & Saunders are both huge targets. You can throw jump balls to Saunders. If we get inside the 5 then Redman replaces Mendy.

A good OC would also get rid of the retarded bunch formations of wr's & te's 5 yards from the tackles. This causes the defensive secondary to mirror the formation keeping more defenders inside the hash marks. This makes it possible for 2 DB's to cover 3 wr's for a time & takes away any possibility of a quick hitter pass. The steelers do this to open up the passing on the outside but it doesn't work cause it takes too long to develop. Spreading teams out makes it more of a one on one battle between Wr/TE & db which is what we should be looking for. This creates matchup issues & why Brady normally destroys us cause he can see that the lone cb can't cover X receiver or that Anthony killswitch smith is the deep help. It's moronic I can see this crap & BA can't.

Btw I hate auto correct cause I had to edit this 3 times due to it!

hawaiiansteel
01-19-2012, 12:35 AM
Steelers coordinator Arians might not return to team

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 18, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/b-arians2.jpg?w=181

Ben Roethlisberger isnít going to be happy with a bit of breaking news in Pittsburgh.

Two weeks after Big Ben gave the organization a pre-emptive warning about possibly changing offensive coordinators, there is a report that offensive coordinator Bruce Arians may not be back with the team.

Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that Ariansí status with the team is uncertain. Ariansí contract is up; itís unclear if the Steelers donít want Arians back or whether Arians is considering retirement. The latter seems more likely.

Weíve been down a similar road with Arians before. In January of 2010, there was an incorrect radio report that Arians was fired after the season. Arians also thought about retiring after last season because of health problems.

Club president Art Rooney said Tuesday that a few Steelers coaches are considering retirement, but didnít say which coaches.

The Steelers transitioned to more of a pass-based offense this season, but they were inconsistent as a unit. They finished 21st in team scoring and gave up a ton of sacks. Pittsburghís lack of forced turnovers on defense didnít help.

Arians has been the teamís offensive coordinator for five years. Coach Mike Tomlin told Arians last week heíd be back with the team and said publicly he expected Arians to return.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ot-return/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/18/steelers-coordinator-arians-might-not-return/)

Mister Pittsburgh
01-19-2012, 03:40 PM
If Art 2 is going over Tomlin to get rid of Arians, does he have the decision on who we will hire?