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flippy
01-10-2012, 11:26 AM
The SEC has become so dominant lately. It's like that's where the men play and the little boys are in all the other conferences.

Just makes me think, it'd be hard to go wrong just drafting purely SEC guys.

steelz09
01-10-2012, 11:49 AM
I don't think we should draft only SEC talent but you can't debate the SEC's success. There are still great players at other conferences but just not as many as the SEC.

SEC has size and speed. That's the biggest difference. Oregon can match the SEC's speed but they don't have the size. SEC has both.

I think we should draft BPA Florida Gator o-line (hopefully a guard). We could soon have an all-gator line. Starks (gator), Pouncey (gator), Gilbert (gator). Oddly enough, these are our 3 best lineman too.

RuthlessBurgher
01-10-2012, 12:41 PM
Sure, we got Pouncey, Gilbert, Starks, Wallace, Hines, etc. from the SEC.

But we also got Troy from the Pac 10. Ben and Harrison and Antonio and Leftwich and Batch from the MAC. Woodley and Mendenhall and Foote from the Big 10. Heath and Farrior and Timmons from the ACC. Casey from the Big 12. Keisel from the Mountain West. Smitty from the Big Sky. Ike from the Sun Belt.

Talent comes from everywhere. Our scouts will find it.

MicroBioSteel
01-10-2012, 01:06 PM
When we play another subzero playoff game I don't like the idea of most of the team being from the south. We need and have some Wisconson/Michigan etc. as they have grown up to play in such conditions. I like knowing that the team has guys with hands that can be trusted in the cold.

I hypothesize that the reason the SEC/Texas has been doing so well recently is because the younger players would rather play in warmer winning environments over playing in cold winning environments. I don't know how i feel about players taking the more comfortable way out....may say something about those players.

steelz09
01-10-2012, 01:14 PM
Just because they play for the SEC doesn't mean they are from the south.... although thtat's mostly true.

Vice-versa, let's say someone plays for Central Michigan (i.e. Antonio Brown). That doesn't mean he's from the north and accustomed to the cold. Brown was born and raised in Miami, FL.

feltdizz
01-10-2012, 01:39 PM
On D? Yes... at RB? Sure....

However, after last night I'm not sure if LSU will ever have an offensive player drafted again. LOL..

That was a disgusting display of offense by LSU. Did Jamarcus go back to LSU for one more year?

Dee Dub
01-10-2012, 02:18 PM
On D? Yes... at RB? Sure....

However, after last night I'm not sure if LSU will ever have an offensive player drafted again. LOL..

That was a disgusting display of offense by LSU. Did Jamarcus go back to LSU for one more year?

I think that has a lot to do with Les Miles. He had a guy who could throw the ball on the sideline with Jarrett Lee (14 Td's 3 INT's and a 62.3% completion percentage). He did the same thing with Matt Flynn. And as we see with the Packers, Matt Flynn can throw the football. There are going be a lot of NFL teams trying to get him this off-season.

flippy
01-10-2012, 03:25 PM
I get that good players come from everywhere. But the SEC is becoming really dominant compared to the other conferences. And it seems like the odds of picking a guy who's good enough to play in the NFL is higher when you draft a player from the SEC given the level of competition.

Has anyone ever compared the success rates of guys making the NFL from different conferences? Are there certain conferences where their draft picks pan out more than others?

grotonsteel
01-10-2012, 04:04 PM
No.. but i would not mind Alshon Jefferey from South Carolina in the 1st Rd.

Steelers Red Zone woes would reduce by half.

steelz09
01-11-2012, 12:08 PM
I get that good players come from everywhere. But the SEC is becoming really dominant compared to the other conferences. And it seems like the odds of picking a guy who's good enough to play in the NFL is higher when you draft a player from the SEC given the level of competition.

Has anyone ever compared the success rates of guys making the NFL from different conferences? Are there certain conferences where their draft picks pan out more than others?

SEC has most starters in the NFL. And yes, I would say that statistically your probably more likely to draft a player that is "good" enough to play in the NFL if you choose players from the SEC.

Because your right, the level of competetition cannot be disputed.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-11-2012, 01:13 PM
I like Big Ten OL, LB and DL for some reason. Not a fan of Big Ten RB's.

snarky
01-11-2012, 01:16 PM
I get that good players come from everywhere. But the SEC is becoming really dominant compared to the other conferences. And it seems like the odds of picking a guy who's good enough to play in the NFL is higher when you draft a player from the SEC given the level of competition.

Has anyone ever compared the success rates of guys making the NFL from different conferences? Are there certain conferences where their draft picks pan out more than others?

SEC has most starters in the NFL. And yes, I would say that statistically your probably more likely to draft a player that is "good" enough to play in the NFL if you choose players from the SEC.

Because your right, the level of competetition cannot be disputed.

Actually, I wouldn't get too carried away suggesting that SEC players make better picks across the board. Yes, a lot of stars come out of the SEC, but look at the hit rate for late round SEC vs. late round Sun Belt:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... c&show=all (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1999&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=4&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=ALL&college_id=all&conference=sec&show=all)

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... t&show=all (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1999&year_max=2011&type=&round_min=4&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=ALL&college_id=all&conference=sunbelt&show=all)

The sample size is smaller for the Sun Belt; but just eyeballing the lists it looks like diamonds in the rough are easier to spot in the Sun Belt (there just happen to be fewer of them).

aggiebones
01-11-2012, 02:16 PM
Interesting thought.

But look at an SEC DL.
You have 3-4 studs across that DL. But which 1 is stealing from the next guy.

Always reminds me of Hampton and SRodgers at tu. Rodgers was stealing from Hampton the whole time. He was lazy and Hampton busted his butt. Rodgers is still lazy, yet people still pay him.

Beware to get the lazy partner in a talented duo.

Its a tough proposition either way. Talented kid in a weak conference or talented kid getting lots of help in the SEC.

flippy
01-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Interesting thought.

But look at an SEC DL.
You have 3-4 studs across that DL. But which 1 is stealing from the next guy.

Always reminds me of Hampton and SRodgers at tu. Rodgers was stealing from Hampton the whole time. He was lazy and Hampton busted his butt. Rodgers is still lazy, yet people still pay him.

Beware to get the lazy partner in a talented duo.

Its a tough proposition either way. Talented kid in a weak conference or talented kid getting lots of help in the SEC.

That's a good point.

It may be easier to identify the talent in another conference where one guy is head and shoulders above everyone else.

But when there's a bunch of good players, it may be more difficult to identify which are the lazy one or the one who isn't fully pulling their weight that some other stud might be covering up.

So maybe you're better off staying away from the SEC :)

Slapstick
01-11-2012, 04:04 PM
Didn't the Chefs spend two high 1st round picks on underperforming LSU DEs?

On defense, their stars are Hali (Big 10) and Johnson (Big 12).

Shawn
01-11-2012, 05:17 PM
You mean not draft guys like Woodley and Heyward...guys from the Big Ten?

Chadman
01-12-2012, 10:35 PM
Steelers draft mantra under Colbert is to draft "Big Production, Big College Program" players early, be it SEC, PAC-10, Big-10 etc.

So long as the player is productive & from a good level of competition, they are on the radar.

Only in later rounds do they seem to waver from that plan.