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Discipline of Steel
01-01-2012, 08:12 PM
6/22 for 60 yards and an int

im not sure anything more needs to be said

NJ-STEELER
01-01-2012, 08:28 PM
the string of crap QBs we've played this year continues into the playoffs

SteelBucks
01-01-2012, 08:32 PM
We should find out soon it's a Saturday or Sunday game.

RuthlessBurgher
01-01-2012, 08:36 PM
Where is the "Tim Tebow Coming Back To Earth" thread?

hawaiiansteel
01-01-2012, 08:40 PM
playing in Denver will not be easy, wonder if Ryan Clark will have to sit this game out?

http://joemontanasrightarm.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tim-tebow-jesus-jersey.jpg

drprwnap
01-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Hopefully, the media love affair is OVER!

DukieBoy
01-01-2012, 08:51 PM
We've had a tendency to make mediocre QB's look really good.

And Lewis and Clark and Cortez, all may truly be history for the game in Denver. Oh, and no Curtis Brown too.

feltdizz
01-01-2012, 08:52 PM
I don't like this matchup. This should be an easy win but we have problems with mobile QB's. It will be a long off season if Tebow beats us.

hawaiiansteel
01-01-2012, 08:58 PM
6/22 for 60 yards and an int

im not sure anything more needs to be said


be careful what you wish for, you just might get it...

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snarky
01-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Where is the "Tim Tebow Coming Back To Earth" thread?

His numbers today were reminiscent of Bradshaw's early work. So he's probably good for 3+ Super Bowls.

fordfixer
01-01-2012, 09:08 PM
Tim Tebow will meet Deebo :tt1 :tt1 :tt1

DukieBoy
01-01-2012, 09:11 PM
Tim Tebow will meet Deebo :tt1 :tt1 :tt1


And the refs will keep their flags in hand, not in the pocket.

Steelers>NFL
01-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Tim Tebow will meet Deebo :tt1 :tt1 :tt1


And the refs will keep their flags in hand, not in the pocket.

LOL! True dat!

SteelAbility
01-01-2012, 10:11 PM
Where is the "Tim Tebow Coming Back To Earth" thread?

DD is composing it as we ... type. :D

fordfixer
01-01-2012, 10:15 PM
playing in Denver will not be easy, wonder if Ryan Clark will have to sit this game out?

http://joemontanasrightarm.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tim-tebow-jesus-jersey.jpg


IIRC Ryan was cleared to play in Denver the last time the Steelers played there, However the team held him out. I think they should do the same this time.

Ozey74
01-01-2012, 10:16 PM
It's going to be a loooooooooooooong week at work day dreaming about this match-up.

hawaiiansteel
01-01-2012, 10:40 PM
Tim Tebow, Broncos clinch AFC West despite season-ending slide

Associated Press


DENVER -- Tim Tebow has always done things the unorthodox way. Making the playoffs was no different.

He fell short in his latest comeback bid, yet his Denver Broncos are still going to the playoffs.

Kyle Orton got his revenge in leading the Kansas City Chiefs to a 7-3 win over Denver on Sunday, but it's the Broncos who clinched the AFC West and are headed to the postseason.

After congratulating their former starting quarterback, the Broncos celebrated the end to their six-year playoff drought once San Diego beat Oakland 38-26 later Sunday.

Losers of their last three games, the Broncos finished 8-8, same as the Raiders. They won their first division title since 2005 on a tiebreaker.

So, everybody at Mile High got what they wanted even though Tebow couldn't beat the guy he failed to beat out in training camp.

Tebow, though, got the last laugh.

Orton, who also handed Green Bay its only loss, went 2-1 in Kansas City. His steady play likely raised his stock as he prepares to enter free agency. And he might have secured interim coach Romeo Crennel's future.

Best of all, he beat the team that benched him after he finally caved under the weight of Tebowmania and the Broncos stumbled to a 1-4 start.

The Broncos revamped their offense to fit Tebow's unorthodox skill set and surged to the top of their division. They released Orton in the midst of a 7-1 run that included a series of fourth-quarter comebacks that captivated the football world.

Never before in the four-plus decades since the AFL-NFL merger has a starting quarterback returned to start a game in the same season against his former team.

Orton didn't do much but he didn't have to. The game's only touchdown came on Dexter McCluster's 21-yard scamper with 11 seconds left in the first quarter.

Orton's 18-yard completion to Jonathan Baldwin on third-and-9 from his own 12 with five minutes left in the game was as big a play as he had all afternoon as this was a battle of field position and the Punting Colquitt Bros. more than anything else.

The Broncos got the ball back at their own 20 with 3:59 left.

Tebow time? Not this time.

The Broncos were forced to punt with 2:37 remaining, but Orton was no better and the Chiefs punted it back to them, but because coach John Fox had mismanaged the final minute of the first half -- calling a timeout and then deciding against a long field goal -- the Broncos needed to go 84 yards with 58 seconds left instead of just needing to get into field goal range for another game-winner by Matt Prater.

Tebow, who had completed four passes all afternoon with the Broncos running 47 times for 216 yards, including 145 by Willis McGahee, suddenly had to chuck it.

And he was intercepted by cornerback Brandon Carr with 8 seconds left.

Orton took a knee and the game was over.

Tebow finished 6 of 22 for 60 yards and added 16 yards on six carries.

The Broncos saved $2.6 million by releasing Orton just before Thanksgiving but Orton nearly made them pay an even heftier price for that decision, completing 15 of 29 passes for 180 yards against his former team and connecting with Dwayne Bowe six times for 93 yards against Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey.

Had Denver not backed into the playoffs, boss John Elway's dangerous decision to release Orton at midseason would have gone down as one of the biggest blunders in Broncos history.

And Fox would have been second-guessed for passing up on a 57-yard field goal attempt in the first half even though his kicker is the best in the business from long distance and points were at a premium.

Fox had called a timeout with 36 seconds left in the half and there was too much time on the clock for the Chiefs to score if Prater had missed.

The Broncos finally scored on Prater's 38-yarder in the third quarter.

Javier Arenas' muffed punt at his own 20 in the first quarter and Matthew Willis recovered for Denver. But the Broncos went nowhere and settled for the field goal.

Coming off the worst game of his career, a four-turnover blunder at Buffalo, Tebow killed Denver's only promising drive of the first half when he coughed up the football as he was trying to reach across the Chiefs 10-yard line for the first down and linebacker Justin Houston scooped up the loose ball.

Fox chose not to send out Prater for a 57-yard field goal attempt with 31 seconds left in the first half even though Prater is 12 of 16 from 50-plus yards, the best in the league since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.

The Broncos lost two offensive starters in the first half when right guard Chris Kuper, the stalwart on an otherwise young line, injured his left leg and fullback Spencer Larsen hurt a knee. Because they had deactivated Austin Sylvester, their only other fullback, the Broncos had to use two tight ends after that.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=320101007

fordfixer
01-02-2012, 12:43 AM
playing in Denver will not be easy, wonder if Ryan Clark will have to sit this game out?

http://joemontanasrightarm.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/tim-tebow-jesus-jersey.jpg


IIRC Ryan was cleared to play in Denver the last time the Steelers played there, However the team held him out. I think they should do the same this time.




@Dejan_KovacevicDejan Kovacevic

Ryan Clark said he'll discuss with Tomlin "later" his status regarding Denver, where altitude threatens his health. Didn't sound pleased.

fordfixer
01-02-2012, 01:33 AM
Let the Tebow talk begin

Monday, January 02, 2012

By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12002/1200803-150-0.stm

CLEVELAND -- In the whirling snow of the wind-battered Ohio lakeshore, Steelers-Browns came down to the final play on the NFL's climactic weekend, which meant nothing in the moment and just about everything to the politics of the AFC playoffs.

Its essential meaning was that not a lot has changed since that Thursday night little more than three weeks ago at Heinz Field, when the Steelers led these same dogged Dawg Pounders by only four points with three minutes left.

Sure Mike Tomlin's team won both games on its way to another 12-4 season, but what does it say when you roll that bus homeward on the Ohio Turnpike along with the haunting sense that it's a good thing you don't have to play Cleveland in the playoffs?

"We've got our marching orders," said a demonstrably upbeat Tomlin after a brutal Russian novel of a football game. "We're on our way to Denver."

Well that's certainly good news for those of us who just can't get enough Tim Tebow analysis.

I try to restrict my Tebow intake to the dialogue Saturday Night Live's writers create to lampoon the Bronco quarterback's presumptive link to a higher power, but maybe you noticed the way Denver powered down Sunday on Tebow's 8-for-22 in a 7-3 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Tebow has lorded over three consecutive losses that somehow got his team a fourth seed in the tournament that starts Saturday, mostly because somebody has to be the AFC West champion, even if they're 8-8.

"He's great at getting out of the pocket," said Brett Keisel, "and we'll have to adjust to the option. It's gonna be wild. Denver is gonna be pumped to be back in the playoffs.

"It's the playoffs and [I'm] very proud of what we've done to get there. We just need a couple more turnovers."

After two more takeaway-free weeks against San Francisco and St. Louis, Troy Polamalu finally came up with one Sunday and all it meant was the difference in a 13-9 victory that was delivered principally by the Steelers defense.

When Troy swiped a short Seneca Wallace pass intended for Browns tight end Evan Moore at the Cleveland 44, the offense punched in the only touchdown of a long afternoon.

Isaac Redman got home from 7 yards out, then fumbled to end two of the next three Steelers possessions, but Redman also wound up gaining 92 yards on 19 carries on a day when he joined Ryan Clark as a kind of dual story line at the doorway to the postseason.

"We had some injuries sustained in the game, many of which are minor, [but] of course the Rashard Mendenhall injury is not," Tomlin said in his best business-like tone. "Obviously you should anticipate that he won't be participating next week for us."

Obviously?

Yeah, it's that bad, and it means that the Steelers will go to the playoffs with Redman displacing their lead horse in the running game, and, because the venue is mile high Colorado, potentially without safety Clark as well.

Clark carries a sickle cell trait that can cause a serious blood disorder in high altitude.

"We've got to circle the wagons and try to be better on the road than we have been," Clark said an hour after Baltimore won the AFC North and home field by holding off the Bengals in the opposite corner of Ohio.

"I'd like to have gotten a bye, obviously, but this team is not about me. If I can't play, then that's what it is."

Cleveland was on its way to a tying touchdown Sunday when Dick LeBeau sent Clark on a safety blitz that floored Wallace 7 yards deep in his backfield, so Clark's value remains very much evident. If he can't play, that will certainly further pressurize an offense that hasn't produced a single touchdown pass since Dec. 8.

"They've got a great defense," said Ben Roethlisberger, who somehow managed a 23 for 40 performance in spite of a still-tender ankle and some unforgiving lake-driven winds.

"They've got a great pass rush, linebackers, great secondary. I've seen and heard of the havoc that they wreak."

On top of that, this is an offense that nearly got wreaked twice by the Cleveland Browns.

"They always play us tough," said Lawrence Timmons, "and they converted some big third downs today.

"Tebow can run like Wallace ran today, so we'll have our hands full. Tebow's been a very inspirational leader for them."

So I've heard.

And this week, I have a feeling I'll hear it again, and that you will hear it again and again and again and again until you'd like to see the Broncos beaten by about 50-0.

Then see what that inspires.


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Chadman
01-02-2012, 05:55 AM
Here's the thing- the Tebow vs Steelers match-up is VERY much in favour of the Black & Gold- the biggest 'weakness' the Steelers have had on defense is...passing defense. The biggest weakness of the Denver Tebow's....passing. They don't move the ball through the air very well at all. It'll be a run fest on their behalf- a tactic that plays to the Steelers strengths.

There will probably be 0 sacks for the Steelers, but if they can keep the Tebow's running game to around the 100 yard mark, there's very little chance that the Tebow's will score enough points to beat the Steelers. Heck- the Steelers might even get a couple of INT's if the Tebow's try passing.

Turnovers- that's the win/lose factor. If the Steelers can limit their turnovers, Chadman predicts a 24-3 rout of the Tebow's in Denverland.

Discipline of Steel
01-02-2012, 11:54 AM
Where is the "Tim Tebow Coming Back To Earth" thread?

Well, that was sort of the intent :) :)

I have a feeling Saint LeBeau will eat TT's lunch if we can force him into obvious passing downs. Wouldnt want any other opponent for the first round of this years playoffs. Time to go talk smack to my uncle in Colo... hahaha

Shoe
01-02-2012, 12:44 PM
Here's the thing- the Tebow vs Steelers match-up is VERY much in favour of the Black & Gold- the biggest 'weakness' the Steelers have had on defense is...passing defense. The biggest weakness of the Denver Tebow's....passing. They don't move the ball through the air very well at all. It'll be a run fest on their behalf- a tactic that plays to the Steelers strengths.

The thing about your prediction... which makes complete sense... is that die-hard Steeler fans have seen games like this (where we seem to be a mortal lock to win), and we've somehow, someway lost. I'm NOT predicting that... and the potential for us to dominate them as the Chadman says is strong... I think we're in for a nail-biting game, where Tebow possibly has the ball and the chance to drive them down the field on us.

fezziwig
01-02-2012, 01:42 PM
Tebo and their offense doesn't put any fear into me. Our offense seems to keep things too tight in the games so, we will have to throttle their offense so Arians and company can win by so few points.

NorthCoast
01-02-2012, 02:05 PM
Here's the thing- the Tebow vs Steelers match-up is VERY much in favour of the Black & Gold- the biggest 'weakness' the Steelers have had on defense is...passing defense. The biggest weakness of the Denver Tebow's....passing. They don't move the ball through the air very well at all. It'll be a run fest on their behalf- a tactic that plays to the Steelers strengths.

There will probably be 0 sacks for the Steelers, but if they can keep the Tebow's running game to around the 100 yard mark, there's very little chance that the Tebow's will score enough points to beat the Steelers. Heck- the Steelers might even get a couple of INT's if the Tebow's try passing.

Turnovers- that's the win/lose factor. If the Steelers can limit their turnovers, Chadman predicts a 24-3 rout of the Tebow's in Denverland.

Chadman, not sure how you came to this conclusion. I don't think the Steelers run defense has been nearly as impenetrable as in previous years. In fact, I think they are ranked 8th in the league in defensive rush yds allowed. On the other hand, and probably due to the number of lame QBs we have faced this season, the Steelers passing defense (yds allowed) is ranked #1.
I see this match up a lot like the PIT-KC game (KC has a decent defense) and THAT game was a struggle to the end. Keep in mind KC was led by a barely NFL QB in Palko and if it was not for a few god-awful throws (which hopefully Tebow will provide in the next game) KC may have been able to pull the game out.

Our offense has been as anemic as the Browns for nearly a month (yesterday first TD since Dec. 8). We can point to a lot of contributing factors (OL shambles, gimpy Ben, lame OC) but the bottom line is we have been winning in spite of the offense, and BECAUSE of the defense. I see the Denver game as no different (in fact, offensively we are in even worse shape).

fordfixer
01-02-2012, 04:28 PM
Tebow Mystique’ evaporating for Broncos

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=A ... ers_010112 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjbM7O6FSxYrk0WReJUVS.pDubYF?slug=lc-carpenter_tim_tebow_broncos_steelers_010112)


By Les Carpenter, Yahoo!


DENVER – The improbable champions wore no hats. They didn’t dance. They didn’t dump Gatorade. They didn’t scream into the frosty mountain night the way winners do when the impossible has happened. The Denver Broncos might be unlikely conquerors of the AFC West – a once 1-4 team now hosting the Super Bowl runner-up Pittsburgh Steelers – but the party was somewhere else on Sunday night.

Whatever magic lived for two blessed months in the frantic autumn of 2011 was gone on the first day of 2012, replaced with the awkward uncertainty of a team led by a quarterback who has become something less than ordinary. Percentages have evened out. The outlandish can’t happen every week and, robbed of his powers to make miracles, Tim Tebow’s Broncos have become what the scoreboard said: 7-3 losers to the Kansas City Chiefs. And this isn’t the way you want to be marching into the postseason.

No player in the NFL is as confounding as the man who came to save the Broncos for seven of eight weeks. He can be at times a contortionist, pulling Denver from sure defeats, and also overmatched, looking like a man who shouldn’t play another game in the NFL.


“The problem is still his throwing motion,” said one NFL quarterbacks coach when reached Sunday night.


Tebow pulls his arm back so far, the coach said, that it becomes obvious when he is going to throw, and since Tebow also tends to lock his eyes on his receivers, defensive backs realize where the ball is going. They rush to those receivers, forcing Tebow to either attempt precise throws he still cannot make or tuck the ball and run. On Sunday the holes in the defense weren’t there the way they had been in October and November. He had 16 yards rushing and those came hard and painful.


His final line on Sunday read like a failed experiment from the exhibition season: 6-for-22 for 60 yards and a passer rating of 20.6.

It’s as if a blueprint has been made of how to stop Tebow and now everyone is following it.


Or as another NFL quarterbacks coach said recently: “He’s not a quarterback. He can’t throw.”


Yes, this is a problem indeed because Tebow remains the Broncos’ best hope, the player around whom an offense has been built, a player whose ability to hold onto the ball allowed Denver coach John Fox to emphasize a run-first attack that made the Broncos’ defense more effective. It is no accident the Broncos won seven of the first eight games they played after dumping Kyle Orton and making Tebow the starter. And yet there is also a real sense that next weekend’s game might also be for his future here.

Seven wins – including five amazing, resourceful, last-second victories – don’t add up to much when paired with four straight losses if Denver loses next Sunday to the Steelers. They look even worse with passer ratings of 37.9 and 20.6 which is what he’s had these last two weeks.

It is not a secret in NFL circles that team vice president John Elway is uncomfortable with Tebow mania. On Sunday evening he stood in the news conference room adjacent to the Broncos locker room and watched as Tebow answered questions with his usual optimistic, non-revealing manner. Elway placed his foot on a chair and faced away from the podium where Tebow stood. He smiled when Tebow politically answered a loaded question about officiating with a passive-aggressive, “I think the refs do a good job and I think they did a great job in the game.”

But there was also a stern look on Elway’s face, one that seemed to say he has much more on his mind than just a 7-3 loss and a home game looming with the Steelers. Trying to read Elway on Tebow became one of Denver’s parlor games last year. There was always a sense he was painted into a corner, stuck with the previous regime’s brilliant idea and desperate to get onto a quarterback who more resembled him. Through the winning, Elway gave more grudging endorsements of Tebow. But the three losses have changed the atmosphere. As quickly as Tebow rose, the sense around the team is that he is tumbling just as fast.


Three weeks ago, after the last of the miracles, the Broncos coaches sounded more enthusiastic about Tebow. He was throwing better they said. They told a narrative of a quarterback who spent half an hour before and after practice doing nothing but work on his footwork, with their belief that his balance would improve his throwing. And the fact is his throwing did get better. His passes were crisper, more accurate. Of all the criticisms of his game, no one challenges the hours he puts into watching film and working on his skills.

After the game someone asked Tebow if the “Tebow Mystique” – whatever that means – was gone. The quarterback smiled shyly.


“I don’t know about any mystique, but I am very grateful that we have another opportunity,” he said. “It’s very exciting to win the [AFC] West.”


If only everyone else around the Broncos seemed as thrilled. Mostly it seemed the miracle man was walking through the room with a stocking hat pulled down on his head and no miracles left.

fordfixer
01-02-2012, 04:54 PM
Steelers safety Clark's status in doubt for Broncos game
NFL.com
Published: Jan. 2, 2012 at 10:05 a.m.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... line_stack (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d825a4631/article/steelers-safety-clarks-status-in-doubt-for-broncos-game?module=HP11_headline_stack)

Ryan Clark has been one of the most durable players in the Pittsburgh Steelers' secondary the past three years, but there's a decent chance he won't be allowed to suit up for Sunday's wild-card showdown against Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos despite his clean bill of health.

From the surprising Bengals and late-surging Giants to the playoff-tested Steelers and Saints, Elliot Harrison examines wild-card weekend. More ...


Clark has sickle cell trait, and the high altitude at Sports Authority Field at Mile High is problematic for his condition. Clark played a game at Denver during the 2007 season and became violently ill after the high altitude caused his blood to sickle. The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported a deprivation of oxygen to Clark's major organs eventually cost him his spleen and gall bladder.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin didn't let Clark play in a 2009 regular-season game at Denver nor in an exhibition game there last year, and Tomlin said Sunday the team plans to discuss Clark's situation with doctors this week before making a decision on his status.

"We're going to meet with the doctors at some point (today) or Tuesday," Tomlin said following the Steelers' 13-9 win over the Browns. "Last time we went (to Denver), we worked him out extensively to see how he responded, and they gathered the data in that regard. So we'll put some heads together, and when I'm talking about heads I'm talking about medical experts, not myself."

Clark told the Tribune-Review that he expects the decision to be Tomlin's and not his.

"It's easier on me that way anyway," Clark said. "No decision has been made, so we've got things to talk about."

eniparadoxgma
01-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Cleveland was on its way to a tying touchdown Sunday when bad word LeBeau sent Clark on a safety blitz that floored Wallace 7 yards deep in his backfield, so Clark's value remains very much evident.

Why? Because he got a sack on a safety blitz? Writer sounds like a casual fan, applauding a splash play and ignoring his actual value which is to...be a good safety and play well beside Troy, letting him play his game. Fwiw, I'm not trying to downplay Clark's play at all. He's one of the reasons we're where we are. My point has more to do with why the writer would point out a sack off a safety blitz as evidence of his value as opposed to what he does in every game? Just doesn't make sense to me.

feltdizz
01-03-2012, 01:28 PM
Cleveland was on its way to a tying touchdown Sunday when bad word LeBeau sent Clark on a safety blitz that floored Wallace 7 yards deep in his backfield, so Clark's value remains very much evident.

Why? Because he got a sack on a safety blitz? Writer sounds like a casual fan, applauding a splash play and ignoring his actual value which is to...be a good safety and play well beside Troy, letting him play his game. Fwiw, I'm not trying to downplay Clark's play at all. He's one of the reasons we're where we are. My point has more to do with why the writer would point out a sack off a safety blitz as evidence of his value as opposed to what he does in every game? Just doesn't make sense to me.

It's much easier to show Clarks value on a splash play that stopped a game tying drive vs pointing out all the unseen things he does while Troy runs free.

hawaiiansteel
01-04-2012, 02:21 AM
Kovacevic: Tebowing for the truth

By Dejan Kovacevic, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, January 4, 2012


In the spirit of the rise and subsequent fall of Tim Tebow, I offer this morning a few myths and realities regarding the mile-high main attraction of the Steelers' Sunday playoff duel.

And we'll begin, naturally, with ...

Myth: Tebow is a winner.

Reality: His record as an NFL starter is 8-6, so there's that. But toss aside his handful of late heroics and ESPN's symphonically scored narratives, and it's easy to see the real burden has been on Denver's defense. When the Broncos held opponents to 15.8 points per game in Tebow's first eight starts, he was 7-1. They've given up 29.3 over the past three, and all were losses. That's not drama. That's the D.

Myth: All that matters is the W.

Reality: That's true of a team, but it's a lousy way to evaluate individuals in a team sport. Unless you really believed that the Pirates' Kevin Correia was the National League's best pitcher at the All-Star break. Or that Trent Dilfer was a better quarterback than Dan Marino.

Myth: Tebow's legs make up for his arm.

Reality: His 72.9 passer rating ranks 28th among the NFL's 34 qualified quarterbacks, and he has rushed for 47 yards per game. The latter is neat for his position, but it's well short of a fair trade.

Myth: Because John Elway has vowed that Tebow will be Denver's starter entering 2012, there's no way coach John Fox would pull him mid-game against the Steelers.

Reality: Elway and all concerned aren't about to hand away a playoff game. Fox answered a question on the topic yesterday this way: "I don't do well with hypotheticals. I anticipate that we will play very well this Sunday." That's hardly taking umbrage at the notion.

Myth: The Steelers have to make significant defensive adjustments to counter Tebow.

Reality: Buffalo and Kansas City, Denver's past two opponents, have come at him from both sides to cut off his running room and force a quick pass. If that sounds familiar, that's what the Steelers have been doing since Dick LeBeau was watching Dick Van Dyke.

Myth: James Harrison and LaMarr Woodley must make that happen.

Reality: Did you see Troy Polamalu sacking Cleveland quarterback Seneca Wallace on a running play Sunday?

Myth: "Hey, I'm just trying not to get 'Tebowed,' " Harrison said Monday.

Reality: Don't buy it. The Steelers aren't about to overlook a playoff opponent, but their intimidation level regarding Tebow is zero.

Myth: The Steelers should be worried about a subpar quarterback because Curtis Painter, Tyler Palko and Wallace nearly pulled off winning drives at game's end.

Reality: Um, scoreboard?

Myth: Stop Tebow, and you stop the Denver ground game.

Reality: The Broncos' rushing offense ranked No. 1 in the NFL with an average of 164.5 yards per game. They were led by a revitalized Willis McGahee's 1,199 yards, including 10 rushes of 20-plus yards (one more than the entire Steelers roster). On the other side, as Steelers safety Ryan Clark said, "Our rushing defense has been our Achilles' heel, so this will be a great test."

Myth: Clark's absence won't hurt.

Reality: He plays in Polamalu's shadow, but he's consistently graded No. 1 by the coaches for open-field tackling, and he had a team-high 10 tackles Sunday. One was a sensational sack with Cleveland tight end Evan Moore clinging to his back like an octopus.

Myth: Part of Mike Tomlin's 36-second tribute to Tebow at his Tuesday news conference was this: "When I look at Tim Tebow, I see a guy who just wins. He's at his best in the significant moments. He makes those around him better. They buy into what he's selling. He's got natural charismatic leadership ability."

Reality: Should have heard his outlook for the Rams.

Myth: If Tebow beats the Steelers, someone in Baltimore will douse John Harbaugh with Gatorade.

Reality: Please. He'll be doused because the Ravens made it through the bye week.

Myth: I don't like Tebow.

Reality: That's not the case at all, honestly, although some of this might come across that way. I respect what he's done given clear limitations, as well as his faith and unflappable confidence. It's been, at times, a story fit for Disney. But the "Moneyball" generation of statistical analysis should teach even the sappiest sports fan to take emotion out of the mix. That's why they often call reality harsh.

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feltdizz
01-04-2012, 09:57 AM
I've never been a Tebow fan and the media is the primary reason. It reminds me of the female who has a nice friend who wants to go on a date. You keep asking how she looks and the female keeps talking about her character, good heart, volunteer work etc...

hawaiiansteel
01-04-2012, 11:31 PM
Tebow listens to Elway, knows he must 'pull the trigger'

By Dan Hanzus NFL.com
Published: Jan. 4, 2012


Broncos executive John Elway told a local columnist Tuesday that struggling quarterback Tim Tebow needed to "pull the trigger" to find success in Sunday's wild-card matchup against the Steelers.

Elway implored Tebow to leave the indecisiveness behind and play in the aggressive style that helped Denver during a six-game winning streak that gave way to a three-game skid.

Judging by Tebow's comments during a Wednesday media session at Broncos headquarters, Elway's words left an impression.

"The more you get into tighter games, playoff games, you've got to be aggressive," Tebow said, according to The Denver Post. "You also have to be smart, but you have to be aggressive and pull the trigger at times. That's something we'll have to do."

Tebow Time came to an abrupt halt as the quarterback fell into a deep slump in the final three games of the regular season, all Denver losses. Tebow threw only one touchdown pass in the last three games, completing just 41 percent of his passes while turning over the ball seven times.

Those are the numbers of a raw prospect, which the 24-year-old Tebow still very much is. But this also is the playoffs, where the margin for error disappears.

"It's trying to be smart and not put your team in a bad decision, because that's the fastest way to put your team out of a game," Tebow said. "Sometimes I do need to be more aggressive with certain routes and throws."

Trusting your instincts is all well and good, but those same instincts have a habit of betraying you when you face the No. 1 defense in football. Tebow has a huge challenge in front of him, one that could go a long way in determining how his boss views him in the Broncos' future.

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fordfixer
01-05-2012, 03:18 AM
Kovacevic: Tebow aces first playoff test
By Dejan Kovacevic, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, January 5, 2012

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ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Tim Tebow leaned against a hallway wall outside the media room in the Denver Broncos' practice facility on Wednesday, baseball cap spun backward, chin and eyelids lowered, all alone with his thoughts.

For the moment, anyway.

Once he'd crossed that threshold, as he well knew, dozens of reporters and rows of cameras awaited. He'd field questions about the three-game losing streak he and his team will drag into their playoff game on Sunday against the Steelers. About how defenses have schemed to cut off his unorthodox strength as a rushing quarterback. About whether Tebowmania, Tebow Time and even the art of Tebowing -- his one-kneed prayer that's so popular one dictionary recently added it to the English language -- have faded forever.

All tough stuff.

And the man was humming.

No kidding. As I headed toward that room and passed Tebow, I distinctly made out some pleasant-sounding tune sneaking through closed -- and smiling -- lips.

"Hey, man," Tebow offered as a greeting to this total stranger in his surfer dude delivery.

If there remains any mystery as to how this 24-year-old has shrugged off doubters like defensive ends, how he undid all those deficits in that captivating 7-1 stretch, there it was: Nothing bothers him, no matter the setting, no matter the score.

He took his place at the podium and stiff-armed us all with optimism founded in his devout faith, wrapped in boyish charm and topped with the occasional wink.

• On the critical issue of his confidence after three miserable games: "Hey, this is exciting. What a great opportunity this is, and it's a blessing. I know it'll be a rocking environment Sunday, and it'll be a lot of fun."

• On the hideous 6-of-22, 60-yard showing last week in a 7-3 loss to Kansas City: "I had looks, but I needed to be more aggressive, put the ball in there when I have the chance. I've got to do that Sunday."

• On the losing streak that backed the offense-starved Broncos into the playoffs with an 8-8 record: "We just, as an offense, have to be balanced. We have to keep defenses guessing. If we do that, I think we'll have a good chance."

• On John Elway, the Broncos' Hall of Fame quarterback and executive vice president, saying he noticed a fresh intensity in Tebow in the past few days: "Really? He said that? Cool."

His only flub came when I asked if the Steelers' defense presented a special challenge, and he rattled off a few names that included "Rodney Harrison." The Rodney Harrison was a superb safety for New England. The Steelers' Harrison, of course, is James.

When I reminded Tebow of this and tossed in that Harrison isn't the guy any quarterback wants to tick off, Tebow playfully came back: "Yeah, I know."

The storefronts of Denver's famed 16th Street Mall downtown still feature more No. 15 jerseys than those of everyone else with the Broncos combined. And most fans here still speak hopefully -- to a degree -- of the former University of Florida star who somehow used his college style to steer the franchise into the playoffs for the first time since 2005.

"I still think he can get it done, but I'm not as sure anymore," said Ken Brown of Englewood, who attended Tebow's Kansas City debacle. "You look at how tentative he is with his throws now, how he's fumbling. You just don't have a good feeling going against the Steelers."

There are other signs that the mania has settled. SportsBook.com reported yesterday that 77 percent of the money is betting on the Steelers as the nine-point favorite. And two ticket resellers, NFL Ticket Exchange and StubHub, showed more than 11,000 tickets still being offered.

The skeptics have excellent reasons for feeling as they do. I'm hardly alone in predicting that the Steelers' defense -- especially Troy Polamalu, LaMarr Woodley and the correct Harrison -- will have its way with Tebow and the Broncos. All the numbers say so. All the recent history says so.

But what if?

What if Ben Roethlisberger is really as hobbled as he described yesterday, and the Steelers might not score much against a decent Denver defense?

What if Denver's past three losses were really like three bad quarters, and Tebow can still pull it out in the fourth?

You know, Tebow time.

I might not believe, you might not believe, and even the Broncos' coach might not have a firm grip on Tebow's confidence level right now.

"You have to ask him that," John Fox said yesterday. "But he's been in big spots before. He's brought us back all season long. I think he's a confident guy."

Hard not to believe at least that much.

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fordfixer
01-05-2012, 03:24 AM
Forget hype, Tebow just wants to win
Thursday, January 05, 2012
By Michael Sanserino, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
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Some quarterbacks might have posted better numbers or won more games this season. Only one, however, has created a public phenomenon big enough to earn its own nickname -- Tebowmania.

But Tim Tebow, the Denver Broncos quarterback, said he is more concerned with winning a playoff game than living up to his hype.

He knows the former will be a tough enough task.

While he has willed his teams to some fourth-quarter wins, he has yet to face a defense with as many talented players as the Steelers. They are the NFL's best by most statistical measures.

"Take your pick," Tebow said Wednesday during a conference call with the media. "There are so many guys that you could name that are great players, and they all step up and make plays. That's one of the reasons they're always a great defense."

Tebow is an unconventional quarterback who makes more plays with his legs than he does his arm. Broncos vice president John Elway told Denver reporters this week he would advise Tebow to "pull the trigger" in the playoffs.

To Tebow, that means take some risks.

"You're not going to always have guys open," Tebow said. "You've got to pull the trigger and put it into tight windows. You've got to be smart and cautious, but at the same time you've got to be aggressive, too."

Tebow said he hopes he can lead a balanced attack against every team "to continually keep defenses off balance." Though, that's not always necessary -- the Broncos won a game this season in which Tebow completed only two passes.

The former Heisman Trophy winner said he is excited to make his playoff debut -- and to do it against the "legend of the Pittsburgh Steelers."

For their part, the Steelers say they won't be lulled into a belief that Tebowmania is just hype.

"As long as you win, that's all that matters," quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said. "That's what he does. He's a competitor and a winner."

Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey -- Tebow's college teammate at the University of Florida -- said he has seen enough of Tebow to know he is a legitimate player. "He breaks a lot of tackles. He can run really well. Whenever he scrambles around, he finds guys that are open. It works."

He remembers watching Tebow in the weight room at Florida -- sometimes scolded by strength and conditioning coaches to take it easy.

"They had to hold him back in the weight room," Pouncey said with a smile. "He would just go in there and bench-press and do stupid stuff. He's got to go in there and throw the ball on Saturdays."

But it is because of that hard work -- and Tebow's unorthodox talent -- that gave Pouncey few doubts about how Tebow would turn out as a pro.

"They're winning right now," Pouncey said. "They're in the playoffs. That's successful to me."

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fordfixer
01-05-2012, 03:26 AM
Should Tebow 'pull the trigger' vs. Steelers or stay on the conservative course?
Thursday, January 05, 2012
By Jeff Legwold, Denver Post
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Tim Tebow walks off the field Sunday in Denver after the Broncos lost to Kansas City, the Broncos third loss in their last four games of the regular season.

DENVER

Welcome to Tim Tebow's world.

On one side is a huge segment of the Tebow/Broncos nation that wants Tebow to "pull the trigger," as Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway put it this week. Just throw the Broncos out of their offensive funk.

And on the other is every coach of every team Tebow has played for, including John Fox, who have demanded Tebow not take too many chances and avoid turnovers at every turn.

In the middle is Tebow, currently in as difficult a three-game stretch as he has ever had at any level of competition, last among the league's starters in completion percentage and set to face the league's No. 1 defense Sunday in his first playoff start as he tries to find a way to be smart and aggressive before the week is out.

"That's just a feel thing, I think you get more comfortable with it over time," Tebow said Wednesday. "You've got to be aggressive, but at the same time you've got to be smart. It's something for a while we did a really good job with that. Got away from it the last couple weeks, but something we'll have to be really good at on Sunday."

Over the past two months, defenses have progressively gotten better particularly in the past three games -- all Broncos losses -- at keeping Tebow hemmed in. The result has been a 40 percent completion rate, with three lost fumbles and four interceptions.

Tebow also has looked hesitant to let the ball go as he attempts to limit turnovers, but his turnover total has increased. He has been unsettled when the Broncos needed to throw the ball.

Asked Wednesday if he was tentative in the 7-3 New Year's Day loss to the Chiefs, Tebow said: "I think there's a few opportunities I should have tried to force it in there, especially late in the game. Sometimes I do think I have to be more aggressive. I think that's definitely true. The more you get into tighter games, playoff games, the more you've got to be aggressive. You've also got to be smart, but you've also got to be aggressive and pull the trigger."

The run-first offense fueled a stretch in which the Broncos won seven of eight games to rebound from a 1-4 start. But with defenses now doing what they need to do to limit Tebow as a runner and pin him in the pocket, his production as a passer has suffered.

As a result there is public clamor to let Tebow put the ball in the air early and often with more short and intermediate routes so he can gain confidence.

"We're all in this together, we've got to put him in positions where he can succeed. He's the one out there throwing the ball," Fox said. "At the end of the day we'll try to give him some better pass plays to operate and we still have to execute them. I think we're just doing what we think gives us the best chance to win. And of late we've come up a little bit short, but we've put [ourselves] in a position to be one of the top 12."

"I don't think [throwing more short passes] is going to fix the problems," said wide receiver Matt Willis. "It's receivers getting open and catching the ball, it's not what routes we run, it's about making plays."

It is all a difficult line to walk -- between adjusting the play calling or targeting the execution. Most personnel executives around the league would say it's why accuracy -- completion percentage -- is one of the most important attributes a quarterback can have in today's NFL.

That's because the windows for completions are small and the ball must arrive on time and in the correct spot, whether the pass is long, short or something in between.

"[I'm] trying to be smart, not put our team in a bad position, because that's the quickest way to get your team out of a game," Tebow said. "Sometimes I do think I need to be more aggressive."

"I think the biggest thing in this league is to be unpredictable," said wide receiver Eric Decker. "Pass or run on first down, get 3, 4 yards, get second-and-short, allow ourselves more success."

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fordfixer
01-05-2012, 03:33 AM
Broncos' Tim Tebow says he'll be more aggressive vs. Steelers
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By Lindsay H. Jones
The Denver Post

It's a careful line Tim Tebow must walk this week as the Broncos play their first playoff game in six years.

After back-to-back poor passing performances, Tebow understands he must make better throws, and that means being more aggressive. But, after six turnovers in the team's three-game losing streak, Tebow knows he also can't make mistakes.

"The more you get into tighter games, playoff games, you've got to be aggressive," Tebow said today in his weekly media session at Dove Valley. "You also have to be smart but you have to be aggressive and pull the trigger at times. That's something we'll have to do."

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"It's trying to be smart and not put your team in a bad decision, because that's the fastest way to put your team out of a game," Tebow said. "Sometimes I do need to be more aggressive with certain routes and throws."

Tebow will have to test out that renewed sense of aggression in the passing game against a Pittsburgh defense that finished the regular season ranked No. 1 in total defense, as well as No. 1 against the pass.

"They're really good," Tebow said. "Sometimes it looks like it is chaos out there, but they know where they're going."

fordfixer
01-05-2012, 03:49 AM
enver Broncos playoff report: Tim Tebow needs to let loose, and not make mistakes
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ENGLEWOOD, Colo.—Tim Tebow finds himself walking a tightrope entering the playoffs.

On the one hand, he has been prone to turnovers, with four interceptions and three lost fumbles in a season-ending three-game losing streak.

On the other, there’s a coaching staff and executive VP John Elway telling him that he needs to cut loose and pull the trigger on throwing the ball.

Navigating that fine line is tough for the young quarterback, especially when faced with a Pittsburgh defense that is No. 1 overall in the NFL and first against the pass.

“The more you get into tighter games, playoff games, you’ve got to be aggressive,” said Tebow, who will be start his first playoff game. “You’ve also got to be smart, but you’ve got to be aggressive and pull the trigger at times.”
Tim Tebow has faced strong defenses before. The Steelers will ratchet up the pressure on him in Sunday's wild-card game.

As the mistakes have mounted, Tebow appeared hesitant at times cutting lose and throwing downfield, despite eight- and nine-man fronts daring him to pass to his receivers, mostly covered man-to-man.

In Sunday’s loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, Tebow went 6-for-22 for 60 yards with an interception and fumble.

“I think there were a few opportunities I should have tried to force it in there, especially later in the game,” Tebow said.

Still, while Tebow’s been erratic throwing the ball—with a 46.5 percent completion rate serving as proof—the coaching staff has been accused by some publicly of not allowing him enough short throws, particularly early in games, to try and establish a rhythm.

Receiver Eric Decker talked about trying to get that groove started early as one possible solution to the passing-game woes.

“We’re all in this together,” coach John Fox responded. “We have to put him in situations where he can succeed. He’s the one out there throwing the ball, and at the end of the day, we’ll try to give him some better pass plays to operate. He still has to execute.”

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hawaiiansteel
01-05-2012, 03:39 PM
Kovacevic: Tebow aces first playoff test

By Dejan Kovacevic, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, January 5, 2012


ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Tim Tebow leaned against a hallway wall outside the media room in the Denver Broncos' practice facility on Wednesday, baseball cap spun backward, chin and eyelids lowered, all alone with his thoughts.

For the moment, anyway.

Once he'd crossed that threshold, as he well knew, dozens of reporters and rows of cameras awaited. He'd field questions about the three-game losing streak he and his team will drag into their playoff game on Sunday against the Steelers. About how defenses have schemed to cut off his unorthodox strength as a rushing quarterback. About whether Tebowmania, Tebow Time and even the art of Tebowing -- his one-kneed prayer that's so popular one dictionary recently added it to the English language -- have faded forever.

All tough stuff.

And the man was humming.

No kidding. As I headed toward that room and passed Tebow, I distinctly made out some pleasant-sounding tune sneaking through closed -- and smiling -- lips.

"Hey, man," Tebow offered as a greeting to this total stranger in his surfer dude delivery.

If there remains any mystery as to how this 24-year-old has shrugged off doubters like defensive ends, how he undid all those deficits in that captivating 7-1 stretch, there it was: Nothing bothers him, no matter the setting, no matter the score.

He took his place at the podium and stiff-armed us all with optimism founded in his devout faith, wrapped in boyish charm and topped with the occasional wink.

• On the critical issue of his confidence after three miserable games: "Hey, this is exciting. What a great opportunity this is, and it's a blessing. I know it'll be a rocking environment Sunday, and it'll be a lot of fun."

• On the hideous 6-of-22, 60-yard showing last week in a 7-3 loss to Kansas City: "I had looks, but I needed to be more aggressive, put the ball in there when I have the chance. I've got to do that Sunday."

• On the losing streak that backed the offense-starved Broncos into the playoffs with an 8-8 record: "We just, as an offense, have to be balanced. We have to keep defenses guessing. If we do that, I think we'll have a good chance."

• On John Elway, the Broncos' Hall of Fame quarterback and executive vice president, saying he noticed a fresh intensity in Tebow in the past few days: "Really? He said that? Cool."

His only flub came when I asked if the Steelers' defense presented a special challenge, and he rattled off a few names that included "Rodney Harrison." The Rodney Harrison was a superb safety for New England. The Steelers' Harrison, of course, is James.

When I reminded Tebow of this and tossed in that Harrison isn't the guy any quarterback wants to tick off, Tebow playfully came back: "Yeah, I know."

The storefronts of Denver's famed 16th Street Mall downtown still feature more No. 15 jerseys than those of everyone else with the Broncos combined. And most fans here still speak hopefully -- to a degree -- of the former University of Florida star who somehow used his college style to steer the franchise into the playoffs for the first time since 2005.

"I still think he can get it done, but I'm not as sure anymore," said Ken Brown of Englewood, who attended Tebow's Kansas City debacle. "You look at how tentative he is with his throws now, how he's fumbling. You just don't have a good feeling going against the Steelers."

There are other signs that the mania has settled. SportsBook.com reported yesterday that 77 percent of the money is betting on the Steelers as the nine-point favorite. And two ticket resellers, NFL Ticket Exchange and StubHub, showed more than 11,000 tickets still being offered.

The skeptics have excellent reasons for feeling as they do. I'm hardly alone in predicting that the Steelers' defense -- especially Troy Polamalu, LaMarr Woodley and the correct Harrison -- will have its way with Tebow and the Broncos. All the numbers say so. All the recent history says so.

But what if?

What if Ben Roethlisberger is really as hobbled as he described yesterday, and the Steelers might not score much against a decent Denver defense?

What if Denver's past three losses were really like three bad quarters, and Tebow can still pull it out in the fourth?

You know, Tebow time.

I might not believe, you might not believe, and even the Broncos' coach might not have a firm grip on Tebow's confidence level right now.

"You have to ask him that," John Fox said yesterday. "But he's been in big spots before. He's brought us back all season long. I think he's a confident guy."

Hard not to believe at least that much.

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