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SanAntonioSteelerFan
12-05-2011, 03:34 PM
Historically - LeBeau brings the kitchen sink at QBs when we need our defense to make a play. This is especially so against rookie/inexperienced QBs.

Also - Over the last year or so, when we've done that, these young QBs have developed an irritating habit of looking like Joe Montana, and killing us with 1st down completions on 3rd and forever ... costing us a few games here and there.

Yesterday - rookie QB, in the past a situation guaranteed to see 5 or 6 or more coming at him like a freight train, over and over. But LeBeau instead chose to win by confusing him with coverage ...

I just don't recall LeBeau going that route very often. I wonder if it's a nod to the reality that we're not able to dial up the rushing pressure like we could a few years ago, and that gives the QB another moment or two to find the weak spot in our zone.

Or ... am I just totally off base?

What do you guys think ... ?

Oviedo
12-05-2011, 04:25 PM
What I have been seeing the past couple of games is that the DL is getting turned loose to go after the QB versus just occupying OLmen. Kiesel was a monster yesterday.

Our defense would really improve if our DL was given the greenlight to attack more often.

feltdizz
12-05-2011, 04:30 PM
We did the same thing vs Palko and plenty of fans on here complained that DL wasn't bringing pressure.

I thought the coverage sacks and lack of pressure was DL's mantra for rookies.

feltdizz
12-05-2011, 04:31 PM
What I have been seeing the past couple of games is that the DL is getting turned loose to go after the QB versus just occupying OLmen. Kiesel was a monster yesterday.

Our defense would really improve if our DL was given the greenlight to attack more often.

It's easy to pin your ears back when the score is 28 to 7 at half. In a close game it's harder to call pass rushes.

Oviedo
12-05-2011, 04:36 PM
What I have been seeing the past couple of games is that the DL is getting turned loose to go after the QB versus just occupying OLmen. Kiesel was a monster yesterday.

Our defense would really improve if our DL was given the greenlight to attack more often.

It's easy to pin your ears back when the score is 28 to 7 at half. In a close game it's harder to call pass rushes.


One could also argue that the way to make a game 28-7 is to attack the QB more consistently.

steelfin
12-05-2011, 07:53 PM
What I have been seeing the past couple of games is that the DL is getting turned loose to go after the QB versus just occupying OLmen. Kiesel was a monster yesterday.

Our defense would really improve if our DL was given the greenlight to attack more often.

It's easy to pin your ears back when the score is 28 to 7 at half. In a close game it's harder to call pass rushes.


One could also argue that the way to make a game 28-7 is to attack the QB more consistently.


One could also argue that the way to make a game 28-7 is for the offense to move the ball consistently and score touchdowns....

skyhawk
12-06-2011, 02:01 AM
Did anyone else notice that Keenan Lewis was the RCB for most of the game and not Gay? Gay was the nickel. Another LeBeau shift!!

Steel Life
12-06-2011, 02:09 AM
And Cortez Allen subbing in for Clark too...

hawaiiansteel
12-06-2011, 02:19 AM
And Cortez Allen subbing in for Clark too...


"The Steelers have been looking for ways to get talented rookie corner Cortez Allen into their dime package and may have found it.

They brought safety Ryan Clark off the field at times in the dime in favor or Allen, giving them four corners and Troy Polamalu on the field at the same time.

That's a lot of coverage."

posted by Dale Lolley

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

MicroBioSteel
12-06-2011, 02:29 AM
My sense it that Lebeau is realizing that our LBs just don't have the juice to pass rush for the entire game. Dropping them into zone coverage can keep them fresh longer so that they can dial it up when they need to in the 4th Q.

Discipline of Steel
12-06-2011, 07:29 AM
I would say that the game plan shifts from game to game based on the team we are going against. St. LeBeau makes adjustments! Now if we were to continue seeing it I might be more inclined to call it a 'Doctrine Shift'.

Once is an occurence, twice is a coincidence, three times is a trend.

aggiebones
12-06-2011, 10:46 AM
He doesn't necessarily throw the kitchen sink unless he's already gotten to the QB that week and thinks he can completely squash his confidence.
If you are having trouble getting to the QB its foolish to keep wasting extra guys while making WRs wide open. Good QBs can release the ball before a defensive player can get to him, even with a free run. There has always needed to be an element of surprise.