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WindyCitySteel
11-16-2011, 08:57 PM
Luck is having a lesser year at Stanford after he left, while Alex Smith is having a career year.

Coincidence?

SteelCrazy
11-16-2011, 09:00 PM
Coincidence?

I think not

RuthlessBurgher
11-16-2011, 09:14 PM
Luck is having a lesser year at Stanford after he left, while Alex Smith is having a career year.

Coincidence?

This year, Luck is completing 70.6% of his passes, with 29 TD's and 7 INT's.

Last year, Luck completed 70.7% of his passes, with 32 TD's and 8 INT's.

If that's a lesser year, we should all have lesser years. I see no dropoff post-Harbaugh.

steelblood
11-16-2011, 09:17 PM
Luck is having a lesser year at Stanford after he left, while Alex Smith is having a career year.

Coincidence?

This year, Luck is completing 70.6% of his passes, with 29 TD's and 7 INT's.

Last year, Luck completed 70.7% of his passes, with 32 TD's and 8 INT's.

If that's a lesser year, we should all have lesser years. I see no dropoff post-Harbaugh.

Luck is still playing great ball. His game against USC was fantastic. He struggled a little against Oregon mostly because Owusu is injured.

Chavezz
11-16-2011, 09:54 PM
No.

Hope that helps.

WindyCitySteel
11-16-2011, 10:13 PM
OK, I'm nitpicking to make a point, but his INT pct is up and YPA is down.

Great job with Smith, though. The guy has been a career turd to this point.

hawaiiansteel
11-16-2011, 10:21 PM
Jim Harbaugh is a mean bully...

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n488/jimrat204/Picture3-10.png

Shoe
11-16-2011, 10:28 PM
I don't know if he is a QB guru, but he's clearly a heckuva coach. I think Alex Smith's "success" if you want to call it that, is more of Harbaugh's excellent management as much as anything else.

Still, for any Steeler fan, this team (the Niners) reminds them of the 90's teams... I don't think they're even quite as good defensively, and probably equal running game-wise. Both every year, we'd be left holding the bag, with Neil O'Donnell or Kordell. Especially Neil (becuase Kordell wasn't the same type of QB). With a limited QB like Neil/Alex, I think you can only go so far.

WindyCitySteel
11-16-2011, 10:39 PM
Still, for any Steeler fan, this team (the Niners) reminds them of the 90's teams... I don't think they're even quite as good defensively, and probably equal running game-wise. Both every year, we'd be left holding the bag, with Neil O'Donnell or Kordell. Especially Neil (becuase Kordell wasn't the same type of QB). With a limited QB like Neil/Alex, I think you can only go so far.

Agree about the comparison to the Steelers of the 90's. And let's hope that they go at least as far as the Super Bowl against the Steelers. It would be sweet to get #7 against that franchise.

Keyplay1
11-17-2011, 04:12 PM
I don't know if he is a QB guru, but he's clearly a heckuva coach. I think Alex Smith's "success" if you want to call it that, is more of Harbaugh's excellent management as much as anything else.

Still, for any Steeler fan, this team (the Niners) reminds them of the 90's teams... I don't think they're even quite as good defensively, and probably equal running game-wise. Both every year, we'd be left holding the bag, with Neil O'Donnell or Kordell. Especially Neil (becuase Kordell wasn't the same type of QB). With a limited QB like Neil/Alex, I think you can only go so far.

:Agree I have been waiting a couple weeks for a thread like this so I could make the following statement. " Who says Cowher is not going to coach again, there he is in San Francisco."

We have seen Frisco 2-3 times in our area this season and that similarity to the 90 teams stood out. I don't know how far they can go but they have become interesting to watch.

Even though Cowher and Harbaugh are completely different in both backgrounds and probably temperament you can't help but notice the similarity of style in the play of the Niners to the 90's Steelers.

Well we do get them in week 15. They already have wins over Cleveland and @Cinci. They get Bal in wk 12. Too bad Bal gets the 1st crack at them but who knows they could be 3-0 when we see them. That would be very interesting.

One thing though, Bill Cowher came in 92 and in a couple or three years replaced the entire front seven except for Gregg Lloyd and added Darren Perry in the secondary. I think Harbaugh is way ahead of this in that their D is pretty much in place with numerous high picks in recent years. Hmm! Many including me are still not taking them serious however. Maybe we should be.

Yeah, I can see how someone, anyone might want to compare this 49er team to some of the Steeler teams of the 90's by positional strength, stats, play selection etc. Uhh! Looking forward to seeing this the week we play them. :D :D

feltdizz
11-18-2011, 02:04 PM
Luck is having a lesser year at Stanford after he left, while Alex Smith is having a career year.

Coincidence?

This year, Luck is completing 70.6% of his passes, with 29 TD's and 7 INT's.

Last year, Luck completed 70.7% of his passes, with 32 TD's and 8 INT's.

If that's a lesser year, we should all have lesser years. I see no dropoff post-Harbaugh.

Luck is still playing great ball. His game against USC was fantastic. He struggled a little against Oregon mostly because Owusu is injured.

Luck had a pretty easy schedule this year... If he had a decent game against Oregon I would think more of him but right now it's power running and 10 yard passes to TE's.

I know the WR is hurt but I think Luck is getting a too much love given his competition.

Sugar
11-18-2011, 02:18 PM
IDK if he's a guru or not, but anybody who automatically put our game against them in the "W" column needs to reassess. The good news is that the 49er's now have a good body of tape to look at. We won't be able to say that they snuck up on us, that's for sure.

Keyplay1
11-19-2011, 02:14 PM
One thing no one is mentioning much is that Jim Harbaugh played most of his career in the 90's and at QB for several teams. It should not be a big surprise that someone with a whole lot of QB expertise might be successful at developing young QB's. Look at what our ex- QB coach from the early 2000's is doing at Green Bay. Yeah, that one. The guy that QB coached Elvis Grbac and Kordell Stewart into the pro bowl. [I consider that feat at least at the level of a mini-miracle] :wft

Those that remember seeing Harbaugh play might think there are some similarities between him and his QB now. Good but not exceptional arm strength, reasonably accurate and pretty mobile and athletic. These type QB's when they possess extreme accuracy can win championships. IDT Smith has enough of these qualities but they are winning games and he is the QB. Actually, I think Harbaugh believes he played a decade or so too early.

Slapstick
11-19-2011, 08:05 PM
IDK if he's a guru or not, but anybody who automatically put our game against them in the "W" column needs to reassess. The good news is that the 49er's now have a good body of tape to look at. We won't be able to say that they snuck up on us, that's for sure.

You seem to think a lot of fans on this board automatically assume the Steelers will win every week when, for the most part, that is not the case...

Ever since I watched a rookie Barry Foster let a kickoff roll dead at the 5 yard line, I've never assumed a trip to San Fran is a win...

Same thing with Seattle...

DukieBoy
11-20-2011, 08:53 PM
Luck is having a lesser year at Stanford after he left, while Alex Smith is having a career year.

Coincidence?

Why does he look like Charlie Sheen?

Coincidence?