OT: Apparently being a jerk in the Harbaugh DNA

[Steel Life]

Harbaugh, Schwartz get into post-game scuffle
Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2011, 4:52 PM EDT
Detroit Lions head coach Jim Schwartz yells from the sideline during the first half of their NFL football game against the San Francisco 76ers in Detroit Reuters

After the 49ers came back to beat the Lions and the Lions failed in their last-ditch effort to pull out the game, San Fran coach Jim Harbaugh was fired up.

A little too fired up for the liking of Lions coach Jim Schwartz.

Harbaugh was celebrating the win as he crossed the field and exchanged a perfunctory handshake with Schwartz, before Harbaugh continued to celebrate. Schwartz initially ignored Harbaugh, but then Schwartz ran to catch up with Harbaugh, bumping into Harbaugh while generally barking at Harbaugh without challenging him face to face.

The pair was then separated, but Schwartz kept going after Harbaugh. More and more people got involved to keep Schwartz for bashing his face repeatedly into the former NFL quarterback’s fists.

Given that Schwartz actually made contact with Harbaugh, Schwartz could be subject to a find. We’re in the process of trying to sort it all out.

Can't wait to see the Harbaugh boys go at it if it's rout for either team...

[Chavezz]

I saw that. Both a couple of D-Bags.

[hawaiiansteel]

very unprofessional behavior on Harbaugh's part, I don't blame Schwartz for going after him.


Schwartz says he was subjected to post-game shove, obscenity

Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2011

Lions coach Jim Schwartz addressed the media after Sunday’s loss to the 49ers, and the first question related to the post-game scuffle between the two head coaches.

Said Schwartz: “I went to congratulate [Jim] Harbaugh and got shoved out of the way. . . . I didn’t expect an obscenity at that point.”

Schwartz declined to say who shoved him or shouted the obscenity, but given the manner in which Schwartz answered the question, it’s pretty clear that Schwartz at least thinks it was Harbaugh.

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[Steelers>NFL]

It was kinda funny.

[Ozey74]

Harbaugh's are very easy to dislike.

[hawaiiansteel]

League will review Harbaugh-Schwartz confrontation

Posted by Mike Florio on October 16, 2011

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That post-game brouhaha between Lions coach Jim Schwartz and 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh has attracted the attention of many people.

It also has attracted the attention of the league office.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells PFT that the incident will be reviewed on Monday. A key issue, Aiello said, is whether and to what extent there was physical contact.

If so, that’s bad news for Schwartz, who appeared to bump Harbaugh at least once. Harbaugh also could be in hot water; one of the FOX camera angles seems to show Harbaugh giving Schwartz a push in the back after that exuberant handshake.

Discipline imposed, if any, would likely fall under the personal conduct policy, which prohibits among other things “violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace.”

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[AngryAsian]

It appeared to be simultaneous combo of firm handshake, pull of that same are with a back slap... Schwartz exacerbated the situation by going after him... should make for an interesting playoff scenario if these two teams meet in the playoffs. Nice to watch a very tight football game played and then an MMA match breaksout. :Boobs

[steelblood]

Harbaugh acted like an idiot and his handshake was disrespectful (in the least). When the game ends, the coach needs to stop celebrating and shake hands in an acceptable manner. This is coaching 101. After handshaking, celebration can continue.

Schwartz acted like a maniac. His behavior was over the top. I also question whether he really wanted a physical confrontation or if he was simply posturing. It certainly did not look like he had any intention of actually fighting only running around crazy and bumping folks. He looked like a giant tool.

[hawaiiansteel]

NFL gets it wrong on Harbaugh-Schwartz incident

Posted by Mike Florio on October 17, 2011

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The NFL moved swiftly to resolve the Harbaugh-Schwartz fracas at Ford Field. The outcome suggests that the league wanted to swiftly sweep it all under the rug.

The dominant story from Sunday’s Week Six games would have gotten only bigger if the NFL had fined the coach of the 49ers or the coach of the Lions, or both, after Sunday’s embarrassing pushing-and-shoving incident. And so the league, more concerned about the short-term P.R. hit than bigger picture concepts of fairness, consistency, and most importantly the example set for all persons associated with football at every level, opted to wag a finger at the two men, extract a promise to behave going forward, and issue a warning that any further incidents will trigger punishment.

Whether or not an fists were swung shouldn’t matter. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told PFT on Sunday that a key issue will be whether and to what extent there was physical contact. Surely, there was, from both coaches.

For players, fines have been imposed for actual fights, before or during games. But players also get routinely fined for far less problematic conduct, like sending out tweets from the locker room or not wearing the right socks or playing the game too aggressively or accidentally grabbing someone’s facemask or celebrating in a way that the league deems inappropriate. How can the league fine players for that kind of behavior and not find a pair of Jims who were acting more like Hacksaw Jim Duggan?

Sunday’s incident occurred because the one on-field member of the 49ers who should be able to control his emotions failed, and he celebrated in a way that Jim Schwartz deemed inappropriate. Schwartz was right, and then he was wrong to chase Harbaugh down, shove him, and spark a full-blown brouhaha with a clumsy chase of Harbaugh, which at one point looked like it should have been accompanied by shouts of, “Hold me back! Hold me back!”

The NFL supposedly has sufficient concern regarding the sanctity of the shield that it will fine and suspend players who get in trouble on their own time. Currently, the league is trying to suspend Bengals running back Cedric Benson four games for something that happened at a time when the league had locked him out. To give that desire to protect the league’s image any credibility, the league’s only option was to punish the two coaches.

The decision to turn the page by not issuing any discipline sends a troubling message to the league’s players. Coaches are supposed to be held to a higher standard. In this case, they weren’t.

Meanwhile, more than a few players inevitably will be informed this week that they have been fined for actions that pale in comparison to the spectacle that Harbaugh and Schwartz created on Sunday.

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[fezziwig]

I believe I read Harbaughlips tell him to get the F away from me . Anyway the way I seen it was, Harbaugh was overly pumped up and got to aggressive with the handshake and pat on the back and nothing more. Possibly he made a smart asss comment or curse word right afterwards that, may have added to the anger of Schwartz when he felt he got manhandled a little too much.

It was only when Schawrtz went after him that I read his lips but, he may have said something after the handshake and while walking away.

The Harbaughs in my opinion are whinny punks to start with that show little class when things don't go their way. Schwartz on the other hand over reacted.

[Dee Dub]

What has happened to the men of our world? To the game of football? Unprofessional? Disresptectful? They should be fined?

I dont think I could have grown up in this era.

Man up! :roll:

[kennyes]

Anyone else remember about 10 or 15 years ago Jim Harbaugh and Jim Kelly were calling a game. I assume it was a college game, of course. I don't remember the details, but I do remember two of them getting in an disagreement and apparently Harbaugh threw a haymaker at Jim Kelly during a commercial break. No footage ever shown but talked about on sports radio. Regardless, He must of said something to pizz off Schwartz. I dought Schwartz would of went after him unless something extremely cocky or distasteful was said. I believe Harbaugh to be one cocky douche!

[DukieBoy]

Saw Harbaugh talking about it on TV last night, apparently at a press conference. Strangely, he reminded me of Charlie Sheen, both in his physical presentation and in his speaking about the incident.

[Oviedo]

I don't see it as any different than the "showboating" and "camera grabbing" that Cowher use to do on the sidelines that I don't miss one bit.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I look forward to the Harbaugh brothers beating the crap out of each other following their Thanksgiving night showdown.

[Steelers>NFL]

I don't see it as any different than the "showboating" and "camera grabbing" that Cowher use to do on the sidelines that I don't miss one bit.

I for one, do miss Cowher. :(

[hawaiiansteel]

Monday, October 17, 2011

by Mark Madden


When San Francisco Coach Jim Harbaugh and Detroit Coach Jim Schwartz shared a very angry moment at the conclusion of the 49ers' victory Sunday. my first thought was, "Chuck Noll would never do something like that."

How quickly I forgot.

The legendary Steelers coach and Cincinnati boss Sam "Wicky-wacky" Wyche often failed to execute the post-game handshake. In 1987, Noll got extremely heated with Houston Coach Jerry Glanville (click on video link below):

http://youtu.be/PwnhJqcNMCs

Perhaps the most honest thing would be if football ditched the post-game handshake. It's trite, to say nothing of phony and forced. What's a split-second of sportsmanship after 60 minutes of cutthroat?

Say this for Noll: He never pulled up his shirt and celebrated with belly-bumps. Harbaugh acted like he just won the Little League World Series.

Juvenile.

http://www.1059thex.com/pages/supergeni ... le=9265873 (http://www.1059thex.com/pages/supergenius.html?article=9265873)