View Full Version : Tomlin doesn't like q/a about the Jags-Steelers playoff game

10-12-2011, 06:38 PM
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Caused a stir with a tweet earlier about Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin hanging up on us during the conference call, so here's a little context to it.

First, understand, the playoff game between the Steelers and the Jaguars that followed the 2007 season had big implications for this franchise.

The Jaguars 31-29 win was Jack Del Rio's only playoff win as a head coach and followed a season when the Jaguars went 11-5 and thought they had a defense that was just a few pieces away from winning a championship.

After the season, Del Rio got a four year, $21 million extension, David Garrard was awarded the richest contract in franchise history, a six-year extension worth $60 million and the Jaguars traded seven draft picks to move up in the first and second round to take Derrick Harvey and Quentin Groves, neither of whom are still on the team.

It was a season that heavily impacted the Jaguars future, and that game that had a lot to do with it.

You'll read that story in a few places this week. So, when the Steelers called in for Tomlin's conference call with Jacksonville beat writers, it came up.

Now, Tomlin has a testy history with us, specifically my colleague Vito Stellino. It's something we laugh about and something he's laughed about with us in the past. It all started back in 2007, during the regular season game, when Stellino asked Tomlin a question about the running game that Tomlin objected to. As Stellino recalls, he asked Tomlin something along the lines of "What's the problem with the running game? The Steelers have been running the ball for 50 years."

So today's conference call began with Tomlin being asked if he remembered Stellino and Tomlin replying that he "unfortunately" did.

Chuckles all around.

We asked about the Steelers run defense. We asked about Ben Roethlisberger, we asked if the age of his defense was a concern. Then, another reporter (it wasn't Stellino), the Associated Press's Mark Long, asked if he had any memories from the playoff game after the 2007 season.

"Not really," Tomlin said. "I remember David Garrard of course on the draw on fourth down. That's one of those plays you'll never forget. It was a big play."

It was a very big play, and one on which officials missed a holding call. In March at the league meetings Mike Pereira, then the league's vice president of officiating, said officials missed the holding call.

As a follow up, and here's where it got testy, Long asked if he sent the play to the league office.

"No," Tomlin said.

Why not?

"Why would I?"

Wasn't there a questionable non-call on that play? Holding?

"Guys, come on man. I'm not going to cry over four-year-old spilled milk. Anybody got any legitimate questions? Goll-lly," Tomlin said, clearly perturbed.

We chuckled, but Tomlin didn't. So Long tried to explain it was a big game from a Jacksonville standpoint and that's why he was asking.

"Guys, that was four years ago," Tomlin said. "I understand that might have been a big game in Jacksonville but that's old news. Many of those guys are no longer here and definitely many of the guys that were in Jacksonville are no longer there. Anybody got any questions relative to this week?"

Three seconds passed and Vito began to ask a question, but Tomlin jumped in before he could finish his question.

"Thank you, have a good one."

Here are some comments from Jags fans:

By Bottomline | 10/12/11 - 05:39 pm I don't blame Tomlin for getting perturbed. It was old news and has absolutely no bearing on this week's game. The media needs to be more concerned about the present rather than an old game. It would be more relevant to ask Jack Del Rio how has his coaching changed since 2007 and why can't we get that sort of performance out of the Jaguars today. I am not a Steelers fan but you have to respect their ability to field a playoff caliber team every year. Is there a former Steelers coach available to bring back the Jaguars glory years? Oh yeah, that Cowher guy is out there. Maybe we should consider paying him tons of money to reinvigorate our team.

By circlingthecarcass | 10/12/11 - 05:58 pm Okay, where you go'n here?
We're not now going to blame the Steelers for our bloated salaries for Garrard and JDR are we?
Or their contract extensions?
And the past 3 mediocre years?
I'm sure the Jags are thanking you for re-visiting this bit of ancient history.......like they really need to buckle it up against a PO'ed Steelers team.
I'm not thrilled with the team's performance.....but I do consider this piling-on by the local media.
Aren't there enough questions surrounding this years team to keep ya busy?
I think Pittsburg's motto is "no excuses".....ours is/was GO TIME.

By auntsusan | 10/12/11 - 06:05 pm Pittsburg knows this game will be a freebie to the steelers. Right not the sad jags have no clue about anything shown by cutting the punter when the jags have 7 3 and outs. At that point, who cares about the punter.

The jags house is on fire and the jags are hiring security guards to direct traffic instead of doing anything to put out the fire.

By Rasputin1906 | 10/12/11 - 06:18 pm One of the best coaches and organizations in the league. Jacksonville Journalists are dwelling on the past by asking stupid questions about one playoff game.

Politics have made American Citizens lazy thinkers.

10-13-2011, 05:25 PM
About that Mike Tomlin/Jacksonville Media Nonsense

Posted on October 13, 2011 by adam

This is so stupid.

Mike Tomlin made news on Wednesday because he hung up on the Jacksonville media during a conference call. The problems started early in the call when one reporter kept asking questions about the 2007 playoff game between the Steelers and Jaguars, which Jacksonville won, even though Tomlin made it clear he didn’t want to talk about a game that happened four years ago. And for good reason.

Tomlin has bigger and better things to worry about (like a game on Sunday). But they (or, more accurately, one AP reporter) refused to let up and continued to hammer away at it. Tomlin, who has no time or patience for tomfoolery during his press conferences (possible exception: Santa Claus, but even then he became annoyed by the end, and Jolly Old Saint Nick has yet to make a return appearance) finally asked if there were any relevant questions regarding the upcoming game before hanging up on the call.

This has led to quite the story over the past 24 hours, and it seems to be focussed on how Tomlin is still so upset about a game from four years ago that he hung up on people when asked about it.

First, here’s the Jacksonville angle on the story from Tani Ganguli of the Florida Times Union, where she identifies the reporter as a writer for the AP, and how the conversation, brief as it was, seemed to be pointed at making Tomlin complain about a missed holding call on David Garrard’s fourth-down scramble that set up the game-winning field goal, while the Jacksonville media had some laughs about it. Funny thing is, nearly every comment on that article is in support of Tomlin.

After digging around the Internet, here’s an AP story on the call, which I can only guess was penned by the reporter in question. Check out this excerpt:

The NFL later acknowledged that the officiating crew missed the call.

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin got testy when asked about the game Wednesday and even hung up on Jacksonville reporters during a conference call.

“That’s one of those plays that you’ll never forget,” Tomlin said. “It was a big play.”

Presented in that context it appears that Tomlin is still upset about the non-call and is still complaining about it four years later.

But let’s look at the actual conversation and exchange as it happened, as presented by Mike Bires of the Beaver County Times:

Q: This is Jacksonville’s first game up in Pittsburgh since the 2008 playoff game. Any memories of that playoff game?

TOMLIN: Not really. I remember David Garrard of course on the draw on fourth down. That’s one of those plays that you’ll never forget. It was a big play.

Q: Did you send tape of that play to league office?


Q: Why not?

TOMLIN: Why would I?

Q: Wasn’t there a questionable non-call holding on that play?

TOMLIN: Guys, come on man. I’m not going to cry over 4-year-old spilt milk. Anybody got any legitimate questions?

Q: It was a big game from Jacksonville’s standpoint.

TOMLIN: Guys, that was four years ago. I understand that might have been a big game in Jacksonville four years ago but that’s old news. Many of those guys are no longer here and definitely many of the guys that were in Jacksonville are no longer there. Anybody got any questions relative to this week?

Totally different context, yes?

And that’s when Tomlin hung up on them. And for good reason.

This is why players and coaches hate dealing with the media. Pick a completely irrelevant story line (in this case, one that’s four years old), continue to try and hammer away at it when the subject has made it clear he doesn’t want to talk about it, and then frame what quotes he does give you completely out of context so it fits your story.

The lesson here: Don’t come into a pre-game press conference with questions about a game from four years ago.

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Eddie Spaghetti
10-13-2011, 06:11 PM
i wouldn't want to talk about it either if i was tomlin.

that decision to go for 2 from the 12 was one of the dumbest coaching decisions that i have ever seen.

10-13-2011, 06:21 PM
i wouldn't want to talk about it either if i was tomlin.

that decision to go for 2 from the 12 was one of the dumbest coaching decisions that i have ever seen.

Four years and 2 Superbowls later I have forgot about it. Thanks for reminding us :moon