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SanAntonioSteelerFan
10-10-2011, 01:49 PM
Dependable 3rd down back with good hands and a good head on his shoulder, that's what I think the line on him is.

With half the people on the board saying Mendy should be our #1 back, and the other half saying nah, Mendy's still #1, but put REDman in on 3rd downs, especially near the goal line ...

Where does that leave Mewelde?

chiken
10-10-2011, 01:57 PM
puts him hoping that Batch doesnt come back healthy

phillyesq
10-10-2011, 02:15 PM
Moore is a fine utility back. He doesn't have blazing speed and he isn't exceptional at any one aspect of the game, but he can be effective as a third down back, and surprisingly effective running the ball when given a few carries.

You can never have too much depth at running back. Moore won't be an all-pro, but he can contribute when called upon.

SteelBucks
10-10-2011, 02:29 PM
Moore is a fine utility back. He doesn't have blazing speed and he isn't exceptional at any one aspect of the game, but he can be effective as a third down back, and surprisingly effective running the ball when given a few carries.

You can never have too much depth at running back. Moore won't be an all-pro, but he can contribute when called upon.

:Agree

LouSteel
10-10-2011, 09:44 PM
puts him hoping that Batch doesnt come back healthy

:lol:

For this year, I like him where he is: a solid #3 that does what he needs to do.

I'm not sold on Dwyer at all. Ignore one long run that was all thanks to the blocking, and he was running 3.1 YPC -- not bad, but not stellar.

I think Redman should start next game with Mendy as the #2. Let them fight it out, with Moore as the #3.

Next year, though, I don't think he makes the roster. if Batch comes back healthy (and I really hope he does!), he & Dwyer will compete for the #3...

... of course, I'm still hoping we trade Mendy for next year, and maybe Moore sticks around... but I'm not holding my breath ;)

Shoe
10-10-2011, 09:48 PM
It's no burden keeping him on the roster. I imagine he's cheap, he's a team player, he knows his assignments... I guess the only thing against him is that he doesn't run down on special teams.

fordfixer
10-10-2011, 10:09 PM
Reserves Issac Redman, Jonathan Dwyer kickstart Steelers' running game
By Will Graves, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/reserves-issac ... 38594.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/reserves-issac-redman-jonathan-dwyer-kickstart-steelers-running-213038594.html)

PITTSBURGH, Pa. - Ben Roethlisberger joked with running back Issac Redman before the Pittsburgh Steelers faced Tennessee on Sunday that nobody knows where Bowie State — Redman's alma mater — is located.

Maybe they do now.

The third-year back from the small school in Maryland helped kickstart Pittsburgh's sagging running game in a 38-17 thrashing of the Titans. While Redman's numbers weren't particularly eye-popping — he rushed for 49 yards on 15 carries — it was the way he ran that left the biggest impression.

Sticking his six-foot, 230-pound frame into tight spaces between the tackles, Redman's churning legs kept the Steelers (3-2) moving.

"I told (Redman) the numbers probably weren't indicative of how we played," Roethlisberger said. "He did such a good job running the ball and picking up blitzes.

"To me that's what I expect from him."

It was the kind of performance the Steelers needed after the running game was stuck in neutral for the first month of the season. The injury ravaged offensive line has struggled to open holes and starter Rashard Mendenhall has been unable to find the holes that let him top 1,000 yards in each of the last two seasons.

Mendenhall tweaked his hamstring in a loss to Houston a week ago and veteran Mewelde Moore spent the week in a walking boot with a leg injury. It forced the Steelers to turn to Redman and second-year back Jonathan Dwyer against the Titans, who came in with the top scoring defence in the league.

Though Mendenhall was available, Redman and Dwyer made sure he could spend the afternoon on the sun-splashed sideline at Heinz Field.

"We didn't need him," coach Mike Tomlin said. "The thought there was if we can get out of here not utilizing him, it would benefit him in the long run and for us it would be better.

"Thankfully we were able to do that."

And the Steelers were able to get back to basics as Tomlin promised.

Redman lacks Mendenhall's variety of moves. That's not what the team needed from him on Sunday. He worked effectively while going straight up the middle, extending a couple of plays by rolling over tacklers and keeping his legs moving.

"It was put up or shut up," Redman said. "Last week was not a performance that we wanted to lay out there.

"And this week, we knew we had to bounce back."

Redman has thrived during the preseason since the Steelers signed up as a rookie free agent in 2009. Yet his touches during the regular season have been limited in part to Mendenhall's maturation and Redman's own battles with conditioning.

Tomlin has been on Redman repeatedly about staying in shape, and he looked fresh late while posting a career high in carries. Redman could have toted it more if not for the surprising play of Dwyer, who entered the game with a whopping 28 rushing yards on his career.

The former Georgia Tech star nearly tripled that number on a single play in the second quarter, taking a handoff from Roethlisberger and sprinting 76 yards down the sideline to set up on of Roethlisberger's five touchdown passes.

The run was the longest by a Steeler since Willie Parker dashed the same distance against the Saints five years ago.

Dwyer finished with 107 yards on 11 carries and opted to give credit to the offensive line that featured left tackle Max Starks — who started five days after signing with his old team.

"They answered the bell," Dwyer said. "They answered the challenge that everybody gave them.

"They showed the league what we're about."

And Dwyer and Redman showed they can be just as effective when the ball isn't in their hands, protecting Roethlisberger when the Titans blitzed and helping give him enough time to throw for five scores for the second time in his career while getting sacked just once.

The Steelers ran for 174 yards as a team, the most since racking up 206 yards against Buffalo last season. They controlled the ball over 32 minutes and played the kind of physical game they've lacked most of the season.

Mendenhall will likely be back Sunday when the Steelers face Jacksonville. If he can't go, however, the Steelers are hardly concerned.

Their young backs showed they can handle the workload and the revamped line appears to be getting its sea legs just in time.

"What this does for us, I think, is set us up for the rest of the season," offensive lineman Ramon Foster said. "We've found out through five games who can play where on the O-line and what we can do if we're healthy, what we can do even if we're not completely healthy, for that matter."
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steeler_fan_in_t.o.
10-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Dependable 3rd down back with good hands and a good head on his shoulder, that's what I think the line on him is.

With half the people on the board saying Mendy should be our #1 back, and the other half saying nah, Mendy's still #1, but put REDman in on 3rd downs, especially near the goal line ...

Where does that leave Mewelde?

Third down back who is a good receiver out of the backfield and a good little blocker in pass protection. Plus a quick back who can get a nice jump if the play is a draw.

flippy
10-11-2011, 09:07 PM
3rd down is the most critical down in football. And Moore is the best on 3rd down. Yinz are seriously underrating his value.

If you want to cut a vet, start with a guy like Battle.

There's some other aging vets that may go away sooner than Moore.

Moore is still able to do what he does at a very high level. You just don't get rid of that. Plus Moore's likely the guy on the field in the hurry up O if/when we run it. And that's a critical role as well.

Discipline of Steel
10-11-2011, 10:57 PM
3rd down is the most critical down in football. And Moore is the best on 3rd down. Yinz are seriously underrating his value.

If you want to cut a vet, start with a guy like Battle.

There's some other aging vets that may go away sooner than Moore.

Moore is still able to do what he does at a very high level. You just don't get rid of that. Plus Moore's likely the guy on the field in the hurry up O if/when we run it. And that's a critical role as well.

:Agree Lets not get too excited.

Take away Dwyers big run and last weeks heros only averaged about 3 yards per carry.

Pahn711
10-12-2011, 01:17 AM
3rd down is the most critical down in football. And Moore is the best on 3rd down. Yinz are seriously underrating his value.

If you want to cut a vet, start with a guy like Battle.

There's some other aging vets that may go away sooner than Moore.

Moore is still able to do what he does at a very high level. You just don't get rid of that. Plus Moore's likely the guy on the field in the hurry up O if/when we run it. And that's a critical role as well.

:Agree Don't forget, one of the major reasons the Steelers originally brought Moore in was
his hands as a receiver out of the backfield. He has made enough plays in that limited role to have payed off, I'd say. I mean, I certainly haven't seen enough of Redman or Dwyer to think they deserve to replace him in that regard.

hawaiiansteel
10-13-2011, 02:11 AM
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Posted on October 13, 2011 by ted

Isaac Redman ran violent and about as hard as any Pittsburgh running back since Jerome Bettis. Moreover, he showed that backs probably need to go North-South quickly and more often behind this offensive line. As I said before the season, Redman deserves more playing time and should be a legitimate No. 2 back. But Pittsburgh fans now calling for him to start over a healthy Reshard Mendenhall are forgetting that Mendenhall is a complete, above-average back in all facets of the game who rushed for 2,381 yards and averaged 4.2 yards per carry behind a subpar offensive line the last two seasons. Despite his great efforts on Sunday, Redman averaged 3.3 yards per carry, so please do not get carried away. Jonathan Dwyer also had an impressive 76-yard run and made a special-teams tackle, but he does not offer the versatility of skills as the Steelers’ other three backs, which is why he will like be de-activated again after Mendenhall and Mewelde Moore return from injury.

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/10/2 ... -bad-road/ (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/10/2011-steelers-simply-great-home-bad-road/)

Pahn711
10-13-2011, 02:26 AM
Steelers Lounge
Posted on October 13, 2011 by ted
As I said before the season, Redman deserves more playing time and should be a legitimate No. 2 back. But Pittsburgh fans now calling for him to start over a healthy Reshard Mendenhall are forgetting that Mendenhall is a complete, above-average back in all facets of the game who rushed for 2,381 yards and averaged 4.2 yards per carry behind a subpar offensive line the last two seasons.
http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/10/2 ... -bad-road/ (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/10/2011-steelers-simply-great-home-bad-road/)

Wasn't he already the "legitimate" No. 2 back? Or is the author just implying that Redman should be getting more snaps? Most second string backs don't get many carries if the guy in front of them is a premiere running back.

Is it so out of the question that Mendenhall could change his running tendencies to go more North-South and thus have more success?