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rockonsteel
10-03-2011, 08:38 PM
Just some numbers to ponder at the quarter pole mark.

- And the Pittsburgh Steelers defense has 1 turnover to show for it. And that's starting to look like it was a fluke. A lucky forced fumble against Curtis Painter is all that seperates the Steelers from a goose egg in this dept.

-And the secondary has 0 interceptions and probably not many more PDs. The Bills had 4 ints. against Tom Brady in last week's game alone. When is the last team we've seen a Steelers corner make a play like Ladarius Webb made in the Ravens game last night? Think we have to go all the way back to '06 when Deshea picked off Brady for a pick 6, when we smashed the Pats that year. That's a pretty damn long time.

- And the defense has a grand total of 7 sacks. They had 5 against Seatlle. That's pretty pathetic, wouldn't you say? They are getting absolutely no pressure on QBsat all.

- And Lamar Woodley has become the latest milk carton victim. What is this guy in the witness protection program? 1 meaningless sack at the end of the Ravens game, and a half sack against Seattle. Not exactly what I would call earning your money.

- And ditto for Lawrence Timmons, who must be wearing camoflauge, because it's hard to find him on the field, and he's making 0 impact.

- And Ben Roethlisberger has 5 ints., 4 lost fumbles and has been sacked 14 times already for a total of 100 yds. loss. That's a full football field of negative yards against the QB, and that doesn't include int. return yds.

- And Rashard Mendenhall has just over 170 yds. rushing. That amounts to a little over 10 yds. a quarter. Whoa!!

- And the Steelers have scored all of 64 points in 4 games. That includes 1 defensive td, a result of the fluky turnover mentioned in the above paragraph. The Packers scored 49 in their on Sunday alone. This offense looks like it's being operated by a band of blind old men.

- And there has not been one shining moment to speak of in regards to being able to feel good about where this team is right now. 16 quarters of football, and 16 quarters of futility for this team. Even, in their shutout of Seattle, it was not impressive and they still struggled offensively, in spite of the score.


- And the Steelers O-line and D-line have been dominated in 3 of 4 games. We can't run or pass block. And teams are now ripping rushing yards off by the chunk against this team. Pretty damn scary if you ask me.

- And last but certainly not least, the motherlode. -10. As in -10 turnover ratio. Let that sink in for a sec.....4 games into the season, and this team has a -10 turnover ratio. 6 fumbles. 5 ints. Only 1 to show for on our end. Wow! Just wow!(That's a Bengals stat! If somebody said an AFC north team was sporting those numbers, everybody on this board would lose their shirt betting on the Bengals. Nope, this is our beloved Steelers out there putting all this "on tape".


- And so 16 quarters of football for the Pittsburgh Steelers, reveals numbers that do not leave one with a good feeling about the remaining 48 quarters of football that remain in this season.




Rockon

skyhawk
10-03-2011, 08:46 PM
Why was the Polamalu fumble recovery a fluke? Looked legit to me. Great pressure by Harrison and a speedy Troy in the right place at the right time.

rockonsteel
10-03-2011, 09:03 PM
Why was the Polamalu fumble recovery a fluke? Looked legit to me. Great pressure by Harrison and a speedy Troy in the right place at the right time.

That was really kinda tonuge-in-cheek. Only to point out that, at this point in the season, it has been a one-time occurrance, and they really haven't come close to repeating it. I think the only other time they were even remotely close to getting a turnover was the one that went off Troy's hand, I don't recall which gme it was right now.

One turnover in 4 games, kinda makes that turnover seem a little flukish. Even though that play was classic Harrison, Polamalu, we haven't seen nearly enough of that yet this year from the D.


Rockon

steelz09
10-03-2011, 09:20 PM
Good post... It's obvious from this that it's not a certain area that's problematic. This is a team playing poorly and coaching poorly.

I will say Ike and Polamalu are playing good on D. That's about it. Polamalu is all over the place on just about every defensive snap. If we didn't have Polamalu, this team would be in serious trouble. Our poor record without him is a prime example of his impact.

skyhawk
10-04-2011, 01:25 AM
Good post... It's obvious from this that it's not a certain area that's problematic. This is a team playing poorly and coaching poorly.

I will say Ike and Polamalu are playing good on D. That's about it. Polamalu is all over the place on just about every defensive snap. If we didn't have Polamalu, this team would be in serious trouble. Our poor record without him is a prime example of his impact.

Are teammates relying too much on Troy's ability to bail them out??

skyhawk
10-04-2011, 01:26 AM
Why was the Polamalu fumble recovery a fluke? Looked legit to me. Great pressure by Harrison and a speedy Troy in the right place at the right time.

That was really kinda tonuge-in-cheek. Only to point out that, at this point in the season, it has been a one-time occurrance, and they really haven't come close to repeating it. I think the only other time they were even remotely close to getting a turnover was the one that went off Troy's hand, I don't recall which gme it was right now.

One turnover in 4 games, kinda makes that turnover seem a little flukish. Even though that play was classic Harrison, Polamalu, we haven't seen nearly enough of that yet this year from the D.


Rockon

Agree 100% :Cheers

rockonsteel
10-04-2011, 07:36 AM
Good post... It's obvious from this that it's not a certain area that's problematic. This is a team playing poorly and coaching poorly.

I will say Ike and Polamalu are playing good on D. That's about it. Polamalu is all over the place on just about every defensive snap. If we didn't have Polamalu, this team would be in serious trouble. Our poor record without him is a prime example of his impact.

Are teammates relying too much on Troy's ability to bail them out??


Or is DL too dependent on Troy to mask other guys deficiencies?


Rockon

Ghost
10-04-2011, 08:28 AM
And Rashard Mendenhall has just over 170 yds. rushing. That amounts to a little over 10 yds. a quarter. Whoa!!

This is a mind boggling statistic. A back should be able to run to the line of scrimmage and immediately fall over (which is mostly what Mendy does...) and still have better numbers than this.

I don't know if you can shame an o-line into playing better but this is the kind of info the coaches should be sharing with them. You could take 5 guys off practice squads around the league and put up these numbers.

steelz09
10-04-2011, 09:27 AM
Good post... It's obvious from this that it's not a certain area that's problematic. This is a team playing poorly and coaching poorly.

I will say Ike and Polamalu are playing good on D. That's about it. Polamalu is all over the place on just about every defensive snap. If we didn't have Polamalu, this team would be in serious trouble. Our poor record without him is a prime example of his impact.

Are teammates relying too much on Troy's ability to bail them out??

Or is DL too dependent on Troy to mask other guys deficiencies?

Rockon

I wouldn't just say the DL. I would say the entire defenese.

feltdizz
10-04-2011, 09:32 AM
And Rashard Mendenhall has just over 170 yds. rushing. That amounts to a little over 10 yds. a quarter. Whoa!!

This is a mind boggling statistic. A back should be able to run to the line of scrimmage and immediately fall over (which is mostly what Mendy does...) and still have better numbers than this.

I don't know if you can shame an o-line into playing better but this is the kind of info the coaches should be sharing with them. You could take 5 guys off practice squads around the league and put up these numbers.

Redman doesn't fall.... Moore didn't fall....

75% of the running game woes is on Mend. No way other RB's produce... especially Redman when D's know he is getting the football, and Mend can't get it going.

Ghost
10-04-2011, 09:42 AM
And Rashard Mendenhall has just over 170 yds. rushing. That amounts to a little over 10 yds. a quarter. Whoa!!

This is a mind boggling statistic. A back should be able to run to the line of scrimmage and immediately fall over (which is mostly what Mendy does...) and still have better numbers than this.

I don't know if you can shame an o-line into playing better but this is the kind of info the coaches should be sharing with them. You could take 5 guys off practice squads around the league and put up these numbers.

Redman doesn't fall.... Moore didn't fall....

75% of the running game woes is on Mend. No way other RB's produce... especially Redman when D's know he is getting the football, and Mend can't get it going.

I agree with you. It's equally mind boggling that Arians appears to refuse to put Redman out there for any length of time. Why not put him on the filed for an entire series or two and see how he does? Have him in the first two downs and Moore on 3rd down. At this point you have to look at the numbers and accept that Mendenhall stinks (hopefully this is temporary), for whatever reason. Maybe a change would do him good and we'd see the talent he has. If he continues to wait for the line to create holes he won't rush for 700 yards this season.

rockonsteel
10-04-2011, 10:35 AM
And Rashard Mendenhall has just over 170 yds. rushing. That amounts to a little over 10 yds. a quarter. Whoa!!

This is a mind boggling statistic. A back should be able to run to the line of scrimmage and immediately fall over (which is mostly what Mendy does...) and still have better numbers than this.

I don't know if you can shame an o-line into playing better but this is the kind of info the coaches should be sharing with them. You could take 5 guys off practice squads around the league and put up these numbers.

Redman doesn't fall.... Moore didn't fall....

75% of the running game woes is on Mend. No way other RB's produce... especially Redman when D's know he is getting the football, and Mend can't get it going.

I agree with you. It's equally mind boggling that Arians appears to refuse to put Redman out there for any length of time. Why not put him on the filed for an entire series or two and see how he does? Have him in the first two downs and Moore on 3rd down. At this point you have to look at the numbers and accept that Mendenhall stinks (hopefully this is temporary), for whatever reason. Maybe a change would do him good and we'd see the talent he has. If he continues to wait for the line to create holes he won't rush for 700 yards this season.

I think Rashard, much like Ben is shellshocked behind this crappy O-line. Much the same way Ben is spending more time looking at the pass rush than looking downfield these days, I think Rashard dances around even more than normal because he has no confidence in a hole being there. Believe me, that's not making excuses for him, he needs to learn to plant his foot, lower his shoulder and drive into the line when there is not a wipe gaping hole there. But, if a RB has no confidence in his line, it is pretty hard to operate that way.


Rockon

feltdizz
10-04-2011, 10:48 AM
Redman isn't worried about confidence.. neither is Moore. It's time to stop making excuses for the skill positions that know who these OL are and what they are capable of. Ben knows what he is working with... he cosigns these lineman and defends them all the time.

Either Ben needs to speak up and ask for Arians to go or he needs to play within the boundaries of this OL and OC he loves.

williar
10-04-2011, 04:34 PM
Redman isn't worried about confidence.. neither is Moore. It's time to stop making excuses for the skill positions that know who these OL are and what they are capable of. Ben knows what he is working with... he cosigns these lineman and defends them all the time.

Either Ben needs to speak up and ask for Arians to go or he needs to play within the boundaries of this OL and OC he loves.

Strong....