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JAR
09-07-2011, 05:29 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)

insanesteelersfan
09-07-2011, 05:32 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)





First off, Manning can't be traded. He just signed a huge deal this off-season, and any trade would cripple the Colts as a team with their Cap. They would have to release half their team to trade Manning. And no one is giving anything for Manning at his age, even IF he were 100 % healthy.

JAR
09-07-2011, 05:39 PM
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/201 ... season.htm (http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20110907/210113_peyton-manning-out-for-season.htm)

williar
09-07-2011, 05:54 PM
I think he should go on IR. I guess your neck and back would give out after carrying an organization on your back for so many years.

RuthlessBurgher
09-07-2011, 06:07 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)





First off, Manning can't be traded. He just signed a huge deal this off-season, and any trade would cripple the Colts as a team with their Cap. They would have to release half their team to trade Manning. And no one is giving anything for Manning at his age, even IF he were 100 % healthy.

I believe the author is talking about fantasy football here.

JAR
09-07-2011, 09:26 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)





First off, Manning can't be traded. He just signed a huge deal this off-season, and any trade would cripple the Colts as a team with their Cap. They would have to release half their team to trade Manning. And no one is giving anything for Manning at his age, even IF he were 100 % healthy.

I believe the author is talking about fantasy football here.

:Hater :twisted:

flippy
09-07-2011, 09:39 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)





First off, Manning can't be traded. He just signed a huge deal this off-season, and any trade would cripple the Colts as a team with their Cap. They would have to release half their team to trade Manning. And no one is giving anything for Manning at his age, even IF he were 100 % healthy.

I believe the author is talking about fantasy football here.

Insane could be talking about a fantasy team in his big money league.

insanesteelersfan
09-07-2011, 09:52 PM
The latest on Colts QB Peyton Manning. Jake Query, a radio host on WNDE in
Indianapolis is reporting that sources are telling him that Peyton Manning
is out for the year.

Query posted this on his twitter feed today:

"What I (Query) said: A source I consider reliable told me he is out for the
season. I do believe that the actual diagnosis is still being determined"

Query then followed that with: "I (Query) was also told the 3rd procedure has
taken place, either Sun or Monday."

Understand that this is not official by any stretch. This is a radio host in
Indianapolis (that I don't know much about) saying this is what his sources
are telling him.

It certainly fits with the worse case scenarios we've been envisioning but it
should be stressed that we have no facts or words from the Colts to back this up.
It's also worth noting that the Colts and Bill Polian are going to be the absolute
last people on earth to tell us this.

My gut feel is that I'd positively let someone else take the chance on Manning at
just about any price right now. I know some are saying now is the time to scoop
him up for pennies. I'm not one of those guys.

This is perhaps not related in any way shape or form, but I think it's worth
understanding that Peyton's older brother, Cooper, quit football after it was
discovered he had a congenital spine issue. I'm NOT saying Peyton has the same
issue. But I am saying Cooper's issue is something he thinks about as he plans
his future. It would be impossible for it not to be considered for him.
Older (but still relevant) article here: http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sport ... ning.shtml (http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/07/Sports/The_other_Manning.shtml)





First off, Manning can't be traded. He just signed a huge deal this off-season, and any trade would cripple the Colts as a team with their Cap. They would have to release half their team to trade Manning. And no one is giving anything for Manning at his age, even IF he were 100 % healthy.

I believe the author is talking about fantasy football here.

Insane could be talking about a fantasy team in his big money league.





I thought the OP was saying that the radio guy was saying that they should have traded Manning when they could have,,,before this alledged surgery. If I misunderstood that, then oops, my bad. But no way will Manning ever be traded anyways, especially now.

Shoe
09-07-2011, 11:30 PM
Wow... I'd be interested in knowing the betting line on the season win total for Indy.

hawaiiansteel
09-07-2011, 11:40 PM
Wow... I'd be interested in knowing the betting line on the season win total for Indy.


I called my friend in Vegas who loves to gamble and he said most casinos are not accepting bets on the over/under Indy Colts win total.

he said last year's total was 10.5 but he didn't know this year's line because he can't find it posted anywhere.

Djfan
09-07-2011, 11:43 PM
1 Sep 11 IND @ HOU Loss
2 Sep 18 CLE @ IND Win
3 Sep 25 PIT @ IND Loss
4 Oct 03 IND @ TB Loss
5 Oct 09 KC @ IND Loss
6 Oct 16 IND @ CIN Win
7 Oct 23 IND @ NO Loss
8 Oct 30 IND @ TEN Win
9 Nov 06 ATL @ IND Loss
10 Nov 13 JAC @ IND Win
11 Bye Loss
12 Nov 27 CAR @ IND Win
13 Dec 04 IND @ NE Loss
14 Dec 11 IND @ BAL Loss
15 Dec 18 TEN @ IND Win
16 Dec 22 HOU @ IND Loss
17 Jan 01 IND @ JAC Loss

feltdizz
09-08-2011, 08:26 AM
Without Manning that team is 2-14... home field adv. may give them another 2 wins.

More than likely he is done.

phillyesq
09-08-2011, 09:12 AM
Without Manning that team is 2-14... home field adv. may give them another 2 wins.

More than likely he is done.

Yeah, that team is built entirely around Manning. The line is built to pass protect rather than run block. The defense is built around ends who rush the passer, which is perfect if you're playing from ahead or with a dynamic offense.

They still have a lot of weapons for Kerry Colllins, but they also have Kerry Collins throwing to those weapons.

If he's out for the year, it is a shame. I've never cared for Manning, but I'd prefer the Steelers have an opportunity to beat the Colts with Manning under center.

papillon
09-08-2011, 09:45 AM
Without Manning that team is 2-14... home field adv. may give them another 2 wins.

More than likely he is done.

Yeah, that team is built entirely around Manning. The line is built to pass protect rather than run block. The defense is built around ends who rush the passer, which is perfect if you're playing from ahead or with a dynamic offense.

They still have a lot of weapons for Kerry Colllins, but they also have Kerry Collins throwing to those weapons.

If he's out for the year, it is a shame. I've never cared for Manning, but I'd prefer the Steelers have an opportunity to beat the Colts with Manning under center.

We've already done that in a big game. :wink: :tt2

Pappy

insanesteelersfan
09-08-2011, 01:01 PM
Look I am not discounting Manning's success and history. But why I wonder is everyone assuming that the Colts will fall off the face of the earth without Peyton ? I mean it's not like he gets anything done with his legs, or can keep a broken play going with his quickness. I mean what happens if Collins leads this team to a division crown, and say 10-11 wins without Manning ? Does this take away some of the Manning " Legend " ?


As stated, I KNOW they will miss Peyton if he indeed does miss the whole, or most of the season. But I wouldn't be too quick to discount a Vet like Collins just yet.

Jooser
09-08-2011, 01:06 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ut-awhile/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/colts-owner-peyton-manning-will-be-out-awhile/)


Colts owner: Peyton Manning will be out “awhile”

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 8, 2011, 9:17 AM EDT

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The news about Peyton Manning’s injury is going to get worse before it gets better.

The latest from Colts information director/owner Jim Irsay, via Twitter:

“NFL Season opens 2nite!We had a good practice yesterday and r guys r fired up 4 the season.#18?s out for awhile,but compete,we will/BELIEVE,” Irsay wrote.

That followed up a tweet on Wednesday night from Irsay that said Manning hasn’t had another surgery, and that the Colts would add information and clarity to the situation soon.

This much is clear: Manning’s injury is not going to be a one or two week problem. This is going to take “awhile.”

phillyesq
09-08-2011, 01:06 PM
Without Manning that team is 2-14... home field adv. may give them another 2 wins.

More than likely he is done.

Yeah, that team is built entirely around Manning. The line is built to pass protect rather than run block. The defense is built around ends who rush the passer, which is perfect if you're playing from ahead or with a dynamic offense.

They still have a lot of weapons for Kerry Colllins, but they also have Kerry Collins throwing to those weapons.

If he's out for the year, it is a shame. I've never cared for Manning, but I'd prefer the Steelers have an opportunity to beat the Colts with Manning under center.

We've already done that in a big game. :wink: :tt2

Pappy

Indeed we have. Beating Peyton is so satisfying that I'd like to see it repeated as often as possible.

:tt2

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
09-08-2011, 02:01 PM
I was hearing on the radio today some people saying that this will prove Manning's worth. They were implying that because NE went 10-6 without Brady then if the Colts implode then Manning is the be all and end all of NFL QBs.

I'd have to say that this is a much different situation. Brady handed it over to his capable understudy. Manning's injury forced the Colts to check out recent retirees and forced them to bring in a guy two weeks before the season starts to learn a complicated D that was based upon the mind and skills of Peyton Manning. Collins was never more than an okay QB, and I would wager that if he wasn't already playing in Indy, Colbert would still not have called him after Lefty went down.

insanesteelersfan
09-08-2011, 02:07 PM
I was hearing on the radio today some people saying that this will prove Manning's worth. They were implying that because NE went 10-6 without Brady then if the Colts implode then Manning is the be all and end all of NFL QBs.

I'd have to say that this is a much different situation. Brady handed it over to his capable understudy. Manning's injury forced the Colts to check out recent retirees and forced them to bring in a guy two weeks before the season starts to learn a complicated D that was based upon the mind and skills of Peyton Manning. Collins was never more than an okay QB, and I would wager that if he wasn't already playing in Indy, Colbert would still not have called him after Lefty went down.






I would hardly call Matt Cassell a capable understudy. The dude wasn't even a starter in college. To me, that only showed me that the Patriots system is exactly that...A System. A system that ANY QB can run and have success in. If anything it takes away all the Glory of Tom Brady, and his bloated stats in that system offense.

feltdizz
09-08-2011, 03:03 PM
I have to agree with insane on this one...

The Pats could put Mallet in and he would have big stats because they don't ask the QB to be a hero... just throw accurate 5 to 7 yard passes and watch Welker and the midget RB go wild.

insanesteelersfan
09-08-2011, 03:08 PM
NFL Network just " Confirmed " that Manning DID have his 3rd neck surgery this morning. And will be out a MINIMUM of 3 Months. And most likely depending on their record will likely be out for the year. And those Nerve injuries around the neck are tricky, and very serious. And the Colts KNEW this when they gave Manning a new deal worth over 90 million.



Something maybe the steelers wanna think about before giving Troy a new, long term contract huh ?

hawaiiansteel
09-08-2011, 03:19 PM
NFL Network just " Confirmed " that Manning DID have his 3rd neck surgery this morning. And will be out a MINIMUM of 3 Months. And most likely depending on their record will likely be out for the year. And those Nerve injuries around the neck are tricky, and very serious. And the Colts KNEW this when they gave Manning a new deal worth over 90 million.

Something maybe the steelers wanna think about before giving Troy a new, long term contract huh ?


I know what you're saying but if Troy makes it through this season relatively healthy the Steelers will definitely give him a lucrative, long-term contract.

insanesteelersfan
09-08-2011, 03:24 PM
NFL Network just " Confirmed " that Manning DID have his 3rd neck surgery this morning. And will be out a MINIMUM of 3 Months. And most likely depending on their record will likely be out for the year. And those Nerve injuries around the neck are tricky, and very serious. And the Colts KNEW this when they gave Manning a new deal worth over 90 million.

Something maybe the steelers wanna think about before giving Troy a new, long term contract huh ?


I know what you're saying but if Troy makes it through this season relatively healthy the Steelers will definitely give him a lucrative, long-term contract.




I agree, if he makes it through this year healthy,,,give him the deal. But not before this year was what I was questioning. BTW, NFL network had a debate as to which Safety was better, Troy or Ed Reed, and BOTH guys said Reed is easily way way better. :wft

D Rock
09-08-2011, 03:31 PM
giving Troy a new contract has nothing to do with the stupidity of the Colts throwing huge money at a guy with a messed up neck.

And Cassel wasn't a starter in college because he was behind two Heisman winners. That's all that means. As far as quarterbacking goes in college and the NFL...that's it. He was behind two really good college QBs. He has become a better NFL QB than they have though. (Palmer was better for awhile)

He led a Chiefs team from 2-14 to 10-6 within 2 years. He's more than a marginally good QB.

insanesteelersfan
09-08-2011, 03:36 PM
giving Troy a new contract has nothing to do with the stupidity of the Colts throwing huge money at a guy with a messed up neck.

And Cassel wasn't a starter in college because he was behind two Heisman winners. That's all that means. As far as quarterbacking goes in college and the NFL...that's it. He was behind two really good college QBs. He has become a better NFL QB than they have though. (Palmer was better for awhile)

He led a Chiefs team from 2-14 to 10-6 within 2 years. He's more than a marginally good QB.




I think Cassell is an okay QB...Robotic at best. But please, KC won 10 games last season due to their great 1-2 punch at RB, and their great special teams play that won them TWO games that were for sure losses last year. So please, lets not give Cassell anywhere close to the greater amount of credit.

hawaiiansteel
09-08-2011, 04:15 PM
Manning undergoes cervical fusion surgery, out 2-3 months

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 8, 2011

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/p-manning-k-collins.jpg?w=250

Florio told you an hour ago that Peyton Manning’s surgery could happen as early as Thursday. We can now tell you that surgery is complete.

ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports Manning had cervical fusion surgery, which wrapped up this afternoon. The expected recovery is 2-3 months, although we’ve seen with this injury how tricky it is to put a timeline on anything. There is no plan for Manning to go on I.R.

Manning reportedly consulted with a half-dozen doctors who came up with the solution to get cervical neck fusion.

A timeline to return is just a guess. Indianapolis had no idea how Manning would respond to his last surgery. After delays, he tried to practice lightly for a week. That caused a setback and further surgery. No one can truly know where this goes from here.

“He’s been on the clock since May,” Archie Manning said of his son to Mort. “He didn’t make it. Obviously, it’s a big letdown, but he can relax a little bit compared to the intensity of everything he has done trying to rehab.”

It sounds like the Colts will hold out hope that Manning can return this season, but the landscape of the AFC South has clearly changed.

It’s up to Kerry Collins and company to keep the Colts afloat in the meantime. We have our doubts they can do so.

Even if Manning was able to play again this season, it could be too late to make a difference.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -3-months/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/manning-undergoes-cervical-fusion-surgery-out-2-3-months/)

chiken
09-08-2011, 05:02 PM
no Peyton i cant see them winning more than 7 games.

D Rock
09-08-2011, 05:11 PM
giving Troy a new contract has nothing to do with the stupidity of the Colts throwing huge money at a guy with a messed up neck.

And Cassel wasn't a starter in college because he was behind two Heisman winners. That's all that means. As far as quarterbacking goes in college and the NFL...that's it. He was behind two really good college QBs. He has become a better NFL QB than they have though. (Palmer was better for awhile)

He led a Chiefs team from 2-14 to 10-6 within 2 years. He's more than a marginally good QB.




I think Cassell is an okay QB...Robotic at best. But please, KC won 10 games last season due to their great 1-2 punch at RB, and their great special teams play that won them TWO games that were for sure losses last year. So please, lets not give Cassell anywhere close to the greater amount of credit.

27 TDs and only 7 INTs isn't significant QB play for you? Ben has only thrown more TDs than that 1 time, and less INTs 1 time (last year in only 12 games) but he gets plenty of credit from you.

Why is it that Cassel is only okay and robotic at best?

RuthlessBurgher
09-08-2011, 05:13 PM
I mean what happens if Collins leads this team to a division crown, and say 10-11 wins without Manning ? Does this take away some of the Manning " Legend " ?

Did New England's 11 win season with Matt Cassel at the helm take away some of the Brady " Legend " ?

Discipline of Steel
09-08-2011, 05:17 PM
The Colts are going to suck this year. Kerry Collins will fail miserably, then get injured. Indy will inquire about obtaining the services of Dennis Dixon. Pittsburgh will say...

hawaiiansteel
09-08-2011, 05:26 PM
The Colts are going to suck this year. Kerry Collins will fail miserably, then get injured. Indy will inquire about obtaining the services of Dennis Dixon. Pittsburgh will say...


YES, as quickly as is humanly possible.

finished that sentence for you... :D

BackwoodsSteeler
09-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Oh no.....no Peyton. :roll:

Now I guess nobody will be able to collect garbage time stats and choke like a dog in the post season.

Oh the humanity!!!!!!!! :HeadBanger

hawaiiansteel
09-09-2011, 02:03 AM
Manning got his new deal without having to pass a physical

Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2011


As the football-following world processes the news that Colts quarterback Peyton Manning will miss considerable time after undergoing spinal surgery on Thursday, only one thing is clear.

Peyton Manning will get paid a ton of money, even if he doesn’t take a single snap this year.

Per a league source, that new five-year, $90 million contract was given to Manning without the quarterback having to pass a physical. In other words, he got $20 million to sign, and the Colts didn’t insist on obtaining medical clearance that he can play before giving it to him. (He eventually passed a physical before being cleared to practice last week — before suffering the setback that caused the latest procedure.)

With the Colts choosing to keep Manning on the active roster, he’ll also pocket his $3.4 million base salary for the new season, along with a $3 million roster bonus tied to Manning being on the 53-man roster for any one game in 2011.

The next question, if Manning can’t play in 2011, becomes whether the Colts would pay him a $28 million option bonus, which is due early in the next league year. The Colts can avoid the payment only by cutting or trading Manning, and it would be shocking — actually, beyond shocking — if the team would sever ties with one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

So why did the Colts sign Manning to this deal in the first place? Peter King of NBC and Sports Illustrated explained during the debut of NBC SportsTalk that the Colts had no concerns about the most recent surgery at the time it was conducted in May 2011, and that team Vice Chairman Bill Polian said on the day of the prior procedure that it would not impact the contract talks.

If the Colts knew then what they know now, it’s hard not to believe that they would have at most kept Manning under the franchise tag in 2011, waiting until 2012 to sign him to a long-term contract.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -physical/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/08/manning-got-his-new-deal-without-having-to-pass-a-physical/)

papillon
09-09-2011, 07:26 AM
Manning got his new deal without having to pass a physical

Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2011


As the football-following world processes the news that Colts quarterback Peyton Manning will miss considerable time after undergoing spinal surgery on Thursday, only one thing is clear.

Peyton Manning will get paid a ton of money, even if he doesn’t take a single snap this year.

Per a league source, that new five-year, $90 million contract was given to Manning without the quarterback having to pass a physical. In other words, he got $20 million to sign, and the Colts didn’t insist on obtaining medical clearance that he can play before giving it to him. (He eventually passed a physical before being cleared to practice last week — before suffering the setback that caused the latest procedure.)

With the Colts choosing to keep Manning on the active roster, he’ll also pocket his $3.4 million base salary for the new season, along with a $3 million roster bonus tied to Manning being on the 53-man roster for any one game in 2011.

The next question, if Manning can’t play in 2011, becomes whether the Colts would pay him a $28 million option bonus, which is due early in the next league year. The Colts can avoid the payment only by cutting or trading Manning, and it would be shocking — actually, beyond shocking — if the team would sever ties with one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

So why did the Colts sign Manning to this deal in the first place? Peter King of NBC and Sports Illustrated explained during the debut of NBC SportsTalk that the Colts had no concerns about the most recent surgery at the time it was conducted in May 2011, and that team Vice Chairman Bill Polian said on the day of the prior procedure that it would not impact the contract talks.

If the Colts knew then what they know now, it’s hard not to believe that they would have at most kept Manning under the franchise tag in 2011, waiting until 2012 to sign him to a long-term contract.

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His contract will almost assuredly put the Colts in capology Hell. It appears this season is done, which makes him a year older and a year away from being in football condition. If the nerve damage doesn't allow his arm to have enough strength to throw the football into tight windows his career could come to an end sooner than expected as well.

Either way, the Colts are on the hook for the signing bonus which was substantial, the question is, what will they get for their investment?

Pappy

Djfan
09-09-2011, 09:55 AM
Mike & Mike just said that some expert just said that the Colts can get out of the contract next year, after only one year and about $26 million.

wow.