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insanesteelersfan
09-05-2011, 11:21 PM
One is former Pitt Panther, Dorin Dickerson, who was in the Texans camp, and was one of their last cuts. He was a TE in college, but was trying to be converted to a WR by Houston. The other WR is former Bears 3rd rounder,
Juaquin Iglesias.


http://www.timesonline.com/sports/local ... f6878.html (http://www.timesonline.com/sports/local_sports/dickerson-will-get-workout-with-steelers/article_b2b96614-d7eb-11e0-b4a6-001a4bcf6878.html)




http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ ... ay/6582592 (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/steelers_to_also_workout_wr_juaquin_iglesias_on_tu esday/6582592)





I would think Dickerson would be used as his former TE role,,,maybe to replace David Johnson. But Iglesias, he is a pure WR. I wonder if A.Battle is not as secure as we all may think.

Pahn711
09-06-2011, 12:13 AM
Battle was named a special teams captain, I doubt they plan on cutting him now.

More likely its an insurance policy since Cotchery and Sanders have been hurt, maybe an injury we haven't even heard about yet with another wideout.

insanesteelersfan
09-06-2011, 12:19 AM
Battle was named a special teams captain, I doubt they plan on cutting him now.

More likely its an insurance policy since Cotchery and Sanders have been hurt, maybe an injury we haven't even heard about yet with another wideout.




I'll tell you why your logic is skewed. One, Sanders is no longer injured at all. He has practiced the past two weeks fully, and played in our final pre-season game, and played well with no issues. As for Battle, yes he was named a Captain, but remember, Antonio Brown is our only kickoff returner. And since Antonio is gonna be such an important factor in our WR core, they would likely not wanna risk him as a returner. Iglesias has alot of return experience. As where Battle has none. Dickerson is more of a TE/HB/FB like David Johnson then he is a WR. And I would bet the steelers would have liked to bring him in sooner. It just that the Texans didn't release him til after the final pre-season game. If he shows well on Yuesday, they might sign him to the practice squad to get used to our offense, and then they might bring him on the 53 man roster to replace Johnson after a while.

Pahn711
09-06-2011, 12:30 AM
Sanders, or any other receiver on team for that matter, could have reaggravated an existing injury or gotten a new one since the last injury report update (I also dispute he has practiced in full the last two weeks, I believe until last week he was pretty limited). We don't know for sure, its perfectly logical that the Steelers would just be sampling whats out there in anticipation of someone not being able to play. Its also possible they are browsing for practice squad candidates, personally I'm not sold on Grisham.

Antonio Brown is not our only kick returner actually, Mewelde Moore has done plenty of that himself and I believe even Sanders returned some last year. The Steelers have never hesitated to use running backs in the past if need be. Anyways, with the new kickoff rule its a pretty moot point, I doubt they would shake up the roster for that.

I'm not disagreeing with you about Dickerson, the Steelers would definitely do well to keep exploring their TE options. But if they are gonna replace anyone, it would be Saunders, not Johnson who knows the system and is praised by the coaching staff pretty regularly.

ramblinjim
09-06-2011, 07:23 AM
Count me as one of the few that believes Johnson has made the team and isn't in danger of being cut. He's been around for a couple of years, there have been several guys come and go in that period of time, yet he remains. If they are bringing in another tight end I'd think Saunders is where they are looking for an upgrade.

As for wide receiver injuries go, we don't know what happened during or after the third pre-season game. Guys get hurt and finish the game all the time, didn't Aaron Smith play 2 games a few years ago with a torn bicep?

Oviedo
09-06-2011, 08:11 AM
One is former Pitt Panther, Dorin Dickerson, who was in the Texans camp, and was one of their last cuts. He was a TE in college, but was trying to be converted to a WR by Houston. The other WR is former Bears 3rd rounder,
Juaquin Iglesias.


http://www.timesonline.com/sports/local ... f6878.html (http://www.timesonline.com/sports/local_sports/dickerson-will-get-workout-with-steelers/article_b2b96614-d7eb-11e0-b4a6-001a4bcf6878.html)




http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ ... ay/6582592 (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/steelers_to_also_workout_wr_juaquin_iglesias_on_tu esday/6582592)





I would think Dickerson would be used as his former TE role,,,maybe to replace David Johnson. But Iglesias, he is a pure WR. I wonder if A.Battle is not as secure as we all may think.

Dickerson is like 227lbs. No way are they looking at him as a TE in our offense. He fits the physical abilities for a classic H-back but we don't use an H-back like other teams do.

I'm not sure if he still has any PS eligibility, but I think this is the team just doing due diligence and building a file on players they could reach out to in the event of injuries down the road.

flippy
09-06-2011, 08:17 AM
I liked Dorin when he was at Pitt.

steelblood
09-06-2011, 08:46 AM
I agree with Ovi. This is probably a due diligence thing.

Slapstick
09-06-2011, 08:54 AM
Both of these players have at least one season of practice squad eligibility remaining...Iglesias was a 3rd round pick who ran a 4.4...Dickerson is a hometown kid who may have the skill set to be an H-Back in the Steelers offense...

I don't think that anyone on the roster is in immediate danger of losing their job...

Practice squad guys? Different story...Jamie McCoy and Tyler Grisham could be very much in danger...

rockonsteel
09-06-2011, 08:58 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.





Rockon

BradshawsHairdresser
09-06-2011, 09:10 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.





Rockon

Agreed.

But according to some on this board, we'd better keep that concern to ourselves.
The folks who make these decisions, they are at practice everyday, and they see things we don't. They can see what's needed and we can't. They are geniuses who never make mistakes. This board is not for questioning any choices they make. Go buy your Steelers pillow pets and quit asking questions.

phillyesq
09-06-2011, 09:16 AM
I'm not sure if he still has any PS eligibility, but I think this is the team just doing due diligence and building a file on players they could reach out to in the event of injuries down the road.

:Agree

There is always a chance that Cotchery or Sanders reaggravates an injury. Hines isn't getting any younger. Unexpected things happen during the season. No harm in doing a little due diligence, especially if these were guys that the Steelers may have scouted previously.

phillyesq
09-06-2011, 09:25 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.
Rockon

The Steelers brought in a bunch of corners during camp. I can't remember their names, but there were a few guys that had played a bit with other teams that were in camp for a bit and then subsequently released.

I'd find it hard to believe that the Steelers could find somebody on the street who could step in and upgrade a corner spot. The two draft picks both have potential, but they were banged up a bit and did not have OTAs and minicamps. I don't want to give up on one of them for somebody elses scraps. As for Gay and McFadden, it's unlikely that the Steelers will find somebody more talented on the street, so they might as well stick with guys that at least know the system.

rockonsteel
09-06-2011, 09:26 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.





Rockon

Agreed.

But according to some on this board, we'd better keep that concern to ourselves.
The folks who make these decisions, they are at practice everyday, and they see things we don't. They can see what's needed and we can't. They are geniuses who never make mistakes. This board is not for questioning any choices they make. Go buy your Steelers pillow pets and quit asking questions.

Oh my bad. I lost my head for a second there, and stepped out of line. Please forgive me.

Well, can I at least make an appointment to get my hair did then? Oh, wait, nevermind, I pulled that all out watching William Gay getting roasted repeatedly in the SB.



Rockon

flippy
09-06-2011, 09:33 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.





Rockon

Agreed.

But according to some on this board, we'd better keep that concern to ourselves.
The folks who make these decisions, they are at practice everyday, and they see things we don't. They can see what's needed and we can't. They are geniuses who never make mistakes. This board is not for questioning any choices they make. Go buy your Steelers pillow pets and quit asking questions.

I think we're deep at the DB position. And I think we kept the right guys.

The only questionable keep imho was Will Allen. Do we need Allen and Battle as ST specialists? Could one of the other DBs backed up the safety position?

At the DB position, we had 2 cuts that we can argue over. At the WR position, it's pretty clear cut and we had no depth we could really even make a case for a guy that should have made the team.

And we tried to bring in Harris as well at DB.

Given all that, I will say, the first 3 guys I'd like to see us upgrade on D are Clark, Gay, and BMac. But there's no one ready to push these guys at this point. They bring a lot more to the table than any other option right now.

So we had to pick between Lewis, Brown, CAllen, Warren, and Butler. And there were 3 slots. I think we selected the right 3 guys given the CB spots available.

rockonsteel
09-06-2011, 09:40 AM
Flip, I hear ya. But, why do they keep parading receivers in here every week? If it's due diligence, then why so much applied to WRs exclusively? I would think due diligence means trying to improve the team wherever possible. They just seemed overly obsessed with receivers, and overly content with CBs.


Rockon

Chadman
09-06-2011, 10:12 AM
Could Dickerson be a potential replacement to someone like Jonathon Dwyer?

Obviously, he's not a RB, but as a 3rd down guy? Redman is clearly Mendy's back-up. Moore is vet insurance (yes, I KNOW he's also the 3rd down back- but obviously they are not abject to upgrades- hence drafting Baron Batch).

They stashed Clay on the PS...it's not a stretch to think if 1 of the top 3 RB's went down they could just promote Clay, who is kinda similar to Dwyer anyway in playing style.

It probably won't happen- but I'd be ok with it if it did.

RuthlessBurgher
09-06-2011, 10:18 AM
We brought in plenty of potential new CB's this year. Signed Donovan Warren to a futures contract following the Super Bowl. Drafted Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen. Signed Kevin Dockery and Macho Harris during camp. It's not as if there is an abundance of accomplished unemployed cornerbacks just wandering the streets.

rockonsteel
09-06-2011, 10:45 AM
We brought in plenty of potential new CB's this year. Signed Donovan Warren to a futures contract following the Super Bowl. Drafted Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen. Signed Kevin Dockery and Macho Harris during camp. It's not as if there is an abundance of accomplished unemployed cornerbacks just wandering the streets.

True. And none of those guys are difference makers, marginal at best. I unnderstand that. What I don't understand is why they keep focusing on receivers, when that position is pretty much trump tight. There's not a whole lot difference makers on the street at wr either(not that we need them). You would think the position they'd continually try to upgrade would be the one that's shown to be a weakness, not the one that has shownto be a strength.


Rockon

Djfan
09-06-2011, 10:48 AM
Because the NFL is becoming a pass happy, big points league, the team is focusing on that.

BradshawsHairdresser
09-06-2011, 10:54 AM
Because the NFL is becoming a pass happy, big points league, the team is focusing on that.

Then why aren't we parading in a bunch of offensive linemen to try to upgrade our pass protection unit?

Oviedo
09-06-2011, 11:12 AM
Flip, I hear ya. But, why do they keep parading receivers in here every week? If it's due diligence, then why so much applied to WRs exclusively? I would think due diligence means trying to improve the team wherever possible. They just seemed overly obsessed with receivers, and overly content with CBs.


Rockon


Perhaps they feel they need lots of offense to cover for the secondary and the points they will give up. :stirpot

A WR or any offensive player could join this team and have a chance to play their first year. A first year player on defense has no chance of seeing the field so why bother :stirpot

Slapstick
09-06-2011, 11:35 AM
Because the NFL is becoming a pass happy, big points league, the team is focusing on that.

Then why aren't we parading in a bunch of offensive linemen to try to upgrade our pass protection unit?

Because Ben holds on to the ball so long even All-Pro OLs will give up sacks and hits...

rockonsteel
09-06-2011, 02:42 PM
Flip, I hear ya. But, why do they keep parading receivers in here every week? If it's due diligence, then why so much applied to WRs exclusively? I would think due diligence means trying to improve the team wherever possible. They just seemed overly obsessed with receivers, and overly content with CBs.


Rockon


Perhaps they feel they need lots of offense to cover for the secondary and the points they will give up. :stirpot

A WR or any offensive player could join this team and have a chance to play their first year. A first year player on defense has no chance of seeing the field so why bother :stirpot

Well, I have to admit. You got me there about first year guys and this defense, which is part of the problem. Oh, well, I guess we all just hold our collective breaths while will gay stinks up the joint, and hope for the best. It. Just boggles my mind.



Rockon

phillyesq
09-06-2011, 08:53 PM
Flip, I hear ya. But, why do they keep parading receivers in here every week? If it's due diligence, then why so much applied to WRs exclusively? I would think due diligence means trying to improve the team wherever possible. They just seemed overly obsessed with receivers, and overly content with CBs.


Rockon


Perhaps they feel they need lots of offense to cover for the secondary and the points they will give up. :stirpot

A WR or any offensive player could join this team and have a chance to play their first year. A first year player on defense has no chance of seeing the field so why bother :stirpot

Well, I have to admit. You got me there about first year guys and this defense, which is part of the problem. Oh, well, I guess we all just hold our collective breaths while will gay stinks up the joint, and hope for the best. It. Just boggles my mind.



Rockon

I don't think any of us want to see Gay and McFadden playing significant roles on D, but I think the Steelers best options this year are to hope that Lewis and Brown can contribute. I think Cortez Allen is seen like Ike Taylor -- a very raw project who will take a few years to develop but has serious upside.

The draft this year unfortunately did not have much top end CB talent, but it's way too early to give up on Brown. If the young corners don't develop and the Steelers do not address the CB position again next year, I will share in your frustration.

I also wouldn't mind seeing the Steelers look at the corner the *s just cut, but if the Steelers add a corner, finding a roster spot will be difficult. I don't think you can give up on the young corners yet, and I don't think you're likely to find anybody better than McFadden and Gay on the wire now, especially accounting for their knowledge of the system.

Steel Life
09-06-2011, 09:18 PM
Because the NFL is becoming a pass happy, big points league, the team is focusing on that.

Then why aren't we parading in a bunch of offensive linemen to try to upgrade our pass protection unit?

Because Ben holds on to the ball so long even All-Pro OLs will give up sacks and hits...
God I get tired of hearing that...don't consider that the OC likes convoluted routes, or that our OL just sucks...let's put it all on the guy who has to perform miracles at times because of how bad this O-Line really is.

But I digress...perhaps they're just bringing Dorin in to kick the tires on an exceptional athlete & they're wondering about new wrinkles in the offense. Or perhaps between an iffy hamstring on Hines or creaky back on Crotchery they're just seeing what's out there to round out a roster if they have to make a move.

Slapstick
09-06-2011, 10:15 PM
God I get tired of hearing that...don't consider that the OC likes convoluted routes, or that our OL just sucks...let's put it all on the guy who has to perform miracles at times because of how bad this O-Line really is.

But I digress...perhaps they're just bringing Dorin in to kick the tires on an exceptional athlete & they're wondering about new wrinkles in the offense. Or perhaps between an iffy hamstring on Hines or creaky back on Crotchery they're just seeing what's out there to round out a roster if they have to make a move.

Whether you like to hear it or not, it's true...

The guy DOES work miracles...but, it has more to do with the way he plays rather than how bad the offensive line is...

There are two main reasons that we, as Steeler fans, love to have Ben Roethlisberger at QB (and the two are definitely linked):

1) He's a winner

2) He extends plays. The first thing that a QB must do in order to extend plays is to hold on to the ball.

He's just not a 3 step drop, dump off the ball or throw it away QB...

He's a football player...

flippy
09-06-2011, 10:39 PM
A first year player on defense has no chance of seeing the field so why bother :stirpot

Makes sense. It's harder for a young guy to break in with the better unit.

BradshawsHairdresser
09-06-2011, 10:53 PM
There are two main reasons that we, as Steeler fans, love to have Ben Roethlisberger at QB (and the two are definitely linked):

1) He's a winner

2) He extends plays. The first thing that a QB must do in order to extend plays is to hold on to the ball.

He's just not a 3 step drop, dump off the ball or throw it away QB...

He's a football player...

I can't disagree with this part of your statement....yet I still think the OL could stand to be upgraded at a couple of positions. It's true that sometimes Ben gets hit and sacked because he holds the ball too long. It's also true that sometimes he gets hit and sacked because the OL has failed at pass protection.

Slapstick
09-06-2011, 11:19 PM
There is always room for improvement...

In the case of Dickerson and Iglesias, I genuine think that these workouts are designed to kick the tires on players who were good enough to be drafted (Iglesias in the 3rd round and Dickerson in the 7th) without haveing to spend any real resources on them...

As I mentioned, both players have practice squad eligibility...the possibility exists that they could develop into important role players...

NJ-STEELER
09-06-2011, 11:55 PM
Flip, I hear ya. But, why do they keep parading receivers in here every week? If it's due diligence, then why so much applied to WRs exclusively? I would think due diligence means trying to improve the team wherever possible. They just seemed overly obsessed with receivers, and overly content with CBs.


Rockon


Perhaps they feel they need lots of offense to cover for the secondary and the points they will give up. :stirpot
A WR or any offensive player could join this team and have a chance to play their first year. A first year player on defense has no chance of seeing the field so why bother :stirpot

Well, I have to admit. You got me there about first year guys and this defense, which is part of the problem. Oh, well, I guess we all just hold our collective breaths while will gay stinks up the joint, and hope for the best. It. Just boggles my mind.



Rockon

I don't think any of us want to see Gay and McFadden playing significant roles on D, but I think the Steelers best options this year are to hope that Lewis and Brown can contribute. I think Cortez Allen is seen like Ike Taylor -- a very raw project who will take a few years to develop but has serious upside.

The draft this year unfortunately did not have much top end CB talent, but it's way too early to give up on Brown. If the young corners don't develop and the Steelers do not address the CB position again next year, I will share in your frustration.

I also wouldn't mind seeing the Steelers look at the corner the *s just cut, but if the Steelers add a corner, finding a roster spot will be difficult. I don't think you can give up on the young corners yet, and I don't think you're likely to find anybody better than McFadden and Gay on the wire now, especially accounting for their knowledge of the system.


There was a CB taken right after our 1st round pick this year. By a team that selected a pro bowl corner at around the same slot as the year before.

We'll see how it plays out and see if it was the right choice

NJ-STEELER
09-07-2011, 12:00 AM
There are two main reasons that we, as Steeler fans, love to have Ben Roethlisberger at QB (and the two are definitely linked):

1) He's a winner

2) He extends plays. The first thing that a QB must do in order to extend plays is to hold on to the ball.

He's just not a 3 step drop, dump off the ball or throw it away QB...

He's a football player...

I can't disagree with this part of your statement....yet I still think the OL could stand to be upgraded at a couple of positions. It's true that sometimes Ben gets hit and sacked because he holds the ball too long. It's also true that sometimes he gets hit and sacked because the OL has failed at pass protection.


The same Could have been said a couple of years ago about the current league fave Aaron Rodgers. Yet, that didn't prevent the packers from selecting OTs in back to back years

phillyesq
09-07-2011, 09:27 AM
There was a CB taken right after our 1st round pick this year. By a team that selected a pro bowl corner at around the same slot as the year before.

We'll see how it plays out and see if it was the right choice

The corners were Ras-I Dowling and Aaron Williams. If I recall, there were some questions of whether Williams could stick at corner or would have to move to safety. Many saw his teammate, Brown, who we drafted, as the better cover guy. Dowling also had a lot of questions.

Corners were taken, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were a solid value.

phillyesq
09-07-2011, 09:32 AM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.
Rockon

In Bouchette's chat, which is posted in another thread, he mentioned that the Steelers were bringing in 4-5 players and that it was a due diligence type thing. No word on who was brought in aside from the two that got reported.

To say that they aren't evaluating corners seems speculative, at best.

flippy
09-07-2011, 09:56 AM
At the end of the day, you can't have the best players at every position on the field.

We're pretty fortunate to have 5 or 6 players that are the best at their respective positions with several more emerging.

We haven't put a premium on drafting CBs in the 1st round. It is what it is. We value the front 7 more and getting pressure on the QB.

I think that's the right approach. Getting pressure will make any CB look good, and not getting pressure will make any CB look bad.

Maybe we should get more on the highly paid front 7. It's on those guys to make the CBs look better in our system.

We get a lot of sacks, but a lot of it's manufactured by Lebeau's play calling. But how often do we get pressure with 3 or 4 man rushes? We generally don't.

We have to send the house to get pressure and it puts even more pressure on the DBs.

I guess I just don't get blaming the DBs for all of our shortcomings. If Revis had to give 10 yard cushions, he'd give up a lot of catches.

BradshawsHairdresser
09-07-2011, 12:36 PM
There are two main reasons that we, as Steeler fans, love to have Ben Roethlisberger at QB (and the two are definitely linked):

1) He's a winner

2) He extends plays. The first thing that a QB must do in order to extend plays is to hold on to the ball.

He's just not a 3 step drop, dump off the ball or throw it away QB...

He's a football player...

I can't disagree with this part of your statement....yet I still think the OL could stand to be upgraded at a couple of positions. It's true that sometimes Ben gets hit and sacked because he holds the ball too long. It's also true that sometimes he gets hit and sacked because the OL has failed at pass protection.


The same Could have been said a couple of years ago about the current league fave Aaron Rodgers. Yet, that didn't prevent the packers from selecting OTs in back to back years

Maybe Gilbert or J. Scott will turn out to be All-Pro at left tackle. I'll be very happy if that happens. But I agree with you, when you have a 100+ million dollar QB, it seems like it makes sense to invest a few first-round picks into the line that protects him (Pouncey was a good start). Although we all like to think of Ben as a super-tough QB, maybe his career can be extended a few years longer if we give him a good line.

flippy
09-07-2011, 12:52 PM
Although we all like to think of Ben as a super-tough QB, maybe his career can be extended a few years longer if we give him a good line.

He'd just hold the ball longer and extend more plays. :)

steelblood
09-07-2011, 01:00 PM
There are two main reasons that we, as Steeler fans, love to have Ben Roethlisberger at QB (and the two are definitely linked):

1) He's a winner

2) He extends plays. The first thing that a QB must do in order to extend plays is to hold on to the ball.

He's just not a 3 step drop, dump off the ball or throw it away QB...

He's a football player...


I can't disagree with this part of your statement....yet I still think the OL could stand to be upgraded at a couple of positions. It's true that sometimes Ben gets hit and sacked because he holds the ball too long. It's also true that sometimes he gets hit and sacked because the OL has failed at pass protection.


The same Could have been said a couple of years ago about the current league fave Aaron Rodgers. Yet, that didn't prevent the packers from selecting OTs in back to back years

Maybe Gilbert or J. Scott will turn out to be All-Pro at left tackle. I'll be very happy if that happens. But I agree with you, when you have a 100+ million dollar QB, it seems like it makes sense to invest a few first-round picks into the line that protects him (Pouncey was a good start). Although we all like to think of Ben as a super-tough QB, maybe his career can be extended a few years longer if we give him a good line.

Pouncey = 1st round pick last year
Gilbert = 2nd round pick this year
Colon (ben good friend) = resigned

They are working on it. They even set the groundwork to trade up to take Mike Pouncey this season. They know Ben is the offense. They are doing what they can to help him and give him what he wants.

If Ben wants to extend his career, he does needs to continue to develop as a QB and get rid of the ball on time more often. It would be best for his health. With Wallace, Brown, and Sanders, we can no longer say that our receivers aren't getting separation. If Ben wants to become a better rhythm passer, he will. I believe he will.

Pahn711
09-07-2011, 02:44 PM
They even set the groundwork to trade up to take Mike Pouncey this season.

What do you mean by "groundwork", cause the media hyped it up much more than it was. Sure if they fell to him in the late 20's maybe, but they were not gonna bet the farm.

hawaiiansteel
09-07-2011, 06:52 PM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.
Rockon

In Bouchette's chat, which is posted in another thread, he mentioned that the Steelers were bringing in 4-5 players and that it was a due diligence type thing. No word on who was brought in aside from the two that got reported.

To say that they aren't evaluating corners seems speculative, at best.

TE Jeff Dugan and OG Donald Thomas are two more players who worked out for the Steelers on Tuesday.

flippy
09-07-2011, 09:43 PM
I guess I'm missing something here. I just don't understand the obsession of bringing in receivers(arguably the srongest, deepest unit on the team) every week, meanwhile, standing pat with the cornerbacks(arguably the weakest, thinnest unit) that are currently on the team. It just doesn't make much sense to me.
Rockon

In Bouchette's chat, which is posted in another thread, he mentioned that the Steelers were bringing in 4-5 players and that it was a due diligence type thing. No word on who was brought in aside from the two that got reported.

To say that they aren't evaluating corners seems speculative, at best.

TE Jeff Dugan and OG Donald Thomas are two more players who worked out for the Steelers on Tuesday.

How dare they work out a TE and OG. Those too are deep positions for this team.

Steel Life
09-07-2011, 11:09 PM
I agree that they're working on line with bringing in Kugler, the extension of of Colon & the drafting of Pouncey & Gilbert. But Pouncey's development wasn't forseen, Gilbert is an unknown & Colon has yet to play a real game yet - so let's keep it in perspective. And as such look for perspective in the fact that none of our OL cast-offs are gobbled up by other teams. So while it's true that the line will at times get credited for a sack that's more a result of Ben's propensity to keep plays alive, the truth is that Ben always makes this line look better than it is.

Slapstick
09-07-2011, 11:30 PM
On the other hand...

Pouncey's development wasn't foreseen, but they did spend a first round pick on an offensive lineman...

Gilbert is an unknown at this point, but they did spend a premium pick on an offensive lineman....

Colon hasn't seen regular season action yet this year, but he is a young offensive lineman (regarded by many as the Steelers' best offensive lineman before Pouncey was drafted, though not on this message board) in the prime of his career who had an offer on the table from another team, for more money, yet decided to remain with the Steelers...

Colbert and co. are working on improving the line...

ikestops85
09-08-2011, 04:28 PM
I agree that they're working on line with bringing in Kugler, the extension of of Colon & the drafting of Pouncey & Gilbert. But Pouncey's development wasn't forseen, Gilbert is an unknown & Colon has yet to play a real game yet - so let's keep it in perspective. And as such look for perspective in the fact that none of our OL cast-offs are gobbled up by other teams. So while it's true that the line will at times get credited for a sack that's more a result of Ben's propensity to keep plays alive, the truth is that Ben always makes this line look better than it is.

Now I wouldn't say that ... Denver snatched up Hills right away :D