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feltdizz
08-18-2011, 02:22 PM
Now the NFL is carrying over suspensions from college? :wft

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6873163/terrelle-pryor-eligible-nfl-sit-first-five-games


The NFL declared former Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor eligible for the supplemental draft Thursday but ruled that he will not be able to play in the first five games of the 2011 season after he signs a contract.

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RittenbergThe NFL choosing to carry over Terrelle Pryor's college punishment to the pro level -- when no laws were broken -- seems odd and inconsistent, ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg writes.

The league announced Pryor was eligible in a memo sent to its 32 teams Thursday. The 2011 supplemental draft, originally scheduled for Aug. 17, will take place Aug. 22.

The NFL said that Pryor can play in preseason games after he is drafted and signs, but he is not eligible to practice with his new team or play in a game until Week 6 of the season. Pryor will be allowed at his new team's training facility for meetings and to work with coaches during the time he is ineligible, however.

"... Pryor made decisions that undermine the integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL Draft," the league said. "Those actions included failing to cooperate with the NCAA and hiring an agent in violation of NCAA rules, which resulted in Ohio State declaring him ineligible to continue playing college football.

"Pryor then applied to enter the NFL after the regular draft. Pryor had accepted at the end of the 2010 college football season a suspension for the first five games of the 2011 season for violating NCAA rules. Pryor will be ineligible to practice prior to or play in the first five games of the NFL regular season after he signs."



Terrelle Pryor's agent Drew Rosenhaus comments on the NFL's decision to allow Pryor into the supplemental draft and says Pryor will have a pro day workout Saturday in Pittsburgh.



An NFLPA source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter that the union recommended Pryor fight the five-game suspension but Drew Rosenhaus, Pryor's agent, and David Cornwell, Pryor's attorney, believed it was a losing battle and that Pryor should accept the NFL's punishment and move on.

However, a source close to Pryor told ESPN's Joe Schad: "There is a cooperative environment between the NFL and NCAA. But there should be concern that the NFL would become an enforcement arm of the NCAA."

The source also expressed concern that this decision could set a precedent that would enable the NFL to suspend and/or fine future incoming rookies based on NCAA violations.

Rosenhaus told ESPN's "SportsCenter" on Thursday that his client will hold a pro day workout Saturday afternoon in Pittsburgh and will run the 40-yard dash, do agility drills and throw passes.

Rosenhaus also said that NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith and commissioner Roger Goodell worked together for the arrangement that will allow Pryor into the draft with the five-game suspension.

"The five games we happily agreed to, voluntarily," Rosenhaus said. "The alternative wasn't very attractive. We're grateful for the chance."

Rosenhaus, who called Pryor a "first-round talent," said he wouldn't try to predict when Pryor would be drafted Monday due to the "abbreviated" nature of the NFL's decision just days before the draft. He did say however, that he was confident that Pryor would be selected Monday.

Rosenhaus said Pryor was "elated" when he informed his client of the NFL's decision. Pryor tweeted Thursday morning: "God bless and thanks for support! Time to have a little fun!!"



Personally, I hope this causes everyone to pause and conclude that we must challenge the NCAA on its 'amateurism' rules. Terrelle is going to the NFL because the NCAA mandated that he feed their families, but he could not feed his own.
-- Attorney David Cornwell

Cornwell said he and Pryor were happy with the NFL's decision but said the NCAA must be challenged on its "amateurism" rules.

"Ultimately we are pleased that Terrelle will have the opportunity to fulfill his dream to dream to play in the NFL," Cornwell said. "Personally, I hope this causes everyone to pause and conclude that we must challenge the NCAA on its 'amateurism' rules. Terrelle is going to the NFL because the NCAA mandated that he feed their families, but he could not feed his own."

If he hadn't been ruled eligible, Pryor would have had to wait until the regular April 2012 draft.

In order to qualify for the supplemental draft, a player must show that his status has changed -- such as being declared academically ineligible by his school -- after the NFL's regular college draft has been held.

A star with the Buckeyes for three years, Pryor and several teammates were suspended for the first five games of the upcoming season for receiving improper benefits from a Columbus tattoo-parlor owner. The quarterback subsequently left school, hoping he'd be eligible for the supplemental draft.

Pryor, regarded as the nation's top quarterback recruit coming out of high school, had three terrific seasons for the Buckeyes. Ohio State's career-leading rusher among quarterbacks with 2,164 yards also tied a school mark with 57 touchdown passes.

As a freshman, he led Ohio State to an 8-1 record as a starter and was the Big Ten freshman of the year. Pryor led the Buckeyes to the Big Ten title the following season and a victory in the Rose Bowl, in which he was named the game's MVP after beating Oregon 26-17.

QBs in Supplemental Draft

Pryor There is good news and bad news for Terrelle Pryor and agent Drew Rosenhaus. A quarterback hasn't been taken in the supplemental draft since 1992 ... but all five QBs selected were taken in the first round.


As a junior, Pryor had his best season statistically, throwing for 2,772 yards and 27 touchdowns with 11 interceptions. He also ran for 754 yards and four scores while helping the Buckeyes to a 31-26 victory over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.

But shortly before the Sugar Bowl, it was revealed that Pryor and other players traded Buckeyes memorabilia for cash and discounted tattoos. In the following months, it became clear that coach Jim Tressel knew about the improper benefits in spring 2010 but didn't inform his bosses, as was required under his contract and NCAA rules. Tressel was forced out of his job May 30 and Pryor left Ohio State soon after.

Tressel acknowledged knowing his players were taking improper benefits but covered it up for more than nine months before Ohio State officials discovered the violations.

Five other players are eligible to be drafted Monday: former Georgia running back Caleb King, former Northern Illinois safety Tracy Wilson, former Western Carolina cornerback Torez Jones, former Lindenwood University defensive end Keenan Mace, and former North Carolina defensive end Michael McAdoo.

Forty players have been selected in the NFL supplemental draft since its inception in 1977.

Teams submit picks to the league and if their bid is the highest, they receive the player but lose the corresponding draft pick in the following year's regular draft

steelblood
08-18-2011, 02:46 PM
If he'd consider playing WR and maybe eventually TE, I'd take him in the 3rd or 4th. If he is a QB only, no thanks.

SteelCrazy
08-18-2011, 03:17 PM
That doesnt make any sense. How in the hell does the NFL justify that suspension? That is opening a huge door by doing this to Pryor. They'll have to do it to every player coming out of college that has been in some kind of a scandal.

hawaiiansteel
08-18-2011, 03:31 PM
sorry Shawn... :D

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Notleadpoisoned
08-18-2011, 03:32 PM
If he'd consider playing WR and maybe eventually TE, I'd take him in the 3rd or 4th. If he is a QB only, no thanks.
IMHO Pryor has as much of a chance of becoming a solid NFL QB as Cam Newton does.

insanesteelersfan
08-18-2011, 05:17 PM
I don't think what Goodell did was wrong at all. Pryor agreed to sit out 5 games last season by allowing him to play in the BCS Bowl game. Now he wants to leave Ohio State, and circumvent the rules by going into the supplemental draft and play right away ? The only thing that concerns me is what team can draft Pryor, and give him a guaranteed roster spot of the 53 players. Cause no way does that team try and keep him on the PS for a year, cause then a team WILL pluck Pryor off that PS, and then have him for no draft pick being surrendered. If I had to guess, a team like Cincy,,,who needs a young QB and has a history of taking Home town guys from Ohio State. Or I can see the Raiders, the MAVRICKS of the league taking Pryor based solely on the fact that Al Davis LOVES his speed guys.

feltdizz
08-18-2011, 05:43 PM
If he'd consider playing WR and maybe eventually TE, I'd take him in the 3rd or 4th. If he is a QB only, no thanks.
IMHO Pryor has as much of a chance of becoming a solid NFL QB as Cam Newton does.
Cam has a rocket arm. Pryor's passing game isn't that good. He throws a lot of balloons. Cam throws that skinny post and 15 yard out a rope.

Anyways I think the suspension is wrong. Pryor didn't agree to the suspension to play in the BCS bowl. He was suspended if he came back to OSU. Since he decided not to return why should he serve the suspension? What about Reggie Bush? Pete Carroll and these Miami players?

DukieBoy
08-18-2011, 11:52 PM
Pryor just does not look like an NFL QB to me. His future is either in sports memorabilia or playing WR or TE.

hawaiiansteel
08-19-2011, 12:01 AM
August 18, 2011

Roger Goodell merges NFL, NCAA

By Tim Keown
ESPN.com


In a development that surprised even the most seasoned observers, the NFL/NCAA merger took place Thursday when commissioner Roger Goodell suspended NCAA miscreant Terrelle Pryor for the first five games of the NFL season.

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Terrelle Pryor has been working wth QB coach Ken Anderson to train for the five games he won't be able to play.

The decision marks a bold statement for the new league, tentatively renamed the NFLAA pending formation of its new television network. Goodell's decision to give himself jurisdiction over college improprieties sent shock waves throughout the college landscape. The city of Miami -- home to a reported 72 athletes with booze, women and money issues with the old NCAA -- was hardest-hit.

Pete Carroll could not be reached for comment.

Pryor, the former Ohio State quarterback, is believed to be the first employee in history to be punished before being hired. He will, however, be eligible for Monday's supplemental draft. If he is chosen -- and follow along closely, because this gets confusing -- he will be allowed to complete training camp with his new team but will then be suspended for five games without pay. During that time, he will not be allowed to practice.

All of which means the team drafting Pryor will get to see him for a couple of weeks of training camp before warehousing him for five games while he takes up a roster spot. It's sort of like redshirting, which may be another NCAA rule Goodell has decided to co-opt. Whatever the case, it does not appear to enhance Pryor's appeal to a team in his new league.

Given the near-mythical impossibility of rookie quarterbacks learning even the simplest aspects of an NFL playbook, it seems unlikely that Pryor will be of any near-term use to the team that drafts him.

The NFL choosing to carry over Pryor's college punishment to the pro level -- when no laws were broken -- seems odd and inconsistent, ESPN.com's Adam Rittenberg writes.
Goodell cited Pryor's offense as undermining the "integrity of the eligibility rules for the NFL draft." He did not provide a definition for the phrase, but apparently it's a concept that allows the commissioner to collude with the NCAA to grandfather penalties and restrict access to the professional league. For instance, Goodell offered no opinion on whether "integrity of the ... draft" extended to the imposition of artificial age restrictions on draft eligibility -- restrictions that many observers feel exist solely to maintain the status and money-making ability of the NCAA while ensuring that Goodell's league does not have to spend money training its own workforce.

Under the current format, the draft's integrity dictates that someone with the talent and physical attributes displayed by Adrian Peterson while running for 1,900 yards as a freshman at Oklahoma must spend two more years at Old State U before getting paid a salary commensurate to his talents. The average length of an NFL career -- roughly 3.5 years -- is presumably not a consideration under Goodell's definition of integrity.

Goodell's motives for his pre-emptive punishment of Pryor are as unclear as the reasons why the NFLPA reportedly allowed agent Drew Rosenhaus to accept the deal without a fight. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello cited Article 8.6 of the NFL constitution and bylaws, which -- broadly speaking -- states, "The commissioner is hereby authorized to do whatever the hell he wants, whenever the hell he wants, for whatever the hell reason he sees fit."

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If Terrelle Pryor was expecting a parade to welcome his arrival in the NFL, he was sadly mistaken.

Critics suggest this is another example of a professional sports league engaging in a little quid pro quo with the allegedly amateur organization that provides it with talent. Goodell's decision to "honor" Pryor's five-game Ohio State suspension by transferring it to the NFL is eerily similar to the NBA/NCAA collusion on NBA age limits.

John Calipari could not be reached for comment.

By extending his jurisdiction to the college ranks and forming the combined NFLAA, Goodell is serving notice that their rules are his rules, and his rules are all rules. There is, make no mistake, nowhere to hide.

Goodell apparently believes Pryor's suspension will serve as a deterrent to college athletes who might now think twice before taking money, attending parties or receiving sexual favors as a result of their connection to wealthy boosters. The fact that such a postulate flies in the face of human nature and everything everybody knows about 18- to 22-year-old men did not factor into the decision.

However, it is unclear whether Miami players who either did or did not partake in Nevin Shapiro's numerous booze-and-flooze cruises would have thought twice about indulging in the free distribution of their most primal desires had they known Pryor will have to miss the first five games of the 2011 season.

"Oh, definitely," said a source close to the situation. "If we'd see all those available women and all those wads of cash now, the first thing we'd think about is Terrelle Pryor having to sit out five games."

It is unknown what role NCAA president Mark Emmert will have under Goodell in the new organizational structure. There is speculation that Emmert will take over the reins of the soon-to-be-announced National Collegiate High School Association (NCHSA), which will merge college and high school sports in much the same way the NFLAA merges the professional and the collegiate.

Among other things, Emmert's potential new job would give him the ability to suspend high school players from competing in college for transgressions committed equally out of context.

"Parking tickets, tardy slips, detentions -- everything could be in play," lamented a high school senior who requested anonymity. "Rumors are flying. One of my buddies said two late hits and you automatically have to go to community college."

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