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hawaiiansteel
08-07-2011, 09:46 PM
Projecting the Steelers’ 53-Man Roster and Other Goodies (V 1.0)

Posted on August 7, 2011 by ted


This initial projection assumes that the Steelers do not sign any other free agents and do not lose any players to season-ending injuries. Obviously the projected 53-man roster could change if key players were lost for significant time.

Moreover, the outcomes of many of the key roster battles, such as No. 3 QB, No. 3-4 RB, No. 6 WR, No. 2 TE and No. 4-6 CB, will largely be determined by performances in training camp and in actual preseason games. Thus, this list – particularly the practice squad projections – will likely be altered in the coming weeks. However, with so many veteran reserves returning, the Steelers’ 53-man roster is probably more set than any team in the NFL at this point.

53-Man, Opening-Day Roster
** = Roster Lock (95% or better barring major injury or arrest)
* = Roster Near Lock (75-94% barring major injury or arrest)
No stars = Clinging to the 53-man roster at this point

QB Ben Roethlisber **
QB Byron Leftwich *
QB Charlie Batch
RB Reshard Mendenhall **
RB Isaac Redman **
RB Baron Batch
RB Mewelde Moore
TE Heath Miller **
TE/FB D.J. Johnson **
TE John Gilmore *
WR Mike Wallace **
WR Hines Ward **
WR Emmanuel Sanders **
WR Antonio Brown **
WR Arnaz Battle *
WR Limas Sweed
LT Jonathan Scott **
LG Chris Kemoeatu **
C Maurkice Pouncey **
RG Ramon Foster **
RT Willie Colon**
C/G/FB Doug Legursky **
T Marcus Gilbert **
RT/G Chris Scott *
G Keith Williams

DE Aaron Smith **
NT Casey Hampton **
DE Brett Keisel **
DE Ziggy Hood **
NT Chris Hoke **
DE Cameron Hewayrd **
NT/DE Steve McLendon
OLB James Harrison **
OLB LaMarr Woodley **
OLB Jason Worilds **
OLB Chris Carter *
ILB James Farrior **
ILB Lawrence Timmons **
ILB Larry Foote *
ILB Stevenson Sylvester **
SS Troy Polamalu **
FS Ryan Clark **
S Ryan Mundy **
S Will Allen *
CB Ike Taylor **
CB Bryant McFadden *
CB William Gay *
CB Curtis Brown **
CB Crezdon Butler
CB Cortez Allen

K Shaun Suisham **
P Daniel Sepulveda *
SN Greg Warren *

Opening Game-Day Inactives (7): RB Baron Batch, WR Limas Sweed, OT Marcus Gilbert, OG Keith Williams, NT/DE Steve McLendon, CB Crezdon Butler, CB Cortez Allen

Last 12 Released From Camp (in order of how close they are to making team and their position matters): 1. QB Dennis Dixon, 2. CB Keenan Lewis, 3. RB Jonathan Dwyer, 4. WR Tyler Grisham, 5. OT Tony Hills, 6. P Jeremy Kapinos, 7. TE Weslye Saunders, 8. S Damon Cromartie-Smith, 9. LB Mario Harvey, 10. DE Sunny Harris, 11. RB John Clay, 12. NT Anthony Gray

Last 12 To Make the Team (in order of likelihood of being cut and their position matters): 1. NT/DE Steve McLendon, 2. QB Charlie Batch, 3. WR Limas Sweed, 4. RB Mewelde Moore, 5. CB Crezdon Butler, 6. RB Baron Batch, 7. CB Cortez Allen, 8. P Daniel Sepulveda, 9. OG Keith Williams, 10. TE John Gilmore, 11. ILB Larry Foote, 12. S Will Allen

Practice Squad (8): RB John Clay, WR Wes Lyons, TE Weslye Saunders, T Kyle Jolly, OL Either one of the four rookie free agents from Steelers’ training camp or someone released from another team, NT Anthony Gray, LB Mario Harvey, S Damon Cromartie-Smith

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/08/p ... #more-5938 (http://www.steelerslounge.com/2011/08/projecting-steelers-53man-roster-goodies-10/#more-5938)

Slapstick
08-08-2011, 08:07 AM
This probably isn't far from the final roster...

flippy
08-08-2011, 09:40 AM
Lefty, Moore, BMac, Gay, and Sepulveda should have '**'s since these are locks imho.

I also might add Dixon, Tony Hills, Tyler Grisham, Keenan Lewis, and Mario Harvey over Batch, Williams (PS), Battle, Will Allen, and Larry Foote.

We don't need Battle and Allen for STs with all the young guys that contribute. Maybe one but not both. And Grisham offers more potential at WR which we may need with Ward and Sanders.

Batch seems too old and he's not going to sign anywhere else, so he'll be just a call away if we need him. So that's why Dixon.

Hills - not sure, but seems we may need an extra T. He's gonna have to show something in camp.

And Keenan Lewis seems like the #1 CB backup behind either Ike or BMac and we could potentially put one of the DBs at S. Not sure which, but we should be ok with Mundy backing up both safeties and developing one of the young guys. Allen probably has a better shot than Battle if we're gonna keep a ST specialist just because we may need a vet backup safety to contribute.

And then my surprise pick is Harvey over Foote. I have a feeling Harvey will be a beast in the preseason and offers just too much potential to overlook. And Foote's just a backup. We really don't need him. And Harvey could really make a name for himself on ST.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
08-08-2011, 10:07 AM
- Based on what's been coming out of camp, I would go Lewis over Crezdon Butler.

- I think that C. Batch is out because they would prefer not to expose Dixon. Maybe try to trade DD if some team finds themselves in a bind.

- I would put Chris Carter on the PS and let Timmons slide over if need be during a game emergency. Carter is not strong enough to compete. That could give us an extra Olineman or DB.

- I just get the feeling that they will hold onto Anthony Gray - and I don't know why I feel this. Maybe at the expense of McLendon, maybe another position player.

- If Sweed can't get on the field, he might be replaced by either Grisham, Lyons, or Terrence McCrae.

- We might need to keep Jolly on the roster in order to play it safe at T. That could come at the expense of the 6th WR, McClendon/Gray, Carter etc.

Slapstick
08-08-2011, 01:03 PM
Jolly won't be signed by anyone off the PS...assuming he's eligible...

I think the Steelers will keep 6 WRs again...if necessary, the 6th WR will be released later in the season...

If Keenan Lewis, Ctrezdon Butler or Curtis Brown can show anything at Nickel DB, why keep Gay? The Steelers let Gay pursue other FA opportunities...there were none...

Why is he considered a lock?

phillyesq
08-08-2011, 01:24 PM
Unfortunately, I think Hills will stick around as the backup LT.

I could see Saunders replacing David Johnson. Dale Lolley has also been promoting Jamie McCoy to replace Johnson.

DB will be interesting. From the early reports in camp, I'd guess that Keenan Lewis may get one more shot.

If they go with 6 WRs again, I think it could easily be Grisham over Sweed. I'd love to see Sweed reach his potential as much as anybody here, but the constant little injuries aren't going to help his chances of making the team. I also saw a report where he dropped a pass and blamed it on a wrist that he dinged up a few plays earlier, reminiscent of when he was "injured" after dropping the pass against the Ravens.

AkronSteel
08-08-2011, 03:57 PM
Here's my early predictions at this point! I'm sure it will change between now and 9/11.

QB (3)
Roethlisberger
Leftwich
Dixon

RB (4)
Mendenhall
Redman
Moore
Batch

WR (6)
Wallace
Ward
Sanders
Brown
Battle
Free Agent or Sweed

TE (3)
Miller
Free Agent
Johnson (FB)

OL (10)
Scott
Kemoeatu
Pouncey
Foster
Colon
Legursky
C Scott
Williams
Gilbert
Free Agent Tackle (Flozell Please)

DL (6)
Smith
Hampton
Keisel
Hood
Hoke
Heyward

LB (8)
Harrison
Timmons
Farrior
Woodley
Worilds
Foote
Sylvester
Carter

DB (10)
Taylor
McFadden
Polamalu
Clark
Lewis
Gay
Brown
C. Allen
W. Allen
Mundy

SP (3)
Suisham
Sepulveda
Warren

That is a solid group to take into the season. The OL is what really worries me but that has been the problem for years. I think the DB's will be better than most of us anticipate. There is a lot of young talent there. I think the team will be picking up some veteran Free Agents to help fill some holes on the team currently......OL, TE, and WR are all areas that could need attention. WR is solid but there are injury concerns in that group for sure. The team needs a veteran tackle to either start or add depth. A second blocking tight end is needed as well. I don't want DJ in that position.

AkronSteel
08-08-2011, 04:26 PM
The team could keep an extra LB and one less OL if they can find a real solid T in free agency that they feel can fill both spots!!! I would actually prefer it that way!!! One more LB for special teams!!!

NJ-STEELER
08-08-2011, 05:59 PM
would lewis even be eligible for the practice squad?

Slapstick
08-08-2011, 06:26 PM
would lewis even be eligible for the practice squad?

No.

NJ-STEELER
08-08-2011, 10:56 PM
would lewis even be eligible for the practice squad?

No.



That's what I thought. At least he wouldn't be eligible for our PS. maybe he would be for another team. Like Joe Burnett last year

Slapstick
08-09-2011, 08:03 AM
Practice Squad Eligibility
According to league policy, only certain types of players are allowed to sign to the practice squad. Players cannot have played more than nine regular season games or been on the active roster for an entire year, nor can players be allowed to spend more than two seasons on the same team's squad unless that team's active roster never dips below 53 players.


Keenan Lewis was on the 45-man game day roster for 9 games in 2010...I think that makes him ineligible for ANY practice squad...

Chadman
08-09-2011, 06:24 PM
53 man roster...ok, let's see if I can get this right...

QB- 3
Ben Roethlisberger
Byron Leftwich
Dennis Dixon

RB- 4
Rashard Mendenhall
Isaac Redman
Mewelde Moore
Barron Batch

TE- 3
Heath Miller
Reggie Kelly
DJ Johnson (FB)

WR- 6
Mike Wallace
Hines Ward
Emmanual Sanders
Limas Sweed
Antonio Brown (KR/PR)
Arnaz Battle

OL- 9
Jonathon Scott
Chris Kemoeatu
Maurkice Pouncey
Ramon Foster (Back-up LT)
Willie Colon
Doug Legursky
Chris Scott (Back-up RT)
Keith Williams
Marcus Gilbert (Back-up LT)

DL- 6
Aaron Smith
Casey Hampton
Brett Keisel
Ziggy Hood
Cameron Heyward
Chris Hoke

LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Stephenson Sylvester
Jason Worilds
Baraka Atkins
Chris Carter

DB- 10
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Willie Gay
Curtis Brown
Keenan Lewis
Ryan Mundy
Will Allen
Cortez Allen

ST- 3
Shaun Suisham
Daniel Sepulveda
Greg Warren

PS- 8
Crezdon Butler
Wesley Saunders
Jamie McCoy
Mario Harvey
Kyle Jolly
Terrence McRae
Jarrett Crittendon
Anthony Gray

grotonsteel
08-09-2011, 08:31 PM
Why no mention of LB Mortty Ivy?


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Mortty Ivy– The Gateway graduate has been a pleasant surprise. He has good instincts and is fast enough to be a playmaker.

WR Tyler Grisham – The Steelers are looking for a receiver outside the organization. Maybe they need to start looking what’s on their roster. Grisham has been solid by catching everything thrown his way. He is having a difference-making camp for him.

WR Antonio Brown — This kid has done it all — catching, running routes, making plays, throwing the ball, fielding punts. He sees an opportunity with Emmanuel Sanders being hurt and isn’t about to let it slip through his hands. Might just be a breakout year for him.

WR Wes Lyons — Good at times, bad at times. Could be a practice squad guy if he can be more consistent. Has great size (6-8) but haven’t yet seen him use it to his advantage.

RB Jon Dwyer — Some people are just not practice people and Dwyer just might be one of those players. He doesn’t look good at all, but that doesn’t mean he won’t lead the team in rushing in the preseason. This guy confuses me.

RB Baron Batch — Definitely has talent and the smarts, but is a little undersized. Although he is listed at 5-10, 210, don’t buy it. He came out of the gates on fire but has cooled as of late. Still, he has been very impressive.

LB Chris Carter — INCONSISTENT. Looks all-world at times and looks totally out of it at other times.

OL Keith Williams — Gonna be a player. He has a mean streak and is real physical. Every practice so far you notice him, so you know he has to be doing something right.

CB Curtis Brown and CB Cortez Allen — N/A. Can’t make the team in the tub. Although they probably will make the team anyways.

CB Keenan Lewis – Has all the talent in the world, but just don’t think he gets it yet. That’s fine. Remember, it took a while for Ike Taylor and even Deshea Townsend to get on the field, too.

OL Chris Scott – Sat out his entire rookie year last year with a foot injury, but has really impressed the coaches enough to put him in at starting right guard. Don’t be stunned if he starts opening day at right guard over Legursky and Foster.

WR Limas Sweed — Another inconsistent and fragile player. He needs to show more than he has or he will be gone.

DE Cameron Heyward – Another rookie who is getting better and better everyday. What stands out with him is that he is always around the ball whether it is 2 yards down the field or 50.

LB Stevenson Sylvester — Probably going to be the next superstar linebacker on this team. He just needs not to chase plays and realize plays will come to him if he is in position.

hawaiiansteel
08-14-2011, 01:58 PM
Keith Williams, Marcus Gilbert and Tony Hills all looked pretty decent against the Redskins. Does this mean we possibly carry 10 OL on this year's 53-man roster?

J. Scott-Kemo-Pouncey-Foster-Colon

Hills-Williams-Legursky-C. Scott-Gilbert

Oviedo
08-14-2011, 04:58 PM
Practice Squad Eligibility
According to league policy, only certain types of players are allowed to sign to the practice squad. Players cannot have played more than nine regular season games or been on the active roster for an entire year, nor can players be allowed to spend more than two seasons on the same team's squad unless that team's active roster never dips below 53 players.


Keenan Lewis was on the 45-man game day roster for 9 games in 2010...I think that makes him ineligible for ANY practice squad...

Is Sweed eligible for the PS?????????

RuthlessBurgher
08-14-2011, 11:41 PM
LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Stephenson Sylvester
Jason Worilds
Baraka Atkins
Chris Carter

I suspect we have some fuzzy Aussie math here... :wink:

Oviedo
08-15-2011, 08:18 AM
LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Stephenson Sylvester
Jason Worilds
Baraka Atkins
Chris Carter

I suspect we have some fuzzy Aussie math here... :wink:

Atkins is practice squad material so the math works out when you stand upside down all day on the bottom of the world. :wink:

hawaiiansteel
08-20-2011, 02:20 AM
Crystal ball gazing

August 19th, 2011

The Steelers have to set their 53-man roster in two weeks. As such there is plenty that can happen when you take into account the specter of injuries and the fact that there are still two exhibition games for players to fight their way onto the roster –- or play their way off it.

That said, here is an early guess at what the 53-man roster will look like after final cuts.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon.
Skinny: Dixon and Charlie Batch are a coin flip right now.

RB: Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman, Mewelde Moore and Jonathan Dwyer.
Skinny: Dwyer on more solid footing after inauspicious start to camp.

WR: Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Jerricho Cotchery, Emmanuel Sanders and Arnaz Battle.
Skinny: Have Battle here as a special teams player though that spot is still up for grabs.

TE: Heath Miller, David Johnson and John Gilmore.
Skinny: Johnson is a lock; same can’t be said yet of Gilmore.

OL: Jonathan Scott, Chris Kemoeatu, Maurkice Pouncey, Doug Legursky, Willie Colon, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams.
Skinny: Chris Scott odd man out here — for now.

DL: Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood, Chris Hoke, Cameron Heyward and Steve McLendon.
Skinny: Hoke can play DE in a pinch, allowing Steelers to carry three NTs.

LB: LaMarr Woodley, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, James Harrison, Larry Foote, Stevenson Sylvester, Jason Worilds and Chris Carter.
Skinny: Carter on bubble; has to show more in final two preseason games.

CB: Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Keenan Lewis, Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen.
Skinny: Could see the Steelers keeping a seventh cornerback if Allen has to take the equivalent of a redshirt season.

S: Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Ryan Mundy and Will Allen
Skinny: Steelers are set here.

K: Shaun Suisham.
P: Daniel Sepulveda.
LS: Greg Warren.
Skinny: No surprises here.

http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/201 ... ll-gazing/ (http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2011/08/19/crystal-ball-gazing/)

Keyplay1
08-22-2011, 03:47 PM
OK hawaiiansteel. You're updated Aug 19 is making it much clearer. It is still a bit too early for some of us to take a shot at this but the thread was getting dangerously close to going off the page.

One thing I feel confident about is the Steelers won't be letting go of their #1 pick Cam Heyward so since all 6 DL from last year are back something will change there for sure. I see you had 7 listed and this is probably going to be the case. Only I do not have Steve McClendon instead I will probably keep Nick Eason. Eason has improved every year and I think he will be the new Travis Kirschke. Cut by everyone every year yet kept because he is too good to let go now. Although, since I do not think he has ever played inside there is a chance that William Gray could be kept instead.

DE Eason, Heyward, Hood, Keisel, A. Smith-------5

NT Hampton, Hoke

Hmm! That does look a little unbalanced, but until next Monday it will have to do.

The following is just for laughs. But I would consider doing this if I were in a position to do so. Say I have a player ---take Anthony Gray for example---- ok. this player is showing surprising promise and the coaches definitely would like to keep him at least on the PS but if he is showing too much there is the danger of his being claimed.

Well, I would instruct the player to get knocked down every play, chase the wrong ball carrier, etc etc. Then take him out point a finger at him and have him sit down. This might keep the player from being claimed. Of course, he and his agent are aware they will be signed to the PS with a good chance of soon making it to the 53.

But, I abandoned this idea since I guess it might not be in the best interests of the player. Since this is a business it would probably be in the best interests of the player to get to a final 53 anywhere anyway he could.

Is there not a significant difference in minimum 53 salary and PS money?

Keyplay1
08-22-2011, 04:11 PM
Unbelieveable. I have been focusing so much on the secondary that I did not notice that Nick Eason is not even on the roster. What happened to him? Darn it! There goes my ace in the hole to make the team and he's gone. Apparently, no sleep was being lost by a lot of fans over this since I really did not ever see anything about it. Oh well, that does help simplify the final 53 and probably give some unknown at this time a real shot at making the team.

Ok I looked very little is said but as of July 29, 2011 he is an Arizona Cardinal. I suppose with the addition of a #1 pick at his position ---the numbers game--- gave him a push to move on. Like I said though, I would have kept him.

hawaiiansteel
08-22-2011, 04:16 PM
Steelers: Countdown to Cutdown

Posted: Sunday, August 21, 2011
By Mike Bires mbires@timesonline.com

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/timesonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/f/75/f75ae090-df20-5813-993f-14460141c49d/4e51cc32ad806.preview-300.jpg

Despite last week's impressive preseason win over Michael Vick and the Eagles, some players still don't have a prayer of making it on the Steelers' roster.


With the season opener just 20 days away, the Steelers continue the process of putting together a team they expect will contend for the Super Bowl.

As of now, there are still 90 players on their roster. Fifteen must go by Aug. 30. Then on Sept. 3, coach Mike Tomlin and director of football operations Kevin Colbert must decide which 53 they'll start the year with.

As the Steelers begin preparations for Saturday's third preseason game -- they host the Falcons on Saturday -- here's a look at some of their issues position-by-position:

QUARTERBACK

No team has a collection of QBs as talented as the Steelers. Ben Roethlisberger is a legitimate star with three Super Bowl appearances, and he's only 29. Backup Byron Leftwich has had an excellent preseason and has 47 career starts in the league.

Charlie Batch and Dennis Dixon are jockeying for the No. 3 job, and either way that competition turns out, it won't really matter as both are more than adequate to fill that role. Batch, 36, has 52 career starts. Dixon, a fourth-year pro, is 2-0 in games he started and finished, including a win in Baltimore two years ago.

RUNNING BACK

With Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman and Mewelde Moore set as the top three backs, the Steelers are set as well at running back. Jonathan Dwyer will no doubt make the team now that rookie seventh-round pick Baron Batch is done for the year with a knee injury.

Forget about John Clay. He may have rushed for over 1,000 yards in each of his last two seasons at Wisconsin and he may have been the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year in 2009, but there are reasons he didn't get drafted. Namely, he's slow and he can't block. Maybe he makes the practice squad.

WIDE RECEIVER

There is growing concern about second-year pro Emmanuel Sanders, who broke his right foot in the Super Bowl and then developed a stress fracture in his left foot during the off-season. Early in camp, he aggravated the injury in his left foot and hasn't practiced since.

Though the organization is excited about Sanders' potential -- he caught 28 passes last year during the regular season and five more in the playoffs -- the Steelers can only hope his foot problems aren't chronic.

The good news at wide receiver is that recent free-agent acquisition Jerricho Cotchery is a proven veteran play-maker.

TIGHT END

Offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who likes to use three-tight end packages, is trying to figure out who that third man will be behind starter Heath Miller and backup David Johnson.

The Steelers did sign 10th-year pro John Gilmore early in training camp. They're intrigued by the pass-catching potential of free agent Wesyle Saunders, who was ineligible to play his senior season at South Carolina. But the Steelers must not be impressed with their blocking ability. That's probably why they switched rookie free agent Miguel Chavis from defensive line to tight end. There are now seven tight ends on the roster.

OFFENSIVE LINE

Even before tackles Jonathan Scott and Marcus Gilbert suffered hyper-extended knee injuries in Thursday's preseason game against the Eagles, there's been speculation that Flozell Adams may be re-signed. The injuries to Scott and Gilbert aren't thought to be serious. But don't be surprised if Adams, a salary cap cut on July 30, or another tackle is signed as insurance.

At right guard, it's starting to look like the Tony Hills experiment is working. He seems to be making a smooth transition from tackle and could be the opening-day starter.

DEFENSIVE LINE

It appears that the only roster battle is at backup nose tackle where Chris Hoke, the No. 2 man for several seasons, is trying to fight off the challenge of Steve McLendon.

Anthony Gray, an undrafted free agent out of Southern Mississippi, is an interesting study. He's only 5-foot-11 but he's 330 pounds and strong as a bull. He bench pressed 225 pounds 39 times during his pro day. Look for him to make the practice squad and challenge for a roster spot next year.

Also, don't be surprised if Ziggy Hood keeps the starting job at left defensive end, a job he inherited last year when Aaron Smith got hurt.

LINEBACKER

Will the Steelers keep eight or nine?

If it's eight, inside 'backer Monty Ivy will likely land on the practice squad. If it's nine, Ivy will probably make the team.

Rookie Chris Carter, a fifth-round draft pick, won't be cut. He has to put on some weight, but the Steelers like his explosiveness on the edges.

SECONDARY

Due to injuries, cornerback is the position with the most question marks. No less than four corners missed the Eagles game (starters Ike Taylor and Bryant McFadden, second-year pro Crezdon Butler and rookie Cortez Allen).

It's too early to give up on third-year pro Keenan Lewis and Butler, who's in his second year. The Steelers drafted two corners this year: Curtis Brown in the third round and Allen in the fourth. While Brown is a keeper, Allen has been bothered by a hamstring pull for most of the preseason. He might be a candidate for the injured reserve list or practice squad.

The newcomer who should land a roster spot is Donovan Warren, a former Michigan star who went un-drafted in 2010. Warren, who signed with the Jets last year only to be cut and sitting out the entire season, has played very well so far for the Steelers this preseason.

SPECIAL TEAMS

The Steelers are set with Shaun Suisham as kicker and Greg Warren as long snapper. After re-signing unrestricted free agent Dan Sepulveda, it would appear that matters are settled at punter, too. But Jeremy Kapinos, who was signed last year when Sepulveda was hurt, is still on the roster.

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hawaiiansteel
08-23-2011, 02:04 AM
the signing of Trai Essex may very well change this somewhat...


Monday, August 22, 2011
posted by Dale Lolley

Looking at 53


With two preseason games now in hand and training camp over, it's time to start thinking about how the Steelers' roster will shake down.

Here's how I see it right now:

QB (3) - Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich, Dennis Dixon. I'm keeping Dixon over Charlie Batch because if you cut Dixon, somebody else will sign him. If Batch is released, he's not likely to sign elsewhere and you can always bring him back if there is a need. Dixon, however, could be trade bait.

RB (4) - Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman, Mewelde Moore, Jonathan Dwyer. Dwyer makes the roster after the injury to Barron Batch. The Steelers could keep an eye on the waiver wire here to see if somebody of value gets cut free.

OL (10) - Willie Colon, Maurkice Pouncey, Chris Kemoeatu, Jonathan Scott, Doug Legursky, Tony Hills, Chris Scott, Ramon Foster, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams. The Steelers could go with nine here and try to sneak Williams onto the practice squad. Or they could keep a guy like Kyle Jolly on the active roster. But things are pretty cut and dried, barring an injury.

WR (5) - Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, and Jerricho Cotchery. Arnaz Battle could be kept around, but something tells me they'll need an extra roster spot for defensive backs. Plus, with the new kickoff rule in place, special teams isn't as important as it was before.

TE (3) - Heath Miller, David Johnson, Wesyle Saunders. Veteran John Gilmore has shown little. Saunders really hasn't, either, but he's got the potential to get better. This will be a position where the Steelers will be watching the waiver wire for help.

DL (6) - Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood, Cameron Heyward, Chris Hoke. Corbin Bryant is a guy pushing here. It's possible that he's shown enough that if the Steelers try to sneak him onto the practice squad, one of the other 3-4 teams in the league will snatch him up. But because they almost have to keep 10 defensive backs, you have to find a roster spot somewhere.

LB (9) - James Harrison, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, LaMarr Woodley, Chris Carter, Jason Worilds, Larry Foote, Stevenson Sylvester, Morty Ivy. Ivy gets a roster spot as a special teams ace.

DB (10) - Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Will Allen, Ryan Mundy, Keenan Lewis, Curtis Brown, Donovan Warren. This is a tough decision with Warren getting a roster spot over Cortez Allen, who has practiced too little to be of any help, and safety Da'Mon Cromartie-Smith. It wouldn't be a surprise to see a veteran cut loose here - Gay or even McFadden - to open a spot for a younger player. This is easily the toughest position on the team to cut because many of the players are so similar and health has been an issue throughout training camp.

Specialists (3) - Greg Warren, Daniel Sepulveda, Shaun Suisham.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

Chadman
08-23-2011, 02:13 AM
LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Stephenson Sylvester
Jason Worilds
Baraka Atkins
Chris Carter

I suspect we have some fuzzy Aussie math here... :wink:

Atkins is practice squad material so the math works out when you stand upside down all day on the bottom of the world. :wink:

Damn....that's what you get when you don't figure it out on paper before you type it on here....trust Ruthless to be dorky enough to actually count the players afterwards....

ikestops85
08-23-2011, 11:38 AM
LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Stephenson Sylvester
Jason Worilds
Baraka Atkins
Chris Carter

I suspect we have some fuzzy Aussie math here... :wink:

Atkins is practice squad material so the math works out when you stand upside down all day on the bottom of the world. :wink:

Damn....that's what you get when you don't figure it out on paper before you type it on here....trust Ruthless to be dorky enough to actually count the players afterwards....

Ruthless --> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_laVijb7zLYY/SvDkVT9qcdI/AAAAAAAAAQQ/yLH1T-2DWGs/s400/breathe10.jpg

RuthlessBurgher
08-24-2011, 03:40 PM
Dixon, a fourth-year pro, is 2-0 in games he started and finished, including a win in Baltimore two years ago.

Dixon didn't win that game against Baltimore. He took it to OT, but then threw an INT that gave the Ravens the ball back in FG range for the game-winner.

hawaiiansteel
08-25-2011, 04:32 PM
The Steelers’ 53-Man Roster: The Defense

Written on August 22, 2011 by Ed Smallwood


There are very few jobs available on the Steelers’ defense. The club returns all 11 starters that took the field against Green Bay in Super Bowl XLV, and also welcomes back nearly every top backup from the defensive unit that allowed the fewest points in the NFL and which led the NFL in rushing defense by an astounding margin (the Bears finished 2nd in the NFL against the run, but they were closer to finishing 18th in rush defense than they were to finishing 1st). Age is becoming something of a concern with the unit, as 9 of the 11 expected opening day starters are 29 or older, but the organization has done a very good job at drafting and developing young talent that will contribute now and step in and start in the future.


DEFENSIVE LINE

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Brett Keisel's beard...and Brett Keisel

Locks: Casey Hampton, Brett Keisel, Aaron Smith, Ziggy Hood, Cam Heyward

Bubble In: Chris Hoke

Bubble Out: Steve McLendon, Anthony Gray

With the return of Aaron Smith, who has played in only 11 games the last two seasons, will serve to bolster a defense line that already ranked among the best in the NFL. Smith and Ziggy Hood figure to share time at LDE, with Casey Hampton entering his 11th season at NT and Brett Keisel his 10th at RDE. Keisel will be backed up by #1 pick Cam Heyward out of Ohio State, and Heyward has been extremely impressive in camp and in preseason action. Hood and Heyward will likely be the starters at DE in 2012, if not sooner.

NT Chris Hoke, who has ably backed up Hampton since 2004, was re-signed in the offseason, but is being challenged by Scott McLendon for the job. McLendon has been on and off the Steelers’ practice squad the past two seasons, receiving limited action. Rookie UDFA Anthony Gray has been impressive in camp, but Gray is almost certainly bound for the practice squad.


LINEBACKER

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ILB Lawrence Timmons


Locks: James Harrison, Lamarr Woodley, James Farrior, Lawrence Timmons, Stevenson Sylvester, Jason Worilds, Larry Foote, Chris Carter

Bubble: Mortty Ivy

Possessing the usual embarassment of riches at LB, the Steelers appear to have uncovered another potential impact player in 5th round draft choice Chris Carter out of Fresno State. Carter played most DE in college and thus will need significant time to learn to play OLB in the NFL, but playing behind James Harrison and Lamarr Woodley will enable him and 2010 2nd round pick Jason Worilds to be eased into the NFL. James Farrior and Lawrence Timmons will be backed up by Larry Foote and Stevenson Sylvester. The only question remaining to be answered at LB is whether the team will keep 8 or 9. The Steelers broke camp with 9 last year, but had to let Thaddeus Gibson go midseason due to a roster crunch. Should the team keep 9, local guy Mortty Ivy, who has been extremely impressive in camp and the preseason after spending two seasons on Carolina’s practice squad, will be the 9th guy.


SAFETY

Locks: Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Ryan Mundy, Will Allen

Move along, nothing to see here. These will be the four safeties when the season opens.


CORNERBACK

Locks: Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, Curtis Brown, William Gay

Bubble: Keenan Lewis, Cortez Allen, Crezdon Butler, Donovan Warren

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CB Ike Taylor

The only position of any suspense on the Steelers’ defense, there are 8 guys battling for 6-7 spots on the roster. Taylor and McFadden, both of whom have missed good portions of the preseason with injuries, should be the starters for the opener. Rookie 3rd round pick Curtis Brown has been impressive, but has also missed a good deal of time with injury. William Gay was re-signed to be the nickel back, and he plays nearly exclusively in the slot.

After this, it gets interesting. Keenan Lewis was in the mix for a starting job during the 2010 preseason, but had a disasterous performance when given a start in Denver, getting beaten left and right, committing two personal fouls, and destroying a portion of the locker room after the game. Lewis came into camp firmly on the bubble, but got the start against Philadelphia last week and played very well, probably ensuring himself a roster spot. Cortez Allen, the 4th round choice out of The Citadel, is a project whose development has been slowed due to, yep, injury. If the Steelers think they can get him through waivers onto the practice squad, he may be a candidate, but he’s more likely to be on the 53-man roster and be a regular inactive. Crezdon Butler, a late round pick in 2010 who impressed the coaching staff in the preseason, figured to be in the mix for a job this fall, but he has also missed a good portion of time with injury.

The potential beneficiary of the rash of injuries to the Steelers’ CB’s is Donovan Warren. Warren left Michigan early to declare for the 2010 draft, but had terrible workouts and went undrafted. Warren spent the 2010 season on the Jets’ practice squad. Warren has made the most of the opportunites afforded by the injuries to the other CB’s, and has placed himself firmly in the mix to make the 53-man roster.

PUNTER:

Bubble In: Daniel Sepulveda

Bubble Out: Jeremy Kapinos

Daniel Sepulveda, when healthy, is one of the better punters in the NFL. Sepulveda, however, is injured more often than any other punter in NFL history, having missed all of the 2008 season and a portion of the 2010 season with separate torn ACL’s. Jeremy Kapinos was signed to replace Sepulveda when Sepulveda had ACL II and stuck with the team through the Super Bowl, but Sepulveda has the better leg and almost certainly will win the job.

Countdown: 20 days until Baltimore.

http://isportsweb.com/2011/08/22/steele ... r-defense/ (http://isportsweb.com/2011/08/22/steelers-53man-roster-defense/)

birtikidis
08-25-2011, 05:44 PM
I wouldn't call BMac a "lock"

hawaiiansteel
08-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Saturday, August 27, 2011
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Roster shapes up


Coach Mike Tomlin referred to the game against the Falcons as "a big game for a lot of people." But, the reality is that most of the 53-man roster and nearly all the contested positions already are set, barring injuries.

Offensively, Tony Hills will start at right guard for the second game in a row, and, unless he does something to disprove what the coaches think, he will be the starting right guard Sept. 11 in Baltimore.

The one draft choice who probably won't make the team is offensive guard Keith Williams, their No. 6 pick from Nebraska. His spot on the 53-man roster was jeopardized when the team re-signed veteran offensive lineman Trai Essex.

The one spot that remains unsettled is the No. 3 tight end. David Johnson will be the top backup to Heath Miller and will be paired on the line in a lot of two-tight end sets -- unless a veteran tight end becomes available during the final roster cutdowns.

If not, 10-year veteran John Gilmore, first-year free-agent Jamie McCoy and rookie Weslye Saunders will battle for the third spot.

Defensively, roster composition could determine if a ninth linebacker such as free-agent Mortty Ivy or a seventh cornerback such as Crezdon Butler makes the team.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11239/11 ... z1WFSukV4Z (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11239/1170286-66-0.stm#ixzz1WFSukV4Z)

hawaiiansteel
08-27-2011, 03:21 PM
The Steel Mill - News and updates about the Pittsburgh Steelers


The first 10

August 27th, 2011


It won’t be long after Saturday’s third preseason game against Atlanta that the Steelers will make their first cuts.

All NFL teams have to be down to 80 players by August 30. The number was originally 75, but the NFL recently announced that the increased the number to 80.

The big cut will come four days later when teams will have to release 27 players to get down to 53.

So who will be the first 10 to go?

Well, obviously not too many important players knowing that the NFL upped the training camp roster by 10 for this year.

Either way, here are the first 10 who will get the visit from the turk this weekend.

WR — Eric Greenwood
TE — Vaughn Charlton
OL — Colin Miller
PK – Swayze Waters
DL — Jarett Crittendon
LB — Chris McCoy
DB — Niles Brinkley
S — Brent Greenwood
RB — James Johnson
RB — Baron Batch placed on IR

The next cut will be a little more difficult, wouldn’t you say?

– Mark Kaboly

http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/201 ... -first-10/ (http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2011/08/27/the-first-10/)

ramblinjim
08-27-2011, 04:30 PM
There are going to be four or five guys that won't make the team that are pretty darned good football players or at least seem to have some serious upside.

buckeyehoppy
08-27-2011, 05:52 PM
The one draft choice who probably won't make the team is offensive guard Keith Williams, their No. 6 pick from Nebraska. His spot on the 53-man roster was jeopardized when the team re-signed veteran offensive lineman Trai Essex.

This sucks, because once he's cut it'll take a small miracle for him not to get claimed for some other team's PS. He's had a good camp and scouts take notice of things like that. And all for a player who is a dependable backup with no real hope of ever becoming a regular NFL starter. If Williams ends up on our PS, I'll personally be shocked.

buckeyehoppy
08-27-2011, 06:00 PM
There are going to be four or five guys that won't make the team that are pretty darned good football players or at least seem to have some serious upside.

Agreed. I made mention of Williams to HS. But the Steelers usually have this problem and the results are typical since we are always in the hunt. There shouldn't be a drop off from this SB loss because too many AFC teams have ??? and the Steelers are stronger all around than most teams in the conference.

When you are talking about cutting guys like Williams, McLendon and Keenan Lewis, that should say something about your team's overall depth.

NJ-STEELER
08-27-2011, 09:08 PM
i'll be surprised if he doesnt wind up on our PS

hawaiiansteel
08-31-2011, 02:02 AM
Inside look at the Steelers updated depth chart

Tue, Aug 30th, 2011 by DePaoli

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Depth Chart Buzz

The Steelers released their updated depth chart last night and made four more cuts this morning to get down to the mandatory 80-man roster. The team must have their roster at 53 by Saturday, September 3rd. Here is an updated look at the current depth chart released by the team.

Some of the changes on the depth chart are believed to be pointed towards Thursday's preseason finale and not necessarily how things will look for week 1.

Offense

Decisions that still need to be made on the offensive side of the ball include: the No. 2 quarterback with the injury to Byron Leftwich, starting right guard position, final depth spots on the O-line, No. 3 tight end spot and whether to carry five or six receivers.

Quarterbacks

1st team: Ben Roethlisberger - 2nd team: Charlie Batch - 3rd team: Dennis Dixon

QB Buzz: Charlie Batch will likely open the season as the No. 2 QB.

Running Backs

1st team: Rashard Mendenhall - 2nd team: Isaac Redman - 3rd team: Mewelde Moore - 4th team: Jonathan Dwyer - 5th team: James Johnson - 6th team: John Clay

RB Buzz:The top four is set with Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman, Mewelde Moore and Jonathan Dwyer.

Wide Receivers

1st team: Hines Ward - 2nd team: Antonio Brown or Jerricho Cotchery - 3rd team: Tyler Grisham

1st team: Mike Wallace - 2nd team: Emmanuel Sanders - 3rd team: Arnaz Battle - 4th team: Wes Lyons

WR Buzz: The only dilemma for the Steelers coaching staff is keeping everyone happy as the Steelers are 5 deep with true impact receivers in Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery. One decision the team must make is whether to carry 5 receivers or go with 6 again and keep Arnaz Battle on the roster as a special teams performer. Bruce Arians last week hinted at wanting to keep Battle around.

Tight Ends

1st team: Heath Miller - 2nd team: David Johnson - 3rd team: John Gilmore - 4th team Jamie McCoy - 5th team: Weslye Saunders

TE Buzz: The top two spots are locked in with Heath Miller and David Johnson. Veteran John Gilmore is currently listed as the No. 3 tight end but has shown little in camp and in the preseason. However, Gilmore has the experience factor over McCoy and Saunders.

Offense Line

Left Tackle

1st Team: Jonathan Scott - 2nd team: Marcus Gilbert - 3rd team: Trevis Turner

Left Guard

1st Team: Chris Kemoeatu - 2nd team: Ramon Foster - 3rd team: Keith Williams - 4th team: John Malecki

Center

1st team: Maurkice Pouncey - 2nd team: Trai Essex - 3rd team: Colin Miller

Right Guard

1st team: Doug Legursky - 2nd team: Tony Hills - 3rd team: Trai Essex

Right Tackle

1st Team - Willie Colon - 2nd team: Chris Scott - 3rd team: Kyle Jolly

OL Buzz: Tony Hills ran 1st team right guard in yesterday's practice and sounded quite confident that he would be back in that spot for Thursday night's preseason finale. The Steelers though on Monday night quietly released their updated depth chart that had Doug Legursky listed as the 1st team right guard. However, that doesn't mean he's the starter going into week 1.

Legursky has spent bulk of camp and the preseason at left guard and center. One thing to keep in mind is that who opens the season as the starting right guard probably won't be the one who's starting at the end of the season, just like last year. Legursky lost his starting right guard job (started 4 games in 2010) last season to Ramon Foster who is now listed as the backup left guard.

The Steelers last season kept 9 offensive linemen. They could keep 9 or go with 10 this season. With there being strong indications that Trai Essex will stick around, rookie Keith Williams appears headed to the practice squad and Chris Scott's spot on the 53-man roster could be in danger.

Defense

The toughest decision will come at cornerback where they have only carried 6 cornerbacks under Mike Tomlin in a particular season. Other intriguing decisions will be made at defensive tackle where Steve McLendon is really coming on but remains behind Chris Hoke on the depth chart. The Steelers last season carried 6 defensive linemen to open the season but keeping seven this season can't be ruled out.

The Steelers also have to decide whether to carry 8 or 9 linebackers. Last year they opened the season with 9 but ended season with 8 after releasing Thaddeus Gibson.

Seven spots are currently locked in with LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, James Farrior, James Harrison, Jason Worilds, Larry Foote and Stevenson Sylvester.

Defensive Line

Left Defensive End

1st team: Aaron Smith - 2nd team: Ziggy Hood - 3rd Team: Jarrett Crittenton

Nose Tackle

1st team: Casey Hampton - 2nd team: Chris Hoke - 3rd team: Steve McLendon

Right Defensive End

1st team: Brett Keisel - 2nd team: Cameron Heyward - 3rd team: Corbin Bryant
DL Buzz:With the age of Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke, a strong argument can be made for the Steelers to carry seven defensive linemen (instead of six) with Hampton, Hoke and McLendon at DT and Smith, Hood, Keisel and Heyward at DE.

Linebackers

Left Outside Linebacker

1st team: LaMarr Woodley - 2nd team: Baraka Atkins - 3rd team: Chris Carter

Left Inside Linebacker

1st team: James Farrior - 2nd team: Stevenson Sylvester - 3rd team: Mario Harvey

Right Inside Linebacker

1st team: Lawrence Timmons - 2nd team: Larry Foote - 3rd team: Mortty Ivy

Right Outside Linebacker

1st team: James Harrison - 2nd team: Jason Worilds - 3rd team: Chris Carter - 4th team: Chris McCoy

LB Buzz:Mortty Ivy, Baraka Atkins and Chris Carter are battling for the final one or two spots. The Steelers like rookie Mario Harvey but he's been behind the eight-ball due to injuries. There has been an assumption that 5th round pick Chris Carter will make the team, despite his struggles to stay healthy and lack of size for the outside linebacker position. When drafted, he was considered a project and the Steelers are intrigued by his potential.

Cornerbacks

Left Cornerback

1st team: Bryant McFadden - 2nd team: Keenan Lewis - 3rd team: Donovan Warren - 4th team: Curtis Brown - 5th team: Macho Harris

Right Cornerback

1st team: Ike Taylor - 2nd team: William Gay - 3rd team: Crezdon Butler - 4th team: Cortez Allen

CB Buzz: 8 Players are in the mix for arguably 6 spots.

Safeties

Strong Safety

1st team: Troy Polamalu - 2nd team: Will Allen - 3rd team: Da'mon Cromartie -Smth

Free Safety

1st team: Ryan Clark - 2nd team: Ryan Mundy - 3rd team: Brett Greenwood
Safety Buzz:The top four safeties are locked in with Polamalu, Clark as the starters and Allen, Mundy as the primary backups.

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story ... art/42081/ (http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/what-to-read-into-the-steelers-updated-depth-chart/42081/)

Chadman
09-02-2011, 01:56 AM
Alright, let's have another look, post-pre season...


QB- 3
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon

RB- 4
Rashard Mendenhall
Issac Redman
Mewelde Moore
Jonathon Dwyer

WR- 5
Hines Ward
Mike Wallace
Emmanual Sanders
Antonio Brown
Jerricho Cotchery

TE- 3
Heath Miller
David Johnson
Weslye Saunders

OL- 9
Jonathon Scott (LT)
Chris Kemoeatu (LG)
Maurkice Pouncey (OC)
Doug Legursky (RG)
Willie Colon (RT)
Tony Hills (OG/OT)
Ramon Foster (OG/OT)
Marcus Gilbert (OT)
Trai Essex (OT/OG/OC)

DL- 7
Aaron Smith
Casey Hampton
Brett Keisel
Ziggy Hood
Cameron Heyward
Chris Hoke
Steve McLendon

LB- 9
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Jason Worilds
Stevenson Sylvester
Mortty Ivy
Chris Carter

CB- 6
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Keenan Lewis
Curtis Brown
Cortez Allen
Donovan Warren

S- 4
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Ryan Mundy
Will Allen

ST- 3
Shaun Suisham
Daniel Sepulveda
Greg Warren

As you can see, I've opted for only 5 WR's in order to fit the extra DL in McLendon who I suspect they want to have stick around. We rarely get past the #4 WR anyway, so having 5 really covers the need & the Steelers can always split Heath or Johnson out if required- even Moore if necessary. I'd imagine 2-3 WR's might be PS worthy- Grisham & Lyons notably, plus I'd imagine they'll add another if they actually go with only 5 WR's.

The Steelers would probably keep either Chris Scott or Williams plus an OT (Jolly?) on the PS too.

I can't see what Gilmore adds over Saunders & I'm hoping the coaches feel the same way. They could try to sneak Saunders onto the PS & add a FA- but I doubt it.

By keeping McLendon, only Corbin Bryant is a 'casualty'- ie, a guy that COULD make the team but doesn't. Bryant could go on the PS, but if other teams have been watching, probably not. But with McLendon, Hood & Heyward on the team, suddenly the DL isn't so old.

At LB- I suspect the team likes Ivy's attitude too much to let him go. Carter, for mine, is the 'bubble' guy- he could be the last man on the roster. Atkins likely hasn't done enough to displace him. Harvey is injured too much to be assessed properly & will likely be PS material.

CB- THE POSITION. I expect that, given that no CB has performed any worse than Willie Gay, that this makes Gay vulnerable. Gay probably needed to be BETTER than Lewis, Butler & Brown. He was, at best, on the same level. Lewis has stepped up & could be the #3 CB on the roster. Brown is the likely slot CB in the future, but for now that role might be taken by Crezdon Butler, who looks sleek in coverage. Or maybe Lewis gets that chance- hard to say. 1 game was enough to show Cortez has some ability. He could move to FS & replace Will Allen- Willie Gay's real only chance of survival. Donovan Warren has been solid. I don't think any of us would be too surprised if he started in the slot at some point this season.

Safety- The only surprise would be if the Steelers decide to keep Willie Gay, which I suspect could mean the end for Will Allen. Cromartie-Smith might go back on the PS.

BradshawsHairdresser
09-02-2011, 09:10 AM
Pretty good summary.

I, too, think Gay should be cut, but I would be shocked if he actually is. This is Tomlin/LeBeau we are talking about. Unfortunately, I think Gay stays and someone more worthy than he gets the axe. :(

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
09-02-2011, 09:29 AM
The one draft choice who probably won't make the team is offensive guard Keith Williams, their No. 6 pick from Nebraska. His spot on the 53-man roster was jeopardized when the team re-signed veteran offensive lineman Trai Essex.

This sucks, because once he's cut it'll take a small miracle for him not to get claimed for some other team's PS. He's had a good camp and scouts take notice of things like that. And all for a player who is a dependable backup with no real hope of ever becoming a regular NFL starter. If Williams ends up on our PS, I'll personally be shocked.

I can't see another team specifically looking to our practice squad for OL help.

flippy
09-02-2011, 09:30 AM
I'll go with Chadman's list and make 2 changes - Gay makes it, Will Allen doesn't.

And Roadhouse makes it over Sushi cause of his better leg and his leg helps justify getting rid of Allen and Battle.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
09-02-2011, 10:15 AM
QB- 3
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon

Lefty will be waived/injured. He will be there if they need him when he is healthy.

RB- 4
Rashard Mendenhall
Issac Redman
Mewelde Moore
Jonathon Dwyer

Good RB group. Clay might sneak on PS.

WR- 5
Hines Ward
Mike Wallace
Emmanual Sanders
Antonio Brown
Jerricho Cotchery

I believe with the new rules for kick off and the CB raw talent, Battle will miss out.

TE- 3
Heath Miller
David Johnson
Weslye Saunders

I have seen enough from Saunders and not enough from Gilmore to know Saunders won't clear waivers and a "Gilmore" could be had off the street if needed.

OL- 9
Jonathon Scott (LT)
Chris Kemoeatu (LG)
Maurkice Pouncey (OC)
Doug Legursky (RG)
Willie Colon (RT)
Tony Hills (OG/OT)
Ramon Foster (OG/OT)
Marcus Gilbert (OT)
Trai Essex (OT/OG/OC)

Difficult here. I like the upside of Scott & Williams but the Steelers like the versatility of Essex. Hopefully both Williams & Scott clear to PS. I would rather Williams on the 53 and believe he is a better G than Essex but his lack of position flexibility as a rookie seems to have him headed to the PS. I hope that is not a mistake.

DL- 7
Aaron Smith
Casey Hampton
Brett Keisel
Ziggy Hood
Cameron Heyward
Chris Hoke
Steve McLendon

Hoke is still capable and I fear loyalty might drive the Steelers to decision that may cost them a young player who showed some promise. Bryant may not be as reliable at his position as Hoke but I don't know if he will clears waivers. McLendon has show he can spell Hampton but Hoke has shown he can hold down that spot for several games if needed and McLendon is unproven at that.

LB- 8
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Jason Worilds
Stevenson Sylvester
Chris Carter

Ivy did impress but he still might be a PS player this year. Harvey may be another.

CB- 7
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Keenan Lewis
Curtis Brown
Crezdon Butler
William Gay
Cortez Allen

Talk about a log jam of unproven young players versus topped out vets. I really would like to see one of McFadden or Gay go instead of chancing a young raw player to the PS. It's hard to think Warren will sneak by and clear waivers. However, he fits this system better so that may work in the Steelers favor.

S- 4
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Ryan Mundy
Will Allen

Cromartie-Smith may be a year late in pushing Allen off the roster. If he doesn't do it this year, he might be headed to PS. I do expect a high draft choice next year at this position so his window may never open.

ST- 3
Shaun Suisham
Daniel Sepulveda
Greg Warren

It would not suprise me to see Kapinos make the 53 over Sepulveda.

PS
C Scott
K Williams
T Grisham / W Lyons
M Ivy / M Harvey
D Warren
Cromartie-Smith
C Bryant
J Clay / J Mccoy

SidSmythe
09-02-2011, 10:42 AM
I say we cut BOTH McFadden and Gay and go with a youth movement at CB.
I couldn't stand Keenan Lewis before this preseason, but now he's worth a look only b/c he's improving.

-Taylor
-Lewis
-Warren
-Butler
-Allen
-Brown

RuthlessBurgher
09-02-2011, 12:24 PM
I'll play:

QB 3
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon

RB 4
Rashard Mendenhall
Issac Redman
Mewelde Moore
Jonathan Dwyer

WR 5
Mike Wallace
Hines Ward
Antonio Brown
Jerricho Cotchery
Emmanuel Sanders

TE 3
Heath Miller
David Johnson
Weslye Saunders

OL 9
Jonathon Scott
Chris Kemoeatu
Maurkice Pouncey
Doug Legursky
Willie Colon
Tony Hills
Trai Essex
Ramon Foster
Marcus Gilbert

DL 7
Aaron Smith
Casey Hampton
Brett Keisel
Ziggy Hood
Chris Hoke
Cameron Heyward
Steve McLendon

LB 9
James Harrison
Lawrence Timmons
James Farrior
LaMarr Woodley
Jason Worilds
Larry Foote
Stevenson Sylvester
Chris Carter
Mortty Ivy

DB 10
Ike Taylor
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Bryant McFadden
Ryan Mundy
Keenan Lewis
Crezdon Butler
Donovan Warren
Curtis Brown
Cortez Allen

ST 3
Swayze Waters
Daniel Sepulveda
Greg Warren

PS 8
Wes Lyons
Jamie McCoy
Kyle Williams
Chris Scott
Corbin Bryant
Mario Harvey
Da'Mon Cromartie-Smith
Macho Harris

focosteeler
09-02-2011, 01:02 PM
QB- 3
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon

RB- 4
Rashard Mendenhall
Issac Redman
Mewelde Moore
Jonathon Dwyer

WR- 6
Hines Ward
Mike Wallace
Emmanual Sanders
Antonio Brown
Jerricho Cotchery
Wes Lyons

TE- 3
Heath Miller
David Johnson
Weslye Saunders

OL- 9
Jonathon Scott (LT)
Chris Kemoeatu (LG)
Maurkice Pouncey (OC)
Doug Legursky (RG)
Willie Colon (RT)
Tony Hills (OG/OT)
Ramon Foster (OG/OT)
Marcus Gilbert (OT)
Trai Essex (OT/OG/OC)

DL- 7
Aaron Smith
Casey Hampton
Brett Keisel
Ziggy Hood
Cameron Heyward
Steve McLendon
Corbin Bryant

LB- 9
James Harrison
James Farrior
Lawrence Timmons
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Jason Worilds
Stevenson Sylvester
Mortty Ivy/Mario Harvey (dunno which to choose)
Chris Carter

CB- 6
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Keenan Lewis
Crezdon Butler
Curtis Brown
Cortez Allen

S- 3
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Ryan Mundy

ST- 3
Shaun Suisham
Daniel Sepulveda
Greg Warren


PS
Chris Scott
Keith Williams
Tyler Grisham
Mortty Ivy / Mario Harvey
Da'Mon Cromartie-Smith
John Clay
Donovan Warren (i hope we can keep him)
Jamie McCoy

I wanted to keep 7 CB'sand 8 LB's but I dont think that will happend. I chose to cut Will Allen (I dont know why but I really want to have Wes Lyons on the roster), and Chris Hoke (keep the Mclendon and Bryant, we will probably need a DE back up for one of our 1st round picks next year)

hawaiiansteel
09-03-2011, 11:00 PM
Steelers Final 5 Cuts Are In, 53 Man Roster Set

by John Stephens on Sep 3, 2011


The final cuts are G/T Tony Hills, CB Crezdon Butler, P Jeremy Kapinos, TE John Gilmore, and DE J.Crittenton. Two extremely surprising cuts in Hills and Butler. I did not see either of those coming. Hills was trying out for the starting RG position a week ago and now he is off the roster? Also, Butler just came off a great performance against the Falcons and has good potential.

Offense:

QB - Ben Roethlisberger, Charlie Batch, Dennis Dixon

RB - Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman, Mewelde Moore, Jonathan Dwyer

WR - Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Jerricho Cotchery, Emmanuel Sanders, Arnaz Battle

TE - Heath Miller, David Johnson, Wesyle Saunders

OL - Willie Colon, Jonathan Scott, Chris Kemoeatu, Doug Legursky, Maurkice Pouncey, Trai Essex, Ramon Foster, Marcus Gilbert, Chris Scott

Defense:

DL - Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel, Casey Hampton, Evander "Ziggy" Hood, Cameron Heyward, Chris Hoke, Steve McLendon

LB - James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley, Lawrence Timmons, James Farrior, Jason Worilds, Chris Carter, Stevenson Slyvester, Larry Foote

CB - Ike Taylor, Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Cortez Allen, Curtis Brown, Keenan Lewis

S - Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Will Allen, Ryan Mundy

ST - Shaun Suisham, Daniel Sepulveda, Greg Warren

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/

RuthlessBurgher
09-03-2011, 11:13 PM
Labriola on 53-man roster
By Bob Labriola - Steelers Digest

Posted 5 hours ago

The first wave of roster moves could be considered mundane. The 21 cuts included only a single player who ever had lined up for the Pittsburgh Steelers in a game, and that player – Tyler Grisham – had one career catch in the last four games of the 2009 regular season. The big news to come from the roster moves the Steelers made on Sept. 2 was the decision to place Byron Leftwich on the injured reserve list, a move that sidelines Leftwich for the entire 2011 NFL season.

The second wave of roster cuts, well, not so mundane.

The Steelers went into Saturday, Sept. 3 needing to make five more moves before the 6 p.m. deadline established by the NFL for all teams to be at the 53-player roster limit for the start of the regular season.

Jarrett Crittenton was expected. The eighth defensive lineman on the depth chart when the day began, and he had not done anything sufficiently notable during the preseason to leave the impression he was a real option to beat out either Chris Hoke or Steve McLendon.

After that, General Manager Kevin Colbert and Coach Mike Tomlin had some difficult decisions to make. The roster seemed to be one player heavy at each of these positions – offensive line, tight end, punter and cornerback.

The decision to release Tony Hills ended quite a roller coaster ride for the former No. 4 pick from Texas. It had been said that Hills showed a spark during camp in 2010, and then in 2011 he had a chance to cement the starting right guard job for himself with a strong performance in the third preseason game, which happened to be against the Atlanta Falcons. But Hills didn’t impress the coaches, and Doug Legursky won the job with his play in the preseason finale and will start at right guard against the Ravens in Baltimore next weekend.

Hills’ release also indicates the Steelers are pleased with the progress of second-round pick Marcus Gilbert. The rookie from Florida had arrived at training camp unprepared for its demands, and he promptly injured a hamstring and became a spectator. Gilbert finally got himself onto the field, and his play against continued to improve in games against the Eagles, Falcons and Panthers, apparently to the degree where he convinced the coaches he could fill the role of swing tackle entering the regular season.

The other beneficiaries of the decision to cut Hills were second-year pro Chris Scott and Ramon Foster, who started four games in 2009 and 11 in 2010 including all three in the postseason.

The question before the preseason finale was whether a rookie could make the 2011 Steelers without playing a down. That became a moot point when fourth-round pick Cortez Allen got onto the field in the preseason finale. Allen didn’t practice even five times throughout camp while nursing a leg injury, but on his first play in his first preseason game he got a hand on a pass intended for Armanti Edwards that ended up being intercepted by safety Will Allen. Cortez Allen finished the game in Carolina with two tackles and three passes defensed.

That performance, plus his measurables and potential for development, earned Cortez Allen a spot as one of the six cornerback on the roster. Left out as a result was second-year pro Crezdon Butler, but he has practice squad eligibility. It’s doubtful Cortez Allen would have cleared waivers, even if hadn’t played in Carolina.

At tight end, it seemed as though the final spot on the depth chart was going to go to John Gilmore, an unrestricted free agent veteran signed early in camp to be an in-line blocker at the position. But as the preseason progressed, undrafted rookie Weslye Saunders began to make a move, and he played his best game in the preseason finale against the Panthers. In that game, Saunders was a capable blocker, and he also made a nice play on a 15-yard touchdown pass from Dennis Dixon to complete the scoring in the 33-17 win. Saunders had three catches against the Panthers, four on the preseason.

Saunders’ improvement, and the athleticism and measurables he brings to the position made him an interesting prospect, and at the same time David Johnson gave indications that he would be able to serve in the role of No. 2 tight end. Saunders’ potential won the day over Gilmore’s experience.

The final decision to be made was at punter. Daniel Sepulveda or Jeremy Kapinos?

The only issue in this decision seemed to be whether Sepulveda was healthy after undergoing surgery to repair the ACL in his non-kicking leg for the third time. The first surgery came when Sepulveda was at Baylor, the second came in 2008 and the third came last year.

Sepulveda’s health never was an issue this summer, because once he was re-signed and then allowed to practice he has not had any problems. Through three preseason games, Sepulveda averaged 47.1 yards on seven punts, with four downed inside the 20-yard line.

Kapinos, though, made it interesting. He punted twice in Carolina, and both went 63 yards. Those kicks gave Kapinos a ridiculous 49.8-yard average during the preseason. Still, the Steelers chose Sepulveda, who has a 43.4 average in 44 NFL games, over Kapinos, who had a 41.1 average in his four games with the Steelers last season.

Five draft picks made the final roster – Cameron Heyward, Marcus Gilbert, Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen and Chris Carter – plus undrafted rookie Weslye Saunders. Another draft pick – No. 7 Baron Batch – is on injured reserve.

The Steelers plan on competing for a championship this year, and the roster is loaded at every position with the experience often necessary to accomplish that goal. But there also is enough youth to prevent stagnation. It’s a nice blend to start.

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Labriola-on-53-man-roster/87d02870-8b0f-47a9-8b0a-7a24ac02ba21

Dee Dub
09-03-2011, 11:16 PM
For as great as the Steeler organization is, for as intelligent as they are on player personel and scouting, they are completely clueless when it comes to..........

William Gay.

That dude sucks!!

fordfixer
09-04-2011, 12:07 AM
Pittsburgh Steelers cutdown analysis
September, 3, 2011

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_ ... n-analysis (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/31284/pittsburgh-steelers-cutdown-analysis)
By James Walker


Surprise move: I liked cornerback Crezdon Butler. He performed well for the Steelers and made a very strong case to make the team with his performance in the preseason. This was probably the most surprising cut in the AFC North on Saturday.

Offensive lineman Tony Hills was a candidate to start just a couple weeks ago, which made his release pretty surprising. But Hills didn't perform well after numerous opportunities the past few years. The Steelers ran out of patience.

Punter Jeremy Kapinos was edged by Steelers veteran Daniel Sepulveda. Both had solid preseasons. Kapinos has a good chance to land somewhere else.

No-brainers: Despite showing flashes, Tyler Grisham had no shot with Pittsburgh's numbers game at receiver. The Steelers are very deep at the position. Receivers Hines Ward, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery were guaranteed to make the team.

The same goes for running back John Clay, who couldn't work his way past talented running backs Rashard Mendenhall, Isaac Redman and Mewelde Moore. Jonathan Dwyer beat Clay for the final spot with a productive preseason.

What's next: The Steelers won't do much. Their roster is stable and the team escaped the preseason relatively healthy, with the exception of backup quarterback Byron Leftwich (broken arm) and cornerback Ike Taylor (broken thumb). At most, Pittsburgh could add a player or two for depth, perhaps on the offensive line.

hawaiiansteel
09-04-2011, 03:12 AM
Labriola on 53-man roster

By Bob Labriola - Steelers Digest


The Steelers went into Saturday, Sept. 3 needing to make five more moves before the 6 p.m. deadline established by the NFL for all teams to be at the 53-player roster limit for the start of the regular season.

Jarrett Crittenton was expected. The eighth defensive lineman on the depth chart when the day began, and he had not done anything sufficiently notable during the preseason to leave the impression he was a real option to beat out either Chris Hoke or Steve McLendon.

After that, General Manager Kevin Colbert and Coach Mike Tomlin had some difficult decisions to make. The roster seemed to be one player heavy at each of these positions – offensive line, tight end, punter and cornerback.

The decision to release Tony Hills ended quite a roller coaster ride for the former No. 4 pick from Texas. It had been said that Hills showed a spark during camp in 2010, and then in 2011 he had a chance to cement the starting right guard job for himself with a strong performance in the third preseason game, which happened to be against the Atlanta Falcons. But Hills didn’t impress the coaches, and Doug Legursky won the job with his play in the preseason finale and will start at right guard against the Ravens in Baltimore next weekend.

Hills’ release also indicates the Steelers are pleased with the progress of second-round pick Marcus Gilbert. The rookie from Florida had arrived at training camp unprepared for its demands, and he promptly injured a hamstring and became a spectator. Gilbert finally got himself onto the field, and his play against continued to improve in games against the Eagles, Falcons and Panthers, apparently to the degree where he convinced the coaches he could fill the role of swing tackle entering the regular season.

The other beneficiaries of the decision to cut Hills were second-year pro Chris Scott and Ramon Foster, who started four games in 2009 and 11 in 2010 including all three in the postseason.

The question before the preseason finale was whether a rookie could make the 2011 Steelers without playing a down. That became a moot point when fourth-round pick Cortez Allen got onto the field in the preseason finale. Allen didn’t practice even five times throughout camp while nursing a leg injury, but on his first play in his first preseason game he got a hand on a pass intended for Armanti Edwards that ended up being intercepted by safety Will Allen. Cortez Allen finished the game in Carolina with two tackles and three passes defensed.

That performance, plus his measurables and potential for development, earned Cortez Allen a spot as one of the six cornerback on the roster. Left out as a result was second-year pro Crezdon Butler, but he has practice squad eligibility. It’s doubtful Cortez Allen would have cleared waivers, even if hadn’t played in Carolina.

At tight end, it seemed as though the final spot on the depth chart was going to go to John Gilmore, an unrestricted free agent veteran signed early in camp to be an in-line blocker at the position. But as the preseason progressed, undrafted rookie Weslye Saunders began to make a move, and he played his best game in the preseason finale against the Panthers. In that game, Saunders was a capable blocker, and he also made a nice play on a 15-yard touchdown pass from Dennis Dixon to complete the scoring in the 33-17 win. Saunders had three catches against the Panthers, four on the preseason.

Saunders’ improvement, and the athleticism and measurables he brings to the position made him an interesting prospect, and at the same time David Johnson gave indications that he would be able to serve in the role of No. 2 tight end. Saunders’ potential won the day over Gilmore’s experience.

The final decision to be made was at punter. Daniel Sepulveda or Jeremy Kapinos?

The only issue in this decision seemed to be whether Sepulveda was healthy after undergoing surgery to repair the ACL in his non-kicking leg for the third time. The first surgery came when Sepulveda was at Baylor, the second came in 2008 and the third came last year.

Sepulveda’s health never was an issue this summer, because once he was re-signed and then allowed to practice he has not had any problems. Through three preseason games, Sepulveda averaged 47.1 yards on seven punts, with four downed inside the 20-yard line.

Kapinos, though, made it interesting. He punted twice in Carolina, and both went 63 yards. Those kicks gave Kapinos a ridiculous 49.8-yard average during the preseason. Still, the Steelers chose Sepulveda, who has a 43.4 average in 44 NFL games, over Kapinos, who had a 41.1 average in his four games with the Steelers last season.

Five draft picks made the final roster – Cameron Heyward, Marcus Gilbert, Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen and Chris Carter – plus undrafted rookie Weslye Saunders. Another draft pick – No. 7 Baron Batch – is on injured reserve.

The Steelers plan on competing for a championship this year, and the roster is loaded at every position with the experience often necessary to accomplish that goal. But there also is enough youth to prevent stagnation. It’s a nice blend to start.

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/ ... 24ac02ba21 (http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Labriola-on-53-man-roster/87d02870-8b0f-47a9-8b0a-7a24ac02ba21)

BradshawsHairdresser
09-04-2011, 09:52 AM
I'd be surprised if Butler cleared waivers. Someone will pick him up.

Eddie Spaghetti
09-04-2011, 01:51 PM
butler to the cards.

shocking.

hawaiiansteel
09-05-2011, 03:50 AM
Steelers Sunday: Injured Starters ready to go for Baltimore in week 1

Sun, Sep 4th, 2011
By Dale Grdnic

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Tomlin-copy-388x258.jpg

PITTSBURGH -- For the first time this season, the Pittsburgh Steelers were able to get their entire 53-man roster on the field Sunday, and fifth-year coach Mike Tomlin was happy to basically get the regular season under way.

"We were excited about getting out here today to take a look at our football team,'' Tomlin said. "I like a bonus day like today, if you will, the first opportunity for us to take a look at the 53 collectively on the field.

"(And) I think it's important, as we push into Week 1 (before) we travel to Baltimore, that the guys work together and sweat together and get a sense of who they're working with. So, from that standpoint, today was productive.''

Tomlin noted that only one player, rookie linebacker Chris Carter, the team's fifth-round pick from Fresno State this year, did not practice due to a hamstring injury. But all other injured and banged-up players who did not participate in the final preseason game last Thursday at Carolina practiced and appear to be ready to go.

http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story ... k-1/42202/ (http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/steelers-sunday-injured-starters-ready-to-go-for-baltimore-in-week-1/42202/)