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steelerkeylargo
07-28-2011, 03:26 PM
should get done today I am told. :Clap :tt2

papillon
07-28-2011, 03:42 PM
I will raise a :Beer and :Cheers with my wife if they get him signed long term.

Pappy

Steelgal
07-28-2011, 03:54 PM
His is the first jersey I'm buying this year!!! Wanted it last year, but needed to make they got him re-signed. Woohoo!!!!!

steelz09
07-28-2011, 04:00 PM
wow .... thats big

i wasn't sure about Woodley's future with the price tag associated w/ his sack #'s and the fact tha Polamalu, Timmons and Wallce will all be looking at big money within 1 year.

insanesteelersfan
07-28-2011, 04:04 PM
That's good news I guess. But don't be surprised if that deals means the end of Harrison's career in Pittsburgh after this season. No way can they keep both. Especially with young players like Worilds, and C.Carter, and what not.

sentinel33
07-28-2011, 04:36 PM
Yeah. Harrison and Farrior make room for Woodley this year and Timmons next year.
Polamalu will restructure and we will re-sign Wallace.

So far so good.

SMASHMOUTHFOOTBALL
07-28-2011, 05:13 PM
Any links on this--Sorry need proof these days.

steelerkeylargo
07-28-2011, 06:05 PM
Any links on this--Sorry need proof these days.

Not yet....stay tuned.

RuthlessBurgher
07-28-2011, 06:46 PM
Any links on this--Sorry need proof these days.

None of these signings can be finalized until tomorrow at 6:00 p.m.

MeetJoeGreene
07-28-2011, 11:34 PM
Great, great news.....

Of course other teams will continue to get headlines with trades etc......while we go about our business

NorthCoast
07-29-2011, 09:00 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

feltdizz
07-29-2011, 09:35 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

If Harrison never gave that interview he would still be in the same situation. He is 33... had a few back surgeries and we have young studs in waiting. It's what we do... When Woodley is 33 he will be in the same position.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
07-29-2011, 09:42 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

Oviedo
07-29-2011, 10:25 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

:Agree Age and cap hit will combine to make keeping Harrison an luxury we can't affford.

Once we get Woodley locked the the next priorities in order need to be Timmons, Wallace and Troy.

papillon
07-29-2011, 10:40 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

Oviedo
07-29-2011, 10:44 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

Can't resign Troy, Timmons and Wallace with Harrison's cap hit especially if Woodley is getting a market value deal.

Only way I see Harrison staying is if he restructures his contract.

papillon
07-29-2011, 10:59 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

Can't resign Troy, Timmons and Wallace with Harrison's cap hit especially if Woodley is getting a market value deal.

Only way I see Harrison staying is if he restructures his contract.

There will be other veterans next year on the bubble Smith (36), Hampton (34), Ward (36), Clark (32), Farrior (37), Kiesel (33) right off the top of my head that can be used to clear cap space. If the following players under perform they may meet the Turk as well, Kemo, Mcfadden, and Moore. If Harrison is the stud he has been for the last 5 years again this year he won't be released or retire. The fact that the Rooneys have publicly stated that there will be no suspension for his Goodell statements tells you that the Rooneys have high regard for James.

I don't see Harrison's salary being an issue particularly with the number of players who will be on the backside of their 30s by the time next year rolls around. He is still kicking @ss and taking names; it would be foolish to release him provided his health holds up and his play stays at its current level.

Pappy

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
07-29-2011, 11:05 AM
Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

My predition is based on his production this year. Harrison's game is based upon his leverage against larger OT. Back surgeries on James Harrison is a huge sign that a decline is coming. Anytime an OL or a front 7 guy has a back issue it is the beginning of the end in most cases. I hope I am wrong in every way pap...But I haven't seen anyone ever prove it wrong. It hurts to say it Pap. Just could be the reality of what is coming. Worilds time is near. If the decline in production is there...He will on the top of the list.

papillon
07-29-2011, 11:11 AM
[quote=NorthCoast]Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

My predition is based on his production this year. Harrison's game is based upon his leverage against larger OT. Back surgeries on James Harrison is a huge sign that a decline is coming. Anytime an OL or a front 7 guy has a back issue it is the beginning of the end in most cases. I hope I am wrong in every way pap...But I haven't seen anyone ever prove it wrong. It hurts to say it Pap. Just could be the reality of what is coming. Worilds time is near. If the decline in production is there...He will on the top of the list.[/quote:3dqnf8tx]

I don't disagree with that at all. And, that's basically what I was saying, if his production stays up and his health is good, he'll be here next year. If there's a drop off he'll be on that list of vets that may be released next year. But, at this point, of the guys I mentioned in one of the other posts he is clearly out performing every one of them and until that drop off occurs he's a Steeler, IMO.

Pappy

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
07-29-2011, 11:32 AM
[quote=NorthCoast]Harrison did himself no favors with the comments he made in the national rag. When things like that pop up, it makes tough decisions all the more easy to make. He needs to understand that their are players standing right behind him just waiting for their opportunity. The thing we dont know is if any of the young ones have the personality of Harrison...something this defense definitely needs to hold on to.

Harrison is in his last year as a Steeler. That's my feeling.

If Harrison puts up numbers like last year again this year there's no reason to release him. He will still be one of the top 5 linebackers in this league. Ray Lewis is still playing good football at age 36. There's no reason to believe that Harrison can't do the same. Unless, he has a dramatic drop off in play the Steelers will not release him next year and he will not retire.

Of course, this all depends on his back and that is yet to be seen.

Pappy

My predition is based on his production this year. Harrison's game is based upon his leverage against larger OT. Back surgeries on James Harrison is a huge sign that a decline is coming. Anytime an OL or a front 7 guy has a back issue it is the beginning of the end in most cases. I hope I am wrong in every way pap...But I haven't seen anyone ever prove it wrong. It hurts to say it Pap. Just could be the reality of what is coming. Worilds time is near. If the decline in production is there...He will on the top of the list.

I don't disagree with that at all. And, that's basically what I was saying, if his production stays up and his health is good, he'll be here next year. If there's a drop off he'll be on that list of vets that may be released next year. But, at this point, of the guys I mentioned in one of the other posts he is clearly out performing every one of them and until that drop off occurs he's a Steeler, IMO.

Pappy[/quote:2dkv9bf4]
I agree with that & hope for that. If Harrison looks like Harrison...He will remain. I also believe the Steelers are just one SB win away from not having too much salary cap concerns...If you follow me.

hellbanger
07-29-2011, 12:56 PM
so what about Woodley resigning?

RuthlessBurgher
07-29-2011, 01:50 PM
so what about Woodley resigning?

We should find out tonight after 6:00 when signings can become official.

SteelerNation1
07-29-2011, 04:06 PM
Just read that per new league rules, all extensions will be announced after aug 4 or the player will have to miss practice until then. Crazy new rule or something. Look for woodleys extension to be announced then

hellbanger
07-29-2011, 04:56 PM
maybe dumb question, but is that 6 EST?

hawaiiansteel
08-02-2011, 08:08 PM
Steelers talk long-term deal with Woodley

By Dejan Kovacevic, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, August 2, 2011


Steelers linebacker LaMarr Woodley said today the team has approached him about signing a multi-year contract.

In February, the Steelers signed Woodley to a one-year, $10 million contract after using the franchise tag. By signing Woodley to a long-term deal, the Steelers would reduce their salary-cap hit for this season on the pass-rushing specialist.

Woodley, 26, had 10 sacks last season, the third year in a row he reached double digits in that category.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1Tubf6ttn (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_749603.html#ixzz1Tubf6ttn)

NJ-STEELER
08-03-2011, 12:42 AM
jets just locked up david harris who they tagged like we did with lamaar

hawaiiansteel
08-03-2011, 01:28 AM
jets just locked up david harris who they ragged like we did with lamaar


Harris signed a four-year, $36 million deal, with $29.5 million of that guaranteed. if that's the kind of $ it will take to re-sign Woodley and Timmons then how are we going to be able to also sign Wallace and Troy next year?

NJ-STEELER
08-03-2011, 01:34 AM
smith, farrior, hines

hampton soon

these high salaried players wont be around much longer

and i wouldnt break the bank for wallace or timmons yet. they should get nice raises but not close to what some of these guys are getting

hawaiiansteel
08-03-2011, 02:55 PM
we need to get this done soon or more cuts may be coming...


As of Tuesday, seven teams were over the cap

Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2011


We shared with you on Tuesday a list of the teams with more than $20 million in cap space. And we mentioned within the past hour or so that the Eagles still have some breathing room.

Now, its time to look at the teams that had some work to do, as of Tuesday, to get under the spending limit.

Per a source with knowledge of the cap numbers, here are the seven teams that were in the red: Raiders ($17.3 million), Steelers ($11.5 million), Texans ($8.5 million), Vikings ($5.6 million), Lions ($5 million), Cowboys ($3.7 million), and Panthers ($939,000).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... r-the-cap/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/)

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
08-03-2011, 02:59 PM
we need to get this done soon or more cuts may be coming...


As of Tuesday, seven teams were over the cap

Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2011


We shared with you on Tuesday a list of the teams with more than $20 million in cap space. And we mentioned within the past hour or so that the Eagles still have some breathing room.

Now, its time to look at the teams that had some work to do, as of Tuesday, to get under the spending limit.

Per a source with knowledge of the cap numbers, here are the seven teams that were in the red: Raiders ($17.3 million), Steelers ($11.5 million), Texans ($8.5 million), Vikings ($5.6 million), Lions ($5 million), Cowboys ($3.7 million), and Panthers ($939,000).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... r-the-cap/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/)

The Steelers have announced a couple of restructured deals - Ben and Harrison - but have not released the details yet as they want to wait until the fourth to make it official. Those two deals alone should nullify at least 3/4 of that amount, and a long term deal for Wood should handle the rest.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
08-03-2011, 03:23 PM
I also don't believe this takes in consideration the 3 mil exemption that will be available 8/4. SO if the Steelers utilize that on Woodley when they get a new deal done...I would say there will be a 3-4 mil difference from franchise number plus the 3 mil exemption so the Steelers are in the 4-5 mil range. The new restructures haven't been calculated in and Miller restructures today so the look to be in good shape.

steelerkeylargo
08-03-2011, 03:28 PM
Heath Miller & Kiesel have also restructured. We should be in compliance.

phillyesq
08-03-2011, 04:46 PM
we need to get this done soon or more cuts may be coming...


As of Tuesday, seven teams were over the cap

Posted by Mike Florio on August 3, 2011


We shared with you on Tuesday a list of the teams with more than $20 million in cap space. And we mentioned within the past hour or so that the Eagles still have some breathing room.

Now, its time to look at the teams that had some work to do, as of Tuesday, to get under the spending limit.

Per a source with knowledge of the cap numbers, here are the seven teams that were in the red: Raiders ($17.3 million), Steelers ($11.5 million), Texans ($8.5 million), Vikings ($5.6 million), Lions ($5 million), Cowboys ($3.7 million), and Panthers ($939,000).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... r-the-cap/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/03/as-of-tuesday-seven-teams-were-over-the-cap/)

Just saw an article from Bouchette saying that they were not close with Woodley right now, but that they are under the cap even without a new deal for him.

fordfixer
08-04-2011, 01:37 AM
Steelers Notebook: Woodley talks are under way
Thursday, August 04, 2011
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11216/1165045-66.stm

Negotiations on a new contract for LaMarr Woodley began Monday, but the linebacker says they're not close to getting a deal done.

"Nowhere right now," Woodley said, describing the state of a possible new contract.

Although the new NFL calendar year may not begin Thursday as planned (and teams do not have to be under the salary cap until it begins), the Steelers do not need to sign Woodley to a new deal to be under the cap, sources told the Post-Gazette.

Woodley counts slightly more than $10 million against the cap because his salary for 2011 stipulates him as their franchise player. They can reduce that number drastically by doing a long-term deal and spreading the signing bonus over its length for salary-cap purposes.

"We just have to get the number right," Woodley said. "At the end of the day, you have to make sure the number's right and, when the number's right, hopefully that's when I'll be done."
Lower attendance hurts wallet

The long lockout has affected the Steelers in the pocketbook at training camp because so few fans are turning out.

Attendance has been down at Saint Vincent College the first week of camp, likely because the lockout did not allow many fans to plan travel arrangements to visit Latrobe.

The Steelers sell a lot of merchandise at training camp from the big white tent near the Saint Vincent College entrance. On good days, when fans pack the practices, they will sell about $50,000 in merchandise, and, even on slow days, they do a good business. That is way down this summer.
Injury updates

James Harrison, who has complained recently about his back, walked off the practice field with his surgeon, Joe Maroon, Wednesday afternoon. Uh-oh? No, coach Mike Tomlin said he gave Harrison and Troy Polamalu the day off.

Others had the day off because of injuries, including linebacker Erik Clanton (thigh), cornerbacks Cortez Allen (hamstring), Crezdon Butler (hamstring), and Bryant McFadden (hamstring), offensive tackle Marcus Gilbert (hamstring) and wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (foot). Cornerback Keenan Lewis returned after missing two practices because of a heat-related condition.
Quick hits

Tomlin conducted another 2 1/2 hour practice in a light mist/rain. ... The Steelers will practice again at 2:55 p.m. today, and it will be open to the public. ... Their next off day is Sunday.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11216/11 ... z1U2GonomU (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11216/1165045-66.stm#ixzz1U2GonomU)

fordfixer
08-04-2011, 01:38 AM
OLB Woodley, Steelers working toward deal
By Mark Kaboly and Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, August 4, 2011
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... 49906.html (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_749906.html)

The Steelers and LaMarr Woodley have been engaged in contract negotiations since Monday, but it looks it there is still significant work to be done before the Steelers lock up one of the NFL's top pass rushers with a long-term contract.

"At the end of the day, you've just got to go make sure the numbers are right," Woodley said, "and when the numbers are right, hopefully, that's when I'll be done."

Woodley signed a one-year, $10 million contract last February after the Steelers used the franchise tag on the four-year veteran.

The Steelers didn't need to sign Woodley to a longer deal to get in compliance with the salary cap by today. They have until Sept. 11 to reach an agreement. That is the date of the opener at Baltimore, and the Steelers have a long-standing policy of not engaging in negotiations during the regular season.

Woodley, one of only two players in franchise history to record double-digit sacks in his first three seasons as a starter, said he has stayed focused on getting himself ready for the season.

"I have to take my game to another level," Woodley said. "I haven't played my best. I can always get better."

The 6-foot-2, 265-pounder notched 10 sacks last season after recording 13.5 and making the Pro Bowl in 2009.

Rashard Mendenhall rushed for 1,273 yards and 13 touchdowns in 2010. The four-year veteran is apparently intent on building on the season in which he had the second-most rushing touchdowns in franchise history Mendenhall's 13 tied Jerome Bettis' and Willie Parker's total and finished seventh in the NFL in rushing.

"Best condition I've ever seen him in," Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said of Mendenhall. "He really looks terrific."

Inside the ropes

Running back Baron Batch drew "ooohs" and "aaahs" after making a nifty cut during practice Wednesday afternoon.

Batch, who stood out in the backs-on-backers blocking drill last Sunday, continues to make the most of his opportunities. Yesterday, the Steelers had him and Antonio Brown each return a kickoff.

While Batch, a seventh-round draft pick out of Texas Tech appears to be making progress, at least one person isn't impressed.

"He's a rookie," coach Mike Tomlin said.

That is the same line Tomlin offered after last Sunday's practice.

As he walked away from reporters following a brief Q&A session yesterday, Tomlin said, "I'll be consistent in that message until he shows me something in a stadium."

And no, Tomlin wasn't talking about Latrobe Memorial Stadium, where the Steelers will practice Friday night.

A light rain and soggy conditions didn't stop Tomlin from putting his players through another practice that lasted about 2.5 hours. Among those that didn't suit up Wednesday were strong safety Troy Polamalu and outside linebacker James Harrison. The two still are recovering from Achilles and back injuries, respectively, and Tomlin said he gave the Pro Bowlers a rest day. Also not practicing yesterday because of injuries were cornerbacks Bryant McFadden (hamstring), Crezdon Butler (hamstring) and Cortez Allen (hamstring); offensive tackle Marcus Gilbert (hamstring); wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (foot); and rookie linebacker Erik Clanton (quad).

Cornerback Keenan Lewis appeared to be at full strength after missing practice Tuesday because of a heat-related illness. He matched strides with speedy wide receiver Mike Wallace on several occasions, and he defended a perfectly thrown long ball from quarterback Ben Roethlisberger on one of them.

Wide receiver Limas Sweed dropped a pass that hit him in the numbers from Byron Leftwich but later made up for it. Sweed went low to scoop a Leftwich pass before it hit the wet turf.

Tight end Heath Miller, a frequent target for quarterbacks yesterday, made a nice adjustment before hauling in a deep pass from Roethlisberger.

Rookie watch

MORTTY IVY

Position: linebacker

Measurables: 6-foot-1, 239 pounds

College: West Virginia, first-year free agent

Competition: Ivy, a Gateway graduate, spent last year in Carolina's camp and was signed by the Steelers in January to a reserve/future contract. With the Steelers set at inside linebacker -- James Farrior and Lawrence Timmons are starters; Larry Foote and Stevenson Sylvester are reserves a practice squad spot is Ivy's best chance.

Camp moment: Late in Tuesday's practice, during 11-on-11 live team drills, Ivy sniffed out a wide receiver end-around, shot the inside gap and tackled wide receiver Armand Robinson deep in the backfield for a substantial loss.

Quotable: "I kind of messed up on it. I made the wrong-sided call, but in the end I made a play. It helps me out because now I know what I have to do and make sure I don't do it wrong."

Read more: OLB Woodley, Steelers working toward deal - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1U2H8nVz7 (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_749906.html#ixzz1U2H8nVz7)

hawaiiansteel
08-05-2011, 02:47 AM
THURSDAY, AUGUST 04, 2011

The Woodley negotiations


I had the question posed to me on another post about the Steelers and Woodley being far apart on their contract negotiations. Here are my thoughts on that situation:

They're negotiating. There's no pressure on Woodley to settle on, say, a 4-year, $20-million deal when he's going to make $10 million this season.

But, the Steelers have to be careful that they don't upset the apple cart with Woodley considering they have deals with Polamalu and Timmons to work on as well.

Woodley can't make more than Polamalu. You could argue that he shouldn't make more than Timmons. And they're not going to give him a better long-term deal than the one Harrison has now.

But, the negotiations haven't even been ongoing for a week. Something will get done at some point because the Steelers need to lower his cap number so they can start working on Polamalu/Timmons.

posted by Dale Lolley

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

Mick'sTeam
08-05-2011, 08:19 AM
6 year $61.5 million with $18.1 in the first year per Mike & Mike.