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hawaiiansteel
05-16-2011, 02:38 AM
5 Roster Holes the Pittsburgh Steelers Must Fill

By Nick DeWitt (Steelers Featured Columnist) on May 12, 2011

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Even after the 2011 NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh Steelers still have decisions to make and roster holes that need plugged before they can start talking about another run to the Super Bowl. If they manage to fill these holes, they will have to be mentioned in the conversation.

On paper, the Steelers look like a playoff team in most departments. But let's look under the hood at spots that need to be filled, either by rookies from the draft moving up the depth chart or by potential free agent additions.

Here are the five biggest holes that need plugged before the 2011 season opens:

1. Place Kicker

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Who?

Free agents with experience include Matt Prater, Adam Vinatieri and David Akers. If the Steelers look for younger talent, they'd do well to consider a guy like LSU's Josh Jasper.

How Essential?

For a team with so much scoring potential, the Steelers kick a lot of field goals. They need a good kicker for that, and they also need someone steady and accurate who can master the tricky conditions of Heinz Field. Kicker is probably among the biggest holes on the roster because there is no one currently signed to fill it.

Wild Cards?

Shaun Suisham, who kicked last year, is also on the market, but he showed little in the way of leg strength. Despite being steady, it doesn't seem likely he returns to the Steel City.


Starting Corners

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Who?

The hope in Pittsburgh is that once the CBA issues are resolved the Steelers will work out a deal with Ike Taylor that allows him to finish his career here and provides steady play at one of the two corner spots.

Failing that, look for the team to target Carlos Rogers or another mid-range free agent. It would be a shock to see a starter come from the rookie class because that's not how D!ck LeBeau runs things.

How Important?

Essential. The Green Bay Packers exposed the Steelers badly in this department. It's been a problem for years, but Pittsburgh continues to put it on the back burner.

If they don't address it now, teams will try to torch them all season long. Getting at least one established starter under contract is the most important task the team has left.

Wild Cards?

Nnamdi Asomugha. He'd be expensive, but probably worth the price. The Steelers don't do big-name free agency, but this could be a good time to make an exception.

3. Right Guard

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Who?

Ramon Foster started eight games last year and played capably, so he'll probably get first crack.

The team could open up competition with Doug Legursky (assuming he's re-signed) or could get creative and re-sign Willie Colon and move him to the guard spot. The team probably won't make a big addition here outside those possibilities.

How Important?

Foster did okay, and it's believable he could do it again over a full season, but it would be nice to see the Steelers really commit to shoring up the line permanently.

They did a nice job in the draft with Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, but they won't likely play a major role this season. Keeping Ben Roethlisberger upright and healthy will win them games, and that starts with the line.

Wild Cards?

Gilbert. If he pushes Flozell Adams out of the right tackle spot at some point, Adams could move in to guard. On the flip side, Gilbert might be tried at guard as well.

4. Punter

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Who?

Daniel Sepulveda should be ready by the beginning of the year, but how much do the Steelers want to re-sign a player who has had two major knee injuries in his NFL career?

They could opt to go with Sepulveda's replacement (Jeremy Kapinos), but that doesn't inspire confidence. There are a host of available punters, so Pittsburgh will probably look into that.

How Important?

While not nearly as essential as corner or offensive line, the Steelers need a good punter more than you might think.

Pittsburgh's game is based on field position. A good punter can put your defense in good position to make plays and rattle an opponent. Good defensive field position also increases the chances that your offense will get favorable field position as well.

Sound important now?

Wild Cards?

Sepulveda's health is the biggest one, but the team could also try to find a kicker who can also punt to either cover for Sepulveda or to take care of two jobs with one player.


5. Nickel Corner

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Who?

It's not cheating.

The nickel is a very different position from the starting corner. The Steelers use the nickel a lot, and the position of nickel corner is almost as important to them as the starters. Just ask anyone who moans as William Gay fails to make a play from that spot; he won't be back either.

The hope is that rookie Curtis Brown can work into that job quickly. Outside of that, the team might look at a cheap free agent who fills that role without breaking the bank.

How Important?

Teams like to try to spread the Steelers out. The consensus opinion is that you cannot beat the Steelers with the run, so you have to get them with passes.

That makes the nickel important, because the formation is designed to stop big passing formations. The Steelers employ it often on blitz packages as well. On some teams, it is an afterthought, but on this team, it's essential.

Wild Cards?

How well Keenan Lewis and Crezdon Butler perform early will dictate a lot about this spot. If the team thinks either can fill that spot, they may stand pat and focus elsewhere.

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Oviedo
05-16-2011, 07:56 AM
Reference CBs, this is the most importnat statement in this article


Essential. The Green Bay Packers exposed the Steelers badly in this department. It's been a problem for years, but Pittsburgh continues to put it on the back burner.

If they don't address it now, teams will try to torch them all season long. Getting at least one established starter under contract is the most important task the team has left.


If LeBeau does not adjust his scheme and continues to go into this with business as usual just trusting the scheme then we are going to be torched in the secondary.

No one is going to try to run against us 20-30 times a game so having the best run defense in the NFL is a false statistic. They are going to attack us through the air. Not sure we have the answers we need to stop that.

birtikidis
05-16-2011, 08:09 AM
dude lost all credibility when he said Adams could move inside to guard.

flippy
05-16-2011, 09:37 AM
Couple thoughts:

1. I wonder if Legursky will get a real shot to compete to start. I've liked what I've seen of him @ RG and C. And if he can win the slot at RG, I think our line is solid. Will Legs and Gilbert compete with Foster @ RG? That's a bunch of guys over there with no one on the other side pushing Kemo who's a guy that needs to improve imo.

2. We've all of a sudden got a lot of CBs on the roster if Ike signs. Wonder if any of our CBs can backup the safety spots? Cortez Allen seems to me like he could have the most potential out of any of these guys to be a FS. He's a development project any ways and he runs a 4.5 which is fast for a FS, average for a CB. Could he have more value as the heir apparent to Clark?

3. Why no mention of Gay @ the nickle? Lewis and Butler have done nothing. I have no reason to believe either can play at this point.

4. The kickers worry me. But Mike Tomlin worries me more when he trots out a mediocre place kicker to attempt a 50+ yard field goal in a critical situation. We can live with Sushi if Tomlin doesn't put him in bad spots. And I also think Tomlin f'd up Sepulveda's leg by making him punt a bazillion times in his first camp. Tomlin needs some work on finessing his kickers a little.

Keyplay1
05-16-2011, 10:24 AM
dude lost all credibility when he said Adams could move inside to guard.

Yeah, that and a few other things as well. When I see something by the bleacher report I am reminded of my usual response which is most of those guys were probably in the bleachers when they collapsed. I mean you read about this stuff happening once in a while and while there are usually no serious injuries they probably do get bopped on the head a bit. But, I'm not doing that this time. He does make some points, but isn't he a wee bit late. Like this same stuff has been around for several years now. Geez!

RuthlessBurgher
05-16-2011, 10:27 AM
Reference CBs, this is the most importnat statement in this article


Essential. The Green Bay Packers exposed the Steelers badly in this department. It's been a problem for years, but Pittsburgh continues to put it on the back burner.

If they don't address it now, teams will try to torch them all season long. Getting at least one established starter under contract is the most important task the team has left.


If LeBeau does not adjust his scheme and continues to go into this with business as usual just trusting the scheme then we are going to be torched in the secondary.

No one is going to try to run against us 20-30 times a game so having the best run defense in the NFL is a false statistic. They are going to attack us through the air. Not sure we have the answers we need to stop that.

I know that you have been not-so-subtly suggesting that we move from the 3-4 to 4-3 for some time now (with your handy dandy little stirring-the-pot smiley always in tow :stirpot ), but problems with our pass defense tend to occur in the nickel (when Casey Hampton is replaced with DB) or dime (when Casey and a LB are replaced with 2 DB's) packages. Both of those specialty packages use a 4 man d-line (our 3-4 DE's become DT's and Woodley and Harrison put their hand in the dirt as pass-rushing DE's). The problem is a talent problem, not a scheme problem. Our d-line and linebackers are awesome...our secondary, not so much. What changes do you suggest, scheme-wise, for "Saint" LeBeau to remedy teams spreading us out and attacking us through the air?

Oviedo
05-16-2011, 10:41 AM
Reference CBs, this is the most importnat statement in this article


Essential. The Green Bay Packers exposed the Steelers badly in this department. It's been a problem for years, but Pittsburgh continues to put it on the back burner.

If they don't address it now, teams will try to torch them all season long. Getting at least one established starter under contract is the most important task the team has left.


If LeBeau does not adjust his scheme and continues to go into this with business as usual just trusting the scheme then we are going to be torched in the secondary.

No one is going to try to run against us 20-30 times a game so having the best run defense in the NFL is a false statistic. They are going to attack us through the air. Not sure we have the answers we need to stop that.

I know that you have been not-so-subtly suggesting that we move from the 3-4 to 4-3 for some time now (with your handy dandy little stirring-the-pot smiley always in tow :stirpot ), but problems with our pass defense tend to occur in the nickel (when Casey Hampton is replaced with DB) or dime (when Casey and a LB are replaced with 2 DB's) packages. Both of those specialty packages use a 4 man d-line (our 3-4 DE's become DT's and Woodley and Harrison put their hand in the dirt as pass-rushing DE's). The problem is a talent problem, not a scheme problem. Our d-line and linebackers are awesome...our secondary, not so much. What changes do you suggest, scheme-wise, for "Saint" LeBeau to remedy teams spreading us out and attacking us through the air?

NO I'm not suggesting a move to a 4-3. That boat has sailed...even if it may be in the wrong direction :wink: :stirpot

I totally agree that it is a talent issue and that is my problem. We don't have the talent but we try to run the scheme as if we did have the talent.

If Arians tried to throw the ball 40 times a game to bad WRs he would be called an idiot and run out of town. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that places hig pressure on them and when they fail he doesn't adjust anything. That is all I have ever said is that we need to make adjustment for the players we actually have not the ones that would be great in our scheme but we don't have.

ikestops85
05-16-2011, 11:00 AM
NO I'm not suggesting a move to a 4-3. That boat has sailed...even if it may be in the wrong direction :wink: :stirpot

I totally agree that it is a talent issue and that is my problem. We don't have the talent but we try to run the scheme as if we did have the talent.

If Arians tried to throw the ball 40 times a game to bad WRs he would be called an idiot and run out of town. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that places hig pressure on them and when they fail he doesn't adjust anything. That is all I have ever said is that we need to make adjustment for the players we actually have not the ones that would be great in our scheme but we don't have.

This is where I disagree with you. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that protects them. His whole philosophy is for the DBs to keep the play in front of them, make tackles, and have the opponent pay when the QB makes a mistake throwing the ball.

We are not as bad at this as most Steeler fans feel and I am as guilty of this as anybody else. Very few teams can spread us out and consistently score on us. If they could I doubt we would have played in 3 SBs over a 5 year period. Yes, if a QB gets hot they can pick us apart but I think that happens to every other team also. We just don't watch them as much so we don't see it.

I'd like to see us improve our talent in the defensive backfield also but we don't I don't think we need to change the scheme. We just need to play it the way it is designed and we will be fine.

hawaiiansteel
06-11-2011, 03:01 AM
The Colbert Bump

by Steel34D on Jun 7, 2011


If you have not seen the Colbert Report you may not have understood the title. Stephen Colbert is a comedian with a satirical news show on Comedy Central. When a political candidate goes on the Colbert Report there voting percent has a noticeable increase this increase has been dubbed "The Colbert Bump".

With this in mind the Steelers Director of Football Operations Kevin Colbert seems to get his own bump when signing outside Free Agents. His targets are usually a position of need, a younger player who may have shown some potential but hasn't fulfilled it and who will not be a high dollar guy.

For example look to, Ryan Clark in '06, James Farrior in '02, and Mewelde Moore '08.

With this in mind I racked my brain to find these types of Free Agent players that Colbert could sign and they could contribute. Sorted by positions of need DB, NT, and RB:


Cornerback

Chris Carr CB UFA- Baltimore Ravens

Carr was in his first full season as a starter who spent most of the first five season as a return specialist. Carr has good speed and decent ability and began to show some potential as a NFL caliber CB. After drafting a corner in the first round and other CBs on the roster Fabian Washington and Josh Wilson who is a RFA.

Josh Wilson CB RFA- Baltimore Ravens

Wilson has very good coverage skills, and is good on special teams. He instantly became the Ravens starter and had his third straight year of returning a INT for a TD. If Baltimore decides to keep Fabian Washington and Chris Carr them may not tend Wilson. He isn't a big name but he can play.

Carlos Rodgers CB UFA- Washington Redskins

Tell me if this sound familiar to you, Rodgers is very solid in run support, has all the ability to cover the NFL best receivers but he can get INTs having only eight since 2005. Without out the INTs Rodgers doesn't get the respect he deserves for being as solid of player as he is. Kinda sound like Ike? Rodgers will get an offer from Washington but may not want to stay and could be a Steelers for a decent price, a little higher then they'd like though. Because of the price Rodgers will probably only be discussed if Ike did leae which isn't likely.

Nose Tackle

There isn't much here and the best option in my opinion would be resigning Chris Hoke because of his knowledge of the system and his chemistry with the other guys. However there is one RFA I am curious about.

Alan Branch DT RFA- Arizona Cardinals

He never lived up to the fact he was a high second round draft. He struggled with conditioning and weight in his first couple of years and could not beat out veterans to get time at either DE or NT. However this year he came into camp in shape and when he went in to the game he showed his potential this year. The Cardinals Drafted Dan Williams last year and because there other 2 NT are free agents they may not let him go or they may sign the other too who have consistently been higher them him. If Branch can get his head on straight he would add youth to the NT spot and could develop to be a solid contributor with the Big Snack.

Running Back

With the lock out and his current age Mewelde Moore is the best option to be resigned.HE won't cost much and would provide time for either Dwyer or Batch to fill his roll. However just like with the DT position there is a RFA I like and he again is on the Cardinals

Tim Hightower RB RFA- Arizona Cardinals

Tim Hightower is the definition of what the Steelers need to fill at running back. He is a solid runner who could spell Mendenhall but more importantly he was one of the best receivers out of the back field in the league over the last couple of years. Not to mention he was the Cardinals best pass blocker. Hightower has a fumble problem which has been annoying Ken Whisenhunt and with the addition of a high second round pick and having LaRod Stephens-Howling, "the Hyphen" , the Cardinals need to drop a RB and Hightower could be it.

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feltdizz
06-11-2011, 10:00 AM
NO I'm not suggesting a move to a 4-3. That boat has sailed...even if it may be in the wrong direction :wink: :stirpot

I totally agree that it is a talent issue and that is my problem. We don't have the talent but we try to run the scheme as if we did have the talent.

If Arians tried to throw the ball 40 times a game to bad WRs he would be called an idiot and run out of town. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that places hig pressure on them and when they fail he doesn't adjust anything. That is all I have ever said is that we need to make adjustment for the players we actually have not the ones that would be great in our scheme but we don't have.

This is where I disagree with you. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that protects them. His whole philosophy is for the DBs to keep the play in front of them, make tackles, and have the opponent pay when the QB makes a mistake throwing the ball.

We are not as bad at this as most Steeler fans feel and I am as guilty of this as anybody else. Very few teams can spread us out and consistently score on us. If they could I doubt we would have played in 3 SBs over a 5 year period. Yes, if a QB gets hot they can pick us apart but I think that happens to every other team also. We just don't watch them as much so we don't see it.

I'd like to see us improve our talent in the defensive backfield also but we don't I don't think we need to change the scheme. We just need to play it the way it is designed and we will be fine.
:Agree

Oviedo
06-11-2011, 02:50 PM
NO I'm not suggesting a move to a 4-3. That boat has sailed...even if it may be in the wrong direction :wink: :stirpot

I totally agree that it is a talent issue and that is my problem. We don't have the talent but we try to run the scheme as if we did have the talent.

If Arians tried to throw the ball 40 times a game to bad WRs he would be called an idiot and run out of town. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that places hig pressure on them and when they fail he doesn't adjust anything. That is all I have ever said is that we need to make adjustment for the players we actually have not the ones that would be great in our scheme but we don't have.

This is where I disagree with you. LeBeau puts mediocre DBs out in a scheme that protects them. His whole philosophy is for the DBs to keep the play in front of them, make tackles, and have the opponent pay when the QB makes a mistake throwing the ball.

We are not as bad at this as most Steeler fans feel and I am as guilty of this as anybody else. Very few teams can spread us out and consistently score on us. If they could I doubt we would have played in 3 SBs over a 5 year period. Yes, if a QB gets hot they can pick us apart but I think that happens to every other team also. We just don't watch them as much so we don't see it.

I'd like to see us improve our talent in the defensive backfield also but we don't I don't think we need to change the scheme. We just need to play it the way it is designed and we will be fine.


The problem is that the "few" teams that spread us out are the ones you have to beat to win a Super Bowl. That is kinda a significant issue that should be addressed.

birtikidis
06-11-2011, 03:29 PM
If we scheme to beat just those few teams and change everything, my bet is we don't have to worry about the super bowl because we won't be able to beat anyone in our own division and we don't make the playoffs.

hawaiiansteel
06-11-2011, 06:00 PM
Team checklist: Pittsburgh Steelers

Posted by Mike Florio on June 11, 2011


Rosenthal has been doing team-by-team checklists for several weeks now. Almost as long as I’ve been telling him I’ll pitch in and help.

To date, I haven’t.

Today, I do.

I’ll start with a team that doesn’t need to do much more than stay the course. If “staying the course” also includes finding a way to score on the final drive of the Super Bowl.

1. Find a third-down back.

Mewelde Moore has handled the duties for the last three years, but he’ll be a free agent when the lockout ends. Though the Steelers may decide to re-sign Moore, who has been capable but not spectacular, some other team could be willing to pay Mewelde more (I really didn’t plan that one) than the Steelers have budgeted for a position that is among the more fungible in the sport.

And so the question will be whether the Steelers can find someone better than Moore for the money it may take to keep him. With Tiki Barber making a comeback and Reggie Bush possibly available, the Steelers could have some intriguing options.

2. Consider bringing back Plaxico Burress.

Several years ago, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger riled up Hines Ward by publicly asking for a tall receiver.

The Steelers acquired one that year, in 6-4 Limas Sweed. Who has done nothing in three NFL seasons. Also on the roster is 6-8 Wes Lyons, a Pittsburgh native who didn’t do enough during his time at West Virginia University to even get drafted.

Though the Steelers currently have Ward, Mike Wallace, and Antonio Brown, none of the three is listed as taller than six feet. As Roethlisberger said in 2008, “Hines is going to say he’s 6 foot, but he’s 5-11.”

Burress, whose final year in Pittsburgh coincided with Roethlisberger’s first, would give Big Ben the large target he covets. Though the move would be controversial, don’t underestimate coach Mike Tomlin’s affinity for guys from Eastern Virginia.

3. Give Daniel Sepulveda the boot.

In March, the Steelers extended a restricted free agency tender to Sepulveda, a four-year veteran who under a new labor deal very likely will be an unrestricted free agent. Though the Steelers thought enough of Sepulveda to use a fourth-round pick to acquire him in Tomlin’s first year on the job, he has torn the ACL in his right knee three times.

With plenty of punters available, taking an annual chance that he’ll rip the thing a fourth time and leave the team scrambling to replace him doesn’t make sense. Especially if he’s looking for a bigger pay day than most punters ever see.

4. Let Ike Taylor walk.

Cornerback Ike Taylor has said he wants to stay in Pittsburgh. And he has said he wants to test the market. If he wants market value, he simply won’t get it from the Steelers. As with Moore, someone will pay for the fact that Taylor brings a Super Bowl ring (in Taylor’s case, two) into the locker room — and in turn eats away at the defending AFC champion’s roster.

The Steelers need to accept the fact that, if Taylor insists on top dollar in a slim cornerback market, he won’t be back, and they need to plan accordingly to replace him. With the strength of the defense in the front seven and the secondary anchored by Troy Polamalu, they can get by with a lot less than the second coming of Rod Woodson.

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5. Improve depth at safety.

Speaking of Polamalu, he has emerged as one of the most important players on any team. When he’s healthy, it becomes virtually impossible to outscore the Steelers. When he’s out due to injury — or, as he was late in 2010, playing with an injury — the team becomes vulnerable.

Though they’ll never find another Polamalu to back up Polamalu, the Steelers need to make the No. 2 position at strong safety a priority, even if it means overpaying a guy who could start elsewhere. Given Polamalu’s reckless style (which makes him so damn effective when he’s at 100 percent), more injuries are inevitable. Moving forward, the Steelers need to view Polamalu’s understudy as the equivalent to the backup quarterback.

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RuthlessBurgher
06-11-2011, 07:45 PM
To clarify Florio's suggestions to "improve" the Steelers:

Bring in Tiki Barber and Plaxico Burress.

Get rid of Daniel Sepulveda and Ike Taylor.

http://www.geaugaconstitutionalcouncil.org/userfiles/image/Brilliant_00.jpg

He must really hate the Steelers after all. :HeadBanger

Oviedo
06-11-2011, 09:08 PM
If we scheme to beat just those few teams and change everything, my bet is we don't have to worry about the super bowl because we won't be able to beat anyone in our own division and we don't make the playoffs.


So let me understand this. You believe if we improve our scheme so that our secondary is stronger aginst the better teams in the league we will be weaker against the weaker teams. I guess I'm just confused.

birtikidis
06-11-2011, 09:34 PM
If we scheme to beat just those few teams and change everything, my bet is we don't have to worry about the super bowl because we won't be able to beat anyone in our own division and we don't make the playoffs.


So let me understand this. You believe if we improve our scheme so that our secondary is stronger aginst the better teams in the league we will be weaker against the weaker teams. I guess I'm just confused.
absolutely. If you over react to what 2-3 teams in the NFL can do and you change your scheme to only stop that then guys like Ray Rice and Tony Hillis will start having success against you. We play in the AFC North which has 2 great running backs. If you can't stop them then you run the risk of not beating them. Add in the fact that you might only play one of those 2-3 teams as part of your schedule then you start losing. You can't have both in today's NFL. One aspect of your team will always suffer. be it the OL, DL, LB'ers, skill positions, or DB's. You can't have all pro's at every position. But I'd rather be in a position to beat the majority of teams we play then to be geared to only stop 2-3 of them.

RuthlessBurgher
06-11-2011, 10:01 PM
Tony Hillis

NFL players named Peyton get no respect... :lol:

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birtikidis
06-11-2011, 10:52 PM
As much as I hate both of them, they're both great players. I don't think we'll end up behind the clowns, but that's because I don't think our coaches are gonna over react about one or two teams in the NFL and change everything so we can beat only those two teams.

RuthlessBurgher
06-11-2011, 11:01 PM
As much as I hate both of them, they're both great players. I don't think we'll end up behind the clowns, but that's because I don't think our coaches are gonna over react about one or two teams in the NFL and change everything so we can beat only those two teams.

I was just making a funny about how you seemed to have mixed up Peyton Hillis's name with this legendary Steeler OT who never ever seems to see the field:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45434000/jpg/_45434230_shelby416ap.jpg

Peyton Hillis + Tony Hills = Tony Hillis! :wink:

birtikidis
06-11-2011, 11:02 PM
As much as I hate both of them, they're both great players. I don't think we'll end up behind the clowns, but that's because I don't think our coaches are gonna over react about one or two teams in the NFL and change everything so we can beat only those two teams.

I was just making a funny about how you seemed to have mixed up Peyton Hillis's name with this legendary Steeler OT who never ever seems to see the field:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45434000/jpg/_45434230_shelby416ap.jpg

Peyton Hillis + Tony Hills = Tony Hillis! :wink:
haha my bad.. I didn't even catch that.
I'm blaming it on how sick I've been the last two weeks. and hey, the docs have had me on morphine, so... there ya go.

RuthlessBurgher
06-11-2011, 11:05 PM
As much as I hate both of them, they're both great players. I don't think we'll end up behind the clowns, but that's because I don't think our coaches are gonna over react about one or two teams in the NFL and change everything so we can beat only those two teams.

I was just making a funny about how you seemed to have mixed up Peyton Hillis's name with this legendary Steeler OT who never ever seems to see the field:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45434000/jpg/_45434230_shelby416ap.jpg

Peyton Hillis + Tony Hills = Tony Hillis! :wink:
haha my bad.. I didn't even catch that.
I'm blaming it on how sick I've been the last two weeks. and hey, the docs have had me on morphine, so... there ya go.

If I knew you were on morphine, I would have given you credit for not confusing Ray Rice with Jerry Rice too! :lol:

aggiebones
06-13-2011, 12:33 PM
We got to the Super Bowl and lost in part because the O couldn't hold the ball. 1 bad fumble, 1 pick for a TD and another pick, not exactly Ben's fault.
Yes, the D struggled at times, but got little help. GBs O is VERY good. Everyone gets up in arms after a loss like that. Yea, we need better, but we are NOT breaking the bank for anyone.

hawaiiansteel
06-26-2011, 05:33 PM
Next Men Up

By Kenneth Torgent | Thu, 06/23/2011


While the NFL’s labor dispute might be solved in time for a full season of play, the shadow of the offseason lockout will undoubtedly linger over the crop of rookies making their entrances into the league. These young talents have been drafted and yet are unable to work out with their new team or meet with their new coaches. Many have yet to receive a playbook.

With all incoming rookies thrust into catch-up mode after the draft anyways, this year’s class will be hard-pressed to put themselves into position to make an impact in 2011. It will be especially unlikely that any rookie contributes immediately and significantly to the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team notorious for keeping its new arrivals on the sidelines.

As such, Pittsburgh will need to look at some less-raw but still unproven talent to reinforce the team for another run at the Super Bowl. Here are second, third, and fourth year players who could help the Steelers in a number of ways if they can take the next step (or two):

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Crezdon Butler, CB

Kevin Colbert brought in two mid-round corners on draft day, but neither is likely to help out immediately because of the shortened offseason. With Keenan Lewis buried six feet below Mike Tomlin’s doghouse, Butler is the only unproven non-rookie cornerback with a decent chance of making a move upwards. The second-year pro could earn a spot as a dime-back going into the preaseason with an outside shot at nickel-back if William Gay continues to struggle and/or Ike Taylor doesn’t return.

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Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman, RB

Mewelde Moore, the team’s third down back and default backup is likely on his way out of town once football business resumes. His departure would open up a spot behind Rashard Mendenhall for secondary carries, third-down duties, and a legitimate workload should the lead dog go down with an injury. Redman has a leg up in this race at the moment, having earned a gameday role in the redzone last season and showing off some skills in garbage time. Dwyer is at least a year behind Redman in terms of experience and suffered through some nagging injuries early last season. Both men should watch out though: if seventh-round rookie Baron Batch makes some noise in camp, the loser of this battle could be plying his trade on the practice squad.

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Tony Hills and Chris Scott, OL

Outside of Maurkice Pouncey and maybe Chris Kemoeatu, Pittsburgh’s offensive line is full of question marks. Is it Colon or Flozell at right tackle? Will Max Starks’ neck and back be healthy enough for 16 games on the left side? Who in God’s name are they plugging in at right guard this week? Needless to say, there’s quite a bit of opportunity for some young talent to step up. Hills, who is heading into his fourth season, has yet to validate the belief that he was a steal in the fourth round of the 2008 draft. If he can put it all together, he could lock down a tackle spot if Starks’ issues return. Scott navigated a bit of a lost rookie season to earn a roster spot after spending six weeks on the team’s PUP list. The right guard position has been a revolving door and no one excelled in the spot last season. Second-round rookie Marcus Gilbert’s development will be slowed by the lockout troubles, meaning Scott will have a legitimate chance to impress in his second season and capitalize on one of the offense’s true open starting positions.

http://www.pittsburghsportsreport.com/PSR/node/2313

Oviedo
06-27-2011, 11:19 AM
Next Men Up

By Kenneth Torgent | Thu, 06/23/2011


While the NFL’s labor dispute might be solved in time for a full season of play, the shadow of the offseason lockout will undoubtedly linger over the crop of rookies making their entrances into the league. These young talents have been drafted and yet are unable to work out with their new team or meet with their new coaches. Many have yet to receive a playbook.

With all incoming rookies thrust into catch-up mode after the draft anyways, this year’s class will be hard-pressed to put themselves into position to make an impact in 2011. It will be especially unlikely that any rookie contributes immediately and significantly to the Pittsburgh Steelers, a team notorious for keeping its new arrivals on the sidelines.

As such, Pittsburgh will need to look at some less-raw but still unproven talent to reinforce the team for another run at the Super Bowl. Here are second, third, and fourth year players who could help the Steelers in a number of ways if they can take the next step (or two):

http://blogs.citizen-times.com/blogs/media/users/apearson/steelerintblog.jpg

Crezdon Butler, CB

Kevin Colbert brought in two mid-round corners on draft day, but neither is likely to help out immediately because of the shortened offseason. With Keenan Lewis buried six feet below Mike Tomlin’s doghouse, Butler is the only unproven non-rookie cornerback with a decent chance of making a move upwards. The second-year pro could earn a spot as a dime-back going into the preaseason with an outside shot at nickel-back if William Gay continues to struggle and/or Ike Taylor doesn’t return.

http://www.pittsburghsportsreport.com/PSR/sites/default/files/imagecache/lead-image-full/0Torgent.jpg


Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman, RB

Mewelde Moore, the team’s third down back and default backup is likely on his way out of town once football business resumes. His departure would open up a spot behind Rashard Mendenhall for secondary carries, third-down duties, and a legitimate workload should the lead dog go down with an injury. Redman has a leg up in this race at the moment, having earned a gameday role in the redzone last season and showing off some skills in garbage time. Dwyer is at least a year behind Redman in terms of experience and suffered through some nagging injuries early last season. Both men should watch out though: if seventh-round rookie Baron Batch makes some noise in camp, the loser of this battle could be plying his trade on the practice squad.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08pzgcOary6E0/439x.jpg

Tony Hills and Chris Scott, OL

Outside of Maurkice Pouncey and maybe Chris Kemoeatu, Pittsburgh’s offensive line is full of question marks. Is it Colon or Flozell at right tackle? Will Max Starks’ neck and back be healthy enough for 16 games on the left side? Who in God’s name are they plugging in at right guard this week? Needless to say, there’s quite a bit of opportunity for some young talent to step up. Hills, who is heading into his fourth season, has yet to validate the belief that he was a steal in the fourth round of the 2008 draft. If he can put it all together, he could lock down a tackle spot if Starks’ issues return. Scott navigated a bit of a lost rookie season to earn a roster spot after spending six weeks on the team’s PUP list. The right guard position has been a revolving door and no one excelled in the spot last season. Second-round rookie Marcus Gilbert’s development will be slowed by the lockout troubles, meaning Scott will have a legitimate chance to impress in his second season and capitalize on one of the offense’s true open starting positions.

http://www.pittsburghsportsreport.com/PSR/node/2313

I'd love for Batch to make some noise at the RB position but the lockout has made that unlikely. IMO this is a make or break year for Dwyer. He has the talent but got to get his head in the game.

I've always said that Chris Scott is the wildcard on the OL. Kugler saw something that caused them to put him on PUP bersus IR. Hills is done and its a shame that he hasn't been able to step up.

steelblood
06-27-2011, 02:52 PM
a good kicker, punter, and third down back would be nice. But, the ONLY thing the Steelers must address in free agency in CB. We NEED a solid starting corner. Taylor, Richard Marshall, or Jonathan Joseph would be my first choices. Taylor because he knows the system and plays it very well. Marshall and Joseph because they are good corners in the prime of their careers. If we can't sign any of those guys (and we better), then we'll have to look at Rogers and Josh Wilson who are decent #2 corners, but nothing more. If I'm the Steelers, I but every cent we don't need to commit to Troy, Wood, and Timmons into fixing improving our corners.

steelblood
06-27-2011, 02:53 PM
a good kicker, punter, and third down back would be nice. But, the ONLY thing the Steelers must address in free agency is CB. We NEED a solid starting corner. Taylor, Richard Marshall, or Jonathan Joseph would be my first choices. Taylor because he knows the system and plays it very well. Marshall and Joseph because they are good corners in the prime of their careers. If we can't sign any of those guys (and we better), then we'll have to look at Rogers and Josh Wilson who are decent #2 corners, but nothing more. If I'm the Steelers, I but every cent we don't need to commit to Troy, Wood, and Timmons into fixing improving our corners.

Oviedo
06-27-2011, 04:56 PM
a good kicker, punter, and third down back would be nice. But, the ONLY thing the Steelers must address in free agency is CB. We NEED a solid starting corner. Taylor, Richard Marshall, or Jonathan Joseph would be my first choices. Taylor because he knows the system and plays it very well. Marshall and Joseph because they are good corners in the prime of their careers. If we can't sign any of those guys (and we better), then we'll have to look at Rogers and Josh Wilson who are decent #2 corners, but nothing more. If I'm the Steelers, I but every cent we don't need to commit to Troy, Wood, and Timmons into fixing improving our corners.

If we can't keep Taylor we aren't getting Marshall or Joseph. Both are younger and will demand at least as much as Ike. IMO pretty much the same for Rodgers and Wilson.

Here is a really wild idea. Simplify what we ask our CBs to do and put our young players like Butler or Brown in there to prove that they deserve to be in the NFL. Could they really be worse than Bmac or Gay?????

hawaiiansteel
07-01-2011, 02:46 AM
5 Players Who Must Step Up in 2011

By Chris G. (Steelers Featured Columnist)
June 28, 2011


Twice this decade the Pittsburgh Steelers have faced a Super Bowl hangover. Even though they did not win this past one, they do not want to have the same fate as they had the seasons following their last two appearances.

Pittsburgh missed the playoffs in 2006 and 2009 with a combined record of 17-15—not terrible but simply average which is not good enough in the NFL.

The Steelers roster should be in good shape heading into the 2011 season with the exception of the potential loss of starting cornerback Ike Taylor.

Whether they keep him or not, the Steelers still have some holes to plug in their starting lineup as well as depth issues that must be addressed.

Given the Steelers traditionally non-aggressive approach to free agency, the holes in the roster will likely have to be filled by players already on the roster.

Let’s take a look at five players who must step up their performance if the Steelers are to beat the Super Bowl hangover and have another playoff run in 2011.

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Emmanuel Sanders

Emmanuel Sanders had a solid rookie season in 2010 finishing with 28 receptions for 376 yards and two touchdowns. He performed well in the playoffs as well with seven receptions for 91 yards.

Sanders had such a successful rookie season because of his outstanding route running ability and excellent hands.

Over the course of the season, Sanders saw an increased amount of playing time and he will be depended upon to take on a more significant role this upcoming season.

Pittsburgh will expect Sanders to compete with Antwaan Randle El for third on the depth chart. If Sanders continues on his developmental track, he should have no problems achieving that task.

Bruce Arians uses a lot of three wide receiver sets meaning that Sanders will be a key in the success of the Steelers’ offense. With his ability to play on both the inside and outside, Sanders should be a versatile component in the offense.

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Ramon Foster

Another year, another unresolved right guard situation. Expect the right guard position to be a three-way race between Ramon Foster, Doug Legursky and Trai Essex.

Essex fell out of favor last season leaving the position to Foster and Legursky.

While Legurksy may be the better pure player, he is undersized and struggles with larger defensive linemen. This gives Foster a huge (no pun intended) edge.

Foster is a 6’6” 325-pound guard who had an impressive rookie season given his limited playing time, but did not take much of a step forward in year two.

In eight starts at both left and right guard, Foster had one false start and two holding calls and allowed six sacks.

Over his first two seasons, Foster has not been able to outright win the starting job at right guard and Pittsburgh will need him to do just that this season.

Pittsbugh has stability at center now with Maurkice Pouncey but needs an upgrade at both guard positions. Foster is still young and developing and he needs to take some big steps forward this year.

The Steelers’ line still struggled in pass protection last season and had trouble opening up holes for Rashard Mendenhall.

For this offense to reach an elite level with all of its talent at the skill positions the offensive line must step up as a whole and a lot will be placed on Foster given his youth and potential to be the mauler Pittsburgh needs at right guard.

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Curtis Brown

It is a lot to ask for a rookie cornerback to step up their game before they even set foot on an NFL field, but that is exactly what Curtis Brown must do.

Now we are not talking about starting because if we were that would have meant that Ike Taylor left via free agency and the Steelers did not sign a starting caliber cornerback to replace him. Instead, Brown may need to step into the nickel role early in the season.

Typically the Steelers have their rookies, particularly defenders, sit for one season as they learn Dick LeBeau’s complicated defense and make their impact on special teams.

But without a standout cornerback besides Taylor, the Steelers could use anyone who steps up.

At nearly 6’0” 184 pounds, Brown has room to grow into his frame, but has good size for an NFL cornerback and fair speed, running a 4.54-40 yard dash.

Though he is not a playmaker, with only two interceptions in his four-year college career, Brown had 39 career pass breakups. That is the type of production that Pittsburgh could use from their third cornerback.

Brown may have an edge over his competitors because of his fluid hips and ability to change direction as well as his ball awareness. It is a good thing because Pittsburgh will need him.

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Keenan Lewis

Keenan Lewis had the look to be a prototypical number two cornerback in the NFL when the Steelers drafted him in 2009.

On the surface, Lewis seems like a prototypical cornerback at 6’0” 208 pounds but only has average speed running a 4.55 in the 40.

Over his first two seasons, Lewis has struggled with injuries which have hindered his development. He has only played in 13 games and has only 12 career tackles and no passes defended.

This year may be Lewis’ final opportunity at a roster spot which is disappointing considering the team had such high hopes for him.

If Lewis finally begins to live up to his potential the Steelers would have themselves a top prospect that could start. The biggest area that he must improve, though, is turning and running with receivers.

Unlike Brown, Lewis does not have fluid hips and that has been one of his biggest struggles so far in his career.

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Crezdon Butler

Often teams talk about the potential of a rookie and the fans run with it despite no evidence to back it up.

This perfectly describes Crezdon Butler who many fans believe is a very good cornerback just waiting in the wings.

Keep in mind that this guy could not beat out Bryant McFadden, William Gay, Keenan Lewis or Anthony Madison last season. Granted he was a rookie but the Steelers were in dire need of help at the position.

Butler has all of the physical skills that you want in a cornerback highlighted by his 6’1” height and 4.50 speed in the 40.

Like Lewis, Butler has trouble changing directions which may hold him back, but he performed well in college which is why many are excited what he can bring to the team even though he was only a fifth round selection.

Butler has a couple of things going for him as well. First, he has a year in the system which will make him more comfortable with the defense than Brown. He also has not struggled when given opportunities as Lewis has.

At the very least Butler should compete for the nickel spot and has an outside chance of winning a starting job if Taylor is not retained.

Regardless, the Steelers need Butler to realize his potential this season if they wish to have an improved secondary.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...tep-up-in-2011

Slapstick
07-01-2011, 09:16 AM
While Legurksy may be the better pure player, he is undersized and struggles with larger defensive linemen. This gives Foster a huge (no pun intended) edge.

Yeah, when Pouncey was injured, I knew that big BJ Raji would have a huge Super Bowl... :roll:

The Sodfather
07-01-2011, 09:57 AM
Slappernutz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1