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SMASHMOUTHFOOTBALL
05-11-2011, 07:00 PM
Reggie Bush.....I think he could have much to prove... let go a little to pre-mature and want to go to a winner.

We need another weapon for Ben. He could line up as wideout or as a 3rd down back and spell Mendy.

If cut sign him for a 3 year--15 million deal if he would bite I think he can be had for a decent price. Thoughts?

Shawn
05-11-2011, 07:05 PM
No Thanks...not at 5 million per

BradshawsHairdresser
05-11-2011, 07:41 PM
Too much buck for the bang.

rpmpit
05-11-2011, 07:57 PM
When healthy he's one of the most exciting players in football. But he's one of those guys who seems to always be injured. Not sure its worth the risk.

Snatch98
05-11-2011, 08:45 PM
I think with Ben's ability to improvise and get on the move Reggie Bush would have the opportunity to be ridiculous. However you definitely don't break the bank for the guy. I don't think I'd go 5 million per but who knows what kind of interest he'll garner. He'd be one hell of a 3rd down back with Ben under center. Although it's not a Steeler type move.

NJ-STEELER
05-12-2011, 01:43 AM
all tweet backfield with him and mendy

steelblood
05-12-2011, 07:23 AM
Not for 5 mil per, more like 2-2.5 mil per. Bush is a 3rd down back/return guy. 5 mil is starter money for a RB.

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flippy
05-12-2011, 07:49 AM
all tweet backfield with him and mendy

i was thinking the same thing.

Oviedo
05-12-2011, 08:41 AM
No thanks. Bush is probably one of the most over-hyped players in the history of the NFL. Let someone else overpay for him.

RuthlessBurgher
05-12-2011, 09:14 AM
We should sign:

Ike Taylor
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Lawrence Timmons
Mike Wallace

Any outside free agents that we sign will be minor role players.

flippy
05-12-2011, 09:55 AM
We should sign:

Ike Taylor
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Lawrence Timmons
Mike Wallace

Any outside free agents that we sign will be minor role players.

stop trying to ruin the board with your pragmatism ;)

now, let's go sign nnamdi and ike. actually, if we could sign ike and nnamdi, maybe we could let some of the guys on your list walk. troy's oft injured and becoming more like bob sanders daily. woodley and timmons have loads of LBs behind them that I think could step up and be good ones. and wrs are a dime a dozen.

there are very few guys like ike and nnamdi out there. we could just give nnamdi troy's contract because he doesn't have troy's health issues.

Oviedo
05-12-2011, 09:58 AM
We should sign:

Ike Taylor
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Lawrence Timmons
Mike Wallace

Any outside free agents that we sign will be minor role players.

...and that is how you build a winning organization. Establish priorities to keep your own proven performers and build through the draft.

Here is an interesting hypothetical for you: If Troy have another season where he misses games due to injuries, do you resign him? Definitely one of the greatest Steelers ever but that could be a high risk signing.

RuthlessBurgher
05-12-2011, 10:04 AM
We should sign:

Ike Taylor
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Lawrence Timmons
Mike Wallace

Any outside free agents that we sign will be minor role players.

...and that is how you build a winning organization. Establish priorities to keep your own proven performers and build through the draft.

Here is an interesting hypothetical for you: If Troy have another season where he misses games due to injuries, do you resign him? Definitely one of the greatest Steelers ever but that could be a high risk signing.

Troy's 2009 season was ruined by injury (only played in 5 games). Other than that, he's played in 16, 16, 16, 13, 11, 16, and 14 games.

He's not approaching Bob Sanders levels (who played in 6, 14, 4, 15, 6, 2, 1 games).

steelz09
05-12-2011, 12:03 PM
He's an awesome talent but I don't think Arians is smart enough to utilize him like Payton did.

flippy
05-12-2011, 01:07 PM
Arians would try and turn him into an HBack. And the local beat writers would talk about Arians pony package every other day.

Va Steelr
05-12-2011, 07:40 PM
NOPE!! Reggie has not played in cold weather much,will be too expensive and can't seem
to stay healthy.Hopefully Batch can be our 3rd down guy which is basically all Bush would
be and way less costly.

RuthlessBurgher
05-12-2011, 07:46 PM
He's an awesome talent but I don't think Arians is smart enough to utilize him like Payton did.

Speaking of Payton, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush wind up with a different Peyton in Indy...dome team, high powered offense, Addai is a free agent, Donald Brown hasn't shown much, and they could use Bush as a slot receiver since Anthony Gonzalez is always hurt.

hawaiiansteel
05-13-2011, 02:04 AM
Posted on Wed, May. 11, 2011

Line of Scrimmage: Post-Draft candidates for the chopping block

By Scott Garbarini, The Sports Network


The NFL's continued state of unsettlement has created many an anxious moment for the league's current cast of players, some of whom have a reason to be considerably more nervous than others.

Though roster transactions remain suspended due to the ongoing lockout, now entering its third month of existence with no clear ending point in sight, the writing on the wall has been made conspicuously visible for a number of established veterans following the most recent NFL Draft. And while it's become a near exercise in futility to accurately predict both the outcome and eventual conclusion date of the work stoppage, with each side seemingly holding a realistic chance of receiving a favorable ruling when the U.S.
Court of Appeals makes its decision in a few weeks, speculating which players will ultimately be seeking a new residence when the transaction freeze is finally lifted is far easier (not to mention considerably more interesting) to project.

Below is a listing of a dozen notable players likely to be cut loose by their present teams once their employers are legally able to do so, along with the probable replacement obtained through the draft. Note that this compilation does not include those already certain to hit unrestricted free agency (i.e. Nnamdi Asomugha, Matt Hasselbeck, Ronnie Brown) once the lockout ends, nor does it contain the top candidates to be traded when the new league year does actually get underway, a group that contains the likes of Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer and Carolina wide receiver Steve Smith.

Palmer, incidentally, could turn out to be the most intriguing wild card of this offseason now that the Cincinnati Bengals have secured what they believe to be a viable alternative to the disgruntled quarterback with the drafting of TCU rookie Andy Dalton in the draft's second round. Though notoriously obstinate team owner Mike Brown still seems determined not to give in to Palmer's very public trade demands, those plans could very well change if Dalton quickly proves he's ready for the rigors of the NFL. With teams like the Cardinals, Redskins, Seahawks and Dolphins still on the lookout for a veteran presence under center, Palmer's value may also never be higher than its present point.

Here are 12 prominent names still under contract who may be on the move in the coming months:

David Akers, K, Eagles (potential successor: Alex Henery)

The Eagles didn't use a fourth-round pick on the promising Henery to simply create competition for their long-tenured kicker, and Akers' two costly misses in January's NFC Wild Card Playoff loss to Green Bay likely signaled the end of his mostly successful 12-year run with the organization. Philadelphia did apply the transition tag (worth 2.8 million) to the five-time Pro Bowler in February, but it's almost certain that will now be rescinded with Henery on board.

Marion Barber, RB, Cowboys (potential successor: DeMarco Murray)

Due nearly $5 million in 2011, it was just about a foregone conclusion that a Dallas squad in dire need of a payroll slash would rid themselves of the declining Barber regardless of what the Cowboys did in the draft. The team's selection of Murray, who offers a comparable build and skill set than Barber at a lower cost, merely further illustrates the inevitable.

Reggie Bush, RB, Saints (potential successor: Mark Ingram)

Bush acknowledged his days in The Big Easy are in obvious jeopardy with his well-publicized tweet stating "It's been fun, New Orleans" just minutes after the Saints traded up to draft the ex-Alabama standout Ingram with the 28th overall pick. While both head coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis have gone on record saying that Bush still remains in the team's plans, there's no chance the versatile back will be brought back at the $11.8 million salary he's due this season, and he may be less amenable to restructure after Ingram's addition.

Chris Chambers, WR, Chiefs (potential successor: Jonathan Baldwin)

Chambers, who turns 33 in August and is due $2.9 million over each of the next two seasons, was a likely roster casualty anyway after a woefully unproductive 2010 campaign, but the Chiefs' somewhat surprising choosing of the talented Baldwin in the draft's first round signifies the final nail in the veteran's coffin.

Marc Colombo, OT, Cowboys (potential successor: Tyron Smith)

Like Barber, Colombo is overpriced, injury-prone and experienced a significant drop-off in his level of play over the past couple of years, and Dallas' tabbing of the extremely-talented Smith with the ninth overall pick provides the team with an instant substitute. With the Cowboys also high on 2010 rookie Sam Young as a swing reserve, Colombo has little chance to return at his $2.4 million salary.

Ray Edwards, DE, Vikings (potential successor: Christian Ballard)

Edwards is one of several players with an uncertain contract status due to the absence of a collective bargaining agreement, as he would be a restricted free agent in the event the league elects to keep the 2010 rules in place for one more season. The Vikings covered their bases by offering a first-round tender worth close to $2.8 million to the five-year pro, but the team's signing of understudy Brian Robison to an extension in March and fourth-round selection of Ballard indicates it's probably ready to move on. If Edwards does wind up restricted, expect Minnesota to shop him extensively in the offseason.

Albert Haynesworth, DL, Redskins (potential successor: Jarvis Jenkins)

Yes, Haynesworth actually does remain property of the Redskins at the time of this column, but it's no secret that the problematic defensive lineman will never play another down with the Burgundy and Gold again. After landing a possible starter in Jenkins in the second round of the draft, Washington will try its best to find a new suitor for Haynesworth on the trade market, though those efforts will likely be in vain considering his exorbitant contract and history of bad behavior. Donovan McNabb, another Redskin in a state of exile, would have also made this list had the club been able to find a quarterback in the draft.

Brandon Jackson, RB, Packers (potential successor: Alex Green)

Though Jackson led the Packers in rushing during last year's Super Bowl run, his role had greatly diminished down the stretch and figured to be even more limited with two-time 1,000-yard runner Ryan Grant set to return from injury this season. With Green Bay snaring Green, a solid receiver who played in a pass-heavy system at Hawaii, in the third round, there looks to be little room for Jackson on a roster that also includes Grant and late-2010 breakout star James Starks.

James Jones, WR, Packers (potential successor: Randall Cobb)

The versatile Cobb, a one-time quarterback at Kentucky who should take over as the Packers' primary return man as a rookie, may ultimately be the heir apparent to the aging Donald Driver, but he's also likely to get an immediate chance to supplant Jones, who seems to have worn out his welcome with Mike McCarthy and the Green Bay staff due to untimely drops and a maddening inconsistency. Though the Pack did give him a tender as a potential restricted free agent, it would hardly be surprising if the team removes the offer once the lockout ends.

Chad Ochocinco, WR, Bengals (potential successor: A.J. Green)

While one can never exactly be sure just what the Bengals are thinking, it's as clear as day that Marvin Lewis has had enough of Ochocinco's childish antics and never-ending need for attention. Throw in the fact that the 33- year-old wideout's skills are eroding and No. 4 overall pick Green has all the physical tools to become a top-shelf receiver without the headaches, and it's hard to envision The Ocho's act staying in Cincinnati. Palmer stands a better chance of remaining on the payroll than his longtime top target.

Brad Smith, WR/KR, Jets (potential successor: Jeremy Kerley)

The Jets appeared inclined to retain Smith, the NFL's leader in kick return average a year ago, after offering the converted college quarterback a second- round restricted free agent tender prior to the lockout. However, the addition of fifth-round choice Kerley, one of the most accomplished return men in the college ranks and a worthwhile prospect as a slot receiver as well, seems to make Smith now expendable.

Vince Young, QB, Titans (potential successor: Jake Locker)

Young's name should come as no surprise, since the Titans announced their intentions to sever ties with the one-time franchise face months ago, but the unexpected selection of Locker with the eighth overall pick was an emphatic rebuttal to any remaining skeptics. The move also effectively ends Tennessee's already minuscule chances of trading the moody quarterback, who's due a $4.25 million roster bonus in addition to an $8.5 million salary in 2011.

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Oviedo
05-13-2011, 08:51 AM
Posted on Wed, May. 11, 2011

Line of Scrimmage: Post-Draft candidates for the chopping block

By Scott Garbarini, The Sports Network


The NFL's continued state of unsettlement has created many an anxious moment for the league's current cast of players, some of whom have a reason to be considerably more nervous than others.

Though roster transactions remain suspended due to the ongoing lockout, now entering its third month of existence with no clear ending point in sight, the writing on the wall has been made conspicuously visible for a number of established veterans following the most recent NFL Draft. And while it's become a near exercise in futility to accurately predict both the outcome and eventual conclusion date of the work stoppage, with each side seemingly holding a realistic chance of receiving a favorable ruling when the U.S.
Court of Appeals makes its decision in a few weeks, speculating which players will ultimately be seeking a new residence when the transaction freeze is finally lifted is far easier (not to mention considerably more interesting) to project.

Below is a listing of a dozen notable players likely to be cut loose by their present teams once their employers are legally able to do so, along with the probable replacement obtained through the draft. Note that this compilation does not include those already certain to hit unrestricted free agency (i.e. Nnamdi Asomugha, Matt Hasselbeck, Ronnie Brown) once the lockout ends, nor does it contain the top candidates to be traded when the new league year does actually get underway, a group that contains the likes of Kevin Kolb, Carson Palmer and Carolina wide receiver Steve Smith.

Palmer, incidentally, could turn out to be the most intriguing wild card of this offseason now that the Cincinnati Bengals have secured what they believe to be a viable alternative to the disgruntled quarterback with the drafting of TCU rookie Andy Dalton in the draft's second round. Though notoriously obstinate team owner Mike Brown still seems determined not to give in to Palmer's very public trade demands, those plans could very well change if Dalton quickly proves he's ready for the rigors of the NFL. With teams like the Cardinals, Redskins, Seahawks and Dolphins still on the lookout for a veteran presence under center, Palmer's value may also never be higher than its present point.

Here are 12 prominent names still under contract who may be on the move in the coming months:

David Akers, K, Eagles (potential successor: Alex Henery)

The Eagles didn't use a fourth-round pick on the promising Henery to simply create competition for their long-tenured kicker, and Akers' two costly misses in January's NFC Wild Card Playoff loss to Green Bay likely signaled the end of his mostly successful 12-year run with the organization. Philadelphia did apply the transition tag (worth 2.8 million) to the five-time Pro Bowler in February, but it's almost certain that will now be rescinded with Henery on board.

Marion Barber, RB, Cowboys (potential successor: DeMarco Murray)

Due nearly $5 million in 2011, it was just about a foregone conclusion that a Dallas squad in dire need of a payroll slash would rid themselves of the declining Barber regardless of what the Cowboys did in the draft. The team's selection of Murray, who offers a comparable build and skill set than Barber at a lower cost, merely further illustrates the inevitable.

Reggie Bush, RB, Saints (potential successor: Mark Ingram)

Bush acknowledged his days in The Big Easy are in obvious jeopardy with his well-publicized tweet stating "It's been fun, New Orleans" just minutes after the Saints traded up to draft the ex-Alabama standout Ingram with the 28th overall pick. While both head coach Sean Payton and GM Mickey Loomis have gone on record saying that Bush still remains in the team's plans, there's no chance the versatile back will be brought back at the $11.8 million salary he's due this season, and he may be less amenable to restructure after Ingram's addition.

Chris Chambers, WR, Chiefs (potential successor: Jonathan Baldwin)

Chambers, who turns 33 in August and is due $2.9 million over each of the next two seasons, was a likely roster casualty anyway after a woefully unproductive 2010 campaign, but the Chiefs' somewhat surprising choosing of the talented Baldwin in the draft's first round signifies the final nail in the veteran's coffin.

Marc Colombo, OT, Cowboys (potential successor: Tyron Smith)

Like Barber, Colombo is overpriced, injury-prone and experienced a significant drop-off in his level of play over the past couple of years, and Dallas' tabbing of the extremely-talented Smith with the ninth overall pick provides the team with an instant substitute. With the Cowboys also high on 2010 rookie Sam Young as a swing reserve, Colombo has little chance to return at his $2.4 million salary.

Ray Edwards, DE, Vikings (potential successor: Christian Ballard)

Edwards is one of several players with an uncertain contract status due to the absence of a collective bargaining agreement, as he would be a restricted free agent in the event the league elects to keep the 2010 rules in place for one more season. The Vikings covered their bases by offering a first-round tender worth close to $2.8 million to the five-year pro, but the team's signing of understudy Brian Robison to an extension in March and fourth-round selection of Ballard indicates it's probably ready to move on. If Edwards does wind up restricted, expect Minnesota to shop him extensively in the offseason.

Albert Haynesworth, DL, Redskins (potential successor: Jarvis Jenkins)

Yes, Haynesworth actually does remain property of the Redskins at the time of this column, but it's no secret that the problematic defensive lineman will never play another down with the Burgundy and Gold again. After landing a possible starter in Jenkins in the second round of the draft, Washington will try its best to find a new suitor for Haynesworth on the trade market, though those efforts will likely be in vain considering his exorbitant contract and history of bad behavior. Donovan McNabb, another Redskin in a state of exile, would have also made this list had the club been able to find a quarterback in the draft.

Brandon Jackson, RB, Packers (potential successor: Alex Green)

Though Jackson led the Packers in rushing during last year's Super Bowl run, his role had greatly diminished down the stretch and figured to be even more limited with two-time 1,000-yard runner Ryan Grant set to return from injury this season. With Green Bay snaring Green, a solid receiver who played in a pass-heavy system at Hawaii, in the third round, there looks to be little room for Jackson on a roster that also includes Grant and late-2010 breakout star James Starks.

James Jones, WR, Packers (potential successor: Randall Cobb)

The versatile Cobb, a one-time quarterback at Kentucky who should take over as the Packers' primary return man as a rookie, may ultimately be the heir apparent to the aging Donald Driver, but he's also likely to get an immediate chance to supplant Jones, who seems to have worn out his welcome with Mike McCarthy and the Green Bay staff due to untimely drops and a maddening inconsistency. Though the Pack did give him a tender as a potential restricted free agent, it would hardly be surprising if the team removes the offer once the lockout ends.

Chad Ochocinco, WR, Bengals (potential successor: A.J. Green)

While one can never exactly be sure just what the Bengals are thinking, it's as clear as day that Marvin Lewis has had enough of Ochocinco's childish antics and never-ending need for attention. Throw in the fact that the 33- year-old wideout's skills are eroding and No. 4 overall pick Green has all the physical tools to become a top-shelf receiver without the headaches, and it's hard to envision The Ocho's act staying in Cincinnati. Palmer stands a better chance of remaining on the payroll than his longtime top target.

Brad Smith, WR/KR, Jets (potential successor: Jeremy Kerley)

The Jets appeared inclined to retain Smith, the NFL's leader in kick return average a year ago, after offering the converted college quarterback a second- round restricted free agent tender prior to the lockout. However, the addition of fifth-round choice Kerley, one of the most accomplished return men in the college ranks and a worthwhile prospect as a slot receiver as well, seems to make Smith now expendable.

Vince Young, QB, Titans (potential successor: Jake Locker)

Young's name should come as no surprise, since the Titans announced their intentions to sever ties with the one-time franchise face months ago, but the unexpected selection of Locker with the eighth overall pick was an emphatic rebuttal to any remaining skeptics. The move also effectively ends Tennessee's already minuscule chances of trading the moody quarterback, who's due a $4.25 million roster bonus in addition to an $8.5 million salary in 2011.

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I'd love to get Brad Smith as the "Slash" player. No one else on that list is even remotely interesting.

proudpittsburgher
05-13-2011, 09:50 AM
No thanks. Bush is probably one of the most over-hyped players in the history of the NFL. Let someone else overpay for him.


And I am sure the Redskins will. :) It strikes me as funny how everyone and their mothers on TV just trashed the Texans for passing on Bush, and they far and away made the right decision. Considing most people recognize Bush as an explosive third down back. :) He isn;t the same kind of a bust as a Ryan Leaf or a Jamarcus Russell, but he is a bust nonetheless, considering what he was supposed to be, so sayeth the "experts"

hawaiiansteel
05-14-2011, 03:05 PM
Bush says he still prefers to be a Saint

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NEW ORLEANS Reggie Bush is back in the Big Easy, where he's backing away from recent Twitter posts that indicated he may not see the New Orleans Saints in his future.

"I would love to retire here if possible," Bush said Saturday. "I would love to play for the Saints for however long my career, God-willing, allows me to play. First and foremost, I want to be a Saint."

Bush spoke during his annual youth football camp at Tulane, on the same fields where he's been absent while teammates have been taking part in workouts organized by Saints quarterback Drew Brees during the NFL lockout.

Bush said he soon expects to join some of those workouts, albeit "sparingly." He also expressed regret over several of his recent comments on Twitter that he has posted since the Saints selected Alabama running back and former Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram in the first round of the NFL draft on April 28.

Soon after Ingram was drafted, Bush wrote: "It's been fun New Orleans." He has since wrote that he was making the best of the lockout by relaxing and taking vacation. The timing of the latter tweet, after about 40 Saints players had started working out together at Tulane, drew criticism from a number of fans in New Orleans.

"Obviously sometimes you write things and you say things and it may come off the wrong way," Bush said. "It may be taken the wrong way. You may not even mean it that way or you may regret it. At the end of the day, I probably shouldn't have tweeted that and I probably shouldn't have said that and I'm sure a lot of people took it the wrong way and I apologize to the city of New Orleans if they have."

Bush added that he thinks Ingram is "a great player and I think he's going to have a huge role here."

"He can help us, you know? We need all the help we can get and that's part of what happens in the NFL draft," Bush continued. "You get help and you get great players."

Bush said he is healthy and that he has been working out hard on his own in Los Angeles at a gym owned by former Saints teammate Billy Miller.

"Look at these guns," he said, chuckling, as he flexed his right bicep.

He added that he has been "messing around" with some ultimate fighting training with FOX Sports personality Jay Glazer.

Bush is due about $11.8 million for the 2011 season, but the Saints expect him to take a pay cut. Bush said he remains willing to negotiate, as he initially stated after the season.

However, he stopped short of saying he was confident a deal would be reached.
"That's something that me, my agent and the Saints have to collectively come together and talk about and just come to a meeting point, a happy medium," Bush said.

"Obviously, we know that there's going to have to be some type of pay cut and there's going to have to be some type of re-negotiation."

Bush and his agent, Joel Segal, cannot negotiate with the club right now because of the lockout, which could drag on for months.

In 2010, Bush missed eight games because a broken bone in his lower right leg, and during the other eight games was used as a role player with 36 carries for 150 yards and 34 receptions for 208 yards and his only touchdown of the season.

When a federal court ruling compelled the NFL to briefly lift the lockout the day after Ingram was drafted, Payton called Bush to ensure the five-year pro that there was still a place for him in New Orleans.

Brees said he also sent Bush text messages of support. The quarterback said Bush should see Ingram's addition as an opportunity to reduce the pounding he takes on carries into the line and focus more on an array of runs and pass routes that let him use his speed an agility in the open field.

"Drew's the leader of our team, he's our quarterback, so of course it resonates definitely, a lot," Bush said. "I hear it and I know they want me here and I know that the coaches want me here and the team wants me here. So it's just a matter of handling the business side of it. It sucks, but every player is going to have to deal with it at some point in time in their career."

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