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papillon
05-08-2011, 11:54 PM
This program is rating the top 100 players of 2011 and judged by the players themselves. One of the hosts mentioned that there were only 4 Steelers and 6 Cowboys on the list. So, knowing that Woodley is at #82, that leaves three more Steelers: Ben, Troy and Silverback (my guess, they're releasing the players 10 at a time on Sunday evenings for 10 weeks).

None of these players deserved to be top 100?

Maurkice Pouncey
Lawrence Timmons
Casey Hampton
Heath Miller
James Farrior
Rashard Mendenhall

Hard to believe that none of them are in the top 100 players currently playing in the NFL. Or, as fans, do we over estimate the quality of play of the above players? There are very few, if any, players from other teams at their positions that I'd rather have over the Steelers I have listed above.

Pappy

hawaiiansteel
05-09-2011, 12:14 AM
Rashard Mendenhall was originally in the Top 100 list, but after his recent Twitter comments he was dropped just like the ball was on his crucial fumble in the Super Bowl.

RuthlessBurgher
05-09-2011, 08:55 AM
How does Dallas have 6?

I'll give them Ware and Witten, sure. Who else? I suppose Romo in a QB-centric league, and probably Miles Austin too, even though he was much better 2 years ago than he was last year (but I'll give him a pass due to playing with backup QB's for most of the year). Too early for stupid @$$ Dez Bryant, right?. I'm stumped. Jay #&@%ing Ratliff???

SteelerNation1
05-09-2011, 02:09 PM
How does Dallas have 6?

Jay #&@%ing Ratliff???
Jay Ratliff is the guy I like most. Ware is a putz. He's a one trick pony who couldn't hold Harrison or Woodley's jock as a complete OLB.

RuthlessBurgher
05-09-2011, 03:11 PM
How does Dallas have 6?

Jay #&@%ing Ratliff???
Jay Ratliff is the guy I like most. Ware is a putz. He's a one trick pony who couldn't hold Harrison or Woodley's jock as a complete OLB.

I agree with the complete OLB sentiment. But anyone who gets double digits sacks in each of the last 5 seasons (80 sacks in 6 NFL seasons) certainly deserves to be on such a list even if he did absolutely nothing else whatsoever.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-09-2011, 03:46 PM
How does Dallas have 6?

Jay #&@%ing Ratliff???
Jay Ratliff is the guy I like most. Ware is a putz. He's a one trick pony who couldn't hold Harrison or Woodley's jock as a complete OLB.

Most overrated non-QB in the league IMO.

steelblood
05-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Ware deserves to be on the list. He is an elite pass rusher.

6 players from that team is just wrong.

costanza2k1
05-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Let's not forget that these aren't picked by the NFL network, they're picked by the players themselves...so a popularity contest could be in play as well. For example McNabb was ranked 100...how the f does that happen?

NJ-STEELER
05-09-2011, 05:01 PM
Maurkice Pouncey
Lawrence Timmons
Casey Hampton
Heath Miller
James Farrior
Rashard Mendenhall

do we over estimate the quality of play of the above players?

Pappy

I think we do. It happens to all fan bases. I've yet to see the list but here's my opinion

Pounce... Was great for us. But does even the best center in the league make the list? His position make it tough IMO

TIMMMONS... Don't think he belongs

Hamp... Probably still one of the best NTs in the game. Doesn't get the sack stats that catches voters eyes

Miller.... One of the better 2 way TEs in the league. But again likely look for the dynamic guys like gAtes and gonzo. He's not downfield threat like those other guys

NJ-STEELER
05-09-2011, 05:03 PM
Farrior don't belong and if mendy has another year like last, he might be in there

hawaiiansteel
05-09-2011, 07:36 PM
Monday, May 09, 2011

Only 4 Steelers Make NFL Network Top 100 Players Of 2011 List


Now that the 2011 NFL Draft is complete, the NFL Network has begun their Top 100 Players of 2011 series. The top list is being billed as the first-ever countdown of the 100 Best NFL players of today, as voted on by fellow NFL players. If you were hoping for several Steelers players to make the top 100 list, you will be surely disappointed. Last night it was revealed by Lindsay Soto, Brian Baldinger and Charles Davis that only four Steelers players made the top 100 list.

In the episode last night that featured players ranked 81st to 90th, it was announced that Steelers linebacker LaMarr Woodley came in 82nd. With Woodley now out of the way, it is not very hard to figure out who the remaining three Steelers players will be and all three analyst pretty much agreed it would be Troy Polamalu, Ben Roethlisberger and James Harrison. It would surprise me as well if those three were not it.

I think you could make a solid argument that Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace should have made the top 100 especially if Buccaneers receiver Mike Williams can crack the list as the 83rd best player. Wallace may have had 5 less regular season receptions and 1 less touchdown than Williams, but Wallace finished with nearly 300 more reception yards than Williams and averaged 6.2 more yards a catch in addition. Wallace played a huge role in the Steelers offense last year as he filled the void perfectly left by Santonio Holmes, who was traded last offseason. Without the play of Wallace, the Steelers surely would have not made it to the Super Bowl last year.

Three other Steelers player you could debate that should be on the list are linebacker Lawrence Timmons, running back Rashard Mendenhall and center Maurkice Pouncey, but I do admit you better make a pretty good argument for the two latter players.

Timmons was everywhere in 2010 for the Steelers and finished 8th in the league in total tackles. He also chipped in 3 sacks, 2 interceptions, 2 forced fumbles and 9 defensed passes. He was always around the ball game-in and game-out. 49ers linebacker Patrick Willis will surely make the top 100 and so too should have Timmons in my opinion.

As I mentioned, Mendenhall and Pouncey are tougher arguments to make. Mendenhall finished the 2010 season with 1,440 all-purpose yards and 13 touchdowns, but did this behind an offensive line that stayed in flux for most of the season. The anchor of that line was Pouncey, a rookie center that earned Pro Bowl honors after an impressive first year in the NFL.

While Pouncey was not dominating in every game, he certainly was the best offensive lineman the Steelers had in 2010 and it is hard to imagine the Steelers making a deep playoff run without him.

Back to Woodley now, as I was a bit shocked to see him get ranked so low on the list and both Baldinger and Davis agreed in their remarks. Woodley, like Harrison, is a premier outside linebacker in the league and ranking him that low is in insult. Another 30 spots up the list is not out of the question and you have to wonder what the players were thinking that ranked him so terribly low.

It will likely be a long wait until the countdown gets to Polamalu, Roethlisberger and Harrison. All three could easily wind up in the top 25 and Polamalu might be a top 10 recipient as he is well respected by the players around the league for his play. These countdowns and list are what will fuel the offseason debates until the lockout is lifted and I am sure there will be quite a few head-scratchers moving forward from 81.

Below is the list so far following the Sunday night episode:

81. B.J. Raji, NT, Packers
82. LaMarr Woodley, OLB, Steelers
83. Mike Williams, WR, Buccaneers
84. Josh Cribbs, KR/WR, Browns
85. Jason Babin, DE, Titans
86. Josh Freeman, QB, Buccaneers
87. Jordan Gross, T, Panthers
88. Vernon Davis, TE, 49ers
89. Adrian Wilson, S, Cardinals
90. Joe Flacco, QB, Ravens
91. Terrell Owens, WR, Bengals
92. Lance Briggs, OLB, Bears
93. Eric Berry, S, Chiefs
94. Frank Gore, RB, 49ers
95. Jon Beason, MLB, Panthers
96. Nick Collins, S, Packers
97. Shaun Phillips, OLB, Chargers
98. Darren McFadden, RB, Raiders
99. Chad Clifton, T, Packers
100. Donovan McNabb, QB, Redskins

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/05/on ... 2011-list/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/05/only-4-steelers-make-nfl-network-top-100-players-of-2011-list/)

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-10-2011, 10:22 AM
Keep in mind that while Top 100 sounds like a lot of players, it really only represents about 6% of the players in the league.

Also keep in mind that each player only plays against 13 out of the 31 other teams each year - and for 10 of those teams only once. So the argument that the players are the best judges because they see each other face to face is wrong.

Most of the players that they form an opinion on are done by watching them on Sportscenter - not even live games because they are playing when their peers are.

papillon
05-10-2011, 10:52 AM
Keep in mind that while Top 100 sounds like a lot of players, it really only represents about 6% of the players in the league.

Also keep in mind that each player only plays against 13 out of the 31 other teams each year - and for 10 of those teams only once. So the argument that the players are the best judges because they see each other face to face is wrong.

Most of the players that they form an opinion on are done by watching them on Sportscenter - not even live games because they are playing when their peers are.

That's a very good point. I wonder if they only allowed players to vote for other players in which the two teams actually played a game? Probably not, but it might have been a better way for the players to vote.

Pappy

plainnasty
05-10-2011, 08:35 PM
I know this much. There are more than 4 Steelers that are better than Joe Flacco.

Shoe
05-15-2011, 10:46 PM
I think you could make a solid argument that Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace should have made the top 100 especially if Buccaneers receiver Mike Williams can crack the list as the 83rd best player. Wallace may have had 5 less regular season receptions and 1 less touchdown than Williams, but Wallace finished with nearly 300 more reception yards than Williams and averaged 6.2 more yards a catch in addition. Wallace played a huge role in the Steelers offense last year as he filled the void perfectly left by Santonio Holmes, who was traded last offseason. Without the play of Wallace, the Steelers surely would have not made it to the Super Bowl last year.

I came on here, becuase I just saw this (episode). I wouldn't take both Mike Williams' over Mike Wallace.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
05-16-2011, 09:54 AM
No Steelers on last night. I don't expect to see another of our players for at least 3 weeks.

papillon
05-16-2011, 01:49 PM
No Steelers on last night. I don't expect to see another of our players for at least 3 weeks.

Yea, because the ones that are left have to be top thirty. It would be difficult to name 27 players better than Ben, Troy and James. Ben will probably be the next Steeler to make the list that's how good James and Troy right now.

Pappy

BackwoodsSteeler
05-16-2011, 05:30 PM
This is just another in a long line of ESPN garbage.

Brady will be #1, Manning in the top 3 (even though it's top 100 from last year...and Christ, McNabb made it) and Ben will once again, be under-rated and under appreciated.

RuthlessBurgher
05-16-2011, 10:05 PM
This is just another in a long line of ESPN garbage.

Brady will be #1, Manning in the top 3 (even though it's top 100 from last year...and Christ, McNabb made it) and Ben will once again, be under-rated and under appreciated.

NFL Network garbage, not ESPN garbage.

Captain Lemming
05-18-2011, 11:23 PM
This is just another in a long line of ESPN garbage.

Brady will be #1, Manning in the top 3 (even though it's top 100 from last year...and Christ, McNabb made it) and Ben will once again, be under-rated and under appreciated.

NFL Network garbage, not ESPN garbage.

Look at the name. In the "Backwoods" you don't got that NFL network stuff. :lol: