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hawaiiansteel
05-01-2011, 06:33 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 06:48 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!

Flasteel
05-01-2011, 07:22 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!


It's all about roster spots for each position...how do you not see that? The writer wasn't trying to imply that a 6th or 7th round TE was going to take Spaeth or even DJ's roster spot...necessarily. The lack of a top-flight corner without a doubt puts more pressure on the organization to sign Ike and the two offensive linemen (especially Gilbert, not Williams as much) mean that a current big ugly will be hitting the bricks...ahem...Tony Hills...ahem.

The only point of contention I would make is that the Batch kid would be a 3rd down receiving back, much in the same mold as Moore; not Dwyer.

You really need to slow your roll dude. You have a real ******* feel to nearly all of your posts (not all...just most) and you constantly call out others who disagree with your take on things. You seem to be somewhat knowledgeable and willing to do the research to back a lot of your stuff up, but don't let that fool you into believing that you are some kind of expert.

You're simply not.

Dale Lolley on the other hand, has a long history of bringing us solid information and is a beat reporter for the organization. You calling him clueless is...well, clueless. :tt2

D Rock
05-01-2011, 07:47 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!


It's all about roster spots for each position...how do you not see that? The writer wasn't trying to imply that a 6th or 7th round TE was going to take Spaeth or even DJ's roster spot...necessarily. The lack of a top-flight corner without a doubt puts more pressure on the organization to sign Ike and the two offensive linemen (especially Gilbert, not Williams as much) mean that a current big ugly will be hitting the bricks...ahem...Tony Hills...ahem.

The only point of contention I would make is that the Batch kid would be a 3rd down receiving back, much in the same mold as Moore; not Dwyer.

You really need to slow your roll dude. You have a real ******* feel to nearly all of your posts (not all...just most) and you constantly call out others who disagree with your take on things. You seem to be somewhat knowledgeable and willing to do the research to back a lot of your stuff up, but don't let that fool you into believing that you are some kind of expert.

You're simply not.

Dale Lolley on the other hand, has a long history of bringing us solid information and is a beat reporter for the organization. You calling him clueless is...well, clueless. :tt2
:Bow

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 07:50 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!


It's all about roster spots for each position...how do you not see that? The writer wasn't trying to imply that a 6th or 7th round TE was going to take Spaeth or even DJ's roster spot...necessarily. The lack of a top-flight corner without a doubt puts more pressure on the organization to sign Ike and the two offensive linemen (especially Gilbert, not Williams as much) mean that a current big ugly will be hitting the bricks...ahem...Tony Hills...ahem.

The only point of contention I would make is that the Batch kid would be a 3rd down receiving back, much in the same mold as Moore; not Dwyer.

You really need to slow your roll dude. You have a real ******* feel to nearly all of your posts (not all...just most) and you constantly call out others who disagree with your take on things. You seem to be somewhat knowledgeable and willing to do the research to back a lot of your stuff up, but don't let that fool you into believing that you are some kind of expert.

You're simply not.

Dale Lolley on the other hand, has a long history of bringing us solid information and is a beat reporter for the organization. You calling him clueless is...well, clueless. :tt2



Ah no actually I am not. There is NO top flight CB in any draft.....ONLY Opinions of who the mel Kipers of the world SAY are top flight. So, bringing in Patrick Peterson carries NO MORE weight, or leverage then bringing in ANY other CB! Ike is a UFA,,,who we draft is NOT gonna matter to any other team that needs a CB. If a CB needy team like say Houston likes, and wants Ike Taylor.....what CB we drafted will make ZERO change in what the steelers will offer him. And won't in any way matter to Houston what they offer him.


So yeah son, I think I am right. And I KNOW I know more then that clueless idiotic writer,,,okay ?

Flasteel
05-01-2011, 08:30 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!


It's all about roster spots for each position...how do you not see that? The writer wasn't trying to imply that a 6th or 7th round TE was going to take Spaeth or even DJ's roster spot...necessarily. The lack of a top-flight corner without a doubt puts more pressure on the organization to sign Ike and the two offensive linemen (especially Gilbert, not Williams as much) mean that a current big ugly will be hitting the bricks...ahem...Tony Hills...ahem.

The only point of contention I would make is that the Batch kid would be a 3rd down receiving back, much in the same mold as Moore; not Dwyer.

You really need to slow your roll dude. You have a real ******* feel to nearly all of your posts (not all...just most) and you constantly call out others who disagree with your take on things. You seem to be somewhat knowledgeable and willing to do the research to back a lot of your stuff up, but don't let that fool you into believing that you are some kind of expert.

You're simply not.

Dale Lolley on the other hand, has a long history of bringing us solid information and is a beat reporter for the organization. You calling him clueless is...well, clueless. :tt2



Ah no actually I am not. There is NO top flight CB in any draft.....ONLY Opinions of who the mel Kipers of the world SAY are top flight. So, bringing in Patrick Peterson carries NO MORE weight, or leverage then bringing in ANY other CB! Ike is a UFA,,,who we draft is NOT gonna matter to any other team that needs a CB. If a CB needy team like say Houston likes, and wants Ike Taylor.....what CB we drafted will make ZERO change in what the steelers will offer him. And won't in any way matter to Houston what they offer him.

So yeah son, I think I am right. And I KNOW I know more then that clueless idiotic writer,,,okay ?


Son?

Now you're an internet tough guy eh? I can promise that you wouldn't dream of taking that tone if we were in the same room, so why try to flex on this forum. It only makes you appear like more of a douche than you are already seem.

What makes you more qualified than an NFL beat writer?

Did you play?

Coach?

Are you currently employed by an NFL team or to cover a team?

Do you get paid to analyze talent or break down film?

Would you know what to look for on film?

Like I said, you come off as somewhat knowledgeable, but your attitude clouds nearly every syllable you type. Try a little humility on for size, or at least ditch the delusions of grandeur you keep spewing on the forum.

pfelix73
05-01-2011, 08:49 PM
:Agree

You are new here..We've seen this kind of bunk from many people over the years. It's just an article that someone wrote, so just calm down and take a deep breath-relax.

:tt1

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 09:19 PM
SUNDAY, MAY 01, 2011

posted by Dale Lolley

Steelers draft winners, losers


The smoke has cleared and the dust has settled on the 2011 NFL draft. Here's a look at some of the Steelers' winners and losers coming out of the draft:

Winners

Ike Taylor - Cha-ching. A first-round cornerback would have at least tempered Pittsburgh's need to bring back their top corner at all costs. As it stands - with just third- and fourth-round prospects added – the Steelers must assure that Taylor comes back at all costs.

Limas Sweed - With no young receiver added, Sweed will be given every chance to prove that he's finally got his act together after missing last season with an Achilles' tendon injury. The talent is there for the former second-round pick.

Matt Spaeth - The Steelers would have liked to have added another tight end in the draft, but the opportunity never presented itself. Spaeth likely gets at least one more year.

Shaun Suisham - The Steelers could have selected a young placekicker to challenge Suisham, but did not.


Losers

Chris Kemoeatu, Ramon Foster, Tony Hills - Two young offensive linemen, Marcus Gilbert and Keith Williams, will push for starting jobs and roster spots.

William Gay, Keenan Lewis – The addition of two young corners means Gay, a free agent, likely won't be back. Lewis has really fallen out of favor and might be on his last legs.

Jonathan Dwyer - The one thing seveth-round running back Baron Batch does really, really well is catch the ball out of the backfield. Dwyer does not. With Isaac Redman establishing himself as Rashard Mendenhall's top backup, the Steelers will be looking to keep a back who does something the other two do not.

Nick Eason - Eason has been a solid, steady reserve for some time now, but with two first-round defensive ends added in the past three years, finding a roster spot for Eason might be difficult. Not impossible, but difficult.

http://burgh.us/4ld




I don't know where to start this article is so stupid. And the writer so clueless. Those points of view are way off. No matter who, or when we select a player is not going to effect what Ike will want, or what the steelers will offer. Worse comes to worse, there are plenty of other NFL Free agent DB's out there not named Nnamdi. Same too for Sweed and Spaeth. Oh okay, so if we would have tagged a WR and TE in rounds 6 or 7, THOSE guys would have meant the end for Spaeth and Sweed ? But signing two or three undrafted free agent WR's and TE's,,,that makes them completely safe and untouchable ?




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Like I said, that writer is clueless!!


It's all about roster spots for each position...how do you not see that? The writer wasn't trying to imply that a 6th or 7th round TE was going to take Spaeth or even DJ's roster spot...necessarily. The lack of a top-flight corner without a doubt puts more pressure on the organization to sign Ike and the two offensive linemen (especially Gilbert, not Williams as much) mean that a current big ugly will be hitting the bricks...ahem...Tony Hills...ahem.

The only point of contention I would make is that the Batch kid would be a 3rd down receiving back, much in the same mold as Moore; not Dwyer.

You really need to slow your roll dude. You have a real ******* feel to nearly all of your posts (not all...just most) and you constantly call out others who disagree with your take on things. You seem to be somewhat knowledgeable and willing to do the research to back a lot of your stuff up, but don't let that fool you into believing that you are some kind of expert.

You're simply not.

Dale Lolley on the other hand, has a long history of bringing us solid information and is a beat reporter for the organization. You calling him clueless is...well, clueless. :tt2



Ah no actually I am not. There is NO top flight CB in any draft.....ONLY Opinions of who the mel Kipers of the world SAY are top flight. So, bringing in Patrick Peterson carries NO MORE weight, or leverage then bringing in ANY other CB! Ike is a UFA,,,who we draft is NOT gonna matter to any other team that needs a CB. If a CB needy team like say Houston likes, and wants Ike Taylor.....what CB we drafted will make ZERO change in what the steelers will offer him. And won't in any way matter to Houston what they offer him.

So yeah son, I think I am right. And I KNOW I know more then that clueless idiotic writer,,,okay ?


Son?

Now you're an internet tough guy eh? I can promise that you wouldn't dream of taking that tone if we were in the same room, so why try to flex on this forum. It only makes you appear like more of a douche than you are already seem.

What makes you more qualified than an NFL beat writer?

Did you play?

Coach?

Are you currently employed by an NFL team or to cover a team?

Do you get paid to analyze talent or break down film?

Would you know what to look for on film?

Like I said, you come off as somewhat knowledgeable, but your attitude clouds nearly every syllable you type. Try a little humility on for size, or at least ditch the delusions of grandeur you keep spewing on the forum.




No.........But I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express :D ........Does that count ?

Slapstick
05-01-2011, 09:25 PM
Wow. What's up with inanesteelerfan?

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 09:30 PM
Wow. What's up with inanesteelerfan?



Nothing. I am just stating my opinion, like he is, and you are :D I just think the writer is assuming alot by what positions we drafted. Bottom line no matter what, no current steeler has anything to worry about until these newbies, drafted high or not...PROVE themselves..." Worthy to remain among Us " :lol: ...as Mr.Han,,,from Enter the Dragon would have said.

Flasteel
05-01-2011, 10:12 PM
Wow. What's up with inanesteelerfan?



Nothing. I am just stating my opinion, like he is, and you are :D I just think the writer is assuming alot by what positions we drafted. Bottom line no matter what, no current steeler has anything to worry about until these newbies, drafted high or not...PROVE themselves..." Worthy to remain among Us " :lol: ...as Mr.Han,,,from Enter the Dragon would have said.

I'm glad you can be light-hearted about this, and I've noticed this same pattern in your other posts. You go on the warpath, then back down once it starts to get ugly with another poster. I'm not about to suggest how another person goes about conducting their business (until ingrines upon my business or violates acceptable decorum), but maybe you should consider mellowing out a little. We're a civil bunch here and don't have much tolerance for unprovoked attacks.

As far as what Lolley was stating, it's pretty simple. No matter how poorly a first or second round pick performs, they are guaranteed a roster spot. As a matter of fact, I can't recall us ever cutting a 3rd round-rounder before they made the final roster.

Every year we have to look at how many roster spots we are going to dedicate to certain positions. We will rarely carry more than 3 quarterbacks or 4 running backs for example. Only if a player shows tremendous potential would we overstock at one position at the risk of thinning another. Ask Thad Gibson about that.

If we're at our standard limit for offensive lineman or running back and we draft that position in one of the first 3 rounds, you can pretty much guarantee that the low man on the totem pole is getting a visit from the Turk. Likewise, if a guy is already on the bubble (like Sweed) and we don't bring in anyone else at that position via the draft or free agency, then they may very well get a chance to stick.

For someone who seems to know a little bit about the game, this shouldn't have to be explained. To attack a well-respected beat writer for stating it, is just plain ridiculous. Hopefully this ends the negativity and we can all bask in the last bit of NFL action we're going to have until August...hopefully. :tt2

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 10:30 PM
Wow. What's up with inanesteelerfan?



Nothing. I am just stating my opinion, like he is, and you are :D I just think the writer is assuming alot by what positions we drafted. Bottom line no matter what, no current steeler has anything to worry about until these newbies, drafted high or not...PROVE themselves..." Worthy to remain among Us " :lol: ...as Mr.Han,,,from Enter the Dragon would have said.

I'm glad you can be light-hearted about this, and I've noticed this same pattern in your other posts. You go on the warpath, then back down once it starts to get ugly with another poster. I'm not about to suggest how another person goes about conducting their business (until ingrines upon my business or violates acceptable decorum), but maybe you should consider mellowing out a little. We're a civil bunch here and don't have much tolerance for unprovoked attacks.

As far as what Lolley was stating, it's pretty simple. No matter how poorly a first or second round pick performs, they are guaranteed a roster spot. As a matter of fact, I can't recall us ever cutting a 3rd round-rounder before they made the final roster.

Every year we have to look at how many roster spots we are going to dedicate to certain positions. We will rarely carry more than 3 quarterbacks or 4 running backs for example. Only if a player shows tremendous potential would we overstock at one position at the risk of thinning another. Ask Thad Gibson about that.

If we're at our standard limit for offensive lineman or running back and we draft that position in one of the first 3 rounds, you can pretty much guarantee that the low man on the totem pole is getting a visit from the Turk. Likewise, if a guy is already on the bubble (like Sweed) and we don't bring in anyone else at that position via the draft or free agency, then they may very well get a chance to stick.

For someone who seems to know a little bit about the game, this shouldn't have to be explained. To attack a well-respected beat writer for stating it, is just plain ridiculous. Hopefully this ends the negativity and we can all bask in the last bit of NFL action we're going to have until August...hopefully. :tt2




Sorry you think that. I can be strong when I state an opinion, but I DO resect you, and ALL my steeler Brothers :tt1 On a side note, today IS my Birthday,,,and maybe I'm a liitle adjetated that I am closer to Death :x

Sugar
05-01-2011, 10:38 PM
I am curious as to how Sweed does in camp (assuming there is one). He seems to have some real upside if he can put things together. Of course, we've been saying that for a few years now...

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 10:43 PM
I am curious as to how Sweed does in camp (assuming there is one). He seems to have some real upside if he can put things together. Of course, we've been saying that for a few years now...




I hope so to. But for any Athlete, I hear a Achillies injury is the hardest to come back from. This is especially true for those with really thin ankles. And Sweed looks to have pretty thin ankles. But I certainly hope he can.

hawaiiansteel
05-01-2011, 11:13 PM
On a side note, today IS my Birthday,,,and maybe I'm a liitle adjetated that I am closer to Death :x


Happy Birthday my fellow Steelers brother.... :Beer

http://www.shortbreadcity.com/Steelers_cupcake_tower_003.jpg

insanesteelersfan
05-01-2011, 11:31 PM
On a side note, today IS my Birthday,,,and maybe I'm a liitle adjetated that I am closer to Death :x


Happy Birthday my fellow Steelers brother.... :Beer

http://www.shortbreadcity.com/Steelers_cupcake_tower_003.jpg



The HELL with the picture,,,where are the ACTUAL Cupcakes~ ? :P

NJ-STEELER
05-01-2011, 11:37 PM
very surprised we didnt select a TE

perhaps they would bring in someone like saunders as a UFA who came in on a visit

flippy
05-02-2011, 12:08 AM
On a side note, today IS my Birthday,,,and maybe I'm a liitle adjetated that I am closer to Death :x

It's the grumpy old man syndrome :D

I totally get it. I get a little more jaded every year that passes.

Happy birthday, btw.

steelblood
05-02-2011, 07:24 AM
take the first "s" out of insanesteelerfan and whadda ya get?

Ghost
05-03-2011, 09:26 AM
Taylor - I think the Steelers will do a lot to get him signed but I also think there is a real possibility of some team throwing ludicrous money at him and the Steelers not matching (as they shouldn't). I'm guessing the coaches are seriously discussing this scenario.

Sweed - not worried about his achilles nearly as much as his head and his apparrent loss of ability to hold on to the ball since coming to the NFL. If he can't distinguish himself early, cut him - it will be time to walk away.

Spaeth - The coaches just love this guy for some reason. He's found away to be here 5 years. There are 5 TE's on the roster and it is an underwhelming group after Heath. MS has a final roster spot waiting for him again this season.

Suisham - there is a second kicker on the roster from AL-Birmingham. Disappointing. I don't think he is the clutch kicker they need. Maybe he's been frantically working out in the off season knowing this is his last shot. Hopefully....

Gay - routinely the worst player on the field for either team when he's out there. Let him walk and give a younger guy a shot. Would love to see both the rooks become special team aces. (And Gay can take Madison with him as well).

Eason - good bye. Good back up but not worth the roster spot anymore.

Dwyer - this may be one of the most interesting camp battles this year. Do they hold onto Moore for one more year or can Batch fill that role? What exactly does Dwyer bring to the table? Got to figure 2 of three - Moore, Batch , Dwyer make the team . Guessing Johnson from Kan St isn't a factor.

There HAS to be a season this year!!!!!!!!

Oviedo
05-03-2011, 09:59 AM
Taylor - I think the Steelers will do a lot to get him signed but I also think there is a real possibility of some team throwing ludicrous money at him and the Steelers not matching (as they shouldn't). I'm guessing the coaches are seriously discussing this scenario.

Sweed - not worried about his achilles nearly as much as his head and his apparrent loss of ability to hold on to the ball since coming to the NFL. If he can't distinguish himself early, cut him - it will be time to walk away.

Spaeth - The coaches just love this guy for some reason. He's found away to be here 5 years. There are 5 TE's on the roster and it is an underwhelming group after Heath. MS has a final roster spot waiting for him again this season.

Suisham - there is a second kicker on the roster from AL-Birmingham. Disappointing. I don't think he is the clutch kicker they need. Maybe he's been frantically working out in the off season knowing this is his last shot. Hopefully....

Gay - routinely the worst player on the field for either team when he's out there. Let him walk and give a younger guy a shot. Would love to see both the rooks become special team aces. (And Gay can take Madison with him as well).

Eason - good bye. Good back up but not worth the roster spot anymore.

Dwyer - this may be one of the most interesting camp battles this year. Do they hold onto Moore for one more year or can Batch fill that role? What exactly does Dwyer bring to the table? Got to figure 2 of three - Moore, Batch , Dwyer make the team . Guessing Johnson from Kan St isn't a factor.

There HAS to be a season this year!!!!!!!!


(And Gay can take Madison with him as well).


Getting rid of Madison would be an instant upgrade to our secondary. he has clung on to a roster spot too long based upon an unsupported legendary status as a special teams player. Reality is that Sylvester and a couple of others were better or just as good last year.

Having Madison on the roster is like wasting a spot on a second lon snaper. See ya later.

hawaiiansteel
05-04-2011, 07:04 PM
Wednesday, May 04, 2011

Post Draft Looks Good For The Return Of Chris Hoke To The Steelers

http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/t_29444_01.jpg

Everyone knew the Steelers would be addressing the defensive line during the draft, but the only question was to what degree they would do so. Prior to the draft defensive end was the most apparent need with nose tackle being a distant second along the defensive front. While it would have come to no surprise if the Steelers would have drafted a young nose tackle to groom behind Casey Hampton, they didn't.

Hampton signed a new three-year contract last February and his play in 2010 was well above the line. He logged just over 500 snaps on defensive last season including the playoffs and only missed the one game against the Titans early in the season due to a hamstring injury suffered in week one against the Falcons. He showed no real signs of slowing down even though he will turn 34 in September.

Chris Hoke was again the back up Hampton at the nose tackle position last season and in addition, he rotated in at defensive end throughout the season due to attrition on the defensive line. Left defensive end Aaron Smith tore his biceps during the week 7 game against the Dolphins and never played another down for the rest of the season. In addition to Smith, right defensive end Brett Keisel missed 5 starts due to quad/hamstring issues. Hoke was there to pick up the slack in both instances and only missed the week 4 game against the Ravens due to an MCL sprain suffered in mop up duty against the Buccaneers a week earlier.

Like Hampton, Smith and Keisel, Hoke is over 30 years of age as he just turned 35 last month. He logged just over 260 snaps last season on defense for the Steelers including the playoffs and played well when inserted into the game. Hoke is currently an unrestricted free agent who almost certainly would love to end his career in Pittsburgh. Being as the Steelers did not address nose tackle in the draft it is looking even better for him to return for at least one more season in 2011.

The Steelers could and likely will sign an undrafted free agent nose tackle type as soon as free agency begins, but the longer the lockout rolls on, the more the deck is stacked against that player making the 53 man roster and he certainly would not have the versatility or experience that Hoke has in the Dick LeBeau 3-4 system. Versatility is usually the key for a player on the bottom end of the 53 man roster and Hoke has it. An undrafted free agent nose tackle at this point would seem almost certain to be destined for the practice squad out of training camp and that is just how the career of Hoke started in Pittsburgh.

Outside of his play on the field, Hoke is also model player and a great leader in the locker room. He has earned everything he has received since going undrafted out of BYU and is the consummate professional. He almost certainly will be open to helping out first round draft Cameron Heyward in his rookie season and in the further development of defensive end Ziggy Hood in addition.

Hoke deserves one more season in the black and gold and now looks almost certain to be re-signed once free agency opens. Hoke knows his role on the team and he plays it well. At the start of the offseason I thought Hoke may be a 50/50 proposition to return depending on what the Steelers did in the draft, but noted it would hard not seeing him return regardless. Now as we sit here almost one week after the draft, I would say it looks more like 90/10 he will be back. I hope he is and I hope the Steelers can send him out in style with yet another Super Bowl ring. Here is to the return of Hokie.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/05/po ... -steelers/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/05/post-draft-looks-good-for-the-return-of-chris-hoke-to-the-steelers/)

sentinel33
05-04-2011, 08:22 PM
As far as Taylor is concerned, the Steelers need to do everything they can to keep him.
A-he is worth top-tier money. Always healthy. Great character. Essentially a shutdown corner with not-so-good hands. Madison and Gay need to be jetisoned. need that $ to sign Ike. Brown takes Madisons spot. Easy-peezy.

With Sweed, I can't tell you guys how hard I am praying that he can get it straight. His physical attributes are the missing link to this passing attack. But they will cut him if he doesnt have it. But he has to beat out both Randle El and Battle. We are only gonna carry 5 WR's, so only one spot at that position is open. Be that guy, Sweed! Or you are done. :(

Was hoping to upgrade over Spaeth, but that didn't happen. He'll be here for another year unless a UCFA comes in and blows the doors off. But we all know that won't happen.

What ever happened to piotr czech? I can remember hearing good things about him, but then nothing materialized. Sweezy better be gettin ready!

Eason has been a very solid reserve and it will be sad to see him go. But not that sad with Heyward coming in. WOW! Talk about having serious badas$ depth on the Ends. Can't wait to see our pass rush this season. Take care Eason. I appreciated your effort along the way and I know I'm not the only one. Good luck to you.

I have a hard time believing Dwyer will be let go. The way Tomlin likes to run them "'til the wheels come off" means we need a guy like him on the roster. Furthermore, the team needs $ for Ike and Moore will be that casualty. I will miss Moore very much. I followed him when he played for Tulane and rewrote alot of there records. I was actually hoping the Steelers would somehow take him, but picking up Fast Willie that year was a nice consolation and I would not rewrite that one if I had the chance. You can imagine how stoked I was when we picked him from Minnesota(my 2nd favorite team)(lived out there for 8 years, so...). I will miss MeMo.
And with Baron looking more and more like a steal, we can overcome the loss of Moore.

RuthlessBurgher
05-05-2011, 01:23 PM
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/t_29444_01.jpg

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(ke)!!!

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/hacksaw2.jpg

flippy
05-05-2011, 01:29 PM
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/t_29444_01.jpg

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(ke)!!!

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/hacksaw2.jpg

Nice. Another Kunta Kinte pic :)

RuthlessBurgher
05-05-2011, 01:39 PM
http://www.bestsportsphotos.com/images/t_29444_01.jpg

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(ke)!!!

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/hacksaw2.jpg

Nice. Another Kunta Kinte pic :)

Instead of being whipped, though, he gets hit with a 2 X 4, though (or perhaps a metal folding chair).

Keyplay1
05-07-2011, 09:19 AM
Lolley's name came up in a thread several days ago on another site due to a mix-up of another site with sideline in its name. I thought the link was to his blog but saw it was not after I opened it. Anyway, since his name popped up, I did decide to take a look at his latest articles.

As soon as I saw the article I nearly flipped. Of course, you immediately see where he was coming from. Steeler winners and losers. Funny!.

But it was even funnier to me for this reason. Prior to the draft, I was not one who was thinking the Steelers would be big on getting OL. As a matter of fact, I was wondering wtf they were going to do with the bushel they already had. Yeah, I know this was not consensus thinking but that is what I thought for many reasons. Well, the Steelers not only drafted one in rd2 but picked another up in a later rd. The first thing that popped into my head then of course was so long someone or two. Obviously, there will be significant changes.

Anyway, here is Lolley's article sort of letting quite a few players start breathing again. :D :D Thank the lord for BPA/BAA. Incidentally, NJ-STEELER, that TE guy Hendricks everyone liked went real high in rd2. That would really have stirred the pot.

Anyway, i found nothing there to seriously disagree with. The only comment I could think of was in regards to Ike. Had the Steelers taken this position in rd1 no doubt it might affect their thinking. However, the first thing that crossed my mind was maybe not only Ike is a winner here but also the Steelers are really the big winners. I recalled the reason the Steelers got James Farrior. The Jets drafted a #1 pick LB. This clouded their thinking on James. The Steelers capitalized. Needless to say how this turned out.

birtikidis
05-08-2011, 12:21 PM
I still can't believe we took Gilbert in round two. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think it was a terrible pick.

hawaiiansteel
05-08-2011, 02:47 PM
I still can't believe we took Gilbert in round two. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think it was a terrible pick.


maybe this will help you to feel better about Gilbert, both Mike Mayock and Walter Football had him rated very highly:


Mayock On the Draft: Offensive Tackle, Interior Line


The Riser

Marcus Gilbert

6-6, 330
40-time: 5.41

Mayock: ``Has long arms. Is a strong kid. I thought he was a pretty solid player on tape. I liked him even better at the Senior Bowl. He looks the part and is a solid second-round pick, but it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody took him late in the first.’’

Round projection: 2

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... z1KmohhzeN


and this is who WalterFootball has us selecting at 2(63) in his latest mock:


2(63) Pittsburgh Steelers: Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida

Marcus Gilbert's draft stock is gaining some momentum. Mike Mayock recently said that he could be chosen in the second round.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php

birtikidis
05-08-2011, 02:54 PM
I still can't believe we took Gilbert in round two. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think it was a terrible pick.


maybe this will help you to feel better about Gilbert, both Mike Mayock and Walter Football had him rated very highly:


Mayock On the Draft: Offensive Tackle, Interior Line


The Riser

Marcus Gilbert

6-6, 330
40-time: 5.41

Mayock: ``Has long arms. Is a strong kid. I thought he was a pretty solid player on tape. I liked him even better at the Senior Bowl. He looks the part and is a solid second-round pick, but it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody took him late in the first.’’

Round projection: 2

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... z1KmohhzeN


and this is who WalterFootball has us selecting at 2(63) in his latest mock:


2(63) Pittsburgh Steelers: Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida

Marcus Gilbert's draft stock is gaining some momentum. Mike Mayock recently said that he could be chosen in the second round.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php
I'm a Gator fan. I may have missed 2 games in the last 5 years. He's garbage.

fordfixer
05-08-2011, 11:12 PM
I still can't believe we took Gilbert in round two. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think it was a terrible pick.


maybe this will help you to feel better about Gilbert, both Mike Mayock and Walter Football had him rated very highly:


Mayock On the Draft: Offensive Tackle, Interior Line


The Riser

Marcus Gilbert

6-6, 330
40-time: 5.41

Mayock: ``Has long arms. Is a strong kid. I thought he was a pretty solid player on tape. I liked him even better at the Senior Bowl. He looks the part and is a solid second-round pick, but it wouldn’t surprise me if somebody took him late in the first.’’

Round projection: 2

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... z1KmohhzeN


and this is who WalterFootball has us selecting at 2(63) in his latest mock:


2(63) Pittsburgh Steelers: Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida

Marcus Gilbert's draft stock is gaining some momentum. Mike Mayock recently said that he could be chosen in the second round.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2011_2.php
I'm a Gator fan. I may have missed 2 games in the last 5 years. He's garbage.
He must of played really well in those 2 games :lol: :lol:

birtikidis
05-09-2011, 10:06 AM
I will admit, he is a different player on the right side then he is on the left. i also didn't like him at guard. But he did look better when he was on the right...

hawaiiansteel
05-31-2011, 03:28 PM
2011 NFL Draft Grades, San Francisco 49ers Opponents: Pittsburgh Steelers

by nocal81(Vincent) on May 30, 2011


My final installment of this series is going to focus on the 49ers last 2011 outer division opponent. The AFC Champion, Pittsburgh Steelers. This is a team that continues to draft well and rebuild through the drafts rather than spending large sums of money in free agent. And, well it has worked extremely well for them. It is hard to imagine a team that continues to pick towards the back end of each round picking up so many solid players.

I envy the way Pittsburgh runs their war room, how they go about scouting specific players, and are not caught up with the perceived flashiness of some players. Instead, Pittsburgh decides to go for hard nosed, tough and intelligent players via the draft. Their 2010 selections of Maurkice Pouncey and Chris Scott are perfect examples of this.

Today, I am going to be taking a look at their 2011 draft class and give you a brief overview of how I believe they did. Once again, I would have to conclude that Pittsburgh hit yet another home run.


1st Round, 31st Pick: DE- Cameron Heyward Ohio State

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 26 2010 Stats: 48 Tackles. 3.5 Sacks, 1 INT

Analysis: The Pittsburgh Steelers hope that Heyward adds to a strong legacy of impact players they have drafted recently on the defensive side of the ball. A nice amount of the players they have drafted towards the end of each round, where the usually select, have come in an performed at a great level. Ziggy Hood and LaMarr Woodley the most recent examples.

Heyward seems to be a perfect fit for their 3-4 system. He is a space eater that does find opportunities to get into the defensive backfield. As evidenced by the Steelers move of Hood to the 3-4 defensive end position, the Steelers are looking for bulk at that position. With Hood, Hampton and Heyward you are looking at over 900 pounds of bulk in the front three, making it an easier road to the QB for their elite outside linebacking duo of James Harrison and the afformentioned Woodley.

I like the way Heyward plays the game. He isn't going to be the most flash of players, but what he will do is get the job done. Pittsburgh got both value and need with the second to last pick of the 1st round. Grade: A


2nd Round, 63rd Pick: OT- Marcus Gilbert Florida

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 81

Analysis: The Steelers went into the 2011 draft with a glaring need at right tackle and seemed to reach for a prospect that most teams didn't have as high as them. That said, Flozell Adams, at 36, is on his last legs. This was an area that they needed to address. I think that Jah Reid would have been a better value here, but Gilbert has a nice amount of upside

Gilbert is extremely strong in the pass protection aspect of the game, something that Pittsburgh needs. However, Gilbert does struggle in terms of holding down lanes in the running game. With another unproven player, Ramon Foster, manning the right guard position, this could be an issue for Pittsburgh moving forward. Running games tend to struggle when the defense knows which direction the majority of the runs are going to go. With Maurkice Pouncey manning the center position and Chris Kemoeatu playing left guard, it is pretty obvious where the Steelers are going to run. Grade: C+


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3rd Round, 95th Pick: CB- Curtis Brown Texas

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 69 2010 Stats: 23 Tackles, 1 Forced Fumble, 1 INT

Analysis: Absolutely love this pick for Pittsburgh. Ike Taylor is a free agent and will probably not be returning unless he takes less money, Bryant McFadden has a solid bounce back year after being acquired from Arizona, but he is nothing more than a #2 corner at this point. After that you are not looking at too much in regards to the Steelers corner back play. However, I am a fan of William Gay and believe he will turn into a solid NFL starter. Five years in, he needs to prove himself this season.

Brown was your prototypical shut down corner at Texas, most teams just decided to avoid his area of th field; hence the pedestrian numbers. He is extremely solid at reading the QB and potential routes the receivers are taking. This along with the fact that he has a good eye and knack to jump on the ball leads me to believe Brown's transition to the NFL will not be too great. I envision a scenario where he takes over as the nickel corner in 2011, only to progress through the season. Really solid pick for Pittsburgh here. Grade: A


4th Round, 128th Pick: CB- Cortez Allen Citadel

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 176 2010 Stats: 51 Tackles, 2 INT, 1 TD

Analysis: At over 6 feet and 200 pounds, Allen has the frame to be an elite player in the secondary. There are rumors that the Steelers plan to switch him to safety, which he could play, but I am not entirely too sure about that.

The word "top developmental player in the draft" has been used a lot; but, what does this mean? Because he was playing in the FCS not Division 1? I think that Allen should be able to come in immediately and contribute on special teams. Once he earns his "wings", watch out. He is physically talented, ultra competitive and a strong cover man. More than that, Allen can knock opposing offensive players on the ground with his superior hitting ability. He is extremely strong in zone coverage and does a great job back peddling and not getting turned around against receivers. Fortunately, I was able to find some film on Allen; and am extremely impressed while he plays the game. Pittsburgh may just have gotten a gem here. Grade: A


5th Round, 162nd Pick: LB- Chris Carter Fresno State

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 93 2010 Stats: 54 Tackles, 11 Sacks

Analysis: Like Pittsburgh needed another OLB that gets to the QB on a regular basis. I am sure that the Baltimore Ravens are not too excited that Carter fell to the Steelers in the 5th round. As evidenced by CBS Sports Line ranking, this was great value for Pittsburgh.

Carter is extremely explosive off of the snap, gets good pressure around the edge, and is consistently in the offensive back field. He will not be a full time OLB in the NFL because of his lacking coverage skills, this is probably the reason Carter fell to the 5th round. But, as a situational pass rusher I see him teaming up with Woodley and Harrison and adding another dimension to the Steelers defense. Grade: A


6th Round, 196th Pick: G- Keith Williams Arizona State

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 192

Analysis: I am not extremely familiar with how Williams translates to the NFL or how he plays the game. So, I will just attack a snip it from Sideline Scouting:

Good length... Solid pass blocker... Reasonably quick... Solid lateral movement and slide... Stays square to the defender... Arms are not especially long but he plays with good extension... Hold up reasonably well to the bull rush... Does a solid job versus stunts and delayed blitzes

Marginal knee bender, plays a little too high in pass protection... Shorter than ideal arm length... Lowers his head too much... Struggles to maintain balance and re-set.

7th Round, 232nd Pick: RB- Baron Batch Texas Tech

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 408 2010 Stats: 816 Rush Yards, 4.6 AVG, 32 Receptions, 226 Yards, 8 TD

Analysis: Watching a lot of Big 12 games, I found Batch to be an extremely underrated player. He won't be much more than a 3rd down back in the NFL, but Mendenhall is going to be getting a majority of the rushes anyway. Look for Batch to come in on occasion and contribute a great deal. I love his receiving ability, which is essential for a 3rd down back, also he does extremely well picking up blocks; another necessity. Grade: A

Synopsis: This is a team that continues to build themselves through the draft. Year after year, they come through big time. Not just with their early round picks, but finding gems in the mid-late rounds as well. Just look what they have done recently in the draft, and you will understand what I am talking about.

2010: Maurkice Pouncey (1st), Emmanuel Sanders (3rd), Chris Scott (5th), Antonio Brown (6th)

2009: ZIggy Hood (1st), Mike Wallace (3rd)

2008: Rashard Mendenhall (1st), Dennis Dixon (5th)

2007: Lawrence Timmons (1st), LaMarr Woodley (2nd), William Gay (5th)

2006: Willie Colon (4th)

2005: Heath Miller (1st), Bryant McFadden (2nd), Chris Kemoeatu (6th),

You are looking at 13 different players the Steelers have drafted since 2005 that are either regular starters, or fill in admirably for starters. That is quite a nice load for a team usually picking towards the back end of each round.

I don't think this year is much different. There first four picks seem to translate well as future starters int the NFL. Heyward should get a lot of reps from day one, Gilbert will need some season, but should be ready by year two, Curtis Brown should challenge for a nickel spot and Cortez Allen has tremendous upside.

I think that Pittsburgh did well once again in terms of the draft and the good keep on getting better. There is a reason that New England and Pittsburgh are always among the NFL elite. Grade: A

http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/5/30/2 ... pittsburgh (http://www.ninersnation.com/2011/5/30/2196175/2011-nfl-draft-grades-san-francisco-49ers-opponents-pittsburgh)

RuthlessBurgher
05-31-2011, 03:47 PM
6th Round, 196th Pick: G- Keith Williams Arizona State

CBS Sports Line Ranking: 192

Analysis: I am not extremely familiar with how Williams translates to the NFL or how he plays the game. So, I will just attack a snip it from Sideline Scouting:

Good length... Solid pass blocker... Reasonably quick... Solid lateral movement and slide... Stays square to the defender... Arms are not especially long but he plays with good extension... Hold up reasonably well to the bull rush... Does a solid job versus stunts and delayed blitzes

Marginal knee bender, plays a little too high in pass protection... Shorter than ideal arm length... Lowers his head too much... Struggles to maintain balance and re-set.

No wonder the author is not extremely familiar with how Williams translates to the NFL or how he plays the game. While he was busy trying to find Keith Williams on Arizona State film, Keith was busy lining up for Nebraska. Oh well...you can't win 'em all, I suppose. :wink:

Shawn
06-01-2011, 10:12 AM
Personally, I think it's a good article and I think the writer is right on. As for some "opinionated" posters, well we all know the deal. No need to feed it.