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steelerkeylargo
04-29-2011, 11:00 PM
I will do I write up of Gilbert based off my notes. I know it won't be a great one though. He is a a RTO or a RG. Really struggles with speed and is sloppy and lazy with technique. Very inconsistent. Catch blocker and doesn't take the action to the defender.

papillon
04-29-2011, 11:02 PM
I will do I write up of Gilbert based off my notes. I know it won't be a great one though. He is a a RTO or a RG. Really struggles with speed and is sloppy and lazy with technique. Very inconsistent. Catch blocker and doesn't take the action to the defender.

That's why they hired Sean Kugler...

Pappy

hawaiiansteel
04-29-2011, 11:10 PM
Marcus Gilbert and Maurkice Pouncey are close friends, that alone will keep Gilbert motivated.

Gilbert may be a RT only, but that's what we need with Flo playing probably one more season and Colon's status uncertain.

steelblood
04-29-2011, 11:13 PM
I don't mind that we took him, I just don't like where we took him. To me, he is a 4th round tackle. But, I hope that he is better than I have observed.

hawaiiansteel
04-29-2011, 11:15 PM
I don't mind that we took him, I just don't like where we took him. To me, he is a 4th round tackle. But, I hope that he is better than I have observed.


Mike Mayock is on record as saying Marcus Gilbert is a second rounder...

papillon
04-29-2011, 11:21 PM
I find it impossible to believe that the Steelers scouting department and coaching staff graded this guy incorrectly by a minimum of 34 spots (2.63 to 4.97). I have to believe Gilbert is closer to a 2nd round pick than a 4th round pick.

Pappy

steelerkeylargo
04-29-2011, 11:35 PM
Wexell on Gilbert....I agree


9:40 p.m.: I wish I didn't have to be so negative, and there's always the very, very, most excellent chance that I'm wrong, but I don't like the Steelers' second-round pick Marcus Gilbert.

I watched Florida closely the last two years because of the Pouncey twins, and this past season it was a struggle to watch because of the rest of the Florida line. Gilbert was one of the reasons, as he was beaten too often for my taste at LT. He was moved to RT by the end of the season, but by then I had stopped watching. Perhaps he was better on the right side. Hopefully he was.

OL Coach Sean Kugler isn't sure where the 6-6.1, 330-pounder will play. He mentioned that he likes the way Gilbert pulls, and that he could end up at guard, but that "his position will come out."

Gilbert is the son of a Secret Service agent who guarded the last three presidents. The hope here is that Marcus develops better and more quickly than Tony Hills has, but count me among those on the negative side right now

hawaiiansteel
04-29-2011, 11:43 PM
Wexell on Gilbert....I agree


9:40 p.m.: I wish I didn't have to be so negative, and there's always the very, very, most excellent chance that I'm wrong, but I don't like the Steelers' second-round pick Marcus Gilbert.

I watched Florida closely the last two years because of the Pouncey twins, and this past season it was a struggle to watch because of the rest of the Florida line. Gilbert was one of the reasons, as he was beaten too often for my taste at LT. He was moved to RT by the end of the season, but by then I had stopped watching. Perhaps he was better on the right side. Hopefully he was.

OL Coach Sean Kugler isn't sure where the 6-6.1, 330-pounder will play. He mentioned that he likes the way Gilbert pulls, and that he could end up at guard, but that "his position will come out."

Gilbert is the son of a Secret Service agent who guarded the last three presidents. The hope here is that Marcus develops better and more quickly than Tony Hills has, but count me among those on the negative side right now


Gilbert's best position will either be at RT or at RG, both positions of need for the Steelers.

steelerkeylargo
04-30-2011, 12:01 AM
Wexell on Gilbert....I agree


9:40 p.m.: I wish I didn't have to be so negative, and there's always the very, very, most excellent chance that I'm wrong, but I don't like the Steelers' second-round pick Marcus Gilbert.

I watched Florida closely the last two years because of the Pouncey twins, and this past season it was a struggle to watch because of the rest of the Florida line. Gilbert was one of the reasons, as he was beaten too often for my taste at LT. He was moved to RT by the end of the season, but by then I had stopped watching. Perhaps he was better on the right side. Hopefully he was.

OL Coach Sean Kugler isn't sure where the 6-6.1, 330-pounder will play. He mentioned that he likes the way Gilbert pulls, and that he could end up at guard, but that "his position will come out."

Gilbert is the son of a Secret Service agent who guarded the last three presidents. The hope here is that Marcus develops better and more quickly than Tony Hills has, but count me among those on the negative side right now


Gilbert's best position will either be at RT or at RG, both positions of need for the Steelers.

I totally agree!! I even have in my notes that he looks much more comfortable on the Right side. Just think he could have gone at least a round later though, if not two. This reminds me of the Essex draft pick.

BradshawsHairdresser
04-30-2011, 12:47 AM
Once again, Colbert shows a penchant for second-pick mediocrity.

flippy
04-30-2011, 12:57 AM
There are questions, but a lot to like too. This kid is big and strong and looks fairly nimble for his size from what little I've seen of him. But the thing I suspect that may play most in his favor is his ability to play so many positions. It's gotta mean the kid is smart and a hard worker and I bet that's why Tomlin wanted him.

Everything points to him being a high character kid and a leader.

It'll be interesting to see what Koogs can do with him.

Oviedo
04-30-2011, 06:41 AM
Can't say this pick thrilled me but in Colbert and Tomlin I'll trust. Heck our "horrible" OL has played in three Super Bowls in the past six years and all I hear is how bad they are.

I do think we have much greater concerns in our secondary than on our OL. IMO our OL is on a slow, albeit very slow, rise. Our secondary is on the decline and we may still lose our best CB in free agency.

steelsnis
04-30-2011, 07:39 AM
Once again, Colbert shows a penchant for second-pick mediocrity.

Once again, Bradshaw'sHairdresser shows a penchant for super-negativity... :wink:

Chadman
04-30-2011, 08:58 AM
Chadman has finally worked it out- Steelers fans love having something to be negative about... :D

SKL has obviously put some time & effort into his analysis of the rookies this year, so must respect his opinions/fears for Gilbert.

That said, Chadman has liked nearly everything he's read about Gilbert, knows that he was part of an OL that made Tim Tebow a 1st round pick, and thinks that Kugs looked a wee bit happy with him. Steelers attended Florida's pro day, so they obviously got to see something they liked- and Chadman finds it hard to believe that the Steelers would draft a player based on a pro day workout & Maurkice's recommendation. Chadman thinks that maybe they saw something on film they liked/looked for.

As for Bradshaw's Hairdresser- if Gilbert ends up anything like that horrible LaMarr Woodley guy, Chadman will accept that as a pass.

steelernation77
04-30-2011, 09:30 AM
Did anyone else read Wexell's mock draft on Thursday? The one where he trades half the draft for Pouncey? Sorry but I'll trust Mayock and the Steelers FO here over some small time journalist.

Mister Pittsburgh
04-30-2011, 09:30 AM
I trust the steelers evaluation skills on this. They watched a boatload of Florida film the past 2 drafts. Kugs did an excellent job last year as well.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-30-2011, 09:47 AM
Gilbert will be given the shot at RG and unless they draft a true G or sign a FA, he has the best skill set and pulling ability of anyone as their option at RG. They like his in game versitility to play both tackle spots but I think he is destined for the right side. Kugler worked him out in position drills and they like his short area quickness. He is not a sloppy 330 like Foster. Gilbert was rated as a 2-3 by both Mayock & Brandt.

BradshawsHairdresser
04-30-2011, 09:48 AM
As for Bradshaw's Hairdresser- if Gilbert ends up anything like that horrible LaMarr Woodley guy, Chadman will accept that as a pass.

Woodley was an exception. But in general, Colbert has been unimpressive with his second picks.

Oh well. We had to get someone in to take the place of Essex, who will likely exit via free agency.

Hope I'm wrong and Gilbert turns out to be an upgrade.

papillon
04-30-2011, 10:35 AM
As for Bradshaw's Hairdresser- if Gilbert ends up anything like that horrible LaMarr Woodley guy, Chadman will accept that as a pass.

Woodley was an exception. But in general, Colbert has been unimpressive with his second picks.

Oh well. We had to get someone in to take the place of Essex, who will likely exit via free agency.

Hope I'm wrong and Gilbert turns out to be an upgrade.

It would be difficult not to be an upgrade based on many of the comments about last year's below the line offensive line. :P

Pappy

flippy
04-30-2011, 11:35 AM
I'd let him compete for the RG spot immediately. And you have the flexibility to move him to RT when Adams is gone.

hawaiiansteel
05-01-2011, 06:46 PM
Former Gator Gilbert reunites with Steelers’ Pouncey

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2011/04/30/00/B82709409Z.1_20110430000206_000+GVU2LB7S3.3-0.embedded.prod_affiliate.56.jpg

The Steelers selected offensive tackle Marcus Gilbert in the second round, joining him with former UF teammate Maurkice Pouncey.

BY MIKE MCCALL

MIAMI HERALD WRITER


GAINESVILLE -- Marcus Gilbert will suit up at a different level of football in 2011, but he will have a familiar face on the line with him.

Gilbert, a product of Fort Lauderdale St. Thomas Aquinas, was taken in the second round of the NFL Draft on Friday, joining the Pittsburgh Steelers, where he again will play with center and former University of Florida teammate Maurkice Pouncey.

Gilbert was the second Florida player off the board (center Mike Pouncey went to the Dolphins at No. 15 in the first round), going at No. 63 overall in a pick that was announced by Steelers Hall of Fame running back Franco Harris.

“That is a typical Pittsburgh pick right there,” NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. “You can plug him in, he has tremendous size and athletic ability and can play either tackle. They need some youth and athleticism, and Gilbert provides that.”

Gilbert played at both tackle spots last season for Florida, where he started all 13 games.

He now will join a team that features five-time Pro Bowler Flozell Adams and Gators alumnus Max Starks, but because Adams and Starks are 35 and 29, respectively, an influx of youth was needed.

That’s where Gilbert comes in.

“When it comes to size and athleticism, he’s almost as impressive as any guy in this draft,” said Scott Wright, founder and analyst for DraftCountdown.com. “He’s 6-foot-6, 330 pounds, and he moves well. I think he can play left tackle in the NFL. …

“To me, he’s definitely a starter. It seemed like late in the process, he started moving up draft boards to be considered a second- or third-rounder.”


Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2 ... z1L8U1cDhv (http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2193627/gilbert-reunites-with-steelers.html#ixzz1L8U1cDhv)

NJ-STEELER
05-01-2011, 11:14 PM
I just thought of an added bonus to the pick

With the lockout on again. He'll be ahead of other rookie OL we could have drafted cause Mo will be feeding him info on blocking schemes

Oviedo
05-02-2011, 09:49 AM
I just thought of an added bonus to the pick

With the lockout on again. He'll be ahead of other rookie OL we could have drafted cause Mo will be feeding him info on blocking schemes

The relationship Pouncey has with him could definitely be an advantage. If they get together to work out together there could be lots of information sharing. That alone probably made Gilbert a better choice than other OL who were available.

RuthlessBurgher
05-02-2011, 10:01 AM
I just thought of an added bonus to the pick

With the lockout on again. He'll be ahead of other rookie OL we could have drafted cause Mo will be feeding him info on blocking schemes

The relationship Pouncey has with him could definitely be an advantage. If they get together to work out together there could be lots of information sharing. That alone probably made Gilbert a better choice than other OL who were available.

Another ex-Gator Max Starks could also help, since he is more familiar with the responsibilities of a tackle in our scheme than Pouncey is.

steelerkeylargo
10-01-2013, 11:13 PM
Look what I found.

Discipline of Steel
10-01-2013, 11:31 PM
I'd let him compete for the RG spot immediately. And you have the flexibility to move him to RT when Adams is gone.

Almost nailed it Flippy...except they moved him to RT before Adams is gone.

steelblood
10-03-2013, 11:35 AM
I don't mind that we took him, I just don't like where we took him. To me, he is a 4th round tackle. But, I hope that he is better than I have observed.

This is one of the few times that I look back at an old post of mine and think that I wasn't drinking when I wrote it.

And

Way to go Keylargo! you nailed that one.

SteelCrazy
10-03-2013, 12:24 PM
I will do I write up of Gilbert based off my notes. I know it won't be a great one though. He is a a RTO or a RG. Really struggles with speed and is sloppy and lazy with technique. Very inconsistent. Catch blocker and doesn't take the action to the defender.


that sounds a lot like our new LT.

thor75
10-03-2013, 10:35 PM
Almost nailed it Flippy...except they moved him to RT before Adams is gone.

I think Flip was referring to Flozell Adams. But right now our o-line is as scary as the Addams Family

Discipline of Steel
10-03-2013, 10:53 PM
I think Flip was referring to Flozell Adams. But right now our o-line is as scary as the Addams Family

I know...word play. But you are right, this board pretty solidly identified a lack of depth on the OL going into the first game of the season. People were 'terrified' and their fears have come to fruition.

flippy
10-04-2013, 10:27 AM
I think Flip was referring to Flozell Adams. But right now our o-line is as scary as the Addams Family

Thanks. I couldn't even remember wtf I was talking about :)