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JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-27-2011, 10:24 AM
Let's see the list you hope the Steelers have their eyes on. The Small School guys that didn't get a combine invite who the teams hope are the "diamond in the rough" kids in rounds 5-7. Let's see your Top 5 or throw a name out.

David Mims-OT-Virginia Union
Tommie Campbell-S-California (Pa)
Josh Gatlin-CB-North Dakota State
Demario Ballard-WR-Western Oregon
Marc Schiechl-OLB-Colorado School of Mines

steelblood
04-27-2011, 11:08 AM
I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

How about...

Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-27-2011, 11:25 AM
I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

How about...

Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.

Good one. First time I heard the name. Looks like he may have a shot.

Mims isn't a secret anymore and the dam Ravens are extremely interested. He had a hell of a proday.

6' 8" 331, benched 29 times, has 36 7/8 arms with 86 1/2 wing span, ran a 5.32 40, 4.8 20s, 8.1 3 cone, 27" vert, and a 8'6" Broad. That is one big man who can move. 36 7/8" arms and 29 on the bench means this guy has power and pair that with a mean streak...I would love to see him play RT.



http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sle ... n-NFL.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sleeper-tackle-David-Mims-out-to-prove-himself-in-NFL.html)

steelblood
04-27-2011, 11:32 AM
I like Mims. He sounds intriguing.

How about...

Ryan Jones CB NW Missouri ST. 5'11, 197. Runs a 4.42 40. Very good agility and size for the position.

Good one. First time I heard the name. Looks like he may have a shot.

Mims isn't a secret anymore and the dam Ravens are extremely interested. He had a hell of a proday.

6' 8" 331, benched 29 times, has 36 7/8 arms with 86 1/2 wing span, ran a 5.32 40, 4.8 20s, 8.1 3 cone, 27" vert, and a 8'6" Broad. That is one big man who can move. 36 7/8" arms and 29 on the bench means this guy has power and pair that with a mean streak...I would love to see him play RT.



http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sle ... n-NFL.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sleeper-tackle-David-Mims-out-to-prove-himself-in-NFL.html)

The Lions worked out Mims as well. I wonder if he is even on the STeelers' radar.

PSU_dropout43
04-27-2011, 12:50 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

RuthlessBurgher
04-27-2011, 01:43 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

LONGEST ARM
Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4

insanesteelersfan
04-27-2011, 01:46 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

LONGEST ARM
Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4



Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.

RuthlessBurgher
04-27-2011, 01:49 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

LONGEST ARM
Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4



Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.

No...typically arm length is good (except when extraordinarily long arms makes it difficult for you to do many reps of 225 lbs at the combine). Pouncey's arms aren't very short. It was A.Q. Shipley who had the T-Rex arms.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-27-2011, 02:09 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!


That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-27-2011, 02:13 PM
Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!

LONGEST ARM
Pos First Name Last Name School Arm
WR Jeremy Kelley Maine 38 1/2
OT David Mims Virginia Union 36 7/8
DT Jack Hayes Belhaven (MS) 34 7/8
DE Quinton Spears Prairie View A&M 34 7/8
ILB Sidney Tarver Tennessee State 34 7/8
NT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 34 7/8
OT Ben Ijalana Villanova 34 7/8
DT Teryl White North Carolina Central 34 3/4
DE Tom McCarthy Yale 34 3/4
DE Xavier Brown C.W. Post 34 3/4



Does arm length mean that one will fail ? I know Maurkice Pouncey's arms were very short. As were Casey Hamptons when we drafted him.
Arm length is associated with a players abilty to get off blocks, beat jam, basicly keep a player off you. A WR with that wingspan would have a big target radius and if he had good upper body strength, be able to get seperation from jam. I'm, intrigued now by this kid. I will have to do some research.

D Rock
04-27-2011, 02:22 PM
[quote="PSU_dropout43":hq43gixb]Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!


That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM[/quote:hq43gixb]


He's got an 11 minute highlight video on youtube showing him blocking and playing special teams too. He was a part of kick and punt coverage, and appeared to be willing and able. I'd give him a shot late.

Think about it...a 6'5" receiver with arms 3" longer than anyone else, that essentially makes him at least 6'8" in terms of going up for the ball. Add in a 42" vertical and this dude is nearing 7' of functional height when fighting for a ball.

JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
04-27-2011, 02:31 PM
[quote=RuthlessBurgher][quote="PSU_dropout43":4yoa1uuu]Jeremy Kelley - Maine
Height: 6055
Weight: 223
40 Yrd Dash: 4.55*
20 Yrd Dash: 2.62
10 Yrd Dash: 1.47
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 14
Vertical Jump: 42
Broad Jump: 10'11"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 3.89
3-Cone Drill: 6.60
Arm: 38 1/2
Hand: 10 5/8

Dude's 38.5" arm length is sick. Other than Virginia Union OT David Mims (36 7/8"), every other prospect in the draft, at every position, has arms that are less than 35" long...and Kelley's arms are three and a half inches longer than that!!!


That arm length is sick but are those 20s & 3 cone right???? WOW! That lanky frame can change direction that well? I haven't heard of his. Is there character concerns or maybe he has stone hands. DAM[/quote:4yoa1uuu]


He's got an 11 minute highlight video on youtube showing him blocking and playing special teams too. He was a part of kick and punt coverage, and appeared to be willing and able. I'd give him a shot late.

Think about it...a 6'5" receiver with arms 3" longer than anyone else, that essentially makes him at least 6'8" in terms of going up for the ball. Add in a 42" vertical and this dude is nearing 7' of functional height when fighting for a ball.[/quote:4yoa1uuu]

He is definately willing to play ST.

http://www.pressherald.com/sports/seaso ... 11-20.html (http://www.pressherald.com/sports/season-ending-game-offers-chance-to-reflect_2010-11-20.html)
Jeremy Kelley arrived at Maine a touted wide receiver recruit from outside Buffalo, N.Y. After a tough redshirt freshman season, he saw a decreased role on offense every year.

Kelley put an article in his locker about former Black Bear Montell Owens, a standout special teams player for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

It was Kelley's saving grace.

"I remember telling (special teams) Coach (Kevin) Cahill that special teams was the only thing keeping me sane," said Kelley. "When I realized the importance of it, it was empowering. You don't have to have the ball in your hands every play to make an impact."

Kelley will be joined on the field today by his parents. He was estranged from his father until after high school.

He walked down his dad's driveway with newspaper clippings from his high school career, and their relationship took its first step.

Earlier this week it took another. Kelley phoned his father to invite him to his final game at Maine, and he agreed to come. It will be the first time he's seen his son play football.

"It's a good relationship now. I just put it out there," Jeremy Kelley said.

Kelley will pack up and leave campus for good on Sunday. He will do an internship at Yale University, then plans to head to California to train for NFL scouts in the spring. He was contacted on Facebook by track Olympian Maurice Green, who runs a training facility there.

"He told me he thinks he can make me fast," said Kelley, who dreams of a special teams career in the NFL.

focosteeler
04-27-2011, 03:13 PM
Blaine Sumner.... NT out of Colorado School of Mines. 6-2, 335 / 5.2 40 / 33" Vertical / 50 reps 225. Bring him in as. FA, very raw but I want him for the simple fact he could put Hampton AND Starks on his back and squat them. they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs
[youtube:3lkh5cz3]2D38T-0I24s[/youtube:3lkh5cz3]

RuthlessBurgher
04-27-2011, 03:50 PM
they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs

http://www.thearchnemesis.com/images/Vanilla%20Gorilla.jpg

flippy
04-27-2011, 09:11 PM
How bout ALEX COOK, FORT VALLEY STATE?

I've never seen him. Just read he's been super impressive in really limited playing time. Could he be another James Harrison type of find? From the sounds of him he probably won't get drafted.

steelblood
04-28-2011, 10:41 AM
Blaine Sumner.... NT out of Colorado School of Mines. 6-2, 335 / 5.2 40 / 33" Vertical / 50 reps 225. Bring him in as. FA, very raw but I want him for the simple fact he could put Hampton AND Starks on his back and squat them. they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs
[youtube:39xguqa6]2D38T-0I24s[/youtube:39xguqa6]

If that dude can pass a steroid test, I'd take him in the 7th round for sure. He may be a little raw and he definitely gets a little high to early, but he is already strong enough and athletic enough to make the team as a backup NT, I believe. He also shows great instincts and some decent quickness. However, I believe this kid probably put steroids in his captain crunch. His body and workout numbers suggest as much.

focosteeler
04-28-2011, 11:49 AM
Blaine Sumner.... NT out of Colorado School of Mines. 6-2, 335 / 5.2 40 / 33" Vertical / 50 reps 225. Bring him in as. FA, very raw but I want him for the simple fact he could put Hampton AND Starks on his back and squat them. they call him the vanilla gorilla for a reason he holds the american "raw squat" record 905lbs
[youtube:1sgonvi4]2D38T-0I24s[/youtube:1sgonvi4]

If that dude can pass a steroid test, I'd take him in the 7th round for sure. He may be a little raw and he definitely gets a little high to early, but he is already strong enough and athletic enough to make the team as a backup NT, I believe. He also shows great instincts and some decent quickness. However, I believe this kid probably put steroids in his captain crunch. His body and workout numbers suggest as much.

I would agree with you, I know that division II is required to do drug testing and he apparently passed that. His dad was a power lifter and owns a gym, he claims in interviews that he has never touched any kind of drugs