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StarSpangledSteeler
03-13-2011, 04:01 PM
Our current depth chart probably looks something like this...

1st string HB = Mendenhall
2nd string HB = Redman
3rd string HB = Moore (questionable because he does need to be re-signed)
4th string HB = Dwyer

1st string 3rd down back = Redman
2nd string 3rd down back = Moore

1st string FB = Johnson
2nd string FB = Legursky

We were fairly lucky this last year with Mendenhall's durability. Typically your starting RB gets banged up a lot more, especially behind a line like ours. If/when Mendenhall gets hurt next year, how does that effect our offense? In which rounds would it be most reasonable for us to draft depth? What type of RB do we need most?

Pass blocking/blitz pick up is essential in our current offense. Rashard and Redman both showed improvement this year in that area. Dwyer did not (and i believe that's what kept him off the field). Will Dwyer show improvement next year and be able to contribute on 3rd downs? Or is he just a 1st and 2nd down back up HB? A lot of people are calling for a faster change of pace back, and I have to disagree. With our current OL we really don't open the holes necessary to make that effective. We can't just call sweeps on every play and hope he outruns NFL caliber linebackers (ala Willie Parker). Until we improve our OL our best value is with a stronger HB who can break tackles AND pass protect. I think this is where we can draft a replacement for Moore who could also play some special teams (blocking and coverage). Moore's roster spot is very costly in that regard (as of now he's just a back-up HB). I really prefer keeping Redman as our short yardage/3rd down guy, even in the event of a Mendenhall injury. A stronger HB could take over short yardage in the event of a Redman injury. I do not want to run Mendenhall as much this coming year. The kid absorbed a lot of wear and tear and we another fresh legged HB late in the game. (Maybe that could be Dwyer?)

As far as FB goes, who knows what Arians is thinking? I can't reasonably ask to draft an actual FB when I know he's not going to be used. Honestly, plugging in Legursky in those rare short yardage situations is probably our best value at this point. He gets better leverage that most TE's and is fairly mobile. I would love a DJ Williams type TE, lead blocking for Mendenhall and/or slipping into a route on play action, but I don't that Arians will use him "enough" like that to warrant a 2-3 round pick (which could be used on an every down CB, OL, or even DL). I would say we are most likely to draft a "David Johnson upgrade" - a blocking TE who can flex to FB and catch the ball a little if the defense ignores him. We just have too big a need blocking for Mendenhall right now to go for a pass catcher.

hawaiiansteel
03-13-2011, 04:27 PM
As far as FB goes, who knows what Arians is thinking?


"There's no fullback in my offense, there's never going to be one.

http://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/Best-of-the-Burgh-Blogs/Pulling-No-Punches/September-2010/The-Ultimate-Hater-039s-Guide-to-the-Tampa-Bay-Bucs/Tomlin-1.jpg

jj28west
03-13-2011, 06:59 PM
A lot of people will only remember the fumbles but I thought Mendy turned it up to another level during the playoffs. Showed power, speed, cutback vision & incredible endurance to score at the goaline against the Ravens.

The Sodfather
03-14-2011, 08:02 AM
I think anytime after the 4th round they could take a RB if the value is there.

I wouldn't count on Dwyer for anything at this point and I'm thinking Moore won't be back.

Oviedo
03-14-2011, 08:32 AM
I think anytime after the 4th round they could take a RB if the value is there.

I wouldn't count on Dwyer for anything at this point and I'm thinking Moore won't be back.

I think Dwyer will get his shot but I think Tomlin will be inclined to bring Moore back. I would look for a RB no earlier than Round 6 or 7. Two candidates would be Mario Fanin from Auburn or Hynoski from Pitt. Both could be decent third down backs and would provide a power run option.

Chadman
03-14-2011, 08:43 AM
The way Redman was brought into the line-up more last season could indicate that Tomlin wants to incorporate him more. He even was used in passing situations, so Chadman could believe that Redman will in fact be Moore's replacement more than any specialist 3rd down RB they might draft.

That said, it's not beyond belief that the Steelers could bring in a player such as Cadillac Williams to fill that role too...

The Sodfather
03-14-2011, 08:49 AM
Redmen is a 3rd down and our power run option. Dwyer, if he works out, is the same type of back.

Oviedo
03-14-2011, 08:54 AM
Redmen is a 3rd down and our power run option. Dwyer, if he works out, is the same type of back.

That is not a problem. We were very likely not to have Mendy injured last year. That is unlikely to happen every year. You never have enough RBs in today's NFL. Ask the Packers.

The Sodfather
03-14-2011, 09:06 AM
Redmen is a 3rd down and our power run option. Dwyer, if he works out, is the same type of back.

That is not a problem. We were very likely not to have Mendy injured last year. That is unlikely to happen every year. You never have enough RBs in today's NFL. Ask the Packers.


Right

Which is why I said from the 4th round on down we could take a RB if the value is right.

RuthlessBurgher
03-14-2011, 10:49 AM
I'm fine letting Moore walk and going into the season with Mendenhall #1, Redman #2, and Dwyer #3. I would only draft another halfback late, because he likely would be inactive on gameday anyway.

As for a real-life fullback (a pipe dream, I know), I like Stanford ironman Owen Marecic. He could be our starting fullback, a special teams demon, and a backup ILB as well (he started a FB and ILB at Stanford this year...a two-way player in a major conference like the Pac 10 is a big deal).

Oviedo
03-14-2011, 11:03 AM
I'm fine letting Moore walk and going into the season with Mendenhall #1, Redman #2, and Dwyer #3. I would only draft another halfback late, because he likely would be inactive on gameday anyway.

As for a real-life fullback (a pipe dream, I know), I like Stanford ironman Owen Marecic. He could be our starting fullback, a special teams demon, and a backup ILB as well (he started a FB and ILB at Stanford this year...a two-way player in a major conference like the Pac 10 is a big deal).

Marecic is good but I have read some things where his desire to play in the NFL is very questionable. Word is he is a very smart kid who IIRC they said may be looking at something like med school.

If we were to draft that type of player I would lean towards Hynoski.