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steelblood
03-13-2011, 10:42 AM
Taiwan Jones is a RB from Eastern Washington. 6'1 205 lbs. He has excellent lateral agility and speed. He ran from a spread but looks like an exciting 3rd down guy/change of pace man/KR. If he puts on 10 pounds he could be an every down back.

Apparently, the Steelers are bringing him in for a visit. His
tape speaks for itself (as Tomlin would say).

highlights1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYVJ82hmT8g

highlights2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIN6EWo ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIN6EWoPBo&feature=related)

jumping out of pool backwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ohYkAr ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ohYkArJfU&feature=related)

Chadman
03-13-2011, 11:21 AM
Hard to not like what's in the clips. As a mid to late round pick, the Steelers could do far worse.

hawaiiansteel
03-13-2011, 04:43 PM
In 2008, Taiwan Jones broke his fibula. In 2009, he had a variety of injuries ranging from a hip flexor to an injured shoulder. In 2010, he broke his foot during the Eagles' playoff run, missing the final two games of the season.

how is he going to stay healthy in the NFL?

steelblood
03-13-2011, 05:34 PM
Injuries are a concern for taller backs. That is why I don't see him as a full time guy.

However, the last two seasons (Tawain's only as a RB) he has played in 24 games (12 in each season) and rushed for 2900 yards and added 900 yards receiving and returned a lot of kicks (over 1100 return yards). That is crazy production and wear and tear for just two seasons. I don't find it that surprising that he got hurt. He was the whole offense and was overused. Still, to label this kid as injury prone with the beating that he took and the results he produced is a little unfair.

He's certainly worth a mid-to-late round pick if he's still on the board.

jj28west
03-13-2011, 07:14 PM
Im in love. Unfortunately you google him and he seems to be no longer a secret anymore. If that 40 time is 4.4-4.5 the stock will no doubt rise.

As far as wear and tear and being injury prone.....this kid will hopefully not be the main attraction.

Never heard of him until you posted. Thanks for sharing SB.

Oviedo
03-15-2011, 09:52 AM
I don't see him doing any blocking so that will keep him from immediately being a 3rd down back. I would love him as a #2 behind Mendy.

steelblood
03-15-2011, 10:01 AM
I don't see him doing any blocking so that will keep him from immediately being a 3rd down back. I would love him as a #2 behind Mendy.

Since you didn't see him block, he can't be a third down back? Wahh?

ikestops85
03-15-2011, 10:16 AM
I don't see him doing any blocking so that will keep him from immediately being a 3rd down back. I would love him as a #2 behind Mendy.

Since you didn't see him block, he can't be a third down back? Wahh?

Being able to block is a necessity for a 3rd down back. If he can't block he can't be a 3rd down back. So the question is "Can he block?"

Anyway, I hope we don't waste a pick on a RB. I don't think we need to draft one. We have 3 young backs on the team and we can pick up a veteran FA back relatively cheap if we need to.

steelblood
03-15-2011, 10:49 AM
I don't see him doing any blocking so that will keep him from immediately being a 3rd down back. I would love him as a #2 behind Mendy.

Since you didn't see him block, he can't be a third down back? Wahh?

Being able to block is a necessity for a 3rd down back. If he can't block he can't be a 3rd down back. So the question is "Can he block?"

Anyway, I hope we don't waste a pick on a RB. I don't think we need to draft one. We have 3 young backs on the team and we can pick up a veteran FA back relatively cheap if we need to.

Yeah, I was responding to the supposition that he can't block because he wasn't shown blocking in the video.

You can't have to many play-making RBs. Mendenhall is likely to miss significant time in one of the next two seasons. He can't carry the load alone. Moore is a UFA. Redman and Dwyer are battering rams who lack quickness. Like it or not, we'll need another back with quickness for next season.

Chadman
03-15-2011, 11:56 AM
Bring in a Cadillac when FA opens...

ikestops85
03-15-2011, 12:07 PM
Bring in a Cadillac when FA opens...

Exactly!!

RuthlessBurgher
03-15-2011, 12:33 PM
Bring in a Cadillac when FA opens...

Can my Cadillac have Lambo doors? :lol:

http://cadillac.kinyr.com/images/cars2155.jpg

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/svt-cobra-talk/59656d1232668407-lambo-doors-1997-mustang-cobra-lambo-doors-so-played-out.jpg

hawaiiansteel
03-19-2011, 01:41 AM
NFL draft is full of high-impact players with low-level names


By Rob Rang
NFLDraftScout.com
March 15, 2011


No matter where they're turned up, the NFL scouting departments that most consistently find "diamonds in the rough" separate themselves from the rest.

Players with the potential to change teams, and who haven't yet received the attention their physical abilities warrant, are listed below.

Former Alabama QB Greg McElroy ran a 4.84 40 at the combine. (US Presswire) Some played for smaller schools -- where level of competition can be a viable question for scouts to answer -- and others have immense talent but their stocks has been dragged down by durability issues, inconsistent production or simply were misevaluated by the masses.
Each player is a potential draft pick but might not be known by the average NFL fan.

In recent years, I've highlighted several unheralded prospects in this piece that went on to surprise in the NFL. Before NFL fans were learning the names Jared Allen (Idaho State), Joe Flacco (Delaware), Greg Jennings (Western Michigan), Marc Mariani (Montana) and Jimmy Graham (Miami, Fla.) among others, they were listed here as "diamonds in the rough."

One "diamond in the rough" prospect was highlighted each week in my NFL Draft blog. Among them were Hampton defensive tackle Kenrick Ellis, Villanova offensive lineman Ben Ijalana, San Diego State receiver Vincent Brown and Appalachian State safety Mark LeGree. Don't be surprised when each of these prospects gets drafted significantly higher than most others are projecting.

Here are players projected to be second- or third-day picks we believe will prove to be steals. The position list outlines a top "diamond" and four others to watch, including one player at every spot who wasn't one of the 330 players invited to the 2011 Scouting Combine (denoted by asterisk).

Players are listed alphabetically.

Quarterback

• Greg McElroy, Alabama, 6-2, 220, 4.84 -- McElroy was hardly "in the rough" playing for Alabama, but I've been significantly higher on him than most. His fractured hand in the Senior Bowl robbed him of the opportunity to work out for scouts, but expect him to make a team as a very intelligent backup and eventual surprise when pushed into duty.

Others to watch:

Nathan Enderle, Idaho, 6-4, 240, 5.12

Adam Froman, Louisville, 6-4, 220, 4.73*

Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin, 6-2, 212, 4.92

Adam Weber, Minnesota, 6-1, 211, 4.82*

Running Back

• Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington, 6-0, 194, 4.40 (40 time is estimated) -- The rare FCS-level underclassman leaving school early, Jones hasn't been able to work out due to a broken foot, but he'll scoot up draft boards when he does. Jones, a former cornerback, is brittle but he's also the most dynamic open-field runner I've seen this year -- at the FCS or BCS level.

Others to watch:

Graig Cooper, Miami, 5-10, 205, 4.60

Alex Green, Hawaii, 6-0, 225, 4.45

Bilal Powell, Louisville, 5-11, 207, 4.52

Chad Spann, Northern Illinois, 5-08, 199, 4.58*

Tight End

• Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic, 6-5, 248, 4.46 -- Housler's speed caught the eye of scouts at the Combine, but his ability to pluck the ball out of the air impressed those who watched him previously. There are a lot of raw, athletic tight ends in the class, but Housler is my favorite of the bunch.

Others to watch:

Jordan Cameron, Southern Cal, 6-5, 254, 4.56

Daniel Hardy, Idaho, 6-4, 249, 4.77

Andre Smith, Virginia Tech, 6-5, 269, 4.80*

Julius Thomas, Portland State, 6-5, 246, 4.64

Wide Receiver

• Tandon Doss, Indiana, 6-2, 201, 4.55 (40 time is estimated) -- Doss earned second-round to third-round grades from scouts contributing to the NFL Advisory Committee, but is a virtual unknown outside of the Big Ten. Unable to work out at the Combine due to recent groin surgery, he could slip further -- but shouldn't. He's a strong and surprisingly fluid runner after the catch capable of contributing as a receiver and returner.

Others to watch:

Doug Baldwin, Stanford, 5-10, 190, 4.54*

Vincent Brown, San Diego State, 5-11, 187, 4.68

Edmund Gates, Abilene Christian, 6-0, 192, 4.31 4.

Denaryius Moore, Tennessee, 6-0, 194, 4.43

Offensive Line

• Derek Newton, Arkansas State, 6-5, 311, 5.0 -- In the dog days prior to the Combine when Chad Reuter and I are writing up dozens of player evaluations to ensure we have every draft-worthy athlete covered, it is always a boost to discover a player outside the top tier who jumps off the tape. The athletic Newton did that for me while starring at right tackle for the Red Wolves. Newton needs to add some strength, but there is a lot of natural talent here.

Others to watch:

James Brewer, Indiana, 6-6, 323, 5.21

Taylor Boggs, Humboldt State, 6-2, 293, 5.20 (40 time is estimated)

Ben Ijalana, Villanova, 6-4, 317, 5.34 (40 time is estimated)

Willie Smith, East Carolina, 6-5, 310, 5.40

Defensive Line

• Lawrence Guy, Arizona State, 6-4, 305, 4.96 -- A standout in the Pac-10, this junior would be well-known if he played at Southern Cal or Oregon rather than Arizona State. Big, strong and athletic, there are elements to Guy's game and national anonymity that remind me of former Kentucky standout Corey Peters, who emerged as a quality starter for the Falcons after being the 83rd overall pick in last year's draft.

Others to watch:

David Carter, UCLA, 6-5, 297, 4.96*

Ugo Chinasa, Oklahoma State, 6-5, 265, 4.63

Kenrick Ellis, Hampton, 6-5, 346, 5.19

Chris Neild, West Virginia, 6-2, 319, 5.06

Linebacker

• Lawrence Wilson, Connecticut, 6-1, 229, 4.71 -- Wilson is smaller than my ideal linebacker prospect, but his instincts and athleticism make him a very intriguing weak-side 4-3 linebacker in the middle to later rounds. For a smaller guy, he's also pretty tough (having started a school-record 50 games) and plenty productive. He led the Big East with 123 tackles last season.

Others to watch:

Akeem Dent, Georgia, 6-1, 242, 4.78

Jeremiha Hunter, Iowa, 6-1, 239, 4.77

Thomas Keiser, Stanford, 6-5, 244, 4.80 (est)*

K.J. Wright, Mississippi State, 6-3, 246, 4.75

Cornerback • Shareece Wright, Southern Cal, 5-11, 185, 4.41 -- As is the case with Alabama's McElroy, it is a reach to call any Southern Cal prospect a "diamond in the rough," but Wright is a unique story. He didn't see the field consistently while battling injuries and academics, but there is legitimate talent here. Don't be surprised if he is drafted in the middle rounds and ends up an NFL starter. Some close to the USC program say he was the most talented cornerback in the program since Eric Wright.

Others to watch:

Jalil Brown, Colorado, 6-1, 204, 4.52

Korey Lindsey, Southern Illinois, 5-10, 182, 4.52*

Curtis Marsh, Utah State, 6-1, 197, 4.42

Johnny Patrick, Louisville, 5-11, 191, 4.59

Safety

• Mark LeGree, Appalachian State, 6-0, 210, 4.49 -- With 22 career interceptions and a trophy case full of awards, LeGree had to wait until the last minute to get an invitation to the Scouting Combine. Once there, he proved that his production wasn't just due to instincts, but legitimate athleticism. He'll likely be drafted on the third day, but then again, so were past players in this space, such as Colts' Antoine Bethea and the Redskins' Chris Horton.

Others to watch:

Chris Conte, California, 6-2, 197, 4.52

Chris Prosinski, Wyoming, 6-0, 201, 4.42*

Jonathan Nelson, Oklahoma, 5-11, 197, 4.51*

Jerrard Tarrant, Georgia Tech, 6-0, 204, 4.54

Rob Rang is Senior Analyst of NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange. Follow him on Twitter at @RobRang.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/stor ... evel-names (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14816730/nfl-draft-is-full-of-highimpact-players-with-lowlevel-names)

Shawn
03-19-2011, 02:57 AM
There is some talk that Jones is a sub 4.4 guy. Not to mention he plays almost as fast laterally as he does when running straight line. He looks alot like Jamaal Charles...I mean almost exactly like Charles. The injury history gives me pause especially because I suspect he will jump up draft boards on draft day. I believe he could creep up into the high 3rd round. Are the Steelers willing to pay a second for him? I would think not. But, if he is there in the late 3rd I hope they consider him. If he is there in the late 4th it's a solid value.

hawaiiansteel
03-29-2011, 03:52 AM
Small-school speedster Taiwan Jones to work out April 14

Posted by Evan Silva on March 28, 2011

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/taiwan-jones-pic.jpg?w=232


Eastern Washington running back Taiwan Jones will hold an individual Pro Day workout on April 14, a source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT.

Jones had to push back his workout due to foot surgery.

The Pro Day will be held at Los Medanos Junior College in California. 26 teams will be represented, which shows the demand for Jones. He’s a small-school running back working out at a JUCO.

A possible second- to third-round pick, Jones is “rising up draft boards,” according to the source. Jones’ training coach recently informed Yahoo! Sports that the explosive tailback is running ten-yard splits in the 1.4-second range, which would easily be the best ten-yard time in the draft. Ohio State cornerback Chimdi Chekwa paced the field at the Combine with a 1.52 ten-yard split.

Jones’ 7.90 career yards-per-carry average is also by far tops among running backs likely to be drafted in April. He’s drawn comparisons to Brian Westbrook and Jamaal Charles for his home-run speed and versatility.

The main concern for Jones is his durability.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... -april-14/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/28/small-school-speedster-taiwan-jones-to-work-out-april-14/)

jj28west
03-29-2011, 05:37 AM
There is some talk that Jones is a sub 4.4 guy. Not to mention he plays almost as fast laterally as he does when running straight line. He looks alot like Jamaal Charles...I mean almost exactly like Charles. The injury history gives me pause especially because I suspect he will jump up draft boards on draft day. I believe he could creep up into the high 3rd round. Are the Steelers willing to pay a second for him? I would think not. But, if he is there in the late 3rd I hope they consider him. If he is there in the late 4th it's a solid value.

Jamaal was the 1st RB I thought of also for comparison. I have not followed KC so I dont know if Jamaal was a feature back or part of a two back system.

Keep this guy fresh and maybe let him become a specialist of sorts an the durability risk is at least minimized somewhat.

Just seems like an explosive change of pace type runner. I have to admit that I was high on the Tank after watching every youtube vid of him against poor competition. Having said that I think we are talking apples to oranges.

hawaiiansteel
03-29-2011, 08:21 PM
Video - Taiwan Jones fastest man in 2011 draft?

Posted on: March 27, 2011 5:48 pm


The key to running a fast time in the 40-yard dash, trainers say, is to start fast.

If that theory proves true, Eastern Washington running back Taiwan Jones may prove to be the fastest player in the 2011 draft.

Doug Farrar of Yahoo.com recorded a video of Jones practicing the 40-yard dash at the esteemed Athletes Performance. In the video, Jones' coach, Performance Manager Brent Callaway, claims that Jones' 10-yard splits are in the "1.4s." If so, the 6-0, 194 pound running back will have finished the most important quarter of the 40-yard dash faster than anyone tested at the Scouting Combine.

The video shows Callaway coaching Jones on the first 15 yards of the dash. It is Callaway's comments about Jones' starts a little later in the video, however, that will create the biggest stir in the scouting community. At one point he tells Jones he had him at "1.45."

Followng the workout, Farrar asks Callaway the question we'd all like to know -- What's [Jones] been running here?

"Running fast. Running fast," Callaway replies. "We haven't caught him on a full 40 yet, but his first 10 he's been running low 1.4s and that sets him up to run really fast whenever he goes out."

I'll say.

According to sources within the league, the fastest electronically timed 10-yard split run at the 2011 Scouting Combine was by Ohio State's Chimdi Chekwa -- who ran it in 1.52 seconds. Chekwa was electronically timed at 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard dash, only .01 seconds slower than Miami's DeMarcus Van Dyke -- the fastest player at the 2011 Combine. Van Dyke's fastest 10-yard split was 1.58 seconds.*

Jones is training for his Pro Day April 14. A broken bone in his left foot suffered in the playoffs on EWU's run to the national championship kept Jones from working out at the Scouting Combine or Eastern Washington's scheduled Pro Day. Jones, the 2010 Big Sky Co-Offensive Player of the Year, rushed for 1,742 yards and scored 14 touchdowns last season.

He is a player I'm very high on. I believe he's the most electrifying open field runner in this class. He comes with legitimate durability concerns, but his versatility and athleticism could make him an immediate difference-maker in the right offense. NFLDraftScout.com currently rates Jones as a 3rd-4th round pick .

*These electronically-timed results are the ones used by NFL teams and in some cases different than the times reported during The NFL Network and NFL.com's coverage of the Combine. NFL.com credits Van Dyke with a 4.28 second time in the 40-yard dash and has LSU's Patrick Peterson and Maryland's Da'Rel Scott tied for second place in the 40-yard dash at 4.34 seconds. The fastest electronic times, on the other hand, for Peterson and Scott were 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard dash (1.57 in the 10-yard split) and 4.38 and 1.55 seconds, respectively for Scott.

Here is Farrar's video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q60Y5vmz58

Chadman
03-29-2011, 08:41 PM
Gee...interviewing Taiwan.....he's a jeaneeus, isn't he?

:D

hawaiiansteel
04-09-2011, 02:55 AM
Taiwan Jones is scheduled to have his individual Pro Day workout on Thursday, April 14th...


Mike Mayock: "Taiwan Jones might be the fastest player in this draft. If he runs 4.35 or better, theres no way he'll get out of the 3rd round."

http://www.walterfootball.com/pathtothe ... 1_0406.php (http://www.walterfootball.com/pathtothedraft2011_0406.php)

hawaiiansteel
04-10-2011, 02:36 PM
Taiwan Jones Draft Journal 4- April 5

Tuesday, 05 April 2011 04:21

RB TAIWAN JONES, EASTERN WASHINGTON


Dear Journal,

So far I have been training. We have been working on my 40 starts a lot. I have just been timed in the first 10 yards. I haven’t been timed in a full 40 yet. They have been introducing the 3-cone and l-drill. The more I have done them I have become more comfortable.

As far as visits the only team I have visited with is Philadelphia. I met with the running back coach. He taught me their offense to see how I learn and all of that. We met at my high school in my hometown.

I have Miami and Arizona scheduled for visits. There is talk about Carolina and Kansas City setting up visits. The first one is April 18th and the other is April 19th.

I have a dinner with a few teams but I’m not sure which teams they are right now. Some are before and others are after my pro day.

My pro day is April 14th. I will be able to do everything. I get more comfortable with the drills the more I do them. I have a lot of high expectations as far as some of the numbers. I feel like the main thing I will focus on is my 40 and vertical. I have been running a lot of low 1.4s in the 10-yard. I only did the vertical once but I did 40 inches. I am weighing around 200 right now. I’m hoping I will weigh in at least 202. I think 202 will be a good weight for me. Travelle wants me at 205 but we will see.

Right now I believe 27 teams are committed to coming and hoping to get the other five to commit as well.

Talk to you after my private workout!

http://www.jbscouting.com/index.php/int ... 76-tj-dj-4 (http://www.jbscouting.com/index.php/interviews/3-interviews/1676-tj-dj-4)

birtikidis
04-10-2011, 03:18 PM
We used to run that spread draw on third down so much it became cliche. I'd rather see Devine in that role...

birtikidis
04-10-2011, 03:20 PM
Though, I think Jones could offer alot to the screen game... he is intriguing.

hawaiiansteel
04-10-2011, 05:48 PM
Rams to host three draft-eligible running backs this week

Posted by Evan Silva on April 10, 2011


The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports that the Rams will host running back prospects Alex Green (Hawaii), Daniel Thomas (Kansas State), and Stevan Ridley (LSU) for pre-draft visits this week.

The meetings will take place at Rams Park on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Green boasts one of the top career yards-per-carry averages among draft-eligible running backs, his 7.12 mark ranking behind only Taiwan Jones of Eastern Washington (7.90). Green is regarded as a late-round prospect, though his size-speed combination at 6-foot, 225 pounds with a low-4.5 forty time could push him up draft boards.

Thomas has been a favorite of NFL Network’s Mike Mayock throughout the pre-draft process. He’s a late second- to third-round possibility. Thomas has impressive hands for a big man at 6-foot, 230 and ran in the low-4.6s at his April 5 individual Pro Day.

Ridley doesn’t run quite as well as Thomas or Green, but is another big back at 5-foot-11, 225. He’ll probably be drafted in the fourth- to fifth-round range.

The Rams’ interest in powerfully built running backs may indicate concern about starter Steven Jackson’s workload. Jackson has amassed 1,878 career carries, and last year’s 3.76 yards-per-rush average was his worst in seven NFL seasons. He carried the ball 330 times in 2010.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... this-week/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/10/rams-to-host-three-draft-eligible-running-backs-this-week/)