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steelerkeylargo
02-18-2011, 01:12 PM
officially today. Per Jason LaCanfora.

Crash
02-18-2011, 01:24 PM
Okay here's one, say Woodley signs the FP tender today.

Then, when the new CBA is agreed to, they have no franchise or transition tags as part of the agreement with the NFLPA, then what?

Is that "contract" null and void?

plainnasty
02-18-2011, 02:28 PM
Okay here's one, say Woodley signs the FP tender today.

Then, when the new CBA is agreed to, they have no franchise or transition tags as part of the agreement with the NFLPA, then what?

Is that "contract" null and void?
According to DeMaurice Smith it's null and void now.


NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, however, says teams can't exercise the franchise tag until after a new CBA is ratified.

"The current CBA provides that 'each club shall be permitted to designate one of its players who would otherwise be an Unrestricted Free Agent [or Restricted Free Agent] as a Franchise Player each season during the term of this Agreement,' " Smith wrote in a memo to player agents, obtained by ProFootballTalk.com. "The 2011 season is not a 'season during the term of this Agreement' so the NFL has no valid basis for claiming the right to franchise players in 2011."

Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/20 ... z1EKutmm00 (http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-09/nfl-labor-talks/story/franchise-tag-latest-pawn-in-nfl-labor-chess-match#ixzz1EKutmm00)

steelblood
02-18-2011, 02:43 PM
I believe that when a new CBA is negotiated, there will likely be a buffer period before FA begins. Some sort of tag will likely still be available. If not, the Steelers will have a window to hold exclusive negotiations.

hawaiiansteel
02-20-2011, 12:06 AM
Steelers likely keeping enviable status quo at OLB

Mike Wilkening
Senior editor - PFW


With the Steelers placing the franchise tag on LOLB LaMarr Woodley, they will likely retain one of their more important and younger defensive starters. Pittsburgh has apparently given Woodley the non-exclusive franchise tag, which allows another team to sign Woodley to an offer sheet and for the signing team to give the Steelers two first-round picks if they decline to match the offer. Woodley will be guaranteed a salary of 120 percent of his 2010 salary or the average of the top five LB salaries from 2010, whichever is greater.

Woodley, only 26, has quickly become one of the NFL's better outside linebackers playing in a "30" front, and he has been outstanding when the stakes are high, notching at least one sack in all seven career postseason appearances.

Woodley's expected return likely keeps second-year OLB Jason Worilds in a reserve role.

Worilds, who turns 23 in March, notched a pair of sacks as a rookie. He also added 16 tackles (11 solo) on special teams, according to club statistics. The way we hear it, the Steelers are pleased with Worilds' pass-rush ability but would like to see him develop his all-around game, especially his run-defense skills. However, as a club observer notes, the Steelers' defense isn't exactly easy to pick up, and improvement could be in the offing. Note the marked progress DE Ziggy Hood made from Year One to Year Two in the Pittsburgh defense.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/02/18/steelers-likely-keeping-enviable-status-quo-at-olb

papillon
02-20-2011, 07:46 AM
I wonder why the Steelers are potentially going to allow other teams to set the price for Woodley by using the non-exclusive? Do you think if someone makes him an offer the Steelers will simply say okay, we'll take the two first round picks?

Some other food for thought and the Steelers payroll:

Timmons will be starting the final year of his first contract in 2011
Troy will be starting the final year of his previous deal in 2011
Woodley, we know about Woodley

Elder statesmen:

Aaron Smith
Chris Hoke
Farrior
Harrison (sort of)
Hampton
Adams
Ward

Is there enough money to shed to be able to sign Woodley, Troy and Timmons?
Or, do the Steelers take two firsts if someone makes an offer on Woodley and then sign Timmons to the big contract?

I believe that ILB may be more pressing based on the age and depth at the position

It's going to be an interesting off season and a long one as well. I think we're going to see some of our favorite Steelers depart either for retirement or free agency.

Pappy

RuthlessBurgher
02-20-2011, 07:49 PM
The "exclusive" tag is used rarely. Of the 45 guys given the franchise tag over the last 5 seasons, only 7 of them were designated to be exclusive. Since opposing teams are night likely to be willing to surrender 2 first round picks anyway, why bother spending more money on the tag if you don't have to?

An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams.

A "non-exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position in the previous year, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. A non-exclusive franchise player may negotiate with other NFL teams, but if he signs an offer sheet from another team, the original team has a right to match the terms of that offer, or if it does not match the offer and thus loses the player, is entitled to receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

2011 franchise-tagged players

Pittsburgh Steelers - Lamarr Woodley LB (Non-Exclusive)
New England Patriots - Logan Mankins G (Non-Exclusive)
Philadelphia Eagles - Michael Vick QB (Exclusive)
New York Jets - David Harris LB (Non-Exclusive)
San Diego Chargers - Vincent Jackson WR (Non-Exclusive)
Baltimore Ravens - Haloti Ngata DT (Non-Exclusive)
Indianapolis Colts - Peyton Manning QB (Exclusive)
Kansas City Chiefs - Tamba Hali LB (Non-Exclusive)

2010 franchise-tagged players

Pittsburgh Steelers - Jeff Reed K (Non-exclusive)
Green Bay Packers - Ryan Pickett DT (Non-exclusive)
Oakland Raiders - Richard Seymour DE (Exclusive)
San Francisco 49ers - Aubrayo Franklin DT (Non-exclusive)
Seattle Seahawks - Olindo Mare K (Non-exclusive)

2009 franchise-tagged players

Arizona Cardinals - Karlos Dansby OLB (Non-exclusive)
Atlanta Falcons - Michael Koenen P (Non-exclusive)
Baltimore Ravens - Terrell Suggs OLB (Exclusive)
Carolina Panthers - Julius Peppers DE (Non-exclusive)
Cincinnati Bengals - Shayne Graham K (Non-exclusive)
Houston Texans - Dunta Robinson CB (Non-exclusive)
Green Bay Packers - Ryan Pickett NT (Non-exclusive)
New England Patriots - Matt Cassel QB (Non-exclusive)
New York Giants - Brandon Jacobs RB (Non-exclusive)
San Diego Chargers - Darren Sproles RB (Non exclusive)
Seattle Seahawks - Leroy Hill LB (Non-exclusive) (rescinded 4/27/09)
St. Louis Rams - Oshiomogho Atogwe FS (Non-exclusive)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Antonio Bryant WR (Non-exclusive)
Tennessee Titans - Bo Scaife TE (Non-exclusive)

2008 franchise-tagged players

Arizona Cardinals - Karlos Dansby LB (Non-exclusive)
Baltimore Ravens - Terrell Suggs LB (Non-exclusive)
Carolina Panthers - Jordan Gross OL (Non-exclusive)
Cincinnati Bengals - Stacy Andrews OL (Non-exclusive)
Dallas Cowboys - Ken Hamlin SS (Non-exclusive)
Green Bay Packers - Corey Williams DT (Non-exclusive)
Indianapolis Colts - Dallas Clark TE (Non-exclusive)
Kansas City Chiefs - Jared Allen DE (Non-exclusive)
Oakland Raiders - Nnamdi Asomugha CB (Exclusive)
Philadelphia Eagles - L.J. Smith TE (Non-exclusive)
Seattle Seahawks - Marcus Trufant CB (Non-exclusive)
Tennessee Titans - Albert Haynesworth DT (Non-exclusive)

2007 franchise-tagged players

Chicago Bears - Lance Briggs (exclusive)
Cincinnati Bengals - Justin Smith DE (Non-exclusive)
Detroit Lions - Cory Redding DT (Non-exclusive)
Indianapolis Colts - Dwight Freeney DE (Exclusive)
New England Patriots - Asante Samuel CB (Non-exclusive)
New Orleans Saints - Charles Grant DE (Non-exclusive)
Seattle Seahawks - Josh Brown K (Non-exclusive)

papillon
02-20-2011, 11:37 PM
That's all fine well and good, but what if a team offers Woodley a 5o million dollar contract? What do the Steelers do? Match it? if they match it they will have two 50 million dollar LBs and looking at a third LB to be making the same. From what I understand the Steelers have an amount of money that they are willing to spend at each position. I would think that two 50 million dollar LBs would put them over the top of the linebacker amount and they haven't even addressed Timmons.

Then Troy gets thrown into the mix the same year as Timmons.

Will the Steelers be able to afford 3 - 50 million dollar linebackers and a SS probably going to be making similar scratch?

I don't see how they do it and keep their salary structure in place.

Pappy

Crash
02-23-2011, 02:24 PM
Woodley signed his tender.....

hawaiiansteel
02-23-2011, 07:59 PM
Woodley signed his tender.....

yup, you beat me to it... :Cheers


LaMarr Woodley signs, gets huge raise

FEB 23
By James Walker


Pittsburgh Steelers outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley officially signed his franchise tender Wednesday, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports. Although the future of the tag is uncertain, Woodley is due a huge pay raise of approximately $10.2 million in 2011 compared to the $550,000 he made last season.

The Steelers will continue to try and work out a long-term extension with Woodley. Because Woodley is a former second-round pick who didn't make a large salary, neither side could do much because of the 30-percent rule under the current collective bargaining agreement. A new CBA will provide an opportunity for both sides to resume negotiations.

Woodley is one of three AFC North players to receive the franchise tag this offseason. The others are Baltimore Ravens Pro Bowl defensive lineman Haloti Ngata and Cleveland Browns kicker Phil Dawson.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... huge-raise (http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37649/lamarr-woodley-signs-gets-huge-raise)