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hawaiiansteel
02-12-2011, 07:53 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers: Defensive Backs Abundant In Free Agency Market

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Everyone who follows the Pittsburgh Steelers knows that the weak link in their storied defense is the secondary unit, despite it being led by the best safety in football and reigning Defensive Player Of The Year, Troy Polamlau.

Ryan Clark, while aging and found out of position a good deal, is one of the few safeties in the NFL that can handle playing opposite of the wild card, his grasp of the complicated D!ck LeBeau 3-4 scheme is unparalleled, and he’s a great locker room presence.

Ike Taylor is still a top corner in the league, and would garner more recognition if he didn’t have hands of stone. He’s currently a free agent, but there’s little doubt in anyone’s mind that the Steelers won’t negotiate a contract with him, especially due to the depth at cornerback for the team.

Opposite of Taylor there is the tandem of Bryant McFadden and William Gay. McFadden would be best suited in a safety role, where he’d be able to see the ball at all times, as he also found himself getting beat time and time again. The safety transition could be made smoothly, due to his intelligence and natural tackling ability. Gay, may be the best blitzing corner in the NFL, he always finds a way to the quarterback, but found himself getting abused by some pretty average slot receivers this year, playing in the nickel. That problem was only compounded when he was asked to sub for McFadden due to injuries.

It’s imperative that the Steelers make defensive back a priority in the off-season, via free agency and the draft.There’s quite a few big names on the market, and keep an eye out for the Steel Hurtin’ Draft Profiles of prospective Steelers’ picks as well.


1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Raiders

Asomugha is regarded as the second best corner in the NFL, behind New York’s Darrelle Revis, and there’s definitely a case to be made for him as the number one guy. His statistics are in the gutter, because, well, teams just don’t throw to his side of the field. His contract with the Oakland Raiders was voided because of his statistics, showing what little value one should place on numbers in regards to performance.

He wants to play for a Super Bowl contender, which automatically puts some teams out of the race, but it also makes the price tag steeper, because Super Bowl contenders know that they only need a piece or two to get there and win it. The reigning champion Green Bay Packers are the ‘sexy’ signing, because he has ties to Charles Woodson, but that secondary is already very well paid, the New York Jets would be interested, but it would cost them in terms of holes in other portions of their roster, at receiver most notably.

This is, of course a dream signing, because he’s going to be VERY well paid, and the Steelers historically don’t make a big splash in the free agency market. Someone’s going to pay him some big money to isolate number one receivers, unfortunately, it won’t be the Steelers. They aren’t interested in getting in a bidding war, when they’ve performed very well with sub-par corners for much of the last 10 years.

2. Champ Bailey, Denver Broncos

The Broncos want to get younger, and while Bailey is still a top five corner in the NFL, and still fast as a lightning bolt, he’s getting older and may be contemplating a change to safety, which as evidenced by Pittsburgh’s own Rod Woodson, can extend the career of a shutdown cornerback by years.

He’s still very much interested in being a Denver Bronco, and should they express the same interest, you can cross his name off this list. He would be an automatic upgrade at corner, opposite of Ike Taylor, if only a rent-to-own deal, perhaps moving him to free safety once he grasps the defense and once a replacement at corner is found in the 2012 off-season.

3. Johnathan Joseph, Cincinnati Bengals

Joseph has stated that if the Bengals place the franchise tag on him, that he’ll sign it on the first day, but is hoping that they reach a long term deal before that point. But, on the off-chance that the Bengals don’t see that he’s important to their defense, he would make a great 1-2 punch in the Bengals guts.

Along with Leon Hall, he helped lead a Bengals secondary that performed very well in 2010, and regressed in 2011, but the burden of that blame can be placed on the Bengals’ pass rush department, because that’s where coverage starts and stops. They couldn’t get pressure on opposing quarterbacks, and the secondary was left hanging out to dry. He’s a phenomenal athlete, and very, very aggressive, he’s be a great fit in the Pittsburgh defensive scheme.

4. Antonio Cromartie, New York Jets

Cromartie is a great corner in man to man, but sub-par in zone coverage, and also comes with some off-field issues, which the Steelers have addressed with an iron fist (steel curtain?) this past off-season (well, except in the case of Ben Roethlisberger…but that’s another story…) Due to the need at corner though, they may be willing to take a chance on ‘Cro’ as long as they can keep him from threatening Seattle Seahawk’s quarterbacks, and at the very least, he could help the population in Pittsburgh grow by leaps and bounds.

5. Brent Grimes, Atlanta Falcons

Again, the Falcons would be completely brain dead to allow Grimes to walk, after not being drafted, he has turned into one of the better corners in the NFL, and helped rejuvenate a Falcons pass defense that has struggled in past years. He has a nose for the ball, and was among the league leaders in passes defended at the end of the season.

6. Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins

As much as it would make me cringe to have two starting corners that couldn’t catch the plague in Medieval England, Rogers is a solid corner and a leader in the Redskins secondary, he, like Taylor doesn’t get the recognition that he probably deserves due to their inability to make plays on the ball and come down with them.

There are definitely worse starting corners out there, and Pittsburgh got the ‘pleasure’ of seeing two of them this past season.

http://steelhurtin.com/2011/02/12/pittsburgh-steelers-defensive-backs-abundant-in-free-agency-market/

Flasteel
02-12-2011, 09:17 PM
If we go the FA route, I hope it's:
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3. Johnathan Joseph, Cincinnati Bengals

Joseph has stated that if the Bengals place the franchise tag on him, that he’ll sign it on the first day, but is hoping that they reach a long term deal before that point. But, on the off-chance that the Bengals don’t see that he’s important to their defense, he would make a great 1-2 punch in the Bengals guts.

Along with Leon Hall, he helped lead a Bengals secondary that performed very well in 2010, and regressed in 2011, but the burden of that blame can be placed on the Bengals’ pass rush department, because that’s where coverage starts and stops. They couldn’t get pressure on opposing quarterbacks, and the secondary was left hanging out to dry. He’s a phenomenal athlete, and very, very aggressive, he’s be a great fit in the Pittsburgh defensive scheme.

BradshawsHairdresser
02-12-2011, 09:34 PM
C'mon everybody...you don't really expect the Steelers to go after any of these guys (other than our own Ike), do you?

Odds are, they will be content to try to find a CB in the draft (probably second-round or lower), and/or pick up a low-level DB in free agency. If LeBeau stays, the drafted CB will spend most of the first year either on the practice squad, or inactive. The FA DB will mainly be for ST's and depth.

And we'll still be talking about the same problem next year at this time.

Hope I'm wrong, but it's pretty hard to overlook recent history.

hawaiiansteel
02-13-2011, 02:47 PM
Steelers' Ike Taylor ready to cash in?

Sports Xchange LEN PASQUARELLI

Updated Feb 12, 2011


Given their uncanny ability to draft, develop and advance players, the Pittsburgh Steelers rarely lose a veteran for whom they don't have a ready and able replacement. But the AFC champions might be out of luck in supplanting corner Ike Taylor if he departs via free agency.

Taylor's agent, Joel Segal, told The Sports Xchange this week that there have been "zero negotiations" to date and that he expects the eight-year veteran to be "a very hot guy" in free agency.

It could be time to break out of the closet those old, dusty, "I Like Ike" campaign buttons from the 1950s and polish 'em up.

Taylor has some of the poorest hands in the league among cornerbacks, and drops more than his share of would-be interceptions. But coaches, particularly defensive coordinator D!ck LeBeau, regard him highly. He is the closest thing Pittsburgh has to a "shutdown" cornerback and is a terrific fit for the Steelers' system, a guy who is rarely out of position in coverage and plays the run well.

It's hard to say what the Steelers would do without Taylor, who will be an unrestricted free agent no matter the resolution of CBA discussions, and who seems destined to test the open market.

"I've been (in Pittsburgh) my whole career, and I'd like to finish with the Steelers," said Taylor, a fourth-round pick in 2003. "It's my home, and I really don't know anything else. But (stuff) happens, so we'll see."

Taylor signed a five-year, $22.5 million extension just before the start of the 2006 season, but that deal will expire, and it will likely cost the Steelers a lot more to keep him. Despite the success of Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers in last week's title game, Taylor played pretty well in Super Bowl XLV. Rodgers clearly targeted corners Bryant McFadden and William Gay throughout the game. On one of the game's biggest plays, a third-and-10 completion to Greg Jennings up the seam, Taylor had excellent coverage, but Rodgers lofted the ball just over his finger tips.

Director of football operations Kevin Colbert acknowledged last week the Steelers are "definitely behind" on some negotiations because of their appearance in the Super Bowl, but emphasized Taylor is a priority for the club. However the team is expected to use a franchise tag on linebacker LaMarr Woodley, so retaining Taylor could be a stretch.

As of Thursday night there were no discussions planned as the Steelers, like many teams in the league, wait for CBA negotiations to play out.

Pittsburgh has drafted four cornerbacks in four years — Gay (fifth round, 2007), Keenan Lewis (third round, 2009), Joe Burnett (fifth round, 2009) and Crezdon Butler (fifth round, 2010) — and none seems ready enough yet to step in. Gay started 14 games in 2009, but was inadequate enough that the Steelers re-acquired McFadden in a trade. Gay is seen more as a nickel defender than a starter in the "base" defense.

AROUND THE LEAGUE

Corner market: So why might Taylor have a healthy market, even though he has just 11 interceptions in eight seasons, and has only once posted more than two in a campaign? For starters, Taylor is very durable, having missed just one start the past four seasons, and averaged 14.8 starts over the last six years.

And then there is the free agency cornerback class: Nnamdi Asomugha, who voided his contract with the Raiders, is going to cost a ton. Champ Bailey is 32 years old and at some point in the next three or four years will move inside to safety. Ronde Barber is 35 and everyone figures he's headed back to Tampa Bay. Antonio Cromartie is, well, Antonio Cromartie.

At 30 years old, set to turn 31 this spring, Taylor is a viable alternative who is a low-maintenance guy and one who knows how to win.

Two other corners on whom to keep an eye, according to one league pro scout: Carlos Rogers of Washington and Buffalo's Drayton Florence. Said the scout to The Sports Xchange: "(Florence) could be the surprise guy. He just turned 30, he's really pretty mature, and he's become a good player."

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL- ... ers-021111 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-offseason-tip-sheet-Ike-Taylor-Pittsburgh-Steelers-021111)

aggiebones
02-13-2011, 04:38 PM
The first article must have been written by someone knowing nothing about football or the NFL inparticular. Abundance of DBs? That was frankly a useless group for the Steelers. Maybe Joseph. The rest are ridiculous price-wise or old and pointless. Abundance? No, there are essentially NONE on the market.

Its Taylor or craps. Thus he gets a contract or franchised. You will also likely see Gay and McFadden at least til the last cut date whether you like it or not.
Lewis or Butler are the only current options in house an Lebeau doesn't seem to trust either yet.
Do they see something in Lewis? If so, then franchise Taylor for 1 year, then give that job to Lewis. Can Butler supplant McFadden and Gay? Doubtful.
We'll draft a guy, maybe early. We'll see.
Get ready for alot of the same. That's the top defense and possible Super Bowl trip. Such a tough life.

feltdizz
02-14-2011, 09:39 AM
The first article must have been written by someone knowing nothing about football or the NFL inparticular. Abundance of DBs? That was frankly a useless group for the Steelers. Maybe Joseph. The rest are ridiculous price-wise or old and pointless. Abundance? No, there are essentially NONE on the market.

Its Taylor or craps. Thus he gets a contract or franchised. You will also likely see Gay and McFadden at least til the last cut date whether you like it or not.
Lewis or Butler are the only current options in house an Lebeau doesn't seem to trust either yet.
Do they see something in Lewis? If so, then franchise Taylor for 1 year, then give that job to Lewis. Can Butler supplant McFadden and Gay? Doubtful.
We'll draft a guy, maybe early. We'll see.
Get ready for alot of the same. That's the top defense and possible Super Bowl trip. Such a tough life.

:Clap :Clap

You and Bradshaw hit the nail on the head...

we won't change much if any... and we will be a SB contender and complain about the 10 yard cushion and dink and dunks by the elite QB's...

I also think we will see Arians return, complain about the hybrid TE/FB, all while being a SB contender.

life stinks! :lol:

The Sodfather
02-14-2011, 09:52 AM
I would say the fact they were using Madison as the 4th CB instead of Lewis says it all.

I have read/heard they are high on Butler. Who knows what that actually means.

Oviedo
02-14-2011, 11:28 AM
I would say the fact they were using Madison as the 4th CB instead of Lewis says it all.

I have read/heard they are high on Butler. Who knows what that actually means.

I agree. Madison is terrible so that does not speak well of Lewis' future on this team. It's a shame because he seems to have all the physical tools. Hopefully the light goes on.

Now for my obligatory personal rant: They let the wrong CB go when they released Burnett.

aggiebones
02-14-2011, 12:26 PM
Noone else wants Burnett either. And when we drop someone, 5 other vultures immediately go and sniff the carcass. So maybe both are garbage. Who knows? We'll know more on draft day what we are doing.
Taylor is our best and will play better than anyone on the market in our system, outside of maybe Nnamdi. We keep him somehow. We would be in such a bad situation without Taylor. If Taylor is unsignable long term, then I really think we franchise and draft a top CB, even if it means moving up a good bit. Let Taylor go the following year if we must.

Chadman
02-14-2011, 06:20 PM
Carlos Rogers fits the mould of a Steeler CB best of that group. And as potentially the 5th best CB available- might not be in as high demand as you'd expect.

It's a false claim that the Steelers don't sign quality FA's. They just don't sign a lot in one go.

But they OFTEN bring in a decent FA.

Given the struggles of the DB's, it makes sense.

hawaiiansteel
02-16-2011, 07:28 PM
Nnamdi Asomugha just got even tougher to sign

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 16, 2011

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During Al Davis’ recent epic press conference, he explained the difficulties in retaining cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

For the $17 million the Raiders paid Asomugha in 2010, Davis explained, the team could sign 2-3 quality players. Makes sense. So what does Davis do in his first huge post Hue Jackson move of the offseason?

He hands Richard Seymour a possible $30 million over the next two years, including $22 million guaranteed. On a per-year basis, Seymour just became the highest paid defensive player in the league.

The Raiders were undoubtedly in a tough spot and the franchise tag can now be used on Zach Miller. But they still overpaid. We don’t think Seymour gets that type of money at this stage in his career. He’s been very good the last two years, but only occasionally dominating. He turns 32 years old this year. That money is for a MVP-caliber player in his prime.

We mentioned this morning how difficult it will be to keep cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. It just got a lot tougher.

This move could be a tacit admission the Raiders felt it was unlikely to keep Asomugha because Seymour isn’t going to be the highest paid defensive player in the league for long.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... r-to-sign/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/16/nnamdi-asomugha-just-got-even-tougher-to-sign/)

Oviedo
02-16-2011, 08:12 PM
Carlos Rogers fits the mould of a Steeler CB best of that group. And as potentially the 5th best CB available- might not be in as high demand as you'd expect.

It's a false claim that the Steelers don't sign quality FA's. They just don't sign a lot in one go.

But they OFTEN bring in a decent FA.

Given the struggles of the DB's, it makes sense.


Carlos Rogers fits the mold of a Steeler CB

Does that mean he is good at playing 10 yards off the WR and giving up the initiative to the WR?

hawaiiansteel
02-16-2011, 09:21 PM
Report: Jets plan to let Antonio Cromartie walk

Posted by Evan Silva on February 16, 2011

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/antonio-cromartie-pic.jpg?w=157

Appearing on NFL Network’s Total Access program Wednesday night, Mike Lombardi cited multiple sources to report that the Jets are likely to let free agent cornerback Antonio Cromartie walk this offseason.

According to Lombardi, the Jets are more focused on re-signing wide receivers Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards, whose contracts both have expired.

Cromartie likely also didn’t endear himself to Jets management by physically threatening Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck on Twitter after calling Patriots quarterback Tom Brady the NFL, and the NFL Players Association “assh-les” at various points this winter.

One thought that sprung to mind when we heard this report was that the Jets could also be gearing up for a run at free agent cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

According to SI’s Peter King, Asomugha “wants to play elsewhere” in 2011. Asomugha has previously stated — though seemingly jokingly — that he wanted to team up with Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis. Raiders owner Al Davis recently approached Asomugha about the subject.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... rtie-walk/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/16/report-jets-plan-to-let-antonio-cromartie-walk/)

Mister Pittsburgh
02-16-2011, 09:39 PM
Noone else wants Burnett either. And when we drop someone, 5 other vultures immediately go and sniff the carcass. So maybe both are garbage.


:lol: :Clap :lol:

Chadman
02-16-2011, 10:35 PM
Wonder what motivates Asmougha?

If it's money, let him play elsewhere. If it's personal & team achievement...maybe the Steelers should think long & hard about it...

hawaiiansteel
02-22-2011, 11:10 PM
you can remove Champ Bailey's name off the available FA list, but if he was able to get a 4 year contract worth $43 million at this point in his career what will Ike Taylor want?


Broncos agree to four-year contract with Champ Bailey


Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 22, 2011

So much for the theory that players couldn’t score big long-term deals in these uncertain labor times.

The Broncos agreed to a four-year deal with Champ Bailey on Tuesday, according to John Elway’s Twitter account. (Suddenly transparency may seem less exciting to Broncos reporters.)

“We’re fortunate to have Champ with the Broncos for a long time,” Elway wrote. “This is a GREAT day for our entire organization and our fans.”

This is a move that will be extremely popular with Broncos fans and media alike. Bailey, set to turn 33 before next season, was on top of his game in 2010 and is worth huge money. We still question whether this was the right signing for the Broncos organization at this time.

The goal is to win titles. Will Bailey really be worth his salary when the Broncos could possibly be a contender?

Signing aging cornerbacks to big money deals rarely pays off, and it’s not like Bailey is the one piece that will put the Broncos defense over the top. We’ll follow up when we know more about the contract terms.

UPDATE: The initial Bailey numbers are team-friendly. Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports the deal is for four years and $43 million. Bailey will get $11 million guaranteed in the first year and $4 million guaranteed in the second year. If those numbers hold up, Bailey gave up some potential earnings on the open market to get security now.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... mp-bailey/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/broncos-agree-to-four-year-contract-with-champ-bailey/)

RuthlessBurgher
02-23-2011, 01:19 AM
Here's how it breaks down: Bailey will receive a fully guaranteed $11 million salary in 2011, $11 million in 2012, and $10.5 million in both 2013 and 2014.

The first week of the 2011 season will trigger a guarantee worth $4 million for 2012. Bailey's remaining $7 million salary in 2012 will be guaranteed against injury, and it will become fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2012 league year.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_17454037?source=commented-sports

It's basically a guaranteed $11 million for 2011. They can cut him next March if he underperforms in 2011, and he would only count as $4 million worth of dead money against their 2012 cap. Everything after that is entirely un-guaranteed, so the 3rd and 4th years are a sham (and since he'll be in his late 30's at that point, they can dump him with no penalty). Four years and $43 million sounds good for the papers, but it's not reality.

hawaiiansteel
02-23-2011, 03:41 AM
it will be very interesting to see how this turns out...


Steelers face decision on Taylor

By John Harris
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, February 23, 2011


The Steelers have several unrestricted free agents, but cornerback Ike Taylor is likely to attract the most attention from other teams.

A six-year starter, Taylor has never missed a game because of injury. He has started three Super Bowls and is among a handful of corners to have won two Super Bowls as a starter.

The Steelers still control Taylor's rights. They can use the transition tag on Taylor until 12:01 a.m. Friday, when he becomes a full-fledged unrestricted free agent. At that point, Taylor can sign with any team.

Transition tags pay players the average of the top 10 salaries at the position. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer. The transition tag can be used once a year by each club unless it elects to use a franchise tag instead.

It's uncertain if franchise tags and transition tags will be part of the next collective bargaining agreement. That could be why the Steelers designated linebacker LaMarr Woodley as their franchise player last week.

Woodley, according to the current CBA which expires after March 3, is a restricted free agent because he is a four-year veteran; four-year players are considered restricted free agents under the current deal.

If the owners try to declare a negotiating impasse to continue operations as usual under the old deal, they'll want to continue normal business. If the owners are successful in achieving that strategy, the union will want to return to the first years of the collective bargaining agreement and not just the final, uncapped year.

"LaMarr, under the current rules, is a restricted free agent. He and Willie are in the same boat," agent Joe Linta, who represents five-year veteran and free-agent tackle Willie Colon, said before the Steelers gave Woodley the franchise tag. "The Steelers still have rights to tender them under the rules of an uncapped year."

Instead of giving Woodley a tender offer which is normally done for restricted free agents, the Steelers gave him a franchise tag.

Woodley and Colon will become unrestricted free agents if the new CBA honors the rules that were in place prior to the uncapped year.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsbu ... z1ElFhhpKx (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/print_724152.html#ixzz1ElFhhpKx)

The Sodfather
02-23-2011, 07:33 AM
They view themselves, and rightfully so, as SB contenders next season and beyond.

Ike isn't going anywhere and unless he just flat wants to leave. Write it down.

RuthlessBurgher
02-23-2011, 11:10 AM
The Steelers still control Taylor's rights. They can use the transition tag on Taylor until 12:01 a.m. Friday, when he becomes a full-fledged unrestricted free agent. At that point, Taylor can sign with any team.

He can't sign elsewhere without a new CBA in place. John Harris should know this. Yikes.

Oviedo
02-23-2011, 11:22 AM
The Steelers still control Taylor's rights. They can use the transition tag on Taylor until 12:01 a.m. Friday, when he becomes a full-fledged unrestricted free agent. At that point, Taylor can sign with any team.

He can't sign elsewhere without a new CBA in place. John Harris should know this. Yikes.

You are talking about John "Affirmative Action Doesn't Work" Harris. The guy is the worst writer in Pittsburgh. Get a college intern.

hawaiiansteel
03-08-2011, 04:39 PM
CBs and safeties that are still available:


CORNERBACKS

1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders. He's an elite shutdown and all-around corner with the high pricetag to match.

2. Ike Taylor, Steelers. Fearless, physical and savvy: Those are three pretty good attributes for his position.

3. Antonio Cromartie, Jets. He tantalizes with his talent -- especially ball skills -- but rarely lives up to it.

4. Josh Wilson, Rats. The speedster found his niche as a nickel back in Baltimore.

5. Brent Grimes, Falcons. The Pro Bowler makes up for an undersized frame with great leaping ability and ball skills.

6. Johnathan Joseph, Bengals. If not for injuries, he would be only a notch below Asomugha.

7. Richard Marshall, Panthers. He quietly was a consistent playmaker in Carolina.

8. Chris Carr, Rats. Although he started outside, he's better suited as nickel back and return man.

9. Corey Graham, Bears. He's a special teams standout who needs more of a chance to play on defense.

SAFETIES

1. Eric Weddle, Chargers. The Pro Bowler is a solid tackler and a budding playmaker.

2. Donte Whitner, Bills. With the way he tackles vs. the run, it's like having an extra linebacker.

3. Dawan Landry, Rats. While Ed Reed makes the big plays vs. the pass, he has been a solid in-the-box safety.

4. Danieal Manning, Bears. He has good size and covers plenty of ground, and he also can help on kickoff returns.

5. Michael Huff, Raiders. He's a late bloomer who is starting to stuff the stat sheet.

6. Gerald Sensabaugh, Cowboys. He can do a lot of things, but his lapses in coverage in 2010 hurt his market value.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/20 ... z1G0ozK8Go

Shawn
03-08-2011, 07:38 PM
I would say the fact they were using Madison as the 4th CB instead of Lewis says it all.

I have read/heard they are high on Butler. Who knows what that actually means.

I agree. Madison is terrible so that does not speak well of Lewis' future on this team. It's a shame because he seems to have all the physical tools. Hopefully the light goes on.

Now for my obligatory personal rant: They let the wrong CB go when they released Burnett.

I think it important to remember Taylor really struggling early as well. I'm not saying Lewis will be another Taylor but it seems DBs seem to take awhile to develop in our system for whatever reason.

Oviedo
03-08-2011, 07:43 PM
I would say the fact they were using Madison as the 4th CB instead of Lewis says it all.

I have read/heard they are high on Butler. Who knows what that actually means.

I agree. Madison is terrible so that does not speak well of Lewis' future on this team. It's a shame because he seems to have all the physical tools. Hopefully the light goes on.

Now for my obligatory personal rant: They let the wrong CB go when they released Burnett.

I think it important to remember Taylor really struggling early as well. I'm not saying Lewis will be another Taylor but it seems DBs seem to take awhile to develop in our system for whatever reason.

Maybe they struggle early because LeBeau DOESN'T LET THEM PLAY!!!!!! Just a thought :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

ikestops85
03-09-2011, 02:01 PM
Many people forget that Taylor was almost as bad as Gay 2 years ago. He also was horrible in 2006 ... so bad that Cowher benched him.

I know he is our best corner but he is very inconsistent. I'd almost, and I stress the almost, rather take the money allocated for Ike and try and sign one of the decent FAs available.

RuthlessBurgher
03-09-2011, 05:10 PM
Many people forget that Taylor was almost as bad as Gay 2 years ago. He also was horrible in 2006 ... so bad that Cowher benched him.

I know he is our best corner but he is very inconsistent. I'd almost, and I stress the almost, rather take the money allocated for Ike and try and sign one of the decent FAs available.

I wouldn't have guessed that it would be the guy with Ike in his username to state this opinion. :shock: