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JDSteeler
02-12-2011, 11:48 AM
...about the Steelers in SB XLV.

I got the feeling that the team we saw out there was not the team that beat the Ravens, and Jets, not even close.

The one thing that I really have a problem with is the "Non-Existent"-"No Huddle" offense, that Ben really really likes!!!

The Steelers should have come out the locker room, and have had one goal....SCORE A FRIGGIN TD!!!!!!!!!

Apparently, neither the No-Huddle, or the idea of scoring points early was a thought.

ARE you kidding me!!!

The Steelers were moving the ball, at will, at times.

I my diluted mind, the Steelers could have scored 40+pts vs that GB Defense...EASY!!

Something stinks, and I'm pretty sure it's BA, BB, or BOTH!!!!

I feel that I was ripped off!!!!!!!!!!

JD

Crash
02-12-2011, 12:30 PM
I still can't believe after we cut it to 21-17 that we didn't go no huddle when their defense gave up 14 straight.

Would have been a perfect time for it.

Crash
02-12-2011, 12:30 PM
I still can't believe after we cut it to 21-17 that we didn't go no huddle when their defense gave up 14 straight.

Would have been a perfect time for it.

Ozey74
02-12-2011, 02:37 PM
It wasn't Vegas influenced. The sportsbooks to a beating.

Dee Dub
02-12-2011, 03:02 PM
Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 03:10 PM
Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.
Who pi ssed in your corn flakes this morning?

Dee Dub
02-12-2011, 03:15 PM
Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.
Who pi ssed in your corn flakes this morning?

How do you figure? Because I can actually think with my head and not my heart? The majority of Steeler fans want to place blame or immediately think something isnt right because they lost yet the reality of it is in this case, they werent the better and didnt deserve to win. And the Steelers will continue struggling verses the spread offenses until they fix the problem.

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 03:47 PM
[quote="Dee Dub":73tcgm7f]Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.
Who pi ssed in your corn flakes this morning?

How do you figure? Because I can actually think with my head and not my heart? The majority of Steeler fans want to place blame or immediately think something isnt right because they lost yet the reality of it is in this case, they werent the better and didnt deserve to win. And the Steelers will continue struggling verses the spread offenses until they fix the problem.[/quote:73tcgm7f]
Lighten up, Frances, I was joking.

However, I will say...a team with 3 turn-overs and still has a chance to win, in mnay cases, is called the better team.

I hardly ever say this.....but we lost, GB did not beat us.

Now go take a pill and relax. :Cheers

Dee Dub
02-12-2011, 04:02 PM
[quote="Dee Dub":1pct2pbb]Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.
Who pi ssed in your corn flakes this morning?

How do you figure? Because I can actually think with my head and not my heart? The majority of Steeler fans want to place blame or immediately think something isnt right because they lost yet the reality of it is in this case, they werent the better and didnt deserve to win. And the Steelers will continue struggling verses the spread offenses until they fix the problem.
Lighten up, Frances, I was joking.

However, I will say...a team with 3 turn-overs and still has a chance to win, in mnay cases, is called the better team.

I hardly ever say this.....but we lost, GB did not beat us.

Now go take a pill and relax. :Cheers[/quote:1pct2pbb]

No offense here but you are a prime example of a fanactical fan who can't see clearly through their black and gold glasses. Those 3 turnovers were not a result of the Steelers making mistakes. They were because Green Bay forced them. All three of them.

I love the Steelers too and it sucks they lost but it isnt for any other reason than the Packers were a better team.

snarky
02-12-2011, 04:07 PM
IMO, you match those teams up against each other 100 times and the Steelers are going to win a fair number of them. A majority? Maybe not. But the two teams were pretty evenly matched and the game was there for the taking. We didn't win it and there is no comfort in knowing that we could have. Game over and see you next year (or on draft day).

Mister Pittsburgh
02-12-2011, 04:18 PM
The way I see it is we had the better team, but made far too many mistakes to overcome another very good team. Green Bay were no slouches. There was plenty of time on the clock to play to our strengths, which was the run game to be sure, and we were within striking distance to take the game over.....but we had a botched play all around and Mendenhall fumbled. End of story. We lost. If you review the game, Green Bay also had some botched plays with drops and what have you where they could of made us pay even worse. Nelson dropped passes or it would of been worse.

In the end, on the biggest stage, for one period of 60 minutes, Green Bay simply executed more positve plays, both offensively and defensively, bottom line. That is sports. This season was Green Bays, but we have been in 3 Superbowls in the past 7 years. We will be back.

As long as we have Big Ben, and a solid defense, we have a chance against anyone.

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 04:30 PM
The way I see it is we had the better team, but made far too many mistakes to overcome another very good team. Green Bay were no slouches. There was plenty of time on the clock to play to our strengths, which was the run game to be sure, and we were within striking distance to take the game over.....but we had a botched play all around and Mendenhall fumbled. End of story. We lost. If you review the game, Green Bay also had some botched plays with drops and what have you where they could of made us pay even worse. Nelson dropped passes or it would of been worse.

In the end, on the biggest stage, for one period of 60 minutes, Green Bay simply executed more positve plays, both offensively and defensively, bottom line. That is sports. This season was Green Bays, but we have been in 3 Superbowls in the past 7 years. We will be back.

As long as we have Big Ben, and a solid defense, we have a chance against anyone.
Exactly.

And Dee, I am far from the Black and Gold glasses wearing crowd.

You just come off as a douche bag. :lol:

feltdizz
02-12-2011, 05:36 PM
Anytime someone disagrees with Scorekeeper he starts name calling.... 8)

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 05:42 PM
Anytime someone disagrees with Scorekeeper he starts name calling.... 8)

See, here I thought we buried the hatchet and knew we were both fuc king around. I guess you were serious and that makes me wonder if your IQ is above the level of freezing. (that's 32 degrees if you're wondering)

And really, how old are you? You sound about 12 with a hand chapped peter and pi ssed off because mommy forgot to buy your lotion.

steeler_fan_in_t.o.
02-12-2011, 06:23 PM
that's 32 degrees if you're wondering

Or zero if you are talking Celsius. :lol: :stirpot

feltdizz
02-12-2011, 06:27 PM
Anytime someone disagrees with Scorekeeper he starts name calling.... 8)

See, here I thought we buried the hatchet and knew we were both fuc king around. I guess you were serious and that makes me wonder if your IQ is above the level of freezing. (that's 32 degrees if you're wondering)

And really, how old are you? You sound about 12 with a hand chapped peter and pi ssed off because mommy forgot to buy your lotion.

the smiling guy with shades usually makes it obvious it was a joke.

You are one angry dude with a bag full of insults.

..and for future reference... don't ever, EVER, bring up my mother in any of your jokes.

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 06:32 PM
Anytime someone disagrees with Scorekeeper he starts name calling.... 8)

See, here I thought we buried the hatchet and knew we were both fuc king around. I guess you were serious and that makes me wonder if your IQ is above the level of freezing. (that's 32 degrees if you're wondering)

And really, how old are you? You sound about 12 with a hand chapped peter and pi ssed off because mommy forgot to buy your lotion.

the smiling guy with shades usually makes it obvious it was a joke.

You are one angry dude with a bag full of insults.

..and for future reference... don't ever, EVER, bring up my mother in any of your jokes.
Blow it out your as s tough guy. I had a :lol: in my post and you called ME out.

And OMG, IAIT, he used CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ScoreKeeper
02-12-2011, 06:34 PM
that's 32 degrees if you're wondering

Or zero if you are talking Celsius. :lol: :stirpot
:lol: :lol:

He probably thinks Celsius is a new player on WOW.

aggiebones
02-12-2011, 07:55 PM
Let it go guys!! The better team won. The Steelers current personel on defense cannot stop the likes of Green Bay, New England, and New Orleans. The short, quick passing, spread the defense out with 4 and 5 wides is something that even the great LeBeau cannot stop when he doesnt have quality in the secondary.

Had the Steelers faced the Patriots in the playoffs they would have gotten blown out and not even made the Super Bowl. And that means this team wasnt the best team and deserving of winning the Super Bowl. And Green Bay proved it.

Let it go!! Step back and see it for what it really is.


You've been spouting this stuff awhile on here.
GB scored 24 on offense. Hardly some huge number. And the offense set them up a coulpe times too.
GB is good. We were good, but had some attrition. As for why our offense was a bit shady, the OL was in shambles. Ben was clearly physically struggling. And the WRs were a bit outmanned IMO. It was what it was, a close loss where we came back and had a chance to win.
So maybe we do struggle versus some type teams, everyone does.

Jets learned to stop their in division rivals pass-happy offense. Yet, we stomped them into the turf before we went into the turtle for the second half with a huge lead. We just stomped them physically into the ground. So not every defense is perfect.
In my book, you stop a running game and make a team throw underneath all the way down the field. Why? Cause they'll drop passes, they'll throw some picks on deflections, etc. And you'll get some sacks and fumbles.
Running is 'generally' the safer option. But sheet happens. GB gets lucky now of those deflections end up in our arms and Mendy fumbles at a point we were about to take control of the game. Sheet happens. Nothing is guaranteed in the NFL.

feltdizz
02-12-2011, 09:37 PM
Anytime someone disagrees with Scorekeeper he starts name calling.... 8)

See, here I thought we buried the hatchet and knew we were both fuc king around. I guess you were serious and that makes me wonder if your IQ is above the level of freezing. (that's 32 degrees if you're wondering)

And really, how old are you? You sound about 12 with a hand chapped peter and pi ssed off because mommy forgot to buy your lotion.

the smiling guy with shades usually makes it obvious it was a joke.

You are one angry dude with a bag full of insults.

..and for future reference... don't ever, EVER, bring up my mother in any of your jokes.
Blow it out your as s tough guy. I had a :lol: in my post and you called ME out.

And OMG, IAIT, he used CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You throw out a million insults on the internet and call me the tough guy? That's hilarious... :wink:

and for the record I had a 8) in the post where I "called you out"

Dee Dub
02-12-2011, 10:06 PM
...And Dee, I am far from the Black and Gold glasses wearing crowd.

You just come off as a douche bag. :lol:

I'm actually a Christian who has given his life over to God and as a result of it...I am free from the sort of stuff you just showed.

Peace brother. I pray you will get there too one day.

tiproast
02-13-2011, 12:19 PM
Jets learned to stop their in division rivals pass-happy offense.
Patriots are pass-happy?

Compared to who?

The Patriots were 20th in the number of pass attempts. That means that over half the league was more pass-happy than the Patriots.

In 2010, the Patriots pass/run ratio was 507/454.

The Steelers pass/run ratio was 479/471.

It looks like the Steelers were more balanced, but those numbers above include the first four games. The Steelers with Roethlisberger as QB are very similar to the Patriots in terms how often they pass vs. how often they run.

feltdizz
02-13-2011, 01:41 PM
Jets learned to stop their in division rivals pass-happy offense.
Patriots are pass-happy?

Compared to who?

The Patriots were 20th in the number of pass attempts. That means that over half the league was more pass-happy than the Patriots.

In 2010, the Patriots pass/run ratio was 507/454.

The Steelers pass/run ratio was 479/471.

It looks like the Steelers were more balanced, but those numbers above include the first four games. The Steelers with Roethlisberger as QB are very similar to the Patriots in terms how often they pass vs. how often they run.

numbers lie... against us the Patriots passed about 80% of the time.

I'm not sure what the numbers are vs the Jets but I'm sure they are pass heavy.

The NFL is al about match-ups and until we figure out how to stop these pass happy teams we will continue to struggle against them. Sure we had 3 TO's but they all resulted in TD's. This is a problem. If one of those TO's is held to a FG we probably win.

tiproast
02-13-2011, 02:10 PM
numbers lie... against us the Patriots passed about 80% of the time.

That's true - in that game, Brady attempted 43 passes. The Patriots only ran the ball 24 times.

Of course, the Steelers attempted 49 passes, and only ran 16 times.

All teams attack the weakness of the other team, and it's much more difficult to build a good pass defense than it is to build a good run defense. So nearly every team is pass-happy these days.

aggiebones
02-13-2011, 06:45 PM
I don't think that's true. You can allocate your money differently and set a much different defense. But if you stop pass first, you may never see a pass against the Steelers, ala Jets game. If you don't HAVE to throw, you don't.
We TOTALLY eliminated GB from even thinking about running. Not because they didn't want to, but they knew it would not help them at all.
They ran a HUGE risk throwing every down. They were VERY lucky they didn't throw any picks. They were also very lucky we kept giving them the ball.

feltdizz
02-14-2011, 09:01 AM
I don't think that's true. You can allocate your money differently and set a much different defense. But if you stop pass first, you may never see a pass against the Steelers, ala Jets game. If you don't HAVE to throw, you don't.
We TOTALLY eliminated GB from even thinking about running. Not because they didn't want to, but they knew it would not help them at all.
They ran a HUGE risk throwing every down. They were VERY lucky they didn't throw any picks. They were also very lucky we kept giving them the ball.

GB never had a running game. The RB had more yards in the playoffs than in the regular season. I think he ran for 200+ in the playoffs.

Djfan
02-14-2011, 10:39 AM
All teams attack the weakness of the other team...


This has not been Arians habit, actually. He has adjusted a bit lately.