OT: The Sanchize at it again?

[Crash]

As Good Ol' JR would say: Bizness is about to pick up!

http://deadspin.com/5752262/mark-sanche ... d-a-lawyer (http://deadspin.com/5752262/mark-sanchezs-17+year+old-lady-friend-has-found-a-lawyer)

[hawaiiansteel]

17 will get you 20...

[SteelerNation1]

Goodell will give him a stern talking to

[Mister Pittsburgh]

First sex assault allegations as a 19 year old before he was famous and had money, now dating a 17 year old once he has fame and money.

[Crash]

Clear patterns of behavior. Time to suspend him.

[MeetJoeGreene]

Clear patterns of behavior. Time to suspend him.

... dream on.

In the immortal words of Goldie Whoopburg. "Its not RAPE rape".

Nothing will become of this.

[Oviedo]

Goodell will give him a stern talking to

No he will ignore it because he doesn't want to upset Hispanics.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

But will the media run with it?

[Northern_Blitz]

Clear patterns of behavior. Time to suspend him.

... dream on.

In the immortal words of Goldie Whoopburg. "Its not RAPE rape".

Nothing will become of this.

It will be interesting to see what happens here. IIRC, Ben's suspension was not for Rape, or for allegations of Rape. I thought that the suspension was for getting under age girls drunk.

Seems like Sanchez is giving more than alcohol to this girl.

[aggiebones]

It will be interesting.
But this is his first run-in while IN the league. Other issue was in college.

They didn't suspend Holmes until multiple in league events.
Plus, taking so much heat for Ben's deep suspension may actually help Sancheese as he may be a bit more tender on the youngster.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

It will be interesting.
But this is his first run-in while IN the league. Other issue was in college.

They didn't suspend Holmes until multiple in league events.
Plus, taking so much heat for Ben's deep suspension may actually help Sancheese as he may be a bit more tender on the youngster.

I think laws vary by state regarding the age of consent/statutory rape. Is she is below the age, it doesn't matter how "tender on the youngster" Sanchize may have been ... he'll be having more face time with Laurence Taylor than he planned on.

[feltdizz]

The age of consent is the age at which one can legally consent to have sexual relations. The age of consent in New York is 17 years old. (See the NYS Penal Law Art. 130.) On their seventeenth birthdays, young men and women may decide for themselves if they wish to consent to have sexual intercourse or participate in other sexual activity. The day before their birthday, they would be incapable of consenting due to their tender age.

It's still bad publicity...

[ScoreKeeper]

I believe this happened at his house in NJ and the consent age there is 16. However, Ben was suspened for "tarnishing the shield" and this is pretty frigging bad if true.

[hawaiiansteel]

Deadspin takes aim at another Jets quarterback

Posted by Mike Florio on February 5, 2011

In August, the folks at Deadspin first introduced us to the high-tech habits (allegedly) of Brett Favre, via his cockeyed courtship of Jenn Sterger. In October, audio and video evidence emerged, making it a much bigger story than it previously was. (Then again, some didn’t think the story was all that, um, big.)

The evidence was enough to spark an NFL investigation into whether Favre violated the league’s Personal Conduct Policy, even though Sterger never had complained to anyone with the Jets or the NFL about the behavior.

Now, Deadspin promises to publish a story on Tuesday regarding Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez and an alleged relationship with a 17-year-old girl. A.J. Daulerio posted Friday a letter from Richard B. Kendall, a lawyer who represents the girl. Daulerio claims to have photos taken by the girl from the inside of Sanchez’s bedroom. Daulerio also writes that the Jets are aware of the situation, and that the team is preparing a statement.

Under New York and New Jersey law, statutory rape laws apply only when one party to an otherwise consenting relationship is under the age of 17. So if the girl was 17, the law shouldn’t care, the Jets shouldn’t care, and the NFL shouldn’t care. Whether the rest of us should or shouldn’t care is a matter of personal preference, but we have a feeling that most of the e-mails we’ve received pointing out to us the Deadspin report were prompted by folks who have assumed incorrectly that Sanchez now faces potential jail time, if the allegations are true. (On that point, the Deadspin article is silent.)

He doesn’t.

Absent evidence that the girl didn’t consent to anything that may have happened between herself and Sanchez, the guy did nothing legally wrong — and he committed no violation of any league or team policy.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... arterback/ (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/05/deadspin-takes-aim-at-another-jets-quarterback/)

[Crash]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

[ScoreKeeper]

A 24 yo NFL QB having sex with a 17 yo girl who, was probably drinking and probably still in school....if that's not "tarnishing the Shield" then what is?

[grotonsteel]

BADall will do nothing...he has done nothing to Jests...Jests organization is filled with some horny people.

Yesterday in MEtro NYC paper they had a headline which said "Can you cheer for Ben Roethlisberger? Should you? "

I wonder if they will do similar article on Dirty Sanchez :lol:

[aggiebones]

For what?

Just cause you can'tandle more than 1 at a time doesn't mean he can't handle a carload of 'bimbos'

Seems legal. If she claims rape, then we'll be digging a bit deeper.


And by the way, my tender comment was referring to how Goodell would treat Sancheese. I was not referring to Sanch and the young lady.

[feltdizz]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?

[ScoreKeeper]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

[grotonsteel]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..

[feltdizz]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...

[Crash]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..

Yep. Ben was roasted for going into a "college bar".

This is a friggin' HIGH SCHOOL GIRL!

[feltdizz]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..
NYC is like LA... you can be 15 and get into a club if you are with the right crowd.

[Crash]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...

And the law said they didn't have probable cause to arrest Ben and he sat a month anyway.

Goodell has his own law, so he should enforce it on Sanchez as well.

[grotonsteel]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...


I don't think he broke any law but he made a stupid decision. Ben did not break any law but got hammered because of his stupid decision making. Dirty Sanchez need to be booked by BADall.

[feltdizz]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..

Yep. Ben was roasted for going into a "college bar".

This is a friggin' HIGH SCHOOL GIRL!

Ben had a civil suit with his name in it... but who needs facts.

One day before the SB and you are still talking about Ben's off field problems. Are you really a Ben fan? You sure spend a lot of time making sure we don't forget or move on from Ben's past.

[feltdizz]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...


I don't think he broke any law but he made a stupid decision. Ben did not break any law but got hammered because of his stupid decision making. Dirty Sanchez need to be booked by BADall.

There is no accusation of a crime being committed. If she was screaming sexual assault I would agree with you.

It hasn't made the news yet and it probably won't since she isn't accusing him of assault.

[ScoreKeeper]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...
If you can't see the difference between a 20 yo collge woman and a 17 year old child, then there is no reason to even reply to your crap.

You are either playing the act of looking for an argument, or stupid.

Either way you aren't worth the time.

[grotonsteel]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..
NYC is like LA... you can be 15 and get into a club if you are with the right crowd.


Well Sanchez should have avoided those clubs in the first place unless he wants to pick those high school girls. Not all clubs allow 15 yr old whether they are with right crowd or not.

[Crash]

Ben had a civil suit with his name in it... but who needs facts.

You mean the facts that she went out to dinner with Ben the night after he nailed her and bragged about having his baby?

When she is destroyed by her own words by Cornwell you guys are going to be eating a ton of crow.

Sanchez has a sexual assault ARREST on his resume.

Again, who needs facts?

[grotonsteel]

4-6 games please. He was arrested in college for sexualt assault, TMZ showed him last year getting into a Range Rover with a bunch of bimbos and now this.

Sanchez hasn’t learned, he keeps putting himself in risky situations.

A clear pattern of behavior.

Treat him like he did Roethlisberger.

Fair is fair.

College isn't the NFL and getting into a car with chicks isn't a league violation.

Is she accusing him of sexual assault?
She's 17....not a 20 yo with a fake ID. She's 17 years old. 17 is still a child. He's a pedo if this is true.

Not by law he isn't...
If you can't see the difference between a 20 yo collge woman and a 17 year old child, then there is no reason to even reply to your crap.

You are either playing the act of looking for an argument, or stupid.

Either way you aren't worth the time.

[ScoreKeeper]

That girl has a Facebook profile.

According to her she met SAnchez in a club. And Dirty Sanchez sent her a text next day. She was happy that she hooked up with Jets QB.


But WTF is SAnchez doing in a club where 17 years old are allowed. There are many many many clubs in NYC which are strictly 21 and over...I think Dirty Sanchez is a sick pervert who is into highschool girls..
NYC is like LA... you can be 15 and get into a club if you are with the right crowd.


Well Sanchez should have avoided those clubs in the first place unless he wants to pick those high school girls. Not all clubs allow 15 yr old whether they are with right crowd or not.
Don't feed the troll. :Cheers

[Crash]

Well Sanchez should have avoided those clubs in the first place unless he wants to pick those high school girls. Not all clubs allow 15 yr old whether they are with right crowd or not.

Exactly! He made a poor decision AFTER once being arrested for sexual assault.

The law means nothing in Goodell's world. So I expect him to treat a franchise QB playing in the NFL's largest market, the same way he treated Ben Roethlisberger.

[ScoreKeeper]

Wonder if he helped her with her homework after nailing her?

[grotonsteel]

Wonder if he helped her with her homework after nailing her?


:lol: :lol:

[feltdizz]

Well Sanchez should have avoided those clubs in the first place unless he wants to pick those high school girls. Not all clubs allow 15 yr old whether they are with right crowd or not.

Exactly! He made a poor decision AFTER once being arrested for sexual assault.

The law means nothing in Goodell's world. So I expect him to treat a franchise QB playing in the NFL's largest market, the same way he treated Ben Roethlisberger.

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

[Crash]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.

[ScoreKeeper]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.
He'll never get most of that post because it entails knowing whats going on around the league.

Google is now his friend. :lol:

[feltdizz]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.


I simply asked when Sanchez was arrested in the NFL... you keep saying he was arrested but won't tell me when.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Maybe this thread could be moved to the "Around the NFL" forum?

[Crash]

Sanchez, like Ben Roethlisberger, has never been arrested in the NFL.

But Ben sat a month for "patterns of behavior" and "tarnishing the shield".

I'm sorry, but if Sanchez nailed a 17 year old? After his arrest for sexual assault? He needs to sit.

[ScoreKeeper]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.


I simply asked when Sanchez was arrested in the NFL... you keep saying he was arrested but won't tell me when.
OK, have to feed the troll here. Sorry.

Since when did college actions not carry over to the NFL? Marino dropped severly due to a rumor he smoked the green. Many players have dropped rounds due to fighting (the Blout(sp) kid), dope, stealing. All those things carried over to the league but being arrested for sexual assult doesn't?

[Crash]

And one Charles Henry Noll ADMITTED on live radio that drug rumors played a part in the Steelers not drafting Marino.

The NFL also runs background checks on draft prospects. Teams make decisions on players they pick based ON those reports.

Is that not holding them "accountable" for their college actions?

Of course it is.

[feltdizz]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.


I simply asked when Sanchez was arrested in the NFL... you keep saying he was arrested but won't tell me when.
OK, have to feed the troll here. Sorry.

Since when did college actions not carry over to the NFL? Marino dropped severly due to a rumor he smoked the green. Many players have dropped rounds due to fighting (the Blout(sp) kid), dope, stealing. All those things carried over to the league but being arrested for sexual assult doesn't?

OK I have to feed the child :roll:
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm trolling. Grow up.

Anyway.... A players reputation definitely follows them but they enter the NFL with a clean slate. You can't put college violations on their NFL rap sheet and expect the Commish to treat them like they are repeat offenders.

Teams can put clauses in their contracts but that is it....

[Crash]

Btw, the tape showed Vince Young attacking the manager at the club.

He played on.

So much for that excuse.

Guilty as sin based on the tape, he played.

[feltdizz]

And one Charles Henry Noll ADMITTED on live radio that drug rumors played a part in the Steelers not drafting Marino.

The NFL also runs background checks on draft prospects. Teams make decisions on players they pick based ON those reports.

Is that not holding them "accountable" for their college actions?

Of course it is.

I never said a players action in college doesn't hurt their draft order...

I said a players college violations or arrest cannot be used against them if they get in trouble in the NFL. You can't expect the commish to suspend a player for a year because he had 1 DUI in the NFL and 3 in college.

but you can expect the team who drafted him to fine the hell out of him because they probably have a clause in the contract.

[ScoreKeeper]

when was Sanchez arrested in the NFL? Please post a link if you have one.

When was the OL who had sex with his sister arrested in the NFL?

He's basically been blackballed for something he did years ago, no?

When was Ben arrested? He sat a month.

Treat Sanchez the same way.


I simply asked when Sanchez was arrested in the NFL... you keep saying he was arrested but won't tell me when.
OK, have to feed the troll here. Sorry.

Since when did college actions not carry over to the NFL? Marino dropped severly due to a rumor he smoked the green. Many players have dropped rounds due to fighting (the Blout(sp) kid), dope, stealing. All those things carried over to the league but being arrested for sexual assult doesn't?

OK I have to feed the child :roll:
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm trolling. Grow up.

Anyway.... A players reputation definitely follows them but they enter the NFL with a clean slate. You can't put college violations on their NFL rap sheet and expect the Commish to treat them like they are repeat offenders.

Teams can put clauses in their contracts but that is it....
And that reputation is now tarnishing the shield. That's my point. And yes the commish should because it's a pattern of behavior.

And I wish I were a child. Then I might be able to comprehed your views because they are clearly not that of an adult.

Just messing with you man. Have a beer and chill. :Cheers

[feltdizz]

Btw, the tape showed Vince Young attacking the manager at the club.

He played on.

So much for that excuse.

Guilty as sin based on the tape, he played.

guilty of fighting in a strip club... not the same thing. Sorry.

[ScoreKeeper]

Btw, the tape showed Vince Young attacking the manager at the club.

He played on.

So much for that excuse.

Guilty as sin based on the tape, he played.

guilty of fighting in a strip club... not the same thing. Sorry.
Repeated violations of the conduct policey. That's what he got Ben on, in his words.

[feltdizz]

And that reputation is now tarnishing the shield. That's my point. And yes the commish should because it's a pattern of behavior.

what is the pattern since he has been in the NFL?

The slate is clean for every player who enters the NFL.

It's not a pattern of behavior... it's poor behavior to those who think 17 is immoral.
If it gets a ton of press then I would expect a warning from the commish or the team.

If more comes out then sure... but as of now it's Sanchez banging a legal 17 year old.

and no worries... I know we are all anxious for the game. I forgive you. :Cheers

[ScoreKeeper]

And that reputation is now tarnishing the shield. That's my point. And yes the commish should because it's a pattern of behavior.

what is the pattern since he has been in the NFL?

The slate is clean for every player who enters the NFL.

It's not a pattern of behavior... it's poor behavior to those who think 17 is immoral.
If it gets a ton of press then I would expect a warning from the commish or the team.

If more comes out then sure... but as of now it's Sanchez banging a legal 17 year old.

and no worries... I know we are all anxious for the game. I forgive you. :Cheers
The press is starting.........


http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 207f267558 (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1020&bih=574&q=sanchez%2B17+year+old&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=33f631207f267558)

[Crash]

guilty of fighting in a strip club... not the same thing. Sorry.

You are right it's not the same.

VY is guilty.

Whitey Ben was never charged. But he sat a month.

[hawaiiansteel]

maybe they just like watching Walt Disney films together? :P

http://www.emmahasslev.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/SleepingBeauty-Photo1sb_c_2591.jpg

[ScoreKeeper]

maybe they just like watching Walt Disney films together? :P

http://www.emmahasslev.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/SleepingBeauty-Photo1sb_c_2591.jpg
:lol: :lol:

[feltdizz]

And that reputation is now tarnishing the shield. That's my point. And yes the commish should because it's a pattern of behavior.

what is the pattern since he has been in the NFL?

The slate is clean for every player who enters the NFL.

It's not a pattern of behavior... it's poor behavior to those who think 17 is immoral.
If it gets a ton of press then I would expect a warning from the commish or the team.

If more comes out then sure... but as of now it's Sanchez banging a legal 17 year old.

and no worries... I know we are all anxious for the game. I forgive you. :Cheers
The press is starting.........


http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 207f267558 (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1020&bih=574&q=sanchez%2B17+year+old&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=33f631207f267558)

It has to make it to TV. Internet reports and blogs about it aren't enough.

[ALLD]

Rumors have it he wiped a booger on her and did her in the buttocks.

[Crash]

JFC now we have Phil Simms threatening Desmond Howard!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... frm_woah=1 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Phil-Simms-threatens-Desmond-Howard-at-NFL-Exper?urn=nfl-317316&active_dimension=carousel_ept_sports_nfl_experts&ysp_frm_woah=1)

[aggiebones]

OK, enough about the Jets. Let NE fight that battle.

We have a Super Bowl TOMORROW.

Focus people!

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

OK, enough about the Jets. Let NE fight that battle.

We have a Super Bowl TOMORROW.

Focus people!

Please! Thanks for that aggiebones. Guys, please let this board, at least tonight, be about the Steelers winning a Superbowl tomorrow! Why don't you move it to the "Around the NFL" part of the board?

[NJ-STEELER]

wow

there's something wrong with this dude.

he couldn't tell how young this girl was?


http://i53.tinypic.com/apefev.png

[AngryAsian]

Rumors have it he wiped a booger on her and did her in the buttocks.

I think the whole booger wiping thing is considered foreplay. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jigawatts]

"If there's grass on the field, play ball." - Mark Sanchez

[feltdizz]

"The cigarette made her look older" -Mark Sanchez

:lol:

[Mister Pittsburgh]

And that reputation is now tarnishing the shield. That's my point. And yes the commish should because it's a pattern of behavior.

what is the pattern since he has been in the NFL?

The slate is clean for every player who enters the NFL.

It's not a pattern of behavior... it's poor behavior to those who think 17 is immoral.
If it gets a ton of press then I would expect a warning from the commish or the team.

If more comes out then sure... but as of now it's Sanchez banging a legal 17 year old.

and no worries... I know we are all anxious for the game. I forgive you. :Cheers
The press is starting.........


http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp& ... 207f267558 (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&biw=1020&bih=574&q=sanchez%2B17+year+old&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=33f631207f267558)

Not so much as a whisper of it on NFL Network or ESPN.

[Crash]

I wouldn't expect ESPN or NFLN to say anything today.

But if that story hits Deadspin Tuesday they won't ignore it.

[Crash]

Bye Sanchize....patterns of behavior warrant 4 to 6.

At this point, E.K. was OK with the story, just so long as it was clear it didn't come from her. That would be bad for her and bad for the Jets and bad for Mark and bad for the rest of her life.

Why?

She wrote:

Well I'm still "close" w mark and he knows about you so jets pr was like here how's you handle it, I don't want to betray him but I don't want to let him play me like this, if this comes out like I technically sold this then I can risk any jobs or college in the future. They may not want me if I "sold" the story. So publish what you no and ill just be like it was a deceitful friend of mine. You no? So my future isn't ruined but mark doesn't get everything. He is a genuine person but not necessarily good to women. You know?

http://deadspin.com/#!5755011/the-somew ... r+old-girl (http://deadspin.com/#!5755011/the-somewhat-romantic-story-of-mark-sanchez-and-a-17+year+old-girl)

[Crash]

Btw there were reports the Sanchize was flirting with a bartender the same night he allegedly texted his teenager hookup after he lost to the Steelers. More risky behavior for the accused (and once arrested for) sexual assaulter.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

Still no mention of this by anyone mainstream. Think this gets brushed under the rug?

[feltdizz]

Still no mention of this by anyone mainstream. Think this gets brushed under the rug?

unless there is a criminal element to it I think it gets ignored.

6 years isn't that big of a difference and she is "of age"

who cares if Sanchez was also flirting with the bartender or waitress. Where is the criminal act?

[Mister Pittsburgh]

sorry, thought you had to be 18. didn't realize 17 was considered 'adult'.

[feltdizz]

sorry, thought you had to be 18. didn't realize 17 was considered 'adult'.

From my understanding for sexual encounters the age of consent is 17 in NJ and NY.

[The Sodfather]

Btw there were reports the Sanchize was flirting with a bartender the same night he allegedly texted his teenager hookup after he lost to the Steelers. More risky behavior for the accused (and once arrested for) sexual assaulter.


Flirting with a bartender and texting...............

oh the humanity.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Besides a suspension, I think the Jets should be penalized by having to give Darrell Revis to the Steelers.

[Crash]

Btw there were reports the Sanchize was flirting with a bartender the same night he allegedly texted his teenager hookup after he lost to the Steelers. More risky behavior for the accused (and once arrested for) sexual assaulter.


Flirting with a bartender and texting...............

oh the humanity.

Flirting with a fake ID carrying ho.

oh the humanity.

Same thing. Ben sat a month.

Sanchez KNEW she was 17 according to her. Did he give her any booze when he took her home? If he did that's worse than Ben being "responsible" for the DTF crew taking shots of a bar's drink tray while they have over 21 wristbands on their arms.

"Patterns of behavior" is the issue here. Sanchez has a past that includes an arrest for sexual assault. If the NFL finds out that Mark Sanchez gave a minor alcohol? He should sit.

[Ghost]

Still no mention of this by anyone mainstream. Think this gets brushed under the rug?

unless there is a criminal element to it I think it gets ignored.

6 years isn't that big of a difference and she is "of age"

who cares if Sanchez was also flirting with the bartender or waitress. Where is the criminal act?

I really don't understand why anyone is hammering feltdizz. He's 100% correct. There is no charge of assault or misconcuct by the young lady involved. She's of legal age to make decisions regarding consent (she's free to F***) and she clearly gave it. She's no nun candidate. 17 is not that young. And afghanistan is full of men fighting who are 18. Wow... a whole year's difference (or less depending on her birthdate).

Don't get me wrong, I think it's creepy and I have no understanding why one of the most famous athletes in all of NYC can't find a woman between 21 and 45 to bang but there's not a single criminal thing going on in this situation.

[The Sodfather]

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/02/0 ... test=faces (http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/02/09/new-york-jets-quarterback-allegedly-dating-year-old-girl/?test=faces)

It made it's way to Fox News. Yinz happy now?

[The Sodfather]

Btw there were reports the Sanchize was flirting with a bartender the same night he allegedly texted his teenager hookup after he lost to the Steelers. More risky behavior for the accused (and once arrested for) sexual assaulter.


Flirting with a bartender and texting...............

oh the humanity.

Flirting with a fake ID carrying ho.

oh the humanity.

Same thing. Ben sat a month.

Sanchez KNEW she was 17 according to her. Did he give her any booze when he took her home? If he did that's worse than Ben being "responsible" for the DTF crew taking shots of a bar's drink tray while they have over 21 wristbands on their arms.

"Patterns of behavior" is the issue here. Sanchez has a past that includes an arrest for sexual assault. If the NFL finds out that Mark Sanchez gave a minor alcohol? He should sit.

You go get'em Columbo.

[Crash]

Don't get me wrong, I think it's creepy and I have no understanding why one of the most famous athletes in all of NYC can't find a woman between 21 and 45 to bang but there's not a single criminal thing going on in this situation.

Ben was DESTROYED in the media for "trolling college bars".

Sanchez apparently KNEW she was 17. Shouldn't he be held to the same standard?

Like I just said too, if the NFL finds out, that Mark Sanchez provided a minor alcohol in his home? He needs to sit.

[Ghost]

Don't get me wrong, I think it's creepy and I have no understanding why one of the most famous athletes in all of NYC can't find a woman between 21 and 45 to bang but there's not a single criminal thing going on in this situation.

Ben was DESTROYED in the media for "trolling college bars".

Sanchez apparently KNEW she was 17. Shouldn't he be held to the same standard?

Like I just said too, if the NFL finds out, that Mark Sanchez provided a minor alcohol in his home? He needs to sit.

Apples to oranges. You may believe that 17 is too young but by law it is not. And that's what really matters here. She's made no accusations of sexual misconduct or assault.

If Ben had taken a college girl home and afterwards she was happily texting or face booking about it there would have been no suspension.

Look, I think Ben was unfairly suspended and RG has a set of random rules that he arbitrarily applies. Doesn't change the fact that Sanchez has legally not done anything wrong nor even been accussed. If the media wants to harp on his dating below his age, great, I'd agree. Doesn't warrant a suspension though.

[Crash]

What if Sanchez gave her booze KNOWING that she was 17?

[grotonsteel]

Dirty Sanchez banging a 17 yr old..I guess he is into high School girls.........Not sure how many high school girls he has screwed...

BTW why he should not be fined/suspended by Mofo BADall for providing drinks to 17 yr old high school girl in a club??

BTW her father is a big shot in Finance. And lawyers are involved now...It will be interesting...

I think Sanchez needs to be hitting cougars like Aniston and Cox...not 17 years old.... :twisted:

[Ghost]

What if Sanchez gave her booze KNOWING that she was 17?

If that can somehow be proven then that's a differnt story. I have yet to see that. As of now, all you have is 2 consenting adults getting together.

As for everyone callign her a child, that's an opionion. The States of NY and CT have legally stated something different. I may think you should have to be 18 to drive but that doesn't make 16 year old drivers law breakers in states where the age is set at 16.

[Crash]

She's a child. Media were calling Miss DTF "under-aged", and she was 20 for Christ's sake.

Where's the consistency here?

"He is a genuine person but not necessarily good to women. You know?”

-Eliza Kruger

Considering Sanchez's past? That's an "interesting" quote and the NFL needs to look into it.

[feltdizz]

She's a child. Media were calling Miss DTF "under-aged", and she was 20 for Christ's sake.

Where's the consistency here?

"He is a genuine person but not necessarily good to women. You know?”

-Eliza Kruger

Considering Sanchez's past? That's an "interesting" quote and the NFL needs to look into it.

Miss DTF was drunk and accused Ben of sexual assault... she was under the age of 21.

a 17 year old talking about Sanchez not being good to women isn't interesting unless there is a crime committed. She is under the age to drink... if this story has alcohol in it she will be called under aged.

From what you have dug up it sounds like she is a typical manhattan brat who has connections and a rich father.

This would definitely be news if it was Ohio or Tennessee... in NYC a millionaires kid in a bar or club isn't news. I know it sounds wrong but that's the way it is...

[RuthlessBurgher]

He banged her "in a party way" :lol:

[Crash]

From what you have dug up it sounds like she is a typical manhattan brat who has connections and a rich father.

And rumors are that Miss DTF's father is a political big shot and that was partially why DA Bright bashed Ben in the press before he decided to address the no probable cause to arrest him.

Media can't lynch Ben and then hide behind the laws of the land for Sanchez.

Treat them the same.

[ScoreKeeper]

She told him she was 17.

[ScoreKeeper]

Wow... :lol: :lol: :lol:


"He would send me a text at 2 a.m. on a Wednesday asking if I was out that night," she told Deadspin.

"But I'd be, like, I have school tomorrow."

Wonder if he's taking her to prom. :lol:

[ScoreKeeper]

Dirty's bed, where all the action happened. Well, at least he used a brown duvet. :wink:

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2011/02/09/news/photos_stories/sanchez1_03051502--300x300.jpg

[grotonsteel]

Maybe Sanchez can take her to Prom ... :lol:

[fordfixer]

wow

there's something wrong with this dude.

he couldn't tell how young this girl was?


http://i53.tinypic.com/apefev.png



Is it just me or does she look like Marsha Brady to anyone else?

[hawaiiansteel]

Is it just me or does she look like Marsha Brady to anyone else?


yeah, a little bit... :)

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/stylewatch/blog/101004/tom-brady-300x400.jpghttp://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f970b0148c87f04af970c-200wi

[Crash]

"You just gotta be smart about where you're at and who you're with."

-Mark Sanchez on Ben Roethlisberger February 4 2011

[hawaiiansteel]

"You just gotta be smart about where you're at and who you're with."

-Mark Sanchez on Ben Roethlisberger February 4 2011


and that's why Mark Sanchez was so careful about her being at least 17 and legal and did her back at his house instead of at the bar... :wink:

[Crash]

"You just gotta be smart about where you're at and who you're with."

-Mark Sanchez on Ben Roethlisberger February 4 2011


and that's why Mark Sanchez was so careful about her being at least 17 and legal and did her back at his house instead of at the bar... :wink:

And his one time arrest for sexual assault?

And his hummer full of scantily clad bimbos last season?

He hasn't learned a thing. He's reckless, patterns of behavior.

Sit him.

[Crash]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04866.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/09/AR2011020904866.html)

[hawaiiansteel]

And his hummer full of scantily clad bimbos last season?



I'm actually a little jealous of him for having a hummer full of scantily clad bimbos... :P

http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mark-sanchez-hilary-rhoda-gq.jpg

[NJ-STEELER]

She's a child. Media were calling Miss DTF "under-aged", and she was 20 for Christ's sake.

Where's the consistency here?

"He is a genuine person but not necessarily good to women. You know?”

-Eliza Kruger

Considering Sanchez's past? That's an "interesting" quote and the NFL needs to look into it.

Miss DTF was drunk and accused Ben of sexual assault... she was under the age of 21.

a 17 year old talking about Sanchez not being good to women isn't interesting unless there is a crime committed. She is under the age to drink... if this story has alcohol in it she will be called under aged.

From what you have dug up it sounds like she is a typical manhattan brat who has connections and a rich father.

This would definitely be news if it was Ohio or Tennessee... in NYC a millionaires kid in a bar or club isn't news. I know it sounds wrong but that's the way it is...

it was the lead story of the NY stations late news telecasts. one station (FoxNY) caught up to her and tried interviewing her as she walked home from highschool..lol



funny that in mark's home state, the age of consent is 18...so if he had been on the west coast it would have actually been against the law

[Crash]

a 17 year old talking about Sanchez not being good to women isn't interesting unless there is a crime committed.

So what crime did Ben commit?

Anyone? Anyone?

[hawaiiansteel]

Mark Sanchez Is Not Very Smart

By Sean Pendergast, Wed., Feb. 9 2011

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/assets_c/2011/02/marksancez-thumb-200x202.jpg

Who is Eliza Kruger? She is the 17-year-old high school student that hooked up with Sanchez after meeting him at a party on New Year's Eve.

The story is covered in much detail, including direct quotes from Kruger herself, on Deadspin. And to be clear, with 17 being the age for consent in New York (where the club they met is located) and New Jersey (the state in which Sanchez lives), Sanchez wasn't breaking any laws, nor is he if he decides to see Kruger again in the future.

But this is not a post about morality, it's a post about common sense.

To give the broad strokes on the beginning of the "relationship," Sanchez met Kruger at a New Year's Eve party at a 21-and-older club in Manhattan called Lavo. A.J. Daulerio of Deadspin gives a synopsis of their initial conversation:

[Sanchez] was there long enough to chat up our young protagonist. E.K. told me that Sanchez sidled up to her, and the two talked for a while. She gave him her BlackBerry number and flirted a bit. "You know I'm 17, right?" she remembers saying. Sanchez kept his cool. "Well, we can still talk, but I can't see you until you're 18," he said. "Actually," E.K. replied, "17 is legal in New York."

This should have been the point when Mark Sanchez shut things down between him and Kruger, because two things are clear: (1) By raising the "Talk to me when you're 18" angle, Sanchez knows he's treading in uncomfortable territory and (2) more importantly, by showing her intimate knowledge of consent laws, Kruger clearly knows where she's treading (not to mention the fact that she's in a club in Manhattan at age 17).

You can debate the possible motivation of a teenage girl who engaged in a physical relationship with an NFL quarterback and then went to Deadspin to disclose details (Clay Travis posted an excellent piece on Fanhouse on this very topic.). You can bring up her upbringing (her family is loaded), her parents (divorced) and the pitfalls of social media (her Facebook page was command central for letting her friends know that "Mark ****ING Sanchez" was texting her.).

To me, as a sports fan, this just puts Mark Sanchez as the next quarterback in the "Can We Trust Him with the Keys to Our Franchise?" category. It's not Michael Vick running a dog-fighting ring, it's not Ben Roethlisberger allegedly forcing himself on a college coed, it's not Vince Young deciding to pummel a fellow strip club patron because he gave him the "Horns down" hand signal.

In short, it's not anything that's going to get Mark Sanchez suspended.

But if you're Jets ownership and you're asked, "Would you like Mark Sanchez to be having sex with 17-year-old high school students that he meets in Manhattan clubs?" the answer clearly falls in the "HELL NO" bucket. And if the Jets have invested nearly $30 million in guaranteed money in you, you only do things that fall into the "YES" bucket. It's that simple.

If you're the quarterback of the Jets, there are a hundred women of a much more perceptually acceptable age waiting for you at every other corner of the club -- women who probably won't text back "I have school tomorrow" when you see what they're up to on a Wednesday night (This exchange reportedly happened between Kruger and Sanchez.).

Why Eliza Kruger, Mark, other than the fact that she's hot?

Sanchez will get past this quickly, and anyone who thinks this little tryst will follow Sanchez around has never been to Mardi Gras. What do I mean? Well, acts like exposing one's breasts, vomiting and urinating in public, and passing out on a barstool are all arrestable offenses in normal society; however, in New Orleans during Mardi Gras, they're not only accepted, they're practically encouraged.

In the NFL, the New York Jets are Mardi Gras, where the unacceptable elsewhere is considered tolerable or even acceptable behavior.

In the dysfunction Olympics that is the 2010 Jets, Sanchez is at best the bronze medal winner, with Rex Ryan's foot fetish and Antonio Cromartie's struggle to remember the names of all of his offspring easy gold and silver medal winners, respectively. (The good news for Sanchez, as Jets quarterbacks go, is that he's the runaway winner in successful pick-up methods, easily outdistancing the Brett Favre "Cell Phone Weenie Roast" and the Joe Namath "Struggaling Slurapalooza". So he's got that going for him.)

When it comes to stories that feel like tabloid stories, nowadays we love hearing about them, but we're just too lazy to do the follow-up anymore, mostly because we know there will be another story just like this one in the next day or two. Why bother? So Sanchez will be fine....until the next time he decides to do something that falls into the Jets' "HELL NO" bucket.

And if you're the Jets, now you cringe wondering if the next thing will actually carry real consequences. This time it didn't. But Mark Sanchez is only 24, he's got a lot more years.

Hopefully, he realizes he's not 17 anymore.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2011/02/mark_sanchez_is_not_very_smart.php

[feltdizz]

I called it...

well, I called the fact that in NYC it's not uncommon for 15 year olds to be in nightclubs.

This little girls mom likes to party with her. WTF?

I have to agree with Crash and a few others. Now that it's in the news and will hit ESPN, PTI and Around the Horn he needs to be punished. It's his first offense so I don't expect him to miss any games but he this definitely tarnishes the shield.

Crash.. please understand that bimbos in Hummers is a good thing... and his SA charge was at USC so Goodell can't use that against him as a first strike.

[grotonsteel]

Lavo Review by one patron -- I think this is the same Lavo Sanchez visited.


"Bar review: What an absolute **** show. The Russian hookers line up three deep in the front bar. They are joined by Jersey guys, Wall Street douchebags, pimps, sugar daddies, and 50 year old women whose phonies are fringed by fake furs. There was a giant fight in the dinning area while I was there tonight and an hour later a totally trashed guy who wobbled in and crashed into everyone he tried to walk past almost succeeded in getting a bouncer to beat the crap out of him. The crowd here is absolute trash. On the plus side, the drinks are reasonable and the bar service is fast. The waitresses and hostesses are beautiful and seemed to be in a good mood, but it's not enough. Never again."


No wonder Sanchez loved talking/texting to the bar girls... :twisted:

I think he is going to make stupid decision in future and NY media will roast him...

[papillon]

a 17 year old talking about Sanchez not being good to women isn't interesting unless there is a crime committed.

So what crime did Ben commit?

Anyone? Anyone?

He committed no crime except for trying to get a piece of tail first from a psycho in Vegas and then from a college coed in Georgia. Unfortunately, in the second instance the encounter may have occurred in a public venue and then was publicized when the woman involved and her cohorts decided that reporting the incident to the police may be a good idea.

No crime was committed and the Georgia DA has said as much. That's the legal piece of it. Unfortunately, there is another court in this country that does not require any proof, zero, and that is the court of public opinion. Ben lost the case to NFL fans, some Steeler fans and most importantly and unfortunately to Roger Goodell. He's doing everything that is being asked of him to make it right; some will accept it and others won't.

It does no good to try and compare every indiscretion by an NFL player to Ben; each case is different in every way, except in the fact that an NFL player may or may not be being accused of something nefarious.

Let it go, by and large the community on this board is on your side and those stop by just to get you all riled up over this accusation and that accusation are succeeding, don't let them. The majority of the board members love having Ben as the Steeler quarterback and realize that he is the linchpin that makes this team as successful as it has been for the past 7 years.

Don't worry about the things that don't really affect the Steelers and lets focus on those things that do.

Pappy

[Crash]

Crash.. please understand that bimbos in Hummers is a good thing

How so? All it take is one of them who doesn't like how he treated her (again read Ms. Kruger's quote) to call the cops.


and his SA charge was at USC so Goodell can't use that against him as a first strike.

Why not? Goodell pretty much does what he wants.

If the media comes down hard on the Sanchize and they constantly bring up his USC charge and this together? He'll sit.

[feltdizz]

[quote]Crash.. please understand that bimbos in Hummers is a good thing

How so? All it take is one of them who doesn't like how he treated her (again read Ms. Kruger's quote) to call the cops.


and his SA charge was at USC so Goodell can't use that against him as a first strike.

Why not? Goodell pretty much does what he wants.

If the media comes down hard on the Sanchize and they constantly bring up his USC charge and this together? He'll sit.[/quote:q17176xv]

One last time...

until Sanchez is accused of breaking a law as an NFL player it doesn't matter.

USC is not in the NFL. Stop trying to make every football player into Ben.

[Crash]

One last time, with clarity....

If the media hounds Sanchez and they lump the USC charges and this together? Goodell will give in to them, and Sanchez will sit.

Goodell does't care about facts or when things occurred. He's too busy being the morality police.

Jamal Lewis was once suspended by the NFL in 2004, for a drug deal he helped broker on June 23, 2000. He was not an NFL player at the time of the crime committed (He was not under contract) and he still sat didn't he?

You keep trying to use the law, and timelines to support your argument but you fail to grasp one simple detail:

GOODELL DOES NOT CARE! He will do what HE wants.

[RuthlessBurgher]

I highly doubt either of those will be "one last time" posts. Hoping...but doubt it.

[feltdizz]

I highly doubt either of those will be "one last time" posts. Hoping...but doubt it.

I'll do my best... 8)

I apologize for feeding the TMZ tabloid stories.

[Crash]

It's mainstream news now. It's all over local NY news.

[feltdizz]

It's mainstream news now. It's all over local NY news.

hooray!!! what do we win? :?

[Crash]

It's mainstream news now. It's all over local NY news.

hooray!!! what do we win? :?

I'd like for you to address this point below which you seem to want to ignore.

Jamal Lewis was once suspended by the NFL in 2004, for a drug deal he helped broker on June 23, 2000. He was not an NFL player at the time of the crime committed (He was not under contract) and he still sat.

I mean, I know it kills your whole point about why Sanchez wouldn't/shouldn't be suspended, but oh well.

[Queerbaits Friend]

It's mainstream news now. It's all over local NY news.

TeeHee
:moon <---Crash Into Me :teehee: