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flippy
01-28-2011, 03:01 PM
I would blitz Woodley and Harrison extra wide to chase Aaron up into the pocket with delayed blitzes by Farrior/Timmons up the gut all day.

With Rodgers concussion problems, lets run him into our 2 biggest hitters early on.

Maybe we can rattle him a bit.

Oviedo
01-28-2011, 03:24 PM
I'm all for attacking him early and often. I just fear our defensive plan will be to be passive and protect against the pass like we did against the Patriots. We've seen how that works for us.

papillon
01-28-2011, 03:31 PM
The offense and the defense have been very different the past 5 games (last 3 regular season games and 2 playoff games). The Packers aren't going to see the offense and defense from the beginning of the year. Both, Lebeau and Arians, have put in some wrinkles each week that weren't there the week before. This past week Taylor and Gay come on the blitz and the Steelers get the defensive TD late in the first half.

Arians went away from trends on third and short and passed the ball on more then one occasion and on the drive to seal the victory. I'm sure they will have some new things ready for the Packers as well.

The coaching staff has done a good job this entire season.

Pappy

flippy
01-28-2011, 03:31 PM
The difference between the Pats and GB is that GB tries to go downfield to make plays. Totally different attack than the Pats.

Either way, I hope we're aggressive. And stay aggressive in the 2nd half.

papillon
01-28-2011, 04:16 PM
The difference between the Pats and GB is that GB tries to go downfield to make plays. Totally different attack than the Pats.

Either way, I hope we're aggressive. And stay aggressive in the 2nd half.

That's fine by me; going down field takes time, time that Rodgers won't have on a regular basis. That's why the Pats try and go short and hope for YAC. They want to protect Brady from a pass rush they are certain will get there given the time and opportunity.

Pappy

steelsnis
01-28-2011, 04:26 PM
If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Lebeau had something of a philosophical switch after the Pats game this year. Ahh yes, here it is:


How the Partiots loss changed the defense
Score: 212January 5, 2011 1:29 pm


After watching Tom Brady pick the Steelers defense apart in week 10 I have had little faith the Steelers could beat the Patriots in a rematch. The Patriots offensive scheme seems custom built for the Steelers defensive scheme. After reading the article below I am feeling a little better should the Steelers and Patriots meet again this season. Dick LeBeau adjusted the scheme and the pass defense of the Steelers has improved!


by maryrose
Behind The Steel Curtain

Dick LeBeau does not like to get embarrassed, especially on prime time television, but that is exactly what happened on November 14. Tom Brady and the New England Patriots shredded LeBeau's defense like Mexican cheese. LeBeau remembered all too vividly the previous time the Steelers played against Brady. The Patriots came out with a megaphone and yelled to him that they were not going to run the ball and were still going to carve him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. Even with that declaration of being one dimensional, Brady had a field day while the Patriots ran the ball exactly once per quarter.

It is well known that LeBeau runs a deceptive zone blitz defense that prides itself on taking away the run and either applying pressure on the opposing quarterback or, as Lebeau smirkishly admits, falsely giving the "perception of pressure." Another component of LeBeau's scheme is to take away the big play and make the opponent work hard by dinking and dunking a long way to reach success. The theory is that along the way the offense will make a mistake, get sacked or throw an incomplete pass on third down.

There is a price to be paid with this scheme, and that is, you give up the short possession pass. There are two problems with this cost. First, a Hall of Fame quarterback is LeBeau's kryptonite, proven time and time again. Second, the Steelers have an aging defense. Snack, Keisel, Hokey, Ivan, Troy, Deebo, Potsie and Clark are no spring chickens. Keeping them on the field for lengthy periods of time chasing all the dinks and dunks is not a recipe for success over the course of 60 minutes. LeBeau saw that first-hand two weeks prior to the New England game when Drew Brees owned the second half of the Saints game in another Steelers' loss.

After the most recent Brady debacle, the Steelers did some soul-searching and reconfirmed their goals. Winning 10 games against poor-to-good quarterbacks is not one of them. Bringing home Lombardi is the only goal. Therefore, adjustments needed to be made. LeBeau did not change his zone blitz, or pressure/perception of pressure designs. What subtly changed after November 14 were coverage designs. Steelers' cornerbacks now play much closer to the line of scrimmage. Linebackers are now helping much more with short passing lanes. Ryan Clark will often pinch closer also to take away the middle zone, leaving the vulnerability of the long pass.

The results have been interesting to say the least. The Steelers currently rank 12th in the NFL in pass defense, yielding 214 yards per game. This may seem pedestrian, but consider that A) teams cannot run on the Steelers and therefore pass, and B) good quarterbacks have no need to run anyway. Thus, the Steelers have been thrown upon 593 times - only three NFL teams have defended more passes. Ranking 12th in yardage allowed is commendable when you rank 29th in passes defended. Moreover, Pittsburgh ranks first in the league in yards per attempted pass, just 6.3. Not too shabby for a defensive backfield that has been riddled with criticism.

But let's take a closer look at the numbers. Up through the New England game, the Steelers gave up 252 passing yards per game. That number would rank them 29th in the league if it were to continue through today. However, since the Patriots calamity, when LeBeau tightened the screws, the Steelers have given up 169 yards per game, a huge statistical difference. That number would rank them first in the league. The difference between pre and post November 14 is first or 29th; thus they end in the middle at #12.

This is no statistical anomaly based on variances of opposition. The Steelers played all three Division rivals both before and after November 14. The Cincinnati Bengals passed for 218 yards under the "softer" LeBeau and just 156 in the post-New England game. Cleveland threw for 258 yards the first time and only 209 the second time (Many against the second team when the Browns were throwing on every play). Baltimore amassed 250 yards in game one and 226 yards in the sequel. The quarterbacks were the same in all three pairings.

While the price to be paid is the vulnerability to the home run ball, the Steelers have enjoyed significant time-of-possession advantages since November 14, a factor that has benefited the team's defensive gray-beards immensely. Joe Flacco completed passes of 61 and 67 yards in their second matchup, but those two completions accounted for 57 percent of Baltimore's total passing yardage. By minimizing the dinks and dunks, Pittsburgh had commanding control of possession time by nearly 10 minutes. In the first Baltimore game, the Ravens actually led in time-of-possession, perhaps causing a tiring defense to allow the game-winning drive in the last minute. In the second meeting, having been on the field six fewer minutes, the Steelers' defense rose to the occasion and made the play that won the game.

Since LeBeau took his pass defense into the shop on November 15, the Steelers have won the time-of-possession battle in every game. In the first nine games, the Steelers actually trailed in possession time, averaging 30.1 minutes to 30.2 minutes. Post-Brady, the Steelers have changed that number drastically. Pittsburgh has held the ball an average of 35.1 minutes per game, while the opponents have had possession just 26.1 MPG. Adding four and a half more minutes of possession time is a double victory, since opponents get four and a half fewer minutes, creating a nine-minute spread.

Indeed, there has been a major change regarding the positioning of Pittsburgh's defensive backfield. It is not always evident from the television cameras, but I have been to all the home games (and one road game) and the difference is clear and fun to watch. November 14 was Mary Rose's 15th birthday. It might also be remembered as the day that the Steelers lost the battle and won the war.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-28-2011, 05:21 PM
When Hampton comes off the field and we are going nickel....would it make sense at all to put another fast LB in there like a Stevenson Sylvester, or even a Worilds, lines up in the middle of the defense here and there so it would free up either one of those two, or Timmons or Farrior to blitz while not losing anything? Could be a different look, but only if one of those two would be ready to contribute beyond special teams.

I know Worilds was drafted as an OLB but would be a confusing package to have 5 LB's out there floating around.

Crash
01-28-2011, 05:21 PM
If he plays and we play nickel thats when I expect to see Aaron Smith.

Mister Pittsburgh
01-28-2011, 05:35 PM
If he plays and we play nickel thats when I expect to see Aaron Smith.

At this point, I am unsure if a 90% Aaron Smith that hasn't played a down since October is an upgrade over Hood. Hood has been a beast this playoff run.

Crash
01-28-2011, 05:38 PM
On 3rd down passing downs they can take out Casey and put Smith in.

grotonsteel
01-28-2011, 06:52 PM
Blitzing Aaron Rodgers is not going to do the trick. He will move around and make a play.

Hitting Rodgers is the key to victory. Hit him and bring him down.

DukieBoy
01-28-2011, 07:10 PM
We will not play to not lose, we'll play to win.

aggiebones
01-28-2011, 09:03 PM
The blitz's will be random and keep him off kilter. Then when we get to him ONE time, its on. He'll get a bit slower in his reads after one sack, then we'll unleash the cracken.
Might take 1.5 quarters, but once it starts, its gonna be ugly for him.

Scarletfire1970
01-28-2011, 10:19 PM
We won't know if Lebeau's defense really has improved until we face Rodgers. He's the only one I can put on par with Brady and Payton. Sorry but Flacco doesn't cut it. Also, the Rats would have had alot more success passing if their receivers could catch the ball.

Irongut
01-28-2011, 10:23 PM
Lot's of power sets, lots of 2 tight sets, control the clock, get a lead and sit on the lead while blitzing Rodgers into mistakes.

Stewie
01-30-2011, 05:07 PM
I prefer to go out on my shield. Rush 6!!!

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/01/aa ... s-rushers/ (http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/01/aaron-rodgers-playoff-passing-stats-against-pass-rushers/)

AngryAsian
01-30-2011, 07:43 PM
In watch the divisional round and again the NFCCCG, Rodgers has a lot of quick dumps to the slot receiver and/or the TE's... hope Tomlin, LeBeau have seen this and will adjust with some drills for our DL/LB's... those 3 step drops and quick passes could easily be negated with some big paws up in the air to block... so many of those passes are inside and our DB's will not be able to negate them.

pick6
01-30-2011, 09:37 PM
Angry you make a point. Although AR likes to go downfield and he has the weapons to do so. I think that they will try to dink and dunk us to death. Of course, he will take his shots, they will be fewer than what we see against other teams.

It makes me feel better that our DBs have been playing tighter in coverage and Bmac has done much better the last 5 or 6 games.

Ziggy and Casey will get penetration especially early in the game. This will surprise the Packers.

Legursky will hold his own. fat boys will expire under this pressure.

The flat will be wide open all night for Mendy to catch and run.

Start the game using play action. They will be pumped to stop the run after what we did to the Jets.

We need all able bodied offensive lineman dressed. Do not dress A. Smith, we need the personnel. A. Smith can wear his 3rd ring with pride, he is part of this team.