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JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 10:55 AM
...have to STOP RUTFM on FIRST AND SECOND DOWN!!!! Especially
in the RZ!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm perplexed that Tomlin allows Arianus to continue with the INSANITY that
is Arianus's playbook. :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

I'm also frustrated that BEN, and HINES haven't taken Ariauns out behind the
wood-shed, and DEMANDED some friggin changes be made.

I'm not saying that running the ball is not the wrong thing, but the right
thing is NOT to RUTFM on EVERY FRIGGIN RUN PLAY!!!!

Running the ball is about match-ups...how on earth can you run the ball
against 8 or 9-in-the-box in the same A-gap over and over and over, and
expect anything but a 3-yard gain, at best.

One thing that isn't Arianus's fault is how Mendy is hitting the hole. Mendy
has to STOP tip-toeing 50-times before going forward. He needs to make
one cut, and just friggin GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's also gotta do a better job
of either taking it OUTSIDE, or be just a little more patient, so the OL can
open that hole.

But back to Arianus's stupidity...

Arianus has no lead blocker, no pitches, no sweeps, no cut-backs, and
no misdirection. If the offense doesn't present anything new to the
defense, atleast ONCE in the game, how can the offense be succesful??

Tomlin says they aspire to be dominate, and all I see from the play-calling
is nothing short of b!tch-azz!!!!

Wake the "F" up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop playing like B!tches, and start playing like SB Contenders!!!!!!

Score some friggin points, Arianus, and stop worrying about if you have your
run/pass ratio at 50/50....you stinking moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JD

Crash
12-15-2010, 12:04 PM
RUTFM is what Arians was told to do.

He's giving Art II and Yinzer Nation what they wanted.

Oviedo
12-15-2010, 12:16 PM
"Dink and Dunk" will equal TDs

GreggyDigital
12-15-2010, 12:16 PM
...have to STOP RUTFM on FIRST AND SECOND DOWN!!!! Especially
in the RZ!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm perplexed that Tomlin allows Arianus to continue with the INSANITY that
is Arianus's playbook. :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

I'm also frustrated that BEN, and HINES haven't taken Ariauns out behind the
wood-shed, and DEMANDED some friggin changes be made.

I'm not saying that running the ball is not the wrong thing, but the right
thing is NOT to RUTFM on EVERY FRIGGIN RUN PLAY!!!!

Running the ball is about match-ups...how on earth can you run the ball
against 8 or 9-in-the-box in the same A-gap over and over and over, and
expect anything but a 3-yard gain, at best.

One thing that isn't Arianus's fault is how Mendy is hitting the hole. Mendy
has to STOP tip-toeing 50-times before going forward. He needs to make
one cut, and just friggin GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's also gotta do a better job
of either taking it OUTSIDE, or be just a little more patient, so the OL can
open that hole.

But back to Arianus's stupidity...

Arianus has no lead blocker, no pitches, no sweeps, no cut-backs, and
no misdirection. If the offense doesn't present anything new to the
defense, atleast ONCE in the game, how can the offense be succesful??

Tomlin says they aspire to be dominate, and all I see from the play-calling
is nothing short of b!tch-azz!!!!

Wake the "F" up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop playing like B!tches, and start playing like SB Contenders!!!!!!

Score some friggin points, Arianus, and stop worrying about if you have your
run/pass ratio at 50/50....you stinking moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JD

I see the Steelers have been winning so you're still a fan.

How's Ziggy been looking lately?

Dee Dub
12-15-2010, 12:18 PM
...
I'm perplexed that Tomlin allows Arianus to continue with the INSANITY that
is Arianus's playbook. :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

JD

Pssssssst…where you not around when Cowher was the head coach? It was the same then too. It is what ownership wants. The Steelers have to run the ball. It is who they are. And regardless of whether they have the personnel for it or are going to be successful at it, “they must do this” (said in his best Ivan Drago voice).

papillon
12-15-2010, 01:09 PM
Last week's play calling on the 25 first down plays was 13 passes and 12 runs, hardly RUTM every time.

Of the 24 2nd down plays in the game the Steelers ran the ball 9 times and passed 15 times.

I realize this doesn't take into account down, distance or field position, but simply showing that the offensive game plan isn't anything close to RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd and long. The Cincy game was called pretty good for the most part I thought, the players failed to execute more than the play call was bad, IMO.

First down was balanced and 2nd down was heavily tilted towards the pass.

Just sayin...

Pappy

Ghost
12-15-2010, 01:35 PM
19 running plays 5 passing plays. 19 rushes for 25 yards total. - these are the stats for 1st down inside the red zone **

That's not balance and we've all seen what it's gotten them. A ridiculously low anount of TDs.

I don't really care what happens between the 20 - 20. They are going to need to score to make it through the playoffs. And the current formula is failing, and failing badly.







**Blatantly stolen from Crash :D

SanAntonioSteelerFan
12-15-2010, 02:20 PM
Don't fret boys, Ben texted me last week and confirmed they are doing this BS just for the regular season, they are going to blow the doors open in the RZ with the passing game come playoff time.

He asked me to keep this info on the hush, so don't spread it around, OK?

:wink:

birtikidis
12-15-2010, 02:21 PM
RUTFM is what Arians was told to do.

He's giving Art II and Yinzer Nation what they wanted.
No he wasn't.
he was told they had to run it more effectively.
if he's that stupid, to think that it means RUTM, then he doesn't deserve the job.
where did you learn to read?

ANPSTEEL
12-15-2010, 02:32 PM
As I - and many others- have said previously, it is not so much about play selection - as it is the personel package and formation.

This has improved over recent weeks- but - the general trend would suggest that apx 75% of the time when we see a particular package / formation- each of us can identify what play(s) are about to be run.

The frustration that I / we have- is that Arians doesn't maximize his personnel by motioning out of tendencies with the existing personnel- he just switches the personnel group- giving away his "plan".

I know I say this all of the time- and I am going to say it again- and probably again-

Why the eff we don't see Mendy and Redman in the same backfield more often??

You can put Ben under center- motion Heath inside- go Power O..

Motion Mendy outside- Ben shifting to shot gun- Keeping Redman- and Heath in for protection- letting Heath release under/middle & redman release in the flat-

I'll continue to :HeadBanger

as to why we don't see this more.

Heck- Ben could go no huddle with this- it would be deadly-

particularly once Sanders/Brown are up fully up to speed. Wallace/Sanders/Heath-or Johnson

Mendy/Redman

Shift in and out of tendencies against whatever package the D has on the field- including the redzone.

birtikidis
12-15-2010, 02:36 PM
I was surprised, especially after the late hit that aggravated Ben's foot, that we didn't see more pony backfields. oh wait, why was i surprised! BA does not change his gameplan.. Ben went in relatively healthy so when he gets hurt.... fight on!

Oviedo
12-15-2010, 02:39 PM
RUTFM is what Arians was told to do.

He's giving Art II and Yinzer Nation what they wanted.
No he wasn't.
he was told they had to run it more effectively.
if he's that stupid, to think that it means RUTM, then he doesn't deserve the job.
where did you learn to read?

I agree that the offense is struggling but it isn't a RUTM that is the issue because when they try to run wide the DL penetrates and the RB never gets to the edge. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.

feltdizz
12-15-2010, 02:44 PM
Last week's play calling on the 25 first down plays was 13 passes and 12 runs, hardly RUTM every time.

Of the 24 2nd down plays in the game the Steelers ran the ball 9 times and passed 15 times.

I realize this doesn't take into account down, distance or field position, but simply showing that the offensive game plan isn't anything close to RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd and long. The Cincy game was called pretty good for the most part I thought, the players failed to execute more than the play call was bad, IMO.

First down was balanced and 2nd down was heavily tilted towards the pass.

Just sayin...

Pappy

shhhh... don't use facts, let them continue to be the geniuses they are. :wink:

..and Ben is hurt every freaking year.... it's the reason so many fans swing from his nuts like Tarzan. He is setting up the perfect NFL story and you guys are falling for it. 8)

birtikidis
12-15-2010, 02:48 PM
RUTFM is what Arians was told to do.

He's giving Art II and Yinzer Nation what they wanted.
No he wasn't.
he was told they had to run it more effectively.
if he's that stupid, to think that it means RUTM, then he doesn't deserve the job.
where did you learn to read?

I agree that the offense is struggling but it isn't a RUTM that is the issue because when they try to run wide the DL penetrates and the RB never gets to the edge. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.
I agree, I just don't see ANY adjustements made by our offensive coordinator. He's determined to run the offense his way. everything be damned.

feltdizz
12-15-2010, 03:13 PM
RUTFM is what Arians was told to do.

He's giving Art II and Yinzer Nation what they wanted.
No he wasn't.
he was told they had to run it more effectively.
if he's that stupid, to think that it means RUTM, then he doesn't deserve the job.
where did you learn to read?

I agree that the offense is struggling but it isn't a RUTM that is the issue because when they try to run wide the DL penetrates and the RB never gets to the edge. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.
I agree, I just don't see ANY adjustements made by our offensive coordinator. He's determined to run the offense his way. everything be damned.

Really? You didn't see any changes made the last 2 games? The pistol, screens to Wallace, 3 step drops, Randle El wildcat, short passes to Wallace, Hines, Spaeth(dropped) and Brown...

This is the problem I have with the bashing of Arians... he says he won't make changes, what coach in their right mind would tell the other teams he plans on making changes I do not know but anyways...

he makes adjustments, we still fail to execute and the OL is holding on every damn play... but since the result is the same surely we didn't do anything different.

Pappy just blew a hole in the 1st and 2nd down run/pass ratio but people are so sure they know what the heck they are talking about they won't even admit changes are being made. Our O just stinks right now and it's mostly due to the OL and probably our QB who has an Eddie Monster club foot and a broken nose.

birtikidis
12-15-2010, 03:21 PM
we ran 1 wildcat play. that's not much of an adjustment.
we run short passes all the time. bubble screen after bubble screen.
we ran the pistol in one game. Ben was hurt so we ran it. Ben reinjures foot, we don't see it. that is what i mean by an adjustment.

JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 09:13 PM
...have to STOP RUTFM on FIRST AND SECOND DOWN!!!! Especially
in the RZ!!!!! Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm perplexed that Tomlin allows Arianus to continue with the INSANITY that
is Arianus's playbook. :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

I'm also frustrated that BEN, and HINES haven't taken Ariauns out behind the
wood-shed, and DEMANDED some friggin changes be made.

I'm not saying that running the ball is not the wrong thing, but the right
thing is NOT to RUTFM on EVERY FRIGGIN RUN PLAY!!!!

Running the ball is about match-ups...how on earth can you run the ball
against 8 or 9-in-the-box in the same A-gap over and over and over, and
expect anything but a 3-yard gain, at best.

One thing that isn't Arianus's fault is how Mendy is hitting the hole. Mendy
has to STOP tip-toeing 50-times before going forward. He needs to make
one cut, and just friggin GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's also gotta do a better job
of either taking it OUTSIDE, or be just a little more patient, so the OL can
open that hole.

But back to Arianus's stupidity...

Arianus has no lead blocker, no pitches, no sweeps, no cut-backs, and
no misdirection. If the offense doesn't present anything new to the
defense, atleast ONCE in the game, how can the offense be succesful??

Tomlin says they aspire to be dominate, and all I see from the play-calling
is nothing short of b!tch-azz!!!!

Wake the "F" up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop playing like B!tches, and start playing like SB Contenders!!!!!!

Score some friggin points, Arianus, and stop worrying about if you have your
run/pass ratio at 50/50....you stinking moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JD

I see the Steelers have been winning so you're still a fan.

How's Ziggy been looking lately?


Yep, still a fan, digit.... :roll: :roll:

When the Steelers lose, I jump on the Pats* bandwagon... :tt1 :tt1

And I will give credit where credit is due...the Steelers run defense is cracking
skulls, and the TEAM is playing great vs the run.

Ziggy, is solid.

JD

JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 09:23 PM
...
I'm perplexed that Tomlin allows Arianus to continue with the INSANITY that
is Arianus's playbook. :HeadBanger :HeadBanger :HeadBanger

JD

Pssssssst…where you not around when Cowher was the head coach? It was the same then too. It is what ownership wants. The Steelers have to run the ball. It is who they are. And regardless of whether they have the personnel for it or are going to be successful at it, “they must do this” (said in his best Ivan Drago voice).



No, Dee-Drub, I wasn't around when Cowher was the head coach... :roll: :roll:

You remind me of the guy who always "Repeats" what somebody has already said...

Whose hand do you hold on the board....??? You always follow the Digit.. :loser

But I don't remember the RUTFM all game long...and if they called it all game long,
atleast JB got more than 3-yards...he's built for that style. Mendy is better bouncing
it outside, IMHO.

JD

JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 09:41 PM
Last week's play calling on the 25 first down plays was 13 passes and 12 runs, hardly RUTM every time.

Of the 24 2nd down plays in the game the Steelers ran the ball 9 times and passed 15 times.

I realize this doesn't take into account down, distance or field position, but simply showing that the offensive game plan isn't anything close to RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd and long. The Cincy game was called pretty good for the most part I thought, the players failed to execute more than the play call was bad, IMO.

First down was balanced and 2nd down was heavily tilted towards the pass.

Just sayin...

Pappy

Pappy, you may wanna go back and re-read the original post....

I specifically said that Arianus calls the RUTFM on FIRST, and SECOND down.

He calls it between the 20's and inside the RZ.

I stand corrected!!!

Arians actually calls it on THIRD AND FOURTH down also...

Let me spell this out for you and the rest of the individuals who just don't GET IT!!

ARIANUS HAS ONE-RUNNING PLAY IN THE "PLAYBOOK OF GREATNESS".....CAN YOU
GUESS WHAT THAT IS????????????????????

Let me spell it out...(R) run (U) up (T) the (F) friggin (M) middle!!!!!!!!

THAT'S IT!!!!!

The Defense's know what's coming and where!!!!

"A" GAP!!!!

WOW!!!! What a genius Arianus is!!! What a suprise play-call!!!! The defense
would be so confused!!! It's not like they haven't seen it on TAPE or anything!!!

My point is whether he calls a run play 68% of the time on 1st-down, and 32% of the time on 2nd down, is inconsequential...It's the fact that he NEVER changes the run
play itself, and create some better opportunites.

Pappy...I like your posts, but geez bro, you really whiffed on this one!!!

Try to do better next time, huh?

Just sayin...

JD

JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 09:44 PM
19 running plays 5 passing plays. 19 rushes for 25 yards total. - these are the stats for 1st down inside the red zone **

That's not balance and we've all seen what it's gotten them. A ridiculously low anount of TDs.

I don't really care what happens between the 20 - 20. They are going to need to score to make it through the playoffs. And the current formula is failing, and failing badly.



Thank You, Ghost...well stated!!

You get it!!

JD






**Blatantly stolen from Crash :D

JDSteeler
12-15-2010, 09:45 PM
As I - and many others- have said previously, it is not so much about play selection - as it is the personel package and formation.

This has improved over recent weeks- but - the general trend would suggest that apx 75% of the time when we see a particular package / formation- each of us can identify what play(s) are about to be run.

The frustration that I / we have- is that Arians doesn't maximize his personnel by motioning out of tendencies with the existing personnel- he just switches the personnel group- giving away his "plan".

I know I say this all of the time- and I am going to say it again- and probably again-

Why the eff we don't see Mendy and Redman in the same backfield more often??

You can put Ben under center- motion Heath inside- go Power O..

Motion Mendy outside- Ben shifting to shot gun- Keeping Redman- and Heath in for protection- letting Heath release under/middle & redman release in the flat-

I'll continue to :HeadBanger

as to why we don't see this more.

Heck- Ben could go no huddle with this- it would be deadly-

particularly once Sanders/Brown are up fully up to speed. Wallace/Sanders/Heath-or Johnson

Mendy/Redman

Shift in and out of tendencies against whatever package the D has on the field- including the redzone.


Ditto..

JD

papillon
12-15-2010, 11:26 PM
Last week's play calling on the 25 first down plays was 13 passes and 12 runs, hardly RUTM every time.

Of the 24 2nd down plays in the game the Steelers ran the ball 9 times and passed 15 times.

I realize this doesn't take into account down, distance or field position, but simply showing that the offensive game plan isn't anything close to RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd and long. The Cincy game was called pretty good for the most part I thought, the players failed to execute more than the play call was bad, IMO.

First down was balanced and 2nd down was heavily tilted towards the pass.

Just sayin...

Pappy

Pappy, you may wanna go back and re-read the original post....

I specifically said that Arianus calls the RUTFM on FIRST, and SECOND down.

He calls it between the 20's and inside the RZ.

I stand corrected!!!

Arians actually calls it on THIRD AND FOURTH down also...

Let me spell this out for you and the rest of the individuals who just don't GET IT!!

ARIANUS HAS ONE-RUNNING PLAY IN THE "PLAYBOOK OF GREATNESS".....CAN YOU
GUESS WHAT THAT IS????????????????????

Let me spell it out...(R) run (U) up (T) the (F) friggin (M) middle!!!!!!!!

THAT'S IT!!!!!

The Defense's know what's coming and where!!!!

"A" GAP!!!!

WOW!!!! What a genius Arianus is!!! What a suprise play-call!!!! The defense
would be so confused!!! It's not like they haven't seen it on TAPE or anything!!!

My point is whether he calls a run play 68% of the time on 1st-down, and 32% of the time on 2nd down, is inconsequential...It's the fact that he NEVER changes the run
play itself, and create some better opportunites.

Pappy...I like your posts, but geez bro, you really whiffed on this one!!!

Try to do better next time, huh?

Just sayin...

JD

I missed a series (maybe 2) when I originally counted, there were 30 first down plays, 17 runs and 13 passes. The runs were as follows:

Middle: 3
RG: 3
LG: 3
RT: 4
LT: 2
RE:2

That looks like a balanced running attack to me. The only place they didn't try to run the ball on 1st down was left end. I didn't whiff anything, my point is that what you perceive and what is reality are two different things. The Steelers ran the ball in every gap along the line except left end on first down. I would rather see the pass plays be 17 and the runs be 13, because that puts the ball in the best players' hand more often. But, stating the only running play is a dive in the zero hole is wrong, clearly they attack the entire defensive line.

I'd rather run more to Flozell's side, he's the best run blocker the Steelers have, but they prefer to balance it out.

Pappy

JDSteeler
12-16-2010, 10:03 AM
Last week's play calling on the 25 first down plays was 13 passes and 12 runs, hardly RUTM every time.

Of the 24 2nd down plays in the game the Steelers ran the ball 9 times and passed 15 times.

I realize this doesn't take into account down, distance or field position, but simply showing that the offensive game plan isn't anything close to RUTM on 1st and 2nd down and pass on 3rd and long. The Cincy game was called pretty good for the most part I thought, the players failed to execute more than the play call was bad, IMO.

First down was balanced and 2nd down was heavily tilted towards the pass.

Just sayin...

Pappy

Pappy, you may wanna go back and re-read the original post....

I specifically said that Arianus calls the RUTFM on FIRST, and SECOND down.

He calls it between the 20's and inside the RZ.

I stand corrected!!!

Arians actually calls it on THIRD AND FOURTH down also...

Let me spell this out for you and the rest of the individuals who just don't GET IT!!

ARIANUS HAS ONE-RUNNING PLAY IN THE "PLAYBOOK OF GREATNESS".....CAN YOU
GUESS WHAT THAT IS????????????????????

Let me spell it out...(R) run (U) up (T) the (F) friggin (M) middle!!!!!!!!

THAT'S IT!!!!!

The Defense's know what's coming and where!!!!

"A" GAP!!!!

WOW!!!! What a genius Arianus is!!! What a suprise play-call!!!! The defense
would be so confused!!! It's not like they haven't seen it on TAPE or anything!!!

My point is whether he calls a run play 68% of the time on 1st-down, and 32% of the time on 2nd down, is inconsequential...It's the fact that he NEVER changes the run
play itself, and create some better opportunites.

Pappy...I like your posts, but geez bro, you really whiffed on this one!!!

Try to do better next time, huh?

Just sayin...

JD

I missed a series (maybe 2) when I originally counted, there were 30 first down plays, 17 runs and 13 passes. The runs were as follows:

Middle: 3
RG: 3
LG: 3
RT: 4
LT: 2
RE:2

That looks like a balanced running attack to me. The only place they didn't try to run the ball on 1st down was left end. I didn't whiff anything, my point is that what you perceive and what is reality are two different things. The Steelers ran the ball in every gap along the line except left end on first down. I would rather see the pass plays be 17 and the runs be 13, because that puts the ball in the best players' hand more often. But, stating the only running play is a dive in the zero hole is wrong, clearly they attack the entire defensive line.

I'd rather run more to Flozell's side, he's the best run blocker the Steelers have, but they prefer to balance it out.

Pappy

But every single run was a stinking "Hand-Off"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares what part of the line they attacked...they are running plays the
defense has already seen a thousand times before!!!

You don't get it!!!

I'm done!!

JD

feltdizz
12-16-2010, 10:11 AM
But every single run was a stinking "Hand-Off"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares what part of the line they attacked...they are running plays the
defense has already seen a thousand times before!!!

You don't get it!!!

I'm done!!

JD

You promise? :roll:

You must be pounding the !!!!! key with your skull.

You just complained about where they run on the line... now you don't care?

Now the complaint is every run is a hand off? What will you switch it up to next? Every run is on the ground?

Put the 4 loko's down.

JDSteeler
12-16-2010, 12:45 PM
But every single run was a stinking "Hand-Off"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who cares what part of the line they attacked...they are running plays the
defense has already seen a thousand times before!!!

You don't get it!!!

I'm done!!

JD

You promise? :roll:

You must be pounding the !!!!! key with your skull.

You just complained about where they run on the line... now you don't care?

Now the complaint is every run is a hand off? What will you switch it up to next? Every run is on the ground?

Put the 4 loko's down.

Yeh Dizz, I'm done, with any discussion about the Steelers with individuals who
absolutley have NO FRIGGIN CLUE!!!

No one can refute my arguments about our "Hand-Off Running Game".....

No one has yet to explain to me why Arianus continues to RUTFM.....

All anyone can say is...put the 4-Lokos down...that's great!!!

All I'm interested in is how the FRIG are the Steelers gonna put up points if
they continue with the stautus-quo??????

Come up with something HALF-WAY intelligent, and I'll CONSIDER responding!!

Late!

JD

birtikidis
12-16-2010, 01:28 PM
I think what he's trying to say is we don't pitch the ball outside very often. or run that stretch play (course, it'd be a loss every time if we did). I would like to see us run more plays that are designed to go outside rather then have mendy bounce it that way. it just seems that we don't do a good job of utilizing our strengths. we run a lot between the tackels and our back, who is pretty fast, has to bounce it outside. i'd like to see a little more... creativity i guess.

birtikidis
12-16-2010, 01:31 PM
JD i see where you're going.
our short yardage and redzone offense is putrid.
we don't kill teams we should.
we play tight against teams that we should be scoring against.
I understand trying to establish a ground game. it's sound. it makes sense. it's logical.
trying to do it with the same 5 plays every week is stupid though.

Leper Friend
12-16-2010, 01:56 PM
Come up with something HALF-WAY intelligent, and I'll CONSIDER responding!!


JD
Anyone see the irony in this ?

BURGH86STEEL
12-16-2010, 02:00 PM
I think what he's trying to say is we don't pitch the ball outside very often. or run that stretch play (course, it'd be a loss every time if we did). I would like to see us run more plays that are designed to go outside rather then have mendy bounce it that way. it just seems that we don't do a good job of utilizing our strengths. we run a lot between the tackels and our back, who is pretty fast, has to bounce it outside. i'd like to see a little more... creativity i guess.

They don't have the offensive lineman playing right now to execute rush plays to the outside. Their most athletic offensive lineman plays at center. Some will suggest that they are better off attempting to run in between the tackles having Mendenhall bounce it when there is an opportunity.

What is the strength of this Steelers Oline?

IMO, they have guys playing on the Oline that struggle to do anything well.

birtikidis
12-16-2010, 02:05 PM
I think what he's trying to say is we don't pitch the ball outside very often. or run that stretch play (course, it'd be a loss every time if we did). I would like to see us run more plays that are designed to go outside rather then have mendy bounce it that way. it just seems that we don't do a good job of utilizing our strengths. we run a lot between the tackels and our back, who is pretty fast, has to bounce it outside. i'd like to see a little more... creativity i guess.

They don't have the offensive lineman playing right now to execute rush plays to the outside. Their most athletic offensive lineman plays at center. Some will suggest that they are better off attempting to run in between the tackles having Mendenhall bounce it when there is an opportunity.

What is the strength of this Steelers Oline?

IMO, they have guys playing on the Oline that struggle to do anything well.
i disagree. i would run it off tackle to the right a ton. right off flozells big a$$

BURGH86STEEL
12-16-2010, 02:10 PM
I think what he's trying to say is we don't pitch the ball outside very often. or run that stretch play (course, it'd be a loss every time if we did). I would like to see us run more plays that are designed to go outside rather then have mendy bounce it that way. it just seems that we don't do a good job of utilizing our strengths. we run a lot between the tackels and our back, who is pretty fast, has to bounce it outside. i'd like to see a little more... creativity i guess.

They don't have the offensive lineman playing right now to execute rush plays to the outside. Their most athletic offensive lineman plays at center. Some will suggest that they are better off attempting to run in between the tackles having Mendenhall bounce it when there is an opportunity.

What is the strength of this Steelers Oline?

IMO, they have guys playing on the Oline that struggle to do anything well.
i disagree. i would run it off tackle to the right a ton. right off flozells big a$$

They run off tackle to that side of the field. Sometimes, Kemo pulls on those plays. They can only do it so often.

Based on your extensive analysis, what is the strength of this Steelers Oline?

birtikidis
12-16-2010, 09:28 PM
I think what he's trying to say is we don't pitch the ball outside very often. or run that stretch play (course, it'd be a loss every time if we did). I would like to see us run more plays that are designed to go outside rather then have mendy bounce it that way. it just seems that we don't do a good job of utilizing our strengths. we run a lot between the tackels and our back, who is pretty fast, has to bounce it outside. i'd like to see a little more... creativity i guess.

They don't have the offensive lineman playing right now to execute rush plays to the outside. Their most athletic offensive lineman plays at center. Some will suggest that they are better off attempting to run in between the tackles having Mendenhall bounce it when there is an opportunity.

What is the strength of this Steelers Oline?

IMO, they have guys playing on the Oline that struggle to do anything well.
i disagree. i would run it off tackle to the right a ton. right off flozells big a$$

They run off tackle to that side of the field. Sometimes, Kemo pulls on those plays. They can only do it so often.

Based on your extensive analysis, what is the strength of this Steelers Oline?
when kemo pulls, it is rarely as a sweep or even off tackle. Most of those runs are to the inside of the tackle, not the outside. the only time Mendy goes outside is when he bounces that way.
and since you want to be a jackass, I'll be one back. I don't think we have any strengths. that's why I want to draft a guard. since we only have one on the team, it'd be ncie to get another.
our OC is a moron, kinda like you, who refuses to adjust to his weaknesses. Run anywhere between the tackles without a true FB? moronic.
Rarely run a sweep.. dumb.